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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:03:00 -
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Robert Conway wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:black protoskins could be unlockable with the powercores, IF this even possible. There are some complexities, but let me crunch more. Wouldn't it be easier to add the black skins as SKIN modules? Perhaps what he means is once you have achieved the skills to unlock proto; that particular SKIN module would be unlocked for you.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10217
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:04:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:black protoskins could be unlockable with the powercores, IF this even possible. There are some complexities, but let me crunch more. If you can somehow make this possible I will personally stage an uprising (no pun intended) and make you the new Emperor of the Amarr.
NO - YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE, IT WAS YOUR FREAGGIN IDEA
YOU, AERO YASSAVI, MADE OUR DREAMS COME TRUE
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
22596
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. HOLY CHRIST HE FINALLY GOT IT, GUYS - HIS SIGNATURE IS NO JOKE Nah but for real dude we've been trying to illustrate this to CCP for a long time now and I'm ecstatic that we might finally get tieracide -as well as- a potential performance boost. Like, the plausibility that this could be the golden change to make Dust 514 what it was always supposed to be is making my heart race right now; I'm so excited. It's so much of a win/win it's like freaggin strawberry covered cheesecake and I'm fat so that similarity works. I'll be -SOOOO PROUD- when Dust 514 manages something like this.
The powercore idea was the lynchpin, I have never seen that before. Flat progression isn't a complex idea, but it was lacking. This has some "meat" on it.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:10:00 -
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Now these Power Modules will cost 0 PG and 0 CPU right ? Cause adding fitting requirements other than the Skills required to these things would completely kill this idea. |
Avallo Kantor
655
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:13:00 -
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:Now these Power Modules will cost 0 PG and 0 CPU right ? Cause adding fitting requirements other than the Skills required to these things would completely kill this idea.
The idea is that this item is something like a SKIN. It -grants- PG / CPU, not costs it.
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VAHZZ
2103
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:17:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. HOLY CHRIST HE FINALLY GOT IT, GUYS - HIS SIGNATURE IS NO JOKE Nah but for real dude we've been trying to illustrate this to CCP for a long time now and I'm ecstatic that we might finally get tieracide -as well as- a potential performance boost. Like, the plausibility that this could be the golden change to make Dust 514 what it was always supposed to be is making my heart race right now; I'm so excited. It's so much of a win/win it's like freaggin strawberry covered cheesecake and I'm fat so that similarity works. I'll be -SOOOO PROUD- when Dust 514 manages something like this. The powercore idea was the lynchpin, I have never seen that before. Flat progression isn't a complex idea, but it was lacking. This has some "meat" on it.
I am loving your words more and more rattata. If you actually make this possible, you will forever be etched into the halls of Valhalla as our savior and emperor/president.
"I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter."
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
1064
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:32:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff.
dont forget to do it to the vehicles as well |
Oswald Rehnquist
1536
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:41:00 -
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Just dropped $20 on dust just because I see you guys are working on the idea.
Thread has my approval.
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Hawkings Greenback
Dead Man's Game
348
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:50:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 180 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well.
Yes please
But every night I burn.
Screaming the animal scream.
Every night I burn.
Dreaming the crow-black dream.
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Hawkings Greenback
Dead Man's Game
348
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Posted - 2015.05.15 05:52:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. HOLY CHRIST HE FINALLY GOT IT, GUYS - HIS SIGNATURE IS NO JOKE Nah but for real dude we've been trying to illustrate this to CCP for a long time now and I'm ecstatic that we might finally get tieracide -as well as- a potential performance boost. Like, the plausibility that this could be the golden change to make Dust 514 what it was always supposed to be is making my heart race right now; I'm so excited. It's so much of a win/win it's like freaggin strawberry covered cheesecake and I'm fat so that similarity works. I'll be -SOOOO PROUD- when Dust 514 manages something like this. The powercore idea was the lynchpin, I have never seen that before. Flat progression isn't a complex idea, but it was lacking. This has some "meat" on it.
Doesn't it just.
Well done to Aero and Avallo.
But every night I burn.
Screaming the animal scream.
Every night I burn.
Dreaming the crow-black dream.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9909
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:00:00 -
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Amarr are the good guys
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19043
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:01:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. dont forget to do it to the vehicles as well EDIT: are there any other cases of multiple unique assets that we could cut down in a similar way? weapons for example? how many weapons and variants are there total?
Thinking about the ones off the top of my head
Soma Madrugar G-1 Madrugar G/1 Madrugar Gk.0 Marduk G-1 Marduk G/1 Marduk Gk.0 Quafe Madrugar G-1 or G/1 Praetoriam Madrugar G/1 A-102 Madrugar Creodron Breach HAV Sica Gunnlogi C-1 Gunnlogi C/1 Gunnlogi Ck.0 Gladius C-1 Gladius C/1 Gladius Ck.0 Quafe Gunnlogi C-1 H-130 Gunnlogi Kalakiotaa Tactical HAV
That's only talking HAV not including an DS or LAV.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
270
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:07:00 -
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How would Officer suits work due to their unique style?
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9909
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:13:00 -
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Robert Conway wrote:How would Officer suits work due to their unique style? Assuming power cores can only change CPU and PG, not slots, there will likely still need to be offer suits opposed to officer power cores. Not a big deal add those are relatively few and we're still wiping a ton of redundant suits.
Amarr are the good guys
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Avallo Kantor
658
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:14:00 -
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Robert Conway wrote:How would Officer suits work due to their unique style?
Officer dropsuits have unique slot configurations. Powercores (as proposed) do not have the ability to modify slot layout. As such, Officer Dropsuits would still be separate.
Powercores, as currently described, only enhance PG/CPU layout, which in combination with a 'teiricide' effort would effectively reduce the number of dropsuits from 120 down to a handful.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9909
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:16:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:Robert Conway wrote:How would Officer suits work due to their unique style? Officer dropsuits have unique slot configurations. Powercores (as proposed) do not have the ability to modify slot layout. As such, Officer Dropsuits would still be separate. Powercores, as currently described, only enhance PG/CPU layout, which in combination with a 'teiricide' effort would effectively reduce the number of dropsuits from 120 down to a handful. 180 actually as I forgot loyalty suits, and reduce it all the way down to 20.
Amarr are the good guys
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
271
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Assuming power cores can only change CPU and PG, not slots, there will likely still need to be offer suits opposed to officer power cores. Not a big deal add those are relatively few and we're still wiping a ton of redundant suits.
Avallo Kantor wrote:Officer dropsuits have unique slot configurations. Powercores (as proposed) do not have the ability to modify slot layout. As such, Officer Dropsuits would still be separate.
Powercores, as currently described, only enhance PG/CPU layout, which in combination with a 'teiricide' effort would effectively reduce the number of dropsuits from 120 down to a handful.
That's why I asked. Better to work out all the kinks now.
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
10220
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. HOLY CHRIST HE FINALLY GOT IT, GUYS - HIS SIGNATURE IS NO JOKE Nah but for real dude we've been trying to illustrate this to CCP for a long time now and I'm ecstatic that we might finally get tieracide -as well as- a potential performance boost. Like, the plausibility that this could be the golden change to make Dust 514 what it was always supposed to be is making my heart race right now; I'm so excited. It's so much of a win/win it's like freaggin strawberry covered cheesecake and I'm fat so that similarity works. I'll be -SOOOO PROUD- when Dust 514 manages something like this. The powercore idea was the lynchpin, I have never seen that before. Flat progression isn't a complex idea, but it was lacking. This has some "meat" on it.
Was more referring to the performance increase of nyxxing so many suits as well as the potential for tieracide. Power cores or not you're potentially killing two birds with one....
Well. Power core.
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deezy dabest
2273
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 180 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well.
While I have always suppored of more of an Eve based system of T1 and T2 for specialization this is seriously good stuff.
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Bishop Harcourt
K-A-O-S theory
19
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:53:00 -
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God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust.
Logibro,
Director,
KAOS THEORY's Official Minister of Science and Magic.
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deezy dabest
2275
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:56:00 -
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Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust.
I honestly vote that we somehow be able to like this more that once. It is such a simple and AMAZING solution that even having first read it about 10 minutes ago I am still a bit dumbfounded by how great it is.
I nominate this for thread of the year and automatic CPM status. |
NINEinch WEAPON
WarRavens
93
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Posted - 2015.05.15 06:59:00 -
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Have all my likes. .....
"winning" an inch at a time
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
6187
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:05:00 -
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@Bishop Harcourt
+1's for everybody.
Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
276
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:08:00 -
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Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust. Oh he's right! Time to ban him for "Like" farming!
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Haerr
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2905
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:23:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
POWER CORES 20 Suits instead of hundreds. Cool. +1
MINA Longstrike wrote:Copypasting from other thread and expanding with a little extra stream of thought: Would it be possible to assign a suits role bonus to the powercore module? and allow it to enable/disable slots?
So in theory you only have light, medium and heavy frames but the powercore applies the role bonus (via referencing a check on player skill level), pg/cpu values and flavors/enables weapon loadouts - assuming tiericide here. Commandos might need their own frame still but that drops the huge number of suits in the game down to 16 or so. 12 Suits instead of hundreds? Even better! +1
DeathwindRising wrote:dont forget to do it to the vehicles as well
EDIT: are there any other cases of multiple unique assets that we could cut down in a similar way? weapons for example?
how many weapons and variants are there total? So much yes. +1 |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9923
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:23:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust. I honestly vote that we somehow be able to like this more that once. It is such a simple and AMAZING solution that even having first read it about 10 minutes ago I am still a bit dumbfounded by how great it is. I nominate this for thread of the year and automatic CPM status. There an easy solution to getting multiple likes per idea
Amarr are the good guys
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
19052
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust. I honestly vote that we somehow be able to like this more that once. It is such a simple and AMAZING solution that even having first read it about 10 minutes ago I am still a bit dumbfounded by how great it is. I nominate this for thread of the year and automatic CPM status. There an easy solution to getting multiple likes per idea
Go through every one of his posts since the start of his time on the forums.....
What are you guys still doing here?
Go! LIKE HIS POSTS!
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9923
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust. I honestly vote that we somehow be able to like this more that once. It is such a simple and AMAZING solution that even having first read it about 10 minutes ago I am still a bit dumbfounded by how great it is. I nominate this for thread of the year and automatic CPM status. There an easy solution to getting multiple likes per idea Go through every one of his posts since the start of his time on the forums..... What are you guys still doing here? Go! LIKE HIS POSTS! I can once again pass up True in likes!
Amarr are the good guys
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deezy dabest
2275
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:28:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust. I honestly vote that we somehow be able to like this more that once. It is such a simple and AMAZING solution that even having first read it about 10 minutes ago I am still a bit dumbfounded by how great it is. I nominate this for thread of the year and automatic CPM status. There an easy solution to getting multiple likes per idea
I was speaking more about likes piling on to something that deserves more than one like.
Anyone can like all of a persons posts in a thread but the point I am looking for is still not conveyed.
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Robert Conway
Concordiat Mercenaries
278
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Posted - 2015.05.15 07:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Bishop Harcourt wrote:God damn Aero and Avallo, this is the most genius like farm in all my time in Dust. I honestly vote that we somehow be able to like this more that once. It is such a simple and AMAZING solution that even having first read it about 10 minutes ago I am still a bit dumbfounded by how great it is. I nominate this for thread of the year and automatic CPM status. There an easy solution to getting multiple likes per idea Yes. Make multiple alts and "Like" yourself. All of my "Likes" are from my alts. No one TRULY liked what I said. Just me.
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