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Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9841	Posted - 2015.05.14 17:43:00 - [1] - Quote Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it. Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180. The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early. Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Droopy Bawlz myrtle beach leap frogz 255	Posted - 2015.05.14 17:44:00 - [2] - Quote What about LP variants? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9841	Posted - 2015.05.14 17:45:00 - [3] - Quote Droopy Bawlz wrote: What about LP variants? Added. And doh! Meant to put this in features and ideas. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 232	Posted - 2015.05.14 17:48:00 - [4] - Quote I like the idea. More memory space, more room for content. Amarr Victor Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9845	Posted - 2015.05.14 17:53:00 - [5] - Quote Isa Lucifer wrote: I like the idea. More memory space, more room for content. Not only that but it makes fitting screens and asset management much more user friendly Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16724	Posted - 2015.05.14 17:53:00 - [6] - Quote I am approvings. "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1564	Posted - 2015.05.14 18:28:00 - [7] - Quote I support this idea as well. Overlord of Broman
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 232	Posted - 2015.05.14 18:35:00 - [8] - Quote I think of the core as in Iron man, but instead of in the front, we get it in the backpack that most suits have. Or in the back, in the case of light frames and Gallente. Amarr Victor Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1423	Posted - 2015.05.14 18:37:00 - [9] - Quote My name is Jonny D Buelle and this is my favourite post on General Discussions. Today's special: PAIN Comes with a side of salads and mash potatoes.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 107	Posted - 2015.05.14 18:39:00 - [10] - Quote Yes!!! CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers

Ku Shala PIanet Express 1445	Posted - 2015.05.14 18:42:00 - [11] - Quote move this to the right section already +1 *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist Feed me souls and I shall make it rain death from the sky.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 447	Posted - 2015.05.14 18:59:00 - [12] - Quote Might add a bit of lore into the game through these power cores. I'm all for it! Click me

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 22567	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:27:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it. Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180. The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early. Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Lac Nokomis Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 84	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:30:00 - [14] - Quote Just showin' support +1
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1258	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:37:00 - [15] - Quote +1 Brilliant. !--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
Golden Day Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1756	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:45:00 - [16] - Quote Awww....wwuuuuuttt Id have to grind for cores again??!! (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Vell0cet OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3111	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:45:00 - [17] - Quote Another way of reducing assets would be to: 1. Add a mechanism to easily, prominently and conveniently convert AUR to ISK through a system like Guild Wars 2 where supply/demand determines the price, but CCP has all of the control on their end. 2. Unlock all gear at level 1 for a given skill. 3. Convert all existing AUR items to ISK version (excluding BPOs) 4. Delete AUR items from the database. 5. Remove the recording of the woman's voice in the warbarge: "Aurum, do more, faster." This would radically clean up the database, simplify the market and new-player experience, simplify inventories and fitting management, make updating items easier for CCP, and probably significantly boost revenue. I have no interest in buying AUR gear (except BPOs), but I would be willing to buy ISK for AUR (without going through player-run EVE ISK exchanges). This would not conflict with the OP's proposal BTW. Best PvE idea ever!
VAHZZ 2097	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:46:00 - [18] - Quote This....is....perfect. "I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter."
Dead Cavino Lunatic.High 85	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:47:00 - [19] - Quote This will unfortunately never happen now that Rattati is now headless. +1 I don't like two-legged things.
VAHZZ 2098	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:50:00 - [20] - Quote Dead Cavino wrote: This will unfortunately never happen now that Rattati is now headless. +1 Damn...should've thought of that.. "I bring nothing; I bless nothing, I save nothing, I just; erase. Completely. Shatter."

Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 2198	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:52:00 - [21] - Quote Showing support to this as well. +1 CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Makuta Miserix Nos Nothi 497	Posted - 2015.05.15 02:57:00 - [22] - Quote Dead Cavino wrote: This will unfortunately never happen now that Rattati is now headless. +1 Oh, shoot. He's right. +1 to the OP. Proud supporter of Scouts. Makuta Miserix the Assault/Logi part time Scout. Private Beta Veteran Dust 514/Starhawk
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3114	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:11:00 - [23] - Quote Copypasting from other thread and expanding with a little extra stream of thought: Would it be possible to assign a suits role bonus to the powercore module? and allow it to enable/disable slots? So in theory you only have light, medium and heavy frames but the powercore applies the role bonus (via referencing a check on player skill level), pg/cpu values and flavors/enables weapon loadouts - assuming tiericide here. Commandos might need their own frame still but that drops the huge number of suits in the game down to 16 or so. It sounds like this set up might take some load off of the server as there'd no longer be a huge number of unique dropsuits just the same suits running different skins/powercores. All suits come with 'militia powercores' fitted that don't have role bonuses and provide the current stats of militia suits, then skilling into [flavor of dropsuit] both unlocks the powercore/doctrine (I like the sound of [racial assault] doctrine because datacores already exist in eve), this might allow us to prune it down to like 3 suits per race. If it can be set up so that powercores enable or disable specific slots (ie commando's 2 light weapons, logis -> more equipment & no sidearm) it might be possible to get it down to 12 dropsuits total. Powercores could be bought with LP, Aur or Isk. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 131	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:11:00 - [24] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. The only purpose of all the busyness in suits/fits/skills/weapons is to suck SP/ISK/AUR. Read some CCP interviews, their economist is pretty sharp. Not their programmers, ick. But the entire system is built on source and sink of resources. Regardless of what they are. If they can keep you burning time, SP, ISK and AUR (Praise The Sun!) then they are on mission. Your proposal doesn't serve that purpose. Quit using logic, Dust514 is a logic free zone. For that matter, so is all of New Eden. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19036	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:15:00 - [25] - Quote Aero.... random thought but doesn't this premise kind of complicate the role of BPO's in general since you could theoretically just stick the core of your choice in the BPO allowing you to field a dropsuit with the capacity of proto gear at a cheaper cost. I may well be missing something here. If that is the case would all suit BPOs be converted to SKINS of their respective Frame Size and Race? E.G- Suit Costs 25,000 ISK and Proto Core Costs 75,000 ISK BPO Costs 0 ISK and the Proto Core Costs 75,000 ISK You are still fielding a Prototype suit but bypassing a percentage of the costs to do so. Unlike what we have not where your BPO have their capabilities set to X tier and you build up from there. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3114	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:19:00 - [26] - Quote Glyd Path wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. The only purpose of all the busyness in suits/fits/skills/weapons is to suck SP/ISK/AUR. Read some CCP interviews, their economist is pretty sharp. Not their programmers, ick. But the entire system is built on source and sink of resources. Regardless of what they are. If they can keep you burning time, SP, ISK and AUR (Praise The Sun!) then they are on mission. Your proposal doesn't serve that purpose. Quit using logic, Dust514 is a logic free zone. For that matter, so is all of New Eden. This changes absolutely nothing about suit progression. read carefully. It essentially just prunes out every single 'unique' dropsuit model in existence (THIS IS A GOOD THING, THERE'S 180 SEPARATE DROPSUIT MODELS THAT THE GAME HAS TO TRY TO REMEMBER!) and instead of skilling into a better 'suit' you skill into a better powercore. So in theory a suit would start with 0cpu/0pg until a powercore is fit which at its very base level functions like cpu/pg modules (and you dont need to worry about having a 0cpu/0pg dropsuit because all suits come with a free mlt powercore in them). There's still incentive to buy aurum powercores, there's still incentive to buy bpo's (as they would in theory provide both a skin and a powercore). There's still incentive to earn or purchase apex suits as they come with a ton of free modules on them. Essentially the suit is just a piece of hardware until the powercore is slotted in, whereupon it tells it "No, you're a logistics suit" and it also serves as the basic powerplant & computer cpu to the suit. It could even serve as the thing that identifies the suit (aka, 'quafe assault' from the quafe assault powercore, 'State Rasetsu' from the rasetsu powercore) Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 508	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:19:00 - [27] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it. Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180. The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early. Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. I like this idea.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8765	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:22:00 - [28] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it. Currently we have 120 unique base suits. 5 roles 4 races 3 tiers 3 variants aurum and ISK and LP Compounded together is 180. The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early. Now you have 5 roles 4 races nothing else Compounded is 20 unique suits You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. This idea is goddamn brilliant, by the way. you and Avallo have a good thing here. And it's a damn sight more simple to pull off than my ideas. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3114	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:27:00 - [29] - Quote Rattati's Reaction Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9731	Posted - 2015.05.15 03:27:00 - [30] - Quote Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)



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