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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 16:50:00 -
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Spitballing ...
* Defenders no show; Raiders assume ownership of District * Raiders do not want the District and are motivated to quickly sell * Raiders post a WTS in a player-driven, district-oriented black market * Landowners looking to pickup districts at discount frequent these markets * District is sold for ISK (or DK); proceeds are split among the Raid Team
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.05.25 17:30:00 -
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I like the changes. My main issue is with raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid.
Overlord of Broman
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 17:47:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.05.25 17:53:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/
I know :(
Overlord of Broman
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.05.25 20:25:00 -
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Ive forgotten how to play ive forgotten how to ******* play! I hate this! I cant learn how to ******* play they keep changing ****! I cant do this i cant ******* do this i cant!
Minmatar-Daredevil, blind, smart, resourceful, breaks faces
GET UP
Back to where it began
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.05.25 20:52:00 -
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Better now. The rage is strong. Gave myself a headache, X(
Minmatar-Daredevil, blind, smart, resourceful, breaks faces
GET UP
Back to where it began
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.05.25 21:56:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:I like the changes. My main issue is with raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. I think there should be at least SOME warning.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:04:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ares 514 wrote:I like the changes. My main issue is with raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. I think there should be at least SOME warning. How about an hour warning?
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:09:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ares 514 wrote:I like the changes. My main issue is with raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. I think there should be at least SOME warning. How about an hour warning? Provided that raids can only happen during the reinforcement timer, an hour seems fine to me.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:13:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ares 514 wrote:I like the changes. My main issue is with raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. I think there should be at least SOME warning. How about an hour warning? You mean like how the old school pirates used to do it?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:13:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Ive forgotten how to play ive forgotten how to ******* play! I hate this! I cant learn how to ******* play they keep changing ****! I cant do this i cant ******* do this i cant! I often have adjustment issues if I have not played in awhile, or there is are significant changes.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:14:00 -
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For the TPLAK, is there somewhere that says when PC 2.0 is going to be released, or was Rat's post just an update for information purposes?
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:18:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Ares 514 wrote:I like the changes. My main issue is with raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. I think there should be at least SOME warning. How about an hour warning? Provided that raids can only happen during the reinforcement timer, an hour seems fine to me. Meh, sound enough I suppose. But I had the idea of coordinating raids with when other corps are attacking the raid target. Being opportunistic and all that. Being restricted to timers would diminish that a bit.
Oh well. If they ever introduce null-sec then everything to do with timers and the like should (in my opinion) be thrown out the window for those areas.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 22:59:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/ Eh, imagine if you could queue into a raid like a regular match. District holders would be getting raided 24/7. It'd be a nightmare and nobody would ever want to hold a district.
I'm not a huge fan of having to operate under the silly timers, but it beats pretty much anything else.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:47:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/ Eh, imagine if you could queue into a raid like a regular match. District holders would be getting raided 24/7. It'd be a nightmare and nobody would ever want to hold a district. I'm not a huge fan of having to operate under the silly timers, but it beats pretty much anything else. Never had that in mind. I'm thinking a daily, 1-2 hour "Raid Window" for every District. If you find yourself with a bunch of corpmates online, round them up into squads, pick an FC, open the starmap and choose from a list of eligible targets.
* Select a Target * Select Raid Size (16v16, 12v12, 8v8) * Execute
On execution, Raider corp fleet is dispatched; ETA 20 minutes. Match can be joined by Raider or Defenders via Corp Contracts. Defenders immediately receive muster mail ( Raiders Inbound! Oddeluf IV - District V. ETA 20 minutes ) and a second muster mail 5 minutes prior to raid ( Raid Imminent! Oddeluf IV - District V. ETA 5 minutes ).
Shoot scout with yes.
-Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:56:00 -
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Whoa whoa whoa, I realized I still have scout suits. SG Bolt Combo XD
The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD
TheYoutube
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.25 23:59:00 -
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In light of the impending PC 2.0 changes, I think we should do some spring cleaning downstairs and establish a defined corporation identity (Charter?) and recruitment policy to have available should the need arise.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.26 00:12:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/ Eh, imagine if you could queue into a raid like a regular match. District holders would be getting raided 24/7. It'd be a nightmare and nobody would ever want to hold a district. I'm not a huge fan of having to operate under the silly timers, but it beats pretty much anything else. CP costs will prevent that.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 00:18:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/ Eh, imagine if you could queue into a raid like a regular match. District holders would be getting raided 24/7. It'd be a nightmare and nobody would ever want to hold a district. I'm not a huge fan of having to operate under the silly timers, but it beats pretty much anything else. You're absolutely right, and I never had that in mind. I'm thinking more in terms of a a daily, one-two hour Raid Window for every District, perhaps sync'd to the District's Attack Timer. If you find yourself with a bunch of corpmates online, round them up into squads, pick an FC, open the starmap and choose from a list of eligible targets. * Select Raid Target * Select Raid Size (16v16, 12v12, 8v8) <--- Dials up/down your PC lag tolerance, CP cost, and loot scale * Execute Raid On execution, Raider corp fleet is dispatched; ETA 20 minutes. Match can be joined by Raider or Defenders via Corp Contracts. Defenders receive an immediate muster mail ( Raiders Inbound! Oddeluf IV - District V. ETA 20 minutes.) and a second muster mail 5 minutes prior to raid ( Raid Imminent! Oddeluf IV - District V. ETA 5 minutes.).
what's your corp tax?
I recently had a rage moment with my corp....left them!
I've been with them for 50 days, the longest i've ever been with a corp
xavier zor
xavier zor
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Flaylock Steve
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 00:24:00 -
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Hey guys, internet been down for about 9 days, whats new in New Eden? |
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 00:28:00 -
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Flaylock Steve wrote:Hey guys, internet been down for about 9 days, whats new in New Eden?
LAST H0PE flamewar Min assault awarded FoTY for being the scrubbiest suit alive PC 2.0 changes released via forums
xavier zor
xavier zor
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.05.26 00:30:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/ Eh, imagine if you could queue into a raid like a regular match. District holders would be getting raided 24/7. It'd be a nightmare and nobody would ever want to hold a district. I'm not a huge fan of having to operate under the silly timers, but it beats pretty much anything else. CP costs will prevent that. I'm not talking about raids from just one corp, I'm talking about raids from every corp in the game that doesn't own a district. Pretty much all of them are going to be raiding since raiding is "free", and if they could just raid at will then owning a district would be hell. If you decide not to show or not to use your A-team to defend against a single raid, you lose your district.
Come to think of it, if you can capture a district through raiding then what the hell is the point of attacking through traditional means? Or does "raiding" just refer to regular PC attacking without the intent of actually winning?
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 00:40:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:... raids seeming to work the same as regular attacks. I don't want to wait 1 or 2 days to raid. That's no good :/ Eh, imagine if you could queue into a raid like a regular match. District holders would be getting raided 24/7. It'd be a nightmare and nobody would ever want to hold a district. I'm not a huge fan of having to operate under the silly timers, but it beats pretty much anything else. CP costs will prevent that. I'm not talking about raids from just one corp, I'm talking about raids from every corp in the game that doesn't own a district. Pretty much all of them are going to be raiding since raiding is "free", and if they could just raid at will then owning a district would be hell. If you decide not to show or not to use your A-team to defend against a single raid, you lose your district. Come to think of it, if you can capture a district through raiding then what the hell is the point of attacking through traditional means? Or does "raiding" just refer to regular PC attacking without the intent of actually winning?
CCP Rattati wanted raiding to be profitable as well for smaller corps that aren't interested in owning a district. He said we could take the district via raiding, then ransom it back for DK or ISK. He also implemented a new payout system; winner gets whatever the losing team AND winning team used. Loser gets 20% of it or something
edit: He also wants districts to be profitable, ISK wise. No passive rewards though..
xavier zor
xavier zor
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:18:00 -
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Nachos wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote: I'm not talking about raids from just one corp, I'm talking about raids from every corp in the game that doesn't own a district. Pretty much all of them are going to be raiding since raiding is "free", and if they could just raid at will then owning a district would be hell. If you decide not to show or not to use your A-team to defend against a single raid, you lose your district.
Come to think of it, if you can capture a district through raiding then what the hell is the point of attacking through traditional means? Or does "raiding" just refer to regular PC attacking without the intent of actually winning?
CCP Rattati wanted raiding to be profitable as well for smaller corps that aren't interested in owning a district. He said we could take the district via raiding, then ransom it back for DK or ISK. He also implemented a new payout system; winner gets whatever the losing team AND winning team used. Loser gets 20% of it or something edit: He also wants districts to be profitable, ISK wise. No passive rewards though.. I know all that, dunno how that pertains to what I was saying.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:41:00 -
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Corp that doesn't want a district. Gets one it raided. Ransom it back. You just took it from.
Hey corp we just took this district from. Want it back? Gimme isk or dk.
Hi corp that just stole our district. Nope
Buttttttttt come onnnnn. Now we has a district we don't want. X(
So can we. 1 sell it to another corp? 2 get stuck with it 3 it just stays there till we let another corp scope it up
The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD
TheYoutube
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:22:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Corp that doesn't want a district. Gets one it raided. Ransom it back. You just took it from.
Hey corp we just took this district from. Want it back? Gimme isk or dk.
Hi corp that just stole our district. Nope
Buttttttttt come onnnnn. Now we has a district we don't want. X(
So can we. 1 sell it to another corp? 2 get stuck with it 3 it just stays there till we let another corp scope it up
Black Market! A place where Pirates can quickly sell unwanted, acquired property. A place where Corps seeking land can purchase it on the cheap.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:27:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote: I'm not talking about raids from just one corp, I'm talking about raids from every corp in the game that doesn't own a district. Pretty much all of them are going to be raiding since raiding is "free", and if they could just raid at will then owning a district would be hell.
no it wouldn't be. As i said before CCP IS MAKING OWNING A DISTRICT PROFITABLE so there IS A REWARD FOR OWNING A DISTRICT.
Pseudogenesis wrote: If you decide not to show or not to use your A-team to defend against a single raid, you lose your district.
still the same as the original PC and current PC mechanics....
Pseudogenisis wrote: Come to think of it, if you can capture a district through raiding then what the hell is the point of attacking through traditional means? Or does "raiding" just refer to regular PC attacking without the intent of actually winning?
CCP Rattati wrote: Raiding This also introduces a way for Corporations that donGÇÖt want to own Districts, to make money by using their earned Command Points to attack their enemies, or easy targets by any definition, to see if they canGÇÖt make money using the recently introduced Keep what you Kill reward method. If a corporation ends up winning a District, and doesnGÇÖt want it, they can always ransom it back as well. We hope to expand on the Raiding concept further down the line, by actually stealing resources from the District owner, possibly by GÇ£instant-sellingGÇ¥ clones for ISK and DK>
You earn command points by completing missions and donating them to the corporation. The more members in your corporation the more command points you earn. Instead of using command points to capture a district, buy/sell clones or buy/sell DK you can use them to attack a district and earn money using the new payout system that will be introduced. If you win then you can either keep the district, use CP/DK to buy more clone packs in preperation for future attack or you you can seel it back to the corp for X amount of CP/DK/ISK
CCP Rattati wrote: 1) Districts will generate Clones exactly as before a) Those clones can be manually sold at an ISK price per clone for Command Points, generating ISK (A) manually (B), or used as before to occupy or attack Districts. b) Clones will not be automatically sold as before, when generation hits the Maximum Clone Capacity of a District (B).
Desirable Rewards from Districts 2) When Clones are sold, a secondary currency is generated, District Kredits (DK/DeekayGÇÖs), and automatically distributed in direct proportion to each corporation members 7 day Command Point contribution of the total CP generated, into the wallet of all applicable corporation members, at a certain price per Clone a) This currency will allow unique purchases from a new category in the Marketplace (B)
Claiming the first District The previous method of breaking into Molden Heath for the first time, is to use a Clone Pack. They have been very expensive and quite demoralizing to lose on your first failed attempt. ThatGÇÖs why Clone Packs cost will be reduced severely, even down to a nominal fee or zero, but given a high Command Point cost. That will make it less useful for District owners as using Clones to attack from Districts will have a much lower opportunity cost, and the Command Points used for better things, such as selling Clones for ISK and DK.
if you actually read what he had to say instead of looking for a TL;DR you wouldn't have to ask
xavier zor
xavier zor
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:34:00 -
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Nachos wrote: if you actually read what he had to say instead of looking for a TL;DR you wouldn't have to ask
Friendly Advice: There's a good chance that Pseudo's thought process is different from yours; I'd keep that in mind when speculating as to what he is or is not looking for or what he has or has not read.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:37:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Nachos wrote: if you actually read what he had to say instead of looking for a TL;DR you wouldn't have to ask
Friendly Advice: There's a good chance that Pseudo's thought process is different from yours; I'd keep that in mind when speculating as to what he is or is not looking for or what he has or has not read.
meh, its just he asked questions already answered by Rattati...
xavier zor
xavier zor
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.26 02:47:00 -
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Woah hit the brakes man, I'm not trying to start any arguments. I was just thinking out loud.
In this:
CCP Rattati wrote: Raiding This also introduces a way for Corporations that donGÇÖt want to own Districts, to make money by using their earned Command Points to attack their enemies, or easy targets by any definition, to see if they canGÇÖt make money using the recently introduced Keep what you Kill reward method. If a corporation ends up winning a District, and doesnGÇÖt want it, they can always ransom it back as well. We hope to expand on the Raiding concept further down the line, by actually stealing resources from the District owner, possibly by GÇ£instant-sellingGÇ¥ clones for ISK and DK>
Raiding is worded ambiguously and doesn't indicate whether "raiding" is an entirely different attack mode they'll be introducing or just a word for attacking a district with a different goal in mind. I was assuming it meant an entirely different mode.
If raids are just regular attacks then everyone and their mother is going to raid a district as soon and as often as they can, because they can essentially do it without penalty. There's nothing else they would want to spend CP on. If this happens, then anyone who owns a district will be under siege constantly, and if they slip up once in any myriad of ways then they immediately lose their property. That's what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter how profitable you make owning a district, the cost of keeping them for any period of time will vastly outweigh the rewards.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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