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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.23 13:55:00 -
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G Clone wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pHiL03gy5uNwjFAUQEljbFOn1bKJB96rT098BgoPpbo/edit?usp=sharing
Looks like current escalation in CPU/PG differs between suit-sizes.
Interesting to see that the PILOT suits are listed there.
EDIT: An interesting observation here. The following roles per race seem to be the most dominant in their race in terms of CPU and PG availability.
Minmatar = Scouts Gallente = Logistics Caldari = Somewhere between Logistics and Heavies Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!
EDIT: Question, is this from Rattati himself?
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.05.23 16:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Anyone any views on tiericide marginalising suits with lesser slot progression?
eg. currently, scouts get one slot per tier, max. six. Assaults get two per tier, max. eight. Assaults will have an extra two slots for PG/CPU mods, scouts the one. Power creep is higher. It's likely that the Cores will be categorized by both race and role. Yeah that's my thinking too, but it doesn't address my question, which I don't think I explained very well. Scouts will get six slots. Assaults will get eight. Assaults get more room for PG/CPU mods, allowing their power to creep more than scouts. It was my understanding that scouts are always weaker than assaults in some areas. But what you're forgetting here are the bonuses. Scouts are the only suits that benefit from the cloaking fitting bonus and EWAR. Assaults do not benefit from this at all.
What I'm saying is that the current inter-class balance will change. For example, a STD-core assault will be more powerful than today, due to 4 extra slots. A STD-core scout will be more powerful than today, due to 2 extra slots. This is what I call power creep. However, the power creeps *more* for the assaults due to base number of slots. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2015.05.23 18:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:G Clone wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pHiL03gy5uNwjFAUQEljbFOn1bKJB96rT098BgoPpbo/edit?usp=sharing
Looks like current escalation in CPU/PG differs between suit-sizes. Interesting to see that the PILOT suits are listed there. EDIT: An interesting observation here. The following roles per race seem to be the most dominant in their race in terms of CPU and PG availability. Minmatar = Scouts Gallente = Logistics Caldari = Somewhere between Logistics and Heavies Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!! EDIT: Question, is this from Rattati himself?
Looks like it was built from and SDE, when i couldnt tell you tho
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:39:00 -
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Poor Aero Yassavi came too late for the lecture. I was just about to finish when all of a sudden he stopped by to say "HI". XD
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.05.24 12:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Poor Aero Yassavi came too late for the lecture. I was just about to finish when all of a sudden he stopped by to say "HI". XD
Lecture is up: https://youtu.be/_j8aqIW6lYI
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.05.24 15:42:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Poor Aero Yassavi came too late for the lecture. I was just about to finish when all of a sudden he stopped by to say "HI". XD Lecture is up: https://youtu.be/_j8aqIW6lYI
I'm nine minutes into the video and I don't think I'm going to be able to tolerate that dipshit talking over you for much longer. He's taken the discussion off topic and he isn't willing to listen because he's convinced he's right and no one else knows what they're talking about.
This may seem a bit much, but would you be able to do a second video? One where you can actually focus on the topic of discussion? Maybe one where you compile and read off questions and answers rather than inviting people into the chat with you. It'd be a bit more beneficial if you could get Aero in on it, too, since he apparently missed the shenanigans of this video. You two could even bounce things off of each other to come up with other questions that may not have been brought up.
[Edit] Scratch that, I apparently paused just seconds before someone told him to shut up so they could get back to the discussion.
Skip to 8:38 when dipshit pipes up, everyone. |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.05.24 16:00:00 -
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I did an interview with Shayz which had prepared questions and went pretty straight forward. Not sure if it was ever uploaded. I'd be down for more if anyone is still confused about this whole ordeal, preferably with a little bit more warming ahead of time.
I think pretty much everyone understands the concept by now though. What would be more interesting is a topic discussing specific CPU and PG values for standard and advanced powercores. . .
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.05.24 18:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I did an interview with Shayz which had prepared questions and went pretty straight forward. Not sure if it was ever uploaded. I'd be down for more if anyone is still confused about this whole ordeal, preferably with a little bit more warming ahead of time.
I think pretty much everyone understands the concept by now though. What would be more interesting is a topic discussing specific CPU and PG values for standard and advanced powercores. . . I'm convinced you're a Dev alt.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 19:00:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I did an interview with Shayz which had prepared questions and went pretty straight forward. Not sure if it was ever uploaded. I'd be down for more if anyone is still confused about this whole ordeal, preferably with a little bit more warming ahead of time.
I think pretty much everyone understands the concept by now though. What would be more interesting is a topic discussing specific CPU and PG values for standard and advanced powercores. . . I'm convinced you're a Dev alt. The main fallacy here is none of the devs like the Amarr, outside of when we had Wolfman. Even with the Amarr's officer suit none of the devs wanted to put their name on it, and made it the clear worst officer.
Unless that's all part of my master disguise!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.05.24 21:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I did an interview with Shayz which had prepared questions and went pretty straight forward. Not sure if it was ever uploaded. I'd be down for more if anyone is still confused about this whole ordeal, preferably with a little bit more warming ahead of time.
I think pretty much everyone understands the concept by now though. What would be more interesting is a topic discussing specific CPU and PG values for standard and advanced powercores. . . I'm convinced you're a Dev alt. The main fallacy here is none of the devs like the Amarr, outside of when we had Wolfman. Even with the Amarr's officer suit none of the devs wanted to put their name on it, and made it the clear worst officer. Unless that's all part of my master disguise! Hmm... You have better grammar than most of the Devs, that's for sure... That may just be a disguise though... I could imagine a Dev getting as involved in RP and FW as you are, and the reason why none of the Devs wanted to put their name on the Officer suit could be that they are only Amarr supporters on their main, i.e. you. Naturally, they couldn't put the Yassavi name on the suits, since that would give away their identity.
Would you like a tinfoil hat too?
If you were a Dev alt, I estimate you would have between 200-400 kills per week, since Rattati has said that he often plays a couple a games every day, though he couldn't play it all the time, I'm sure. I'll check that later tonight...
I definitely think you are a good contender for Rattati's alt, or perhaps another Dev. I need to hear you speak though to see if you have an Icelandic accent...
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Nachos
Rogue Instincts New Eden's Heros
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:G Clone wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pHiL03gy5uNwjFAUQEljbFOn1bKJB96rT098BgoPpbo/edit?usp=sharing
Looks like current escalation in CPU/PG differs between suit-sizes. Interesting to see that the PILOT suits are listed there. EDIT: An interesting observation here. The following roles per race seem to be the most dominant in their race in terms of CPU and PG availability. Minmatar = Scouts Gallente = Logistics Caldari = Somewhere between Logistics and Heavies Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!! EDIT: Question, is this from Rattati himself?
weird....considering i have run all those suits and the min scout is by far the squishiest suit of them all to run!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.05.25 01:50:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:G Clone wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pHiL03gy5uNwjFAUQEljbFOn1bKJB96rT098BgoPpbo/edit?usp=sharing
Looks like current escalation in CPU/PG differs between suit-sizes. Interesting to see that the PILOT suits are listed there. EDIT: An interesting observation here. The following roles per race seem to be the most dominant in their race in terms of CPU and PG availability. Minmatar = Scouts Gallente = Logistics Caldari = Somewhere between Logistics and Heavies Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!! EDIT: Question, is this from Rattati himself? Looks like it was built from and SDE, when i couldnt tell you tho
After my recent lecture, I just had the realization that this may not be from Rattati as I originally thought. I like to apologize for any confusion I may have caused as a result of that mistake.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.25 02:18:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Poor Aero Yassavi came too late for the lecture. I was just about to finish when all of a sudden he stopped by to say "HI". XD Lecture is up: https://youtu.be/_j8aqIW6lYI I'm nine minutes into the video and I don't think I'm going to be able to tolerate that dipshit talking over you for much longer. He's taken the discussion off topic and he isn't willing to listen because he's convinced he's right and no one else knows what they're talking about. This may seem a bit much, but would you be able to do a second video? One where you can actually focus on the topic of discussion? Maybe one where you compile and read off questions and answers rather than inviting people into the chat with you. It'd be a bit more beneficial if you could get Aero in on it, too, since he apparently missed the shenanigans of this video. You two could even bounce things off of each other to come up with other questions that may not have been brought up. [Edit] Scratch that, I apparently paused just seconds before someone told him to shut up so they could get back to the discussion. Skip to 8:38 when dipshit pipes up, everyone. [Edit2] Holy ****, he keeps opening his mouth.
Because of that guy constantly cutting in on my lecture like that and seeming to dominate my lecture (as if he thinks he is in charge there), I will remember to not give him -- and others who act like him -- that chance anymore. If people like to interrupt, they will get no sympathy from me when I do the same to them. I'm the one that is doing the lecture, not that guy.
After interrupting me and then when I try to say something to bring the lecture back on topic he seems to just ignore me for a while before he finished whatever it was he was saying. On top of that, a lot of what that guy was asking about would already be answered IF he had at least waited a while because my notes covered those points later on in the discussion. He also kept asking the same question early on in the lecture that was answered multiple times already. "What's the point?" If he had waited and paid attention to what I was saying, he would have known by now what the point is. To free up the memory in the PS3 and to eliminate redundancy in the suits.
And honestly, the lecture was not about bad mouthing CCP. I may do that sometimes, but only in a constructive way. Calling CCP ******** (like the guy in the lecture did) is not constructive at all. That is not professional in any way and it's a guarantee that the person saying it will not get the attention they seek from any developer they are criticizing.
I just hope that everyone learned something from that lecture other than the constant interruptions.
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.25 05:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Poor Aero Yassavi came too late for the lecture. I was just about to finish when all of a sudden he stopped by to say "HI". XD Lecture is up: https://youtu.be/_j8aqIW6lYI I'm nine minutes into the video and I don't think I'm going to be able to tolerate that dipshit talking over you for much longer. He's taken the discussion off topic and he isn't willing to listen because he's convinced he's right and no one else knows what they're talking about. This may seem a bit much, but would you be able to do a second video? One where you can actually focus on the topic of discussion? Maybe one where you compile and read off questions and answers rather than inviting people into the chat with you. It'd be a bit more beneficial if you could get Aero in on it, too, since he apparently missed the shenanigans of this video. You two could even bounce things off of each other to come up with other questions that may not have been brought up. [Edit] Scratch that, I apparently paused just seconds before someone told him to shut up so they could get back to the discussion. Skip to 8:38 when dipshit pipes up, everyone. [Edit2] Holy ****, he keeps opening his mouth. Because of that guy constantly cutting in on my lecture like that and seeming to dominate my lecture (as if he thinks he is in charge there), I will remember to not give him -- and others who act like him -- that chance anymore. If people like to interrupt, they will get no sympathy from me when I do the same to them. I'm the one that is doing the lecture, not that guy. After interrupting me and then when I try to say something to bring the lecture back on topic he seems to just ignore me for a while before he finished whatever it was he was saying. On top of that, a lot of what that guy was asking about would already be answered IF he had at least waited a while because my notes covered those points later on in the discussion. He also kept asking the same question early on in the lecture that was answered multiple times already. "What's the point?" If he had waited and paid attention to what I was saying, he would have known by now what the point is. To free up the memory in the PS3 and to eliminate redundancy in the suits. And honestly, the lecture was not about bad mouthing CCP. I may do that sometimes, but only in a constructive way. Calling CCP ******** (like the guy in the lecture did) is not constructive at all. That is not professional in any way and it's a guarantee that the person saying it will not get the attention they seek from any developer they are criticizing. I just hope that everyone learned something from that lecture other than the constant interruptions. I'm sorry, man, but very few people are gonna sit through that first nine minutes of absolute bullshit to actually learn anything from the video, let alone the whole thing. And he interrupts so damn much that you barely got to cover anything at all, and the little of which you did get to discuss would be damn hard to find. Plus the couple of minutes that got lost when the guy recording got disconnected, assuming anything productive even managed to happen during that. There's not nearly enough talking about the Power Core idea and way too much of a single ******** dominating the chat. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.05.25 09:33:00 -
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I thought you handled that well Maken, though it's a pity there's not some easy way for the host to control that sort of thing. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.05.25 09:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:G Clone wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pHiL03gy5uNwjFAUQEljbFOn1bKJB96rT098BgoPpbo/edit?usp=sharing
Looks like current escalation in CPU/PG differs between suit-sizes. Interesting to see that the PILOT suits are listed there. EDIT: An interesting observation here. The following roles per race seem to be the most dominant in their race in terms of CPU and PG availability. Minmatar = Scouts Gallente = Logistics Caldari = Somewhere between Logistics and Heavies Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!! EDIT: Question, is this from Rattati himself? Looks like it was built from and SDE, when i couldnt tell you tho After my recent lecture, I just had the realization that this may not be from Rattati as I originally thought. I like to apologize for any confusion I may have caused as a result of that mistake.
I'd assumed it was from G Clone the person that posted it. He didn't really explain what he put it together for...short of showing the PG/CPU progression wasn't linear across suits. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.05.25 16:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!
Crusader was the original concept name for commander dropsuits, things that were to provide squad/team-wide bonuses as buffs.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:43:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Amarr = CRUSADER????????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!
Crusader was the original concept name for commander dropsuits, things that were to provide squad/team-wide bonuses as buffs.
Why do I keep forgetting about that?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.05.26 01:48:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:I thought you handled that well Maken, though it's a pity there's not some easy way for the host to control that sort of thing.
I will remember to adjust my mic accordingly next time. I noticed that I sound about as quiet as a mouse when I was giving my lectures which might explain why the guy was able to talk over me effectively. Being loud and clear is something I'm trying to aim for but obviously I wasn't loud enough that day. I will not make that mistake again.
The reason my mic was set to "3" in the accessory settings of the PS3 was because I didn't want to be too loud especially when I was in a squad when the Squad Leader needs to be heard (I'm almost never squad leader anyways). I will remember to adjust that to a louder setting at least only for the lectures.
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xp3ll3d dust
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2015.05.26 07:25:00 -
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Looks like the discussion has moved to this thread, with Rattati posting his idea of how it could be implemented https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2790605#post2790605
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2
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Posted - 2015.05.26 07:50:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:I thought you handled that well Maken, though it's a pity there's not some easy way for the host to control that sort of thing. I will remember to adjust my mic accordingly next time. I noticed that I sound about as quiet as a mouse when I was giving my lectures which might explain why the guy was able to talk over me effectively. Being loud and clear is something I'm trying to aim for but obviously I wasn't loud enough that day. I will not make that mistake again. The reason my mic was set to "3" in the accessory settings of the PS3 was because I didn't want to be too loud especially when I was in a squad when the Squad Leader needs to be heard (I'm almost never squad leader anyways). I will remember to adjust that to a louder setting at least only for the lectures.
Let me know if the vid can be edited in any way, and also for future, I notice you have a youtube channel, I have no problem putting the mp4 up privately so you can grab it and put it on your own youtube site? I can see a tiny bit of confusion in the comments there...anyway happy to do that if you want. This is DUST Uni IP afaic :) |
Scotty AI MatchMaker
The Templis Dragonaurs
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Posted - 2015.05.27 11:27:00 -
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i was just wondering had anyone taken into account male/female suits? its x2 if i'm correct
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james rains
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.27 12:37:00 -
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Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:i was just wondering had anyone taken into account male/female suits? its x2 if i'm correct
I do believe they use the same suits.
21+ million SP.
Only good assault ck.0 out there.
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james rains
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2015.05.27 12:38:00 -
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Looking forward to this.
21+ million SP.
Only good assault ck.0 out there.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:20:00 -
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james rains wrote:Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:i was just wondering had anyone taken into account male/female suits? its x2 if i'm correct I do believe they use the same suits.
Even if there are separate models for male and female, that is still taking out over 80% of redundant items from the system memory.
Before: 180*2=360 After: 20*2=40
360-40=320 redundant suits taken out of the system.
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Templar XIII
Vherokior Combat Logistics
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Posted - 2015.05.30 22:41:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:james rains wrote:Scotty AI MatchMaker wrote:i was just wondering had anyone taken into account male/female suits? its x2 if i'm correct I do believe they use the same suits. Even if there are separate models for male and female, that is still taking out over 80% of redundant items from the system memory. Before: 180*2=360 After: 20*2=40 360-40=320 redundant suits taken out of the system.
This here makes it 12 suits, 24 for both genders, and covers militia, basic and officer suits as well as Tiericide and noTiericide cases... |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy No Context
6
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:04:00 -
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So is this still happening or what?
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Mina Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.07.30 03:11:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So is this still happening or what?
Suits all getting the same slot counts as their pro variant was phase 1 of powercores.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.07.30 11:51:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So is this still happening or what? You're still happening. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.07.30 11:54:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So is this still happening or what? Power cores have not been canceled.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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