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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:30:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: I want more kick and less charge time, is that a bad thing? To want a balanced weapon? Where it has both some CQC capabilities (about like the AR's long range capabilities) and long range capabilities (Like the AR's CQC)
What percentage of those kills were from the hip? Balanced weapons are good. Long-range weapon hipfire dominating CQC is bad. A good bit, that was the five minutes of hipfire kills out of a 20 minute video Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground.
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
514
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:33:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote: Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground.
I agree. Perhaps revert to the prior nerf, but make the kick a little less crazy. |
First Prophet
Nos Nothi
1953
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:42:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote: is that a bad thing? To want a balanced weapon? Where it has both some CQC capabilities (about like the AR's long range capabilities) and long range capabilities (Like the AR's CQC) So you want the combat rifle?
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
347
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:43:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Bright Steel wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:voidfaction wrote:If shield generators have weight then why don't everything have weight? HMG vs NK's have no effect on speed/strafe/backpedal.
That'd be cool! The lighter the equipped weapon, the faster one's base movement speed. Heavy Weapon > Light Weapon > Sidearm > Knives So if my minja went commando with nothing but knives and three red bottles.... "What was that?" "John, you there?" -turns to see john lying on the ground- Unless Minmandos gain 2 extra Low Slots at Proto that isn't possible. I have a complex KinCat on my Adv Melee Minmando, and he only has 1 Low Slot. Meant commando figuratively as in not wearing anything else, or no other modules, grenade, or equipment, just my proto minmatar scout, KN and three kincats
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
377
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:52:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground.
I agree. Perhaps revert to the prior nerf, but make the kick a little less crazy. Kick wasn't that bad, then again I have fully maxed RR skills I have a petition to get the RR back to the prior nerf, maybe you could sign? Click here for the thread
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:21:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground.
I agree. Perhaps revert to the prior nerf, but make the kick a little less crazy. Kick wasn't that bad, then again I have fully maxed RR skills I have a petition to get the RR back to the prior nerf, maybe you could sign? Click here for the thread I early use the RR, just not my style. I don't know how much the kick is now. I was under the impression that they could adjust kick in HF or ADS separately, would it make sense to seriously reduce the kick when Aiming Down Sights?
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
380
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:28:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground.
I agree. Perhaps revert to the prior nerf, but make the kick a little less crazy. Kick wasn't that bad, then again I have fully maxed RR skills I have a petition to get the RR back to the prior nerf, maybe you could sign? Click here for the thread I early use the RR, just not my style. I don't know how much the kick is now. I was under the impression that they could adjust kick in HF or ADS separately, would it make sense to seriously reduce the kick when Aiming Down Sights? They had it to where ADS would reduce kick, but hipfire would make it fly around... people QQ about it being terrible in CQC (It's a damn long range rifle!) and they nerfed kick and added charge time.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6052
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:58:00 -
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With regards to the current RR, all I know is that Fox got mad, and I can't remember ever seeing him mad like that.
It is understandable, it was never meant to be a CQC weapon, and people were abusing the mechanics. Now they have nerfed its actual role, while only reinforcing the abused mechanics. This has been happening way too much lately in general.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
380
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:06:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:With regards to the current RR, all I know is that Fox got mad, and I can't remember ever seeing him mad like that.
It is understandable, it was never meant to be a CQC weapon, and people were abusing the mechanics. Now they have nerfed its actual role, while only reinforcing the abused mechanics. This has been happening way too much lately in general. Sign the petition?
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6052
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:07:00 -
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Quite possibly the dumbest post on the forums.
Don't get me wrong, it has a lot of competition, but just Wow.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
380
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:13:00 -
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Added name to the list. Waiting for the Dev tag(I'm guessing the 100th person to sign will get someone to speak...)
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:19:00 -
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It only wins because the Devs/GMs delete the best posts of the forums. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:22:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:It only wins because the Devs/GMs delete the best posts of the forums. I can't help but think he wants banned.
But perhaps that is just the vestiges of my hope for humanity that prevent me from thinking someone could be so foolish.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
382
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Posted - 2014.11.21 20:24:00 -
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I'm running around looking for threads that want the RR spool time lowered, giving them links and hoping there will be more people to sign on the dotted line. I already know BPM and Zindorak are against it.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4570
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Posted - 2014.11.21 21:55:00 -
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I did the best thing today on BF4. I got a shotgun, put a duckbill and canted ironsights onto it and rekt 'em. For those that don't know, duckbills flatten the spread, (less up-down, more left-right) canted ironsights slap an ironsights on the side of the gun, tilting it when you use. So how is this good? Well the gun is tilted enough so that the pellets go diagonally. Couple that with leaning left and you've got it completely vertical.
Headshots all day
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
523
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:12:00 -
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Seeing some of this for the first time:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2473560#post2473560
Neat looking stuff :-) |
First Prophet
Nos Nothi
1957
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:19:00 -
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Stuff's old. Brings me back to the old days when we all thought dust had potential, and patches brought the prospect of new content. We were all so young and foolish. We gave all ourselves to CCP because we believed their sweet nothings of 10 year plans laser focus.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
382
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:20:00 -
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We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow.
"I shall fight for my people until I can't come back."
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:22:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow. My guess is that if Legion does not get the Green Light, Dust will die a very slow death.
I don't see them ever re investing any more than they are at the moment in this game.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
382
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:26:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow. My guess is that if Legion does not get the Green Light, Dust will die a very slow death. I don't see them ever re investing any more than they are at the moment in this game. Dust may get a PC/PS4 port if they cancel legion, that's going to make it grow... the problem? The would be Legion, if cancel all the investment would be useless.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:32:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow. My guess is that if Legion does not get the Green Light, Dust will die a very slow death. I don't see them ever re investing any more than they are at the moment in this game. Dust may get a PC/PS4 port if they cancel legion, that's going to make it grow... the problem? The would be Legion, if cancel all the investment would be useless. I pose this to you: If the new, shiny improved version of a product gets shot down before it goes to market, why would a business continue work on its predecessor? It makes more sense to work on Dust if Legion gets the go ahead, because then you can build up excitement. "Hey guys, play this game. We're making a shinier version of it, it's not quite ready yet so have this, we'll add some stuff to it and when the time is right we can make the transition to the one with a new engine."
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
382
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:34:00 -
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Spademan wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow. My guess is that if Legion does not get the Green Light, Dust will die a very slow death. I don't see them ever re investing any more than they are at the moment in this game. Dust may get a PC/PS4 port if they cancel legion, that's going to make it grow... the problem? The would be Legion, if cancel all the investment would be useless. I pose this to you: If the new, shiny improved version of a product gets shot down before it goes to market, why would a business continue work on its predecessor? I... have no idea. Then again we are talking about CCP here...
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:36:00 -
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Spademan wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow. My guess is that if Legion does not get the Green Light, Dust will die a very slow death. I don't see them ever re investing any more than they are at the moment in this game. Dust may get a PC/PS4 port if they cancel legion, that's going to make it grow... the problem? The would be Legion, if cancel all the investment would be useless. I pose this to you: If the new, shiny improved version of a product gets shot down before it goes to market, why would a business continue work on its predecessor?
Updating and maintaining a product that is bringing in revenue isn't really the same as devoting an entire development team to it.
On the other hand, greenlit of not Legion will fail if they don't learn their ******* lesson and actually advertise the existance of the game OUTSIDE the EVE player-base.
Still surprised how so many people even found out about DUST that aren't/weren't EVE newsletter subscribers |
Cass Caul
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:37:00 -
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So, has anyone posted in the EQ Profile thread?
I wrote:Let's start with what I desire.
Drop Uplinks: 60/50/40 Yeah, that's steep, but I'm thinking that everyone should see STD uplinks. All Med Frames should see ADV. All Scouts should see Uplinks natively. Max skill, 1 precision enhancer on a med frame will see those PRO uplinks
Nanohives: 55/45/35. identifiable but takes modules to do it.
Remotes: 39/28/17.stealthier than a min-scout
Proximity: 50/40/30, avoids vehicle scans
What I think is reasonable:
everything at 52/35/28 |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
384
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:44:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Spademan wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:One Eyed King wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:We were fools then, if Legion is ever cancelled then and only then may Dust grow. My guess is that if Legion does not get the Green Light, Dust will die a very slow death. I don't see them ever re investing any more than they are at the moment in this game. Dust may get a PC/PS4 port if they cancel legion, that's going to make it grow... the problem? The would be Legion, if cancel all the investment would be useless. I pose this to you: If the new, shiny improved version of a product gets shot down before it goes to market, why would a business continue work on its predecessor? Updating and maintaining a product that is bringing in revenue isn't really the same as devoting an entire development team to it. On the other hand, greenlit of not Legion will fail if they don't learn their ******* lesson and actually advertise the existance of the game OUTSIDE the EVE player-base. Still surprised how so many people even found out about DUST that aren't/weren't EVE newsletter subscribers I wasn't one of those. More so PSH I think. Can't remember, all I remember is I downloaded 'Mordu's Private Trials' AR sight, Old maps (One I still call Laz0rland because that map was my first time using a Laz0r ) I agree with the Legion will fail part... if they keep advertising to EVE only. Also I would like to say that most people found it on Playstation Store
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
524
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:55:00 -
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I'm with Spade. Legion or no Legion, if Rattati & Team demonstrate that this Dust can turn a profit, why would Rouge walk out on us? Profitability, FTW.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4573
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:55:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Then again we are talking about CCP here... Good point, I hadn't accounted for the CCP Coefficient.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8148
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Posted - 2014.11.21 22:57:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: I want more kick and less charge time, is that a bad thing? To want a balanced weapon? Where it has both some CQC capabilities (about like the AR's long range capabilities) and long range capabilities (Like the AR's CQC)
What percentage of those kills were from the hip? Balanced weapons are good. Long-range weapon hipfire dominating CQC is bad. A good bit, that was the five minutes of hipfire kills out of a 20 minute video Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground.
What I consider crazy in that video:
He had a dude right in front of him. He had to reload his RR, and had an SMG with a full clip as backup.
He still chose to reload the RR rather than pull out his SMG.
That's the real problem. It's so viable in CQC, that he would rather RELOAD than switch to his CQC bullet-hose sidearm.
They really need to learn how to balance mid-long range weapons.
ScR is still too viable in CQC. I've talked to a lot of friends who use this gun, the best way to fire is NOT to carefully control your shots and engage at range.
The best way to use it is to spam the living hell out of it. In CQC? SPAM SPAM SPAM. At range? SPAM. Seriously CCP, just give it the same treatment as the LR, nerf its CQC damage. Or at least give it more hipfire, I've used it and it still is too accurate from the hip, given it's 96m effective range.
In this same vein, the Combat rifle needs a tweak as well. CR has hipfire accuracy, but that's the result of it's bullpup configuration. To compensate, it NEEDS a ROF adjustment. Adjust Burst ROF to something more manageable (I liken it to the Battle Rifle from Halo) and increase the damage to compensate.
RR is the first to get this treatment. It got a LARGE hipfire penalty, which made sense given its 100m effective range. Literally, there was no difference in the kick when ADS, you just couldn't use the thing like a breach SMG on a dime. Sidearms were required, and as they SHOULD be for all Light Weapons.
Sidearms are much deadlier now, and they exist to COMPLIMENT your Light Weapon of choice, by covering up it's weaknesses or expanding on its strengths.
For example: The SMG/Flaylock and Combat rifle. CR should be effective at around 30-60m with SMG's being able to handle everything from 0-20m. That 10m deadzone is where an AR user can take advantage of you (or a Magsec).
Scrambler and ScR. ScR is made for the 40-70m range, with the ScR able to be effectively used in ~5-30m ranges (possibly farther or closer depending on skill). CR's can take advantage of that range, as well as a good AR.
See how they compliment and overlap? THIS is how it should be. Light Weapons are not weapons that should be viable at all ranges under its effective range. Sidearms are there to take care of those ranges where you weapon simply isn't effective. They trade versatility for firepower.
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
386
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:25:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote: I want more kick and less charge time, is that a bad thing? To want a balanced weapon? Where it has both some CQC capabilities (about like the AR's long range capabilities) and long range capabilities (Like the AR's CQC)
What percentage of those kills were from the hip? Balanced weapons are good. Long-range weapon hipfire dominating CQC is bad. A good bit, that was the five minutes of hipfire kills out of a 20 minute video Anyway, that isn't exactly what I want it to be. I want less charge time so it can hit someone before you drop dead on the ground. What I consider crazy in that video: He had a dude right in front of him. He had to reload his RR, and had an SMG with a full clip as backup. He still chose to reload the RR rather than pull out his SMG. That's the real problem. It's so viable in CQC, that he would rather RELOAD than switch to his CQC bullet-hose. Uh maybe he just forgot? Look that video isn't the current state. It was in the OP state. The update screwed with the hotfix remember? EIther that or I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway I want more kick, less charge on the RR, you?
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4577
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Posted - 2014.11.21 23:27:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote: Uh maybe he just forgot? Look that video isn't the current state. It was in the OP state. The update screwed with the hotfix remember? EIther that or I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway I want more kick, less charge on the RR, you?
It's a comment on how ridiculous the gun used to be.
Anyway, I used the Rail Rifle all day today and it didn't seem too bad to me. I think it just needs more staying power, drop the ADS kick a tad perhaps?
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