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The Robot Devil
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Posted - 2013.07.28 11:10:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game. You spawn in your proto suit or your vehical and you are killed over and over, loosing all your ISK. You are told you can not play PC because the one class you are good at, sucks. Nobody wants you in any serious endeavor in dust because your class is nerfed to the point of uselessness. Like current shield tanks, dropships, lazers, plasma cannons and soon to be armor tanks when they fix the bug that is causing them to be balanced. You no longer want to play dust, as the class you played is ruined and so is your ability to enjoy playing dust, because the developers ruined the class you speced into. CCP later anounes that they will not be fixing your class for many months and they ask you to accept their most sincere apologies, despite changing the class that you speced into many months beforehand. Should you get a respec? This happened to the classes mentioned previously and will happen again when the fix the armor tanks
They gave us all of our points back and some people dumped all their points into an untested class. No one was forced to place points anywhere and no one was forced to level 5 skills. If people would have taken their time and slowly skilled into proto gear then they would have know the problems before they were at level 5.
Things were changed with Uprising and we should have tested the waters more before we spent out points in a build that seems useless. It was a nice little trap. I keep telling you people that CCP is the ultimate troll. |
The Robot Devil
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Posted - 2013.07.30 02:41:00 -
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Grief PK wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:"There will always be FOTM chasers" They're called about 90% of the population of any given FPS, probably more in dust with the EVE "any advantage I can take" mentality.
That is what will destroy the game, you'll go from a myriad selection of suits, guns, and vehicles to one of each, kitted out exactly the same. Unless you want to outright lose every fight you're in since every time the balance changes, the majority of the game switches to whatever's OP. You can only dodge so many flaylock shots. I disagree, whole heartedly. I believe CCP should take a chance, if you are correct they will know within a month and change it back no harm done. If you are incorrect we could have a phenomenal new game on our hands.
That's what we need. CCP to remake the game again, try to rebalance again, read every respec and QQ balance thread again and be mocked by some armchair game developer again. We need a new game like we need a bigger blast radius on a flaylock.
Allowing respecs is not going to do anything for the game except cause more problems because the data from the previous day will change because I like a shotgun more today than yesterday. I still haven't heard one good reason - barring missing suits and vehicles - that warrants respecs. The reasons I see are usually short sighted and do not address the problems the game actually has.
Player retention is bad because this is not a game you can be l33t at in a day. The learning curve is steep and choices do effect how you play. Gamers are not used to the idea of persistence and it flies in the face of every other game fps players play. The grind mentality hurts the player base and causes burn out very quickly. Stagnation due to lack of content and low numbers. CCP does things differently when compared to the other game developers and it comes off as them ignoring us, not listening or general ineptness. Not one of these problems will be solved by giving back SP, we will be in the same spot in one month or less and I will have to thumb out this diatribe almost verbatim.
Play the game for fun and not for SP. Play the game you want to play and not for what is best. Don't grind. I know this sounds stupid but RP some because it does add to the experience. Come to the forums to provide feedback but don't let them pull you down under the bridge. PLAY OTHER GAMES because games are supposed to be fun not a source of stress.
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The Robot Devil
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Posted - 2013.07.30 08:16:00 -
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Stands Alone wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Grief PK wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:"There will always be FOTM chasers" They're called about 90% of the population of any given FPS, probably more in dust with the EVE "any advantage I can take" mentality.
That is what will destroy the game, you'll go from a myriad selection of suits, guns, and vehicles to one of each, kitted out exactly the same. Unless you want to outright lose every fight you're in since every time the balance changes, the majority of the game switches to whatever's OP. You can only dodge so many flaylock shots. I disagree, whole heartedly. I believe CCP should take a chance, if you are correct they will know within a month and change it back no harm done. If you are incorrect we could have a phenomenal new game on our hands. That's what we need. CCP to remake the game again, try to rebalance again, read every respec and QQ balance thread again and be mocked by some armchair game developer again. We need a new game like we need a bigger blast radius on a flaylock. Allowing respecs is not going to do anything for the game except cause more problems because the data from the previous day will change because I like a shotgun more today than yesterday. I still haven't heard one good reason - barring missing suits and vehicles - that warrants respecs. The reasons I see are usually short sighted and do not address the problems the game actually has. Player retention is bad because this is not a game you can be l33t at in a day. The learning curve is steep and choices do effect how you play. Gamers are not used to the idea of persistence and it flies in the face of every other game fps players play. The grind mentality hurts the player base and causes burn out very quickly. Stagnation due to lack of content and low numbers. CCP does things differently when compared to the other game developers and it comes off as them ignoring us, not listening or general ineptness. Not one of these problems will be solved by giving back SP, we will be in the same spot in one month or less and I will have to thumb out this diatribe almost verbatim. Play the game for fun and not for SP. Play the game you want to play and not for what is best. Don't grind. I know this sounds stupid but RP some because it does add to the experience. Come to the forums to provide feedback but don't let them pull you down under the bridge. PLAY OTHER GAMES because games are supposed to be fun not a source of stress. the game is never finished, therefore they can not remake it... since it is always being made... players either stick it out and adapt or they leave... i think CCP is giving its player base a crash course on the way new eden works on purpose. the ones that arent familiar with it have to learn sooner or later
Yes and vets who thought they knew what they were doing got taken to the bank because the didn't think or test the new build. It was reckless and kind of cocky to assume that things wouldn't or shouldn't change. Especially when it was called a NEW build and not an update or expansion. You know what the say about assumptions, they will make and ass out of u and me. |
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