You don't think that being able to cloak whenever you feel like for an entire game (by using an advanced or proto) is ridiculous? You don't think that shooting someone in the act of decloaking is unfair?

As a dedicated Scout since before Chrome, cloaks are easy mode.

You don't have to fit anything past an advanced cloak. 60 seconds is an eternity on the battlefield and for those who have learned to micro-manage their cloaking habits, you never have to worry about running out. There's no risk. Fitting a cloak is a great advantage but there's no sacrifice on the fitting screen either. Reduce our bonus to cloak fitting. I would also advocate for the cloaking device stats being changed. Cloaking times for Std/Adv/Cplx possibly being 20/30/45 secs. with reactivation being 50%/66%/66%. With complete drain you'd have to wait 10/20/30 secs.

The risks the scouts had before 1.8 have mostly been removed due to how lenient the cloak is. Instant on/instant off needs to be corrected. Give it a charge up time when activated as if the suit is rerouting power and calibrating the cloaking device and a cooldown upon deactivation as if the suit is rerouting power to your primary systems again. This will force people to think when to or not to use the device.

As far as I understood the reasoning for having cloaks, they were to be used as a positioning tool. To allow scouts to traverse open terrain with less fear of rifles. Any scout will tell you that any rifle is a sniper rifle. Open terrain between cover was approached with extreme caution and paranoia. Now, I'm against the cloaking device deactivating when taking damage because this will promote "praying and spraying" which rewards luck. I am however thinking that an extended shield flicker effect would help people who spotted a cloaker in keeping their crosshair on the cloaked mercenary. Currently there's no punishment for being seen.

Speaking about forcing mercenaries to decloak. A cloaking device is essentially bending light around you. Flux grenades are an EMP device, Electro-Magnetic Pulse. Light is apart of the EM band. Flux grenades should overload a cloaking device as well as any flash-bang grenade if one ever gets implemented. There needs to be a counter. This would help mercs against a cloaker inside buildings.

Another reasonable expectation while having the cloak activated is having your systems struggling to interpret any incoming data so your prey vanishes from your passive scanner as well as seeing false positives. Additionally, the ability to hack while cloaked should be removed. Having any Wi-Fi while cocooned in a distortion-well doesn't make much sense to me.

Having your cloak deactivate while in proximity to another mercenary, supply depot, CRU or null cannon would add another level of strategy but I see that's being frowned upon. I think having two scouts decloak and having an "oh sh*t" moment because one got too close to the other would be hilarious. It would force you to think of entry and exit points more thoroughly.

Brick tanking scouts are a problem... in a sense. It's their ability to get under your passive and find a superior position. This, coupled with a rifle which is mid-range, is what is more powerful than a SG. It takes the enemy a slight bit more time to find and target. Brick tanked scouts w/o a cloak would be just as powerful. People who brick tank shore up the scouts weakness and yet still have the passive scanner bonuses because the suit's default value has been changed. This one is tricky but changing the HP modules to a percentage based gain versus a flat number would correct this... but the Devs would have to adjust all the other suits accordingly so no other suit suffered. In other words, a time vampire. Another possibility is that the cloak shimmer should be increased so that dampeners can reduce cloak shimmer while plates increase shimmer again, not sure about this one because I have put much thought into it. Maybe just the increase in shimmer with the dampener counter would be enough.

Why are you exaggerating? You know full well the adv cloak only lasts 60 seconds; the proto is 80.. That would be the fastest ambush ever.

You've been playing for so long yet you have 3 likes. Either you have really bad posts or you're just pretending to make it seem like a scout agree's he's so OP and needs nerfed before he destroys the game.

I can activate my cloak and flank some enemies. I would decloak only to kill someone. While, I am killing someone, my cloak cooldown is regenerating. Once I've killed the guy, I can cloak and go flank someone else. With this system, I can cloak anytime I want and stay cloaked for as long as I need. I wouldn't need 60 secs to get away from someone.

With tanks, you have to be careful when you activate your modules..because the moment they are deactivated, you have to wait the entire cooldown time to be able to use it again. I would have damage mods activated anytime I needed them to if I pulled out my tank.

Ya well a tank moves at 30mps and has 3,000-10,000 hp (I guess. not sure. Maybe without hardeners?) I'm a scout moving at a blazing speed of 10.3 with 400 hp. To compare the two is ridiculous.

you mean like Tech Ohm telling you about unbalanced rifles ?
or how about unbalanced tanks going too fast?
swarm range being nerfed too much?

instead you listened to Tankahiro ,Speaker and others in 1.6 and gave further buffs to tanks and buffs to rifles for 1.7

I hope you listen to shoot while being cloaked is BROKEN
but does it matter?

not really .

the PS4 Migration by September at latest or sooner by June .

If dust remains unbalanced then its other games to play

I can activate my cloak and flank some enemies. I would decloak only to kill someone. While, I am killing someone, my cloak cooldown is regenerating. Once I've killed the guy, I can cloak and go flank someone else. With this system, I can cloak anytime I want and stay cloaked for as long as I need. I wouldn't need 60 secs to get away from someone.

With tanks, you have to be careful when you activate your modules..because the moment they are deactivated, you have to wait the entire cooldown time to be able to use it again. I would have damage mods activated anytime I needed them to if I pulled out my tank.

Enough bitching about the cloak, I hope you don't listen to the vocal few. The majority of players I speak with feel it's fairly balanced.

I guess in the end CCP probably listens to you as much as us so it's all good.

Funny thing cause the majority of the people that I speak with thinks that the cloak is a joke. Most use it to adapt with the times but are definitely aware of the tweeks that are needed.

Off Topic: IWS, can you confirm that the shotguns haven't been 'tweaked' or 'glitched' in some way when they adjusted the proficiency bonus from RoF to Shield damage? I've only used shotguns a little pre-1.8 but I think there are some differences in its range/rate of fire now. (also I only have SG Op.3 and I notice it seems to be working differently)

Sorry for the off topic, but the two issues seem to be related to me, beyond the ability to fire before decloak issue.

TL:DR for the entire thread at this point. Just gonna throw my two cents in really quick and let the people following this thread track where my money goes.

Decloaking could benefit from an INCREASE for 2 seconds to scan profile as the system destabilizes. This would mean the moment they switch weapons, pretty much everyone except an unskilled player would see the player on the TACNET. I think this might make some science sense and give some "OH CRAP!" warnings that could lead to some interesting gameplay on both ends.

The cloaker would know that they only have a split second as aware people will notice them very quickly. The target will have a moment to try to out twitch the cloaker. The Cloaker still has the advantage, but at a price of very temporarily giving his position away. After the 1 or 2 seconds of showing up on the TACNET, they would become invisible again if they are setup to avoid scans.

I'm having a hard time keeping tabs on my surroundings.

So I should be cloaked with bells on, yes?
To help you watch your flank?

Brings to mind backup cameras on minivans.

It's funny that you're clowning him for not being able to see invisible players as a reflection of his low situational awareness. But yet, you have to use a cloak to flank.

It's funny that you're clowning him for not being able to see invisible players as a reflection of his low situational awareness. But yet, you have to use a cloak to flank.

I don't know about you guys but ever since 1.8 hit I run nothing but complex precision enhancers in my highs on every suit I run now. With two on a suit I see a lot, with three on a suit I see almost everything.

Nothing is better than turning around and killing a cloaked scout who thinks he's sneaking up on you.

I run two comolex damps, goodluck

There doesn't have to be any timers added. There shouldn't be an animation when you decloak or switch to your weapons. Decloaking should be instantaneous so that you don't appear to be still cloaked when you start firing.

If there has to be an animation, then you should only be able to fire AFTER you are fully visible.

Been flanking since the long lost days Chrome, good sir.
Certainly not as well as Demzor or Dominance, but flanking nonetheless.

The invisibility glitch was addressed. Thankfully.
Firing whilst decloaking should be also addressed.
On these points of concern, we all agree.

As for the idea that cloak require its user to announce his arrival ...
Which would altogether defeat the purpose of cloaking ...
Yes, I am laughing at that idea. It is a laughably bad idea.