why does the Assault Dropship even have a gun on the front, it's not useful

Just make a dropship with 4 small turret slots and call it the assault dropship....

i had lost all hopes for this game, but after seeing what they are doing, hell
i will give them another chance

PS: if you see a derpship killing you on 1.6, it might be me

Which is why I might suggest not to belay deployment of this vehicle patch on account of balance concerns.
That'll hammer itself out quicker on the live server than in a year of internal play-testing.


Although I think waiting for all STD-racial variants may also be as prudent, Definitely would not bother doing internal testing past the point where it functionally Could go live.

Most of us were probably waiting for an actual confirmation.

If they don't nerf the crap out of FG's than these tanks won't last long at all.

7000 hp with no resists is going to be a quick funeral.

As long as proto AV is out there, these tanks, from the stats will be even bigger coffins than the current batch.

Full Complete 100% Refund of all SP and Full 100% Refund of all BPC items. This should be what is talked about and the complete revamp of AV to run parallel to the upcoming vehicle changings. For once lets see you guys "CCP" put out a product that is worth logging on and enjoying. There is more to add like the outcome of this change and what it will effect for vehicles. I request also that a second respect be afforded once you hammer out all of the issues with this rollout as well. Putting points into something to only have it nerfed to oblivion isn't cool and you will find more that would rather make it rain in GTA V vise on these forums with QQ from all the no lube friction they receive from faults made by CCP.

How about this instead of a classic respect how about CCP Give the player x amount SP to be used by the player as they see fit, No more respecs but 1 to 2 million add on SP.

How about this instead of a classic respect how about CCP Give the player x amount SP to be used by the player as they see fit, No more respecs but 1 to 2 million add on SP.

Damage mods need to be VH
Ammo cache needs to be VL

Because masrugars have blasters and only get 600 rounds they fire at over 700RPM
Gunlogis have missiles and rails which need super high damage to be able to break through madrugar armor at range, while also having their own jardeners. I'm gonna go make some spreadsheeets tonight and see which has a better DPS/EHP/RESISTANCE ratio.

They are VH and VL according to the pic

The Logistics and Assault Dropships are going to be taken out temporarily, but they should be returning in the future. As was said in the first post, we want to go back to basics and get the core interactions working first. Then we can look at branching back out once we have a solid foundation.

****.

Jack!

Jack!

Are there no armour resistance plates? My dropship survives off them!

Wut

loool. just read that post. >.>

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Spreadsheets!

I'll add new posts if I have comments on the other spreadsheets, but for now i'll focus on the weapons.

In general
>Blasters: All about RoF! Small blasters will behave like miniguns with very small clips, while Large Blasters act like small-caliber repeater cannons. Very high DPS potential, especially if you invest SP into reducing heat buildup.
>Railguns: with lower heat costs and respectable mag sizes, railguns appear to be designed for longer bursts of fire on heavily-defended targets.
>Launchers: Basically, both sizes of launcher spit out the same direct damage per missile. The Large Launchers spit them out at a much faster rate, but with less splash damage and radius per missile.
NOTE: Large Missile Turrets aren't listed as "burst fire" on this spreadsheet, so I assume that the entire magazine can be fired off at once in this post

Time per magazine (heat isn't accounted here), and the damage that would cause
>Small Blasters: All 120 rounds would fire in exactly 8.4 seconds, and you would do 3,000 potential damage in that time.
>Large Blasters: 205 rounds in 28.7 seconds, doing 21,525 potential damage

Railgun calculations account for the charge time only for the first shot, in-line with current mechanics
>Small Railguns: 24 rounds in 10.25 seconds, doing between 5,640 and 7,332 potential damage
>Large Railguns: 9 rounds in 18.35 seconds, doing between 13,050 and 16,965 potential damage

missile calculations assume all direct hits, splash isn't accounted
>Small Missiles: 8 rounds in 9.6 seconds, doing between 3,200 and 4,160 potential damage
>Large Missiles: 12 missiles in 1.8 seconds, doing between 4,980 and 6,474 potential damage


burst DPS based on above data - does not account for reloads
>SB: 357.14
>LB: 750

>SRg: 550.24 to 715.32
>LRg: 711.17 to 924.52

>SM: 333.33 to 433.33
>LM: 2766.67 to 3596.67


Now we add a reload and second magazine to try to calculate true DPS. reloads based on unskilled user

>SB: 4s reload. 6,000 damage for two magazines. 8.4+4+8.4 = 20.8 total seconds(Ts). 6,000/20.8 = 288.46 true
>LB: 8s reload. 658.26 true

>SRg: 4s reload. 460.41 to 598.53 true
>LRg: 8s reload. 583.89 to 759.06 true

>SM: 4s reload. 275.86 to 358.62 true
>LM: 10s reload. 732.35 to 952.06 true



End result:

>Blasters: both turrets have lower DPS numbers, but they can sustain it more easily than the other weapon types. This is because it has relatively fast reloads and rapid cooling. Small is good against infantry, while the Large Blaster is useful to keep the pressure on an enemy vehicle.

>Small Railguns: SRg's combine a missile's alpha damage with a moderately fast firerate. If efficiency ratings remain good, this will be an effective AV weapon for smaller vehicles.
>Large Railguns: LRg's have very high alpha damage, but reload slowly. Use it like you would any true "tank gun"

>Small Missiles: as SMs don't overheat, they can put good mid-range DPS on targets. They mostly rely on splash for infantry and direct damage for vehicles, so don't worry too much about near-misses.
>Large missiles: The king of burst DPS. There is very little that can withstand the punishment that 12 direct hits dish out. Know, however, that a Large Missile HAV will be extremely vulnerable waiting for the 10-second reload.


effects on HAV strategy (based on turret type)

Large Blaster: a strong platform for mowing down infantry and nearby vehicles, but loses effectiveness at range. Keep this HAV away from open spaces, and you'll do very well.
An Ammo Expansion Unit is a useful module, as you will eat up ammunition very quickly.

Large Railgun: Best at long ranges, as closer ranges leave you vulnerable to a Blaster HAV.
Damage modifiers will increase your Alpha damage, which is a very good thing to have on this.

Large Missile: Be keenly aware of any cover you can use for shoot-and-scoot combat, as you will need to be in cover while you reload your next 12-shot volley. Devastating at mid-range, which is close enough for most of the missiles to hit while the Blaster HAV won't have maximum DPS output.
As you want to be in cover, try to fit a Fuel Injector to scoot back behind a building or rock when you've fired your magazine. This will reduce the amount of time you are exposed to the enemy.

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>Small Railguns: SRg's combine a missile's alpha damage with a moderately fast firerate. If efficiency ratings remain good, this will be an effective AV weapon for smaller vehicles.
>Large Railguns: LRg's have very high alpha damage, but reload slowly. Use it like you would any true "tank gun"

>Small Missiles: as SMs don't overheat, they can put good mid-range DPS on targets. They mostly rely on splash for infantry and direct damage for vehicles, so don't worry too much about near-misses.
>Large missiles: The king of burst DPS. There is very little that can withstand the punishment that 12 direct hits dish out. Know, however, that a Large Missile HAV will be extremely vulnerable waiting for the 10-second reload.

Which level of gun did you derive this information from? Basic, enhanced, complex? Also, at the moment, the OP states there is a typo in the blaster damage section. Not hard to figure that out, I suppose, when every blaster has the same stats. Were corrected ones posted anywhere? ._.

Large missiles vs tank w/ hardeners are on will take 2+clips, not missiles so that is 24+missiles, even at the proto lvl.

Large missiles vs tank w/ hardeners are on will take 2+clips, not missiles so that is 24+missiles, even at the proto lvl.