My favourite change: They simplified armor plates to Basic / Enhanced / Complex. Makes it much easier now.

PG mods are there, look beneath scanning mods on the list, also i spent some time this evening using the released numbers to throw together a couple of myron fits, i see two main areas of concern where the fitting system is, the number of modules available and their resource costs, and the resource cost of turrets. at a minimum small turrets are taking up around 250PG with maxed fitting skills, now given that dropships such as the myron only have 725PG it absolutely murders the tanking ability of the vehicle, i'd estimate that the EHP loss between a fit with no turrets and one with turrets could go up to 1000EHP easily, we essentially see a situation where you can prioritize tank over offensive capability and passenger capacity, since seats are tied to turret. i have to say that i think a reduction to the pg/cpu costs of turrets should be reduced.

the other issue i see is the lack of low cost modules, from my fitting attempts i kept running into the same situation, i would end up with not enough CPU/PG to fit modules and empty slots, sometimes 2 lows, sometimes 1 low, 1 high, right now we have things like energized plating and shield amps to fill the useful low cost niche, the removal of them will be felt, we need something to fill that niche before long otherwise slots are going to waste.

PG mods = powergrid upgrades

they're in the scanner section for some reason, go take another look, the complex provides a 1.2 bonus which im assuming means a 20% PG bonus, would be nice if a dev could confirm that though.

also am i the only one who noticed one of the most intriguing and possibly most important sentences in the entire thread?

Lets get some horrid math shall we for proto because thats what id be using

539.5 damage now im using a 10% damage booster becuase i can so about 593.45 damage
a ROF of 1 shot per .15 of a second but i have 5% reduction in that so .1475

Thats 4 shots a second ( i think or its 6) so about 2414 DPS


Impressive. for some reason my internet spaceship can only do ~700
CCP can i fit a gunlogi on my raven instead of torp launchers

OK so a basic small blaster does 357 damage at 14 shots per second. so to take out a Saga basic hull would take

1200/(357*1.1) = Roughly 3 Seconds
900/(357*0.9) = 2.8 Seconds let's just say 3

It would take 6 seconds of sustained small blaster fire to remove an untanked Saga, within 65 meters (optimal range) so at 14 shots per second with a clip size of 120, you only used 84 bullets. That's pretty quick.

But that's statistical which never applies in perfection to practice. We all know it's going to take longer than 6 seconds and probably over 1 clip. But hey, I haven't seen any heat sinks or heat stats, so I don't think vehicle turrets will have heat anymore.

You sir are an Narcissistic nooblet, i always fly first person and hate third person, but i would never say well hey get rid of this because i don't like it. SMH dude this is an FPS there should be no third person, but i will allow it : ) get over it and practice more. I always fly Assault dropships just ask my; CEO i get an allowance of 15 mill a month : ) i don't die often.

Couple of things to keep in mind guys:

AV weapons should also be getting work done to them to bring them in line with the new numbers. Those will be posted at a later date. For now, try to focus on vehicle vs vehicle interactions.

Small arms shouldn't be able to disrupt shield recharging. I don't have the exact number for the threshold off the top of my head, but it should be enough to prevent someone from pinging you with an assault rifle to stop the recharge.

On another note, CCP Wolfman is out of his cave for a short time, so it might be a little while before he pops his head back into the thread. Keep the feedback rolling in though to make sure he's got a nice list of things to talk about when he gets back (and don't worry, there will be enough time for talking when he gets back)

How could they just be on the table? You're adding in a ton of skills. I understand you don't want respecs for the flavor of the month issue, because we all know when those things get nerfed, everybody that uses it is on the forums crying about it. But as I've said many times before, this is a full and complete change to how vehicles work. Some might want to not tank anymore. Some of us probably will need a couple extra million skill points that we threw into various infantry roles back, so we can fill out our tank skills.

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>Small Railguns: SRg's combine a missile's alpha damage with a moderately fast firerate. If efficiency ratings remain good, this will be an effective AV weapon for smaller vehicles.
>Large Railguns: LRg's have very high alpha damage, but reload slowly. Use it like you would any true "tank gun"

>Small Missiles: as SMs don't overheat, they can put good mid-range DPS on targets. They mostly rely on splash for infantry and direct damage for vehicles, so don't worry too much about near-misses.
>Large missiles: The king of burst DPS. There is very little that can withstand the punishment that 12 direct hits dish out. Know, however, that a Large Missile HAV will be extremely vulnerable waiting for the 10-second reload.

Stopped reading at page 20 so apologies for missing anything that already got addressed.

- I want a helicopter

- after you give me my helicopter, I want a chinook that can carry tanks

My bad. So what I meant was, I want a variation on dropships that involves rotary blades and the change in flight dynamics that comes with that, and I want to be able to pilot bolas.

Anyways, these were just little "I wants" as a helicopter enthusiast and not serious ideas ;-)