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xavier zor
Second-Nature
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:05:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:xavier zor wrote:if i wanted to troll my post would look like this xavier zor wrote: wow dreis, really? You are so fu*king dumb, just gtfo of here dude. I thought you'd have half a brain, AT LEAST
When you're a member of a community this isn't "trolling", it's just being a di ck Ever since it became a meme everyone and their mother fancies themselves a "le master trole." It's a little embarassing to be honest
I assume since we are all part of the dust community we are all being dicks then? your reasoning lmao
When i sound salty, i don't mean it :)
Just returned
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VAHZZ
Nos Nothi
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:06:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:VAHZZ wrote:First Prophet wrote:I've yet to see you make a single taco related post. I have countless Taco posts, I even revived Ripper's Taco Shack, i pronounced I was GJR and GJR proved it, i make atleast 3 taco posts a day. You iz blind as bacon. GJR used the power of tacos to cure the blind. This proves you are inadequate in your piety to the taco. Bacon eating scrub.
I do not partake of the foulness of such debauchery. For you to even suggest such a thing is baffling. How dare you hint at any sort of uncleanness within my holy temple. I pronounce the wonders of taco alongside my ownself. A vagabond of pure sultry goodness. I shout high among all the mountaintops. Of the high glory of the Taco. The majestic form, the exquisiteness, the decadence, of all it's majesty. And you dare talk down.
Do you know taco? Do you truly know taco? It's depth, it's breadth, it's width. Thy shall know taco soon enough. Thy shall soon feel it's warmth in thy own bosom. And amongst your nether regions. Do thy commit to thy own self, or do thy commit to taco? So called prophet. Which prophet do you claim?
X|V - I am a Bard
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy No Context
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:08:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:I can help you with maths and I can help you get drunk, Vahzz, but funny is not my department. You'll have to ask Prophet or Jolly. Or Noob. Or Spade. Come to think of it, we've got "funny" pretty much covered; what this bar's missing is a humorous, drunken preacher. Would require cross-training. If you're up to the challenge, learn what you can from the funny guys and I'll keep you supplied with booze; Arkena should be able to teach you the rest. I can teach VAHZZ how to be needy and self-conscious.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
The PLC saved my soul
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VAHZZ
Nos Nothi
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:08:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:xavier zor wrote:if i wanted to troll my post would look like this xavier zor wrote: wow dreis, really? You are so fu*king dumb, just gtfo of here dude. I thought you'd have half a brain, AT LEAST
When you're a member of a community this isn't "trolling", it's just being a di ck Ever since it became a meme everyone and their mother fancies themselves a "le master trole." It's a little embarassing to be honest
Wait, it is a meme?
Dammit...now I can't troll anymore. DAMN YOU TECHNOLOGY!!
X|V - I am a Bard
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:20:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:xavier zor wrote:if i wanted to troll my post would look like this xavier zor wrote: wow dreis, really? You are so fu*king dumb, just gtfo of here dude. I thought you'd have half a brain, AT LEAST
When you're a member of a community this isn't "trolling", it's just being a di ck Ever since it became a meme everyone and their mother fancies themselves a "le master trole." It's a little embarassing to be honest I assume since we are all part of the dust community we are all being di cks then? Yes, but the difference is the rest of us aren't being HUGE dicks. Slight dickery is okay but there's limits.
And by community I assume he meant the barbershop. Not the dust community in general, which is known to be terrible.
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VAHZZ
Nos Nothi
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:32:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:xavier zor wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:xavier zor wrote:if i wanted to troll my post would look like this xavier zor wrote: wow dreis, really? You are so fu*king dumb, just gtfo of here dude. I thought you'd have half a brain, AT LEAST
When you're a member of a community this isn't "trolling", it's just being a di ck Ever since it became a meme everyone and their mother fancies themselves a "le master trole." It's a little embarassing to be honest I assume since we are all part of the dust community we are all being di cks then? Yes, but the difference is the rest of us aren't being HUGE dicks. Slight dickery is okay but there's limits. And by community I assume he meant the barbershop. Not the dust community in general, which is known to be terrible. Terrible is an understatement in regards to the overall DUST community.
I don't think I am capable of being a dik.
X|V - I am a Bard
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:54:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:xavier zor wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:xavier zor wrote:if i wanted to troll my post would look like this xavier zor wrote: wow dreis, really? You are so fu*king dumb, just gtfo of here dude. I thought you'd have half a brain, AT LEAST
When you're a member of a community this isn't "trolling", it's just being a di ck Ever since it became a meme everyone and their mother fancies themselves a "le master trole." It's a little embarassing to be honest I assume since we are all part of the dust community we are all being di cks then? Yes, but the difference is the rest of us aren't being HUGE dicks. Slight dickery is okay but there's limits. And by community I assume he meant the barbershop. Not the dust community in general, which is known to be terrible. This. You can call any group to which you belong a "community" if you like, but by community I mean group of people you know well and talk with
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
1
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Posted - 2015.07.22 08:46:00 -
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The lag is real
When i sound salty, i don't mean it :)
Just returned
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.07.22 09:10:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:The lag is real
It's just virtual though. Is the lag truly reaching new heights?
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Gallente Guide
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
390
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Posted - 2015.07.22 09:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:xavier zor wrote:The lag is real It's just virtual though. Is the lag truly reaching new heights? yeah it is man.. I was at the store buying some milk and dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets as you do and i went to place them on the counter and BLAMM! i was back in a aisle and i spilt my milk ;-;
BUILD MORE FARMS!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Corrosive Synergy No Context
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 09:35:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:xavier zor wrote:The lag is real It's just virtual though. Is the lag truly reaching new heights? yeah it is man.. I was at the store buying some milk and dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets as you do and i went to place them on the counter and BLAMM! i was back in a aisle and i spilt my milk ;-; I can't even begin to tell you how awkward the lag makes going to the bathroom...
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
The PLC saved my soul
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
508
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Posted - 2015.07.22 10:52:00 -
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I don't get it, why some of you are trying so hard to be funny? It shows, and it isn't :P
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Karam Arami
The Knights Of NewEden
50
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Posted - 2015.07.22 11:00:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:The lag is real That is about as funny as getting scalped by Mr musterd
(T-T)¬('~')/ CHECKMATE!!!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.07.22 11:07:00 -
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dzizur wrote:I don't get it, why some of you are trying so hard to be funny? It shows, and it isn't :P
My tryhardiness in game extends to my poor sense of humour.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Gallente Guide
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xavier zor
Second-Nature
1
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Posted - 2015.07.22 11:14:00 -
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Karam Arami wrote:xavier zor wrote:The lag is real That is about as funny as getting scalped by Mr musterd
wasnt a joke, i am lagging every 5th match. Its mr musturd ffs...
Just got a 73 metre PLC kill while running melee min scout, even meleed an ak.0 to death wielding a darths lol!
When i sound salty, i don't mean it :)
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game
8
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:34:00 -
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played PC the other day, two of them in ADV gear the other teams were so bad. Last one we deployed with four scouts for a good ten minutes before bringing in the rest of the team. (We won all three)
"Sinboto Simmons. His voice is like Barry White and a bass guitar married and had a baby."-Reign Omega
Minja for life.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:43:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Llast 326 wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:After playing some more planet side, I really do wish dust could take alil more from it. Just unlocked an underbarrel attachment for my sidearm that is a 'darklight' flash light. The thing iluminates invisible infiltrators. Xd Finally got around to installing that. Have not played yet, maybe later in the week. Myself, noob, bamhammock, shley, stef, eddierio, gtorq, couple others playing over on: Ceres server for NC faction if Ya ever wanna jump in. Does PS2 crossover with PS4 and PC users? Coz I couldn't find Lightning's thingy the other day We are separated.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:44:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Llast 326 wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:After playing some more planet side, I really do wish dust could take alil more from it. Just unlocked an underbarrel attachment for my sidearm that is a 'darklight' flash light. The thing iluminates invisible infiltrators. Xd Finally got around to installing that. Have not played yet, maybe later in the week. Myself, noob, bamhammock, shley, stef, eddierio, gtorq, couple others playing over on: Ceres server for NC faction if Ya ever wanna jump in. Does PS2 crossover with PS4 and PC users? Coz I couldn't find Lightning's thingy the other day Nah, it is seperated. NA and EU is also seperated. I have 2 planetside clients, the NA one and the EU one. Only way to play with the dudes across the pond really.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:46:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:played PC the other day, two of them in ADV gear the other teams were so bad. Last one we deployed with four scouts for a good ten minutes before bringing in the rest of the team. (We won all three) I don't understand. Are these "make work" matches between friendly corps? Who is DMG at war with? Who are you allied with?
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Sinboto Simmons
Dead Man's Game
8
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:51:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:played PC the other day, two of them in ADV gear the other teams were so bad. Last one we deployed with four scouts for a good ten minutes before bringing in the rest of the team. (We won all three) I don't understand. Are these "make work" matches between friendly corps? Who is DMG at war with? Who are you allied with? One was a real fight, two were new corps 'testing the waters' as it were. (I think we were one group's first PC ever)
"Sinboto Simmons. His voice is like Barry White and a bass guitar married and had a baby."-Reign Omega
Minja for life.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 13:27:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:played PC the other day, two of them in ADV gear the other teams were so bad. Last one we deployed with four scouts for a good ten minutes before bringing in the rest of the team. (We won all three) I don't understand. Are these "make work" matches between friendly corps? Who is DMG at war with? Who are you allied with? One was a real fight, two were new corps 'testing the waters' as it were. (I think we were one group's first PC ever) Yeah, PC 2.0 is in an awkward state at the moment.
The new corps "testing the waters" are earning CP as their troops complete daily missions. If they don't use their CP, they lose it. So they attack and get their poop pushed it by corps on the opposite end of the competitive spectrum. All things held constant, I can't imagine that this morale-sapping model will encourage/sustain participation by new corps. Outside of Jadek's strange operation, I don't think that tee-ball players actually enjoy getting roflstomped by the pros.
That said, Ghost's complaints the other day show promise; it isn't just the new guys who aren't happy with the state of things. The pros (at least some of them) are getting frustrated. Established corps are seldom embroiled in actual conflict (too much effort), but their troops still want good fights and definitely don't enjoy wasting their time. All things held constant, the pros will tire of showing up everyday for next to no reason at all.
This is why we need actual Raid Mechanics. Give the new guys a shot at catching the pros off-guard or spread thin. The fights which ensue will be more enjoyable for all. Especially us.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 14:47:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote: That said, Ghost's complaints the other day suggest that it isn't just the new guys who aren't happy with the state of things. The pros (at least some of them) are getting frustrated. Players like Ghost want good fights and definitely don't enjoy wasting their time. All things held constant, the pros may eventually tire of showing up everyday to defend their farmlands if it isn't any fun to do so.
You left out a part of it. Farmland basically doesn't exist anymore. The only corp I know of that even SOMEWHAT qualifies is Capital Acquisitions. They have 2 planets full of districts, aren't attacking anyone, not selling clones, and not even fighting their own battles (OH fields them all for some freaking reason). I talked to several people from corp (Who are a bit more up to speed on the state of PC than me), and they said farm land just isn't viable anymore. THIS IS A GOOD THING.
In order to make ISK, you have to own land, and sell the clones. This doesn't lock the district, and leaves you more vulnerable.
You can't lock districts by packs and farm the ISK from clone genolution now. It doesn't work since they removed getting ISK from clones destroyed (Now done by assests).
Now, how do you make ISK in PC now? The more pessimistic would say "You can't" but they're not entirely wrong. If you want to make ISK in PC, you need the following.
1.) A team good enough to defend districts regularly without max clones.
2.) A team good enough to win fights and get ISK through fighting.
3.) A team good enough to discourage pointless attacks that lock your clones.
Then, you have to just sell off batches of 120 clones whenever you get them. You don't just drain districts and lock them until they fill up again. There has to be balance.
You can't sell off too many, as you leave yourself open to an assault. If you sell off too few, you don't get ISK.
As far as I'm aware, this is whats making farm-land not viable. The best way to make ISK to control just enough land that your corp can handle, and skim ISK off the top of your clone count. Which is what FA is trying to do right now. Get districts and start selling off batches of 120 to get paychecks out to our players.
Lord knows I need it. I'm sitting on 3 Mil ISK because I blew it all on skins
In short, its a LOT harder to make ISK in PC now. It's still more lucrative than pubs and FW, but we're slowly inching towards the point where its no longer worth the hassle.
No risk raid spam is certainly not helping that "hassle" part. So long as most of the non-PC community keep living in the "Farmland" past, they will keep screaming to make PC less lucrative.
For crying out loud, check Dustcharts. As of 15:00 EVE, we have 19 locked districts out of 245, and a pretty decently spread out timer list (READ: Easy to launch attacks at any time of day. They used to all be early morning or midday, when almost nobody could field). If you ever want to see how much farming is being done, check how often districts are locked. If there is over 20% lock consistently, it means that farming is viable. We're only at 7% lock districts right now.
Side rant: Heck, there's over 25 districts right now that are OPEN and UNDER 150 CLONES. Seriously, if you want to get into PC, its so freaking easy. You might have to fight Latino lag, but you can still find fights and get in.
If you want to get into PC, USE DUST CHARTS. It's not that hard.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:08:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:xavier zor wrote:The lag is real It's just virtual though. Is the lag truly reaching new heights? yeah it is man.. I was at the store buying some milk and dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets as you do and i went to place them on the counter and BLAMM! i was back in a aisle and i spilt my milk ;-;
You know, humans naturally have ~180 Microseconds of lag in their eyes. Ears are actually better for some reason, easily reaching 140 msec lag.
100 msec = 1 millisecond.
Lag is in fact real.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:10:00 -
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By "farmland" I'm not strictly referring to district locking. I'm referring to what has been in the past the at-rest state of PC. Long periods of (highly profitable) peace punctuated by the occasional conflict. If it makes the most fiscal sense for landowners to blue up or declare cease fire, farming in peace will become their at-rest state. Should a warmongering corp rock the boat or refuse to play ball, push them out and keep them out of farmland.
Everyone wants a paycheck, and everyone gets a bigger paycheck during peace time. If competitive corps are better off not fighting one another, why should they?
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
25
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:14:00 -
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TIL firing a gigantic orbital nuclear death cannon at someone's planet, killing 688 million people and rendering it uninhabitable, is not considered diplomatically offensive by some people.
Gotta love RTS diplomacy.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Gallente Guide
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Karam Arami
The Knights Of NewEden
52
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:18:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Karam Arami wrote:xavier zor wrote:The lag is real That is about as funny as getting scalped by Mr musterd wasnt a joke, i am lagging every 5th match. Its mr musturd ffs... Just got a 73 metre PLC kill while running melee min scout, even meleed an ak.0 to death wielding a darths lol! Thanks for the correction. I've done waaaay better with plcs. Once in a galmando I made a 150 meter kill on a thales sniper he pegged me once in the back, I turned over, looked up, and *thunk* direct hit on a cal scout. Romulus Hex gives me his props every time I go against him.
(T-T)¬('~')/ CHECKMATE!!!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:21:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:By "farmland" I'm not strictly referring to district locking. I'm referring to what has been in the past the at-rest state of PC. Long periods of (highly profitable) peace punctuated by the occasional conflict. If it makes the most fiscal sense for landowners to blue up or declare cease fire, farming in peace will become their at-rest state. Should a warmongering corp rock the boat or refuse to play ball, push them out and keep them out of farmland.
Everyone wants a paycheck, and everyone gets a bigger paycheck during peace time. If competitive corps are better off not fighting one another, why should they?
I understand what you're getting at, however....
PC is not "HIGHLY PROFITABLE" anymore. I used to get 30 Mil Paychecks every week. That was broken (Granted, I was fighting ~10-12 PC's a week).
I'm not saying that raiding in itself is a bad mechanic. It's an excellent way to check things from getting too peaceful in PC.
However, my problem with it right now is that you DON'T EVEN HAVE TO FIGHT. You can just launch attacks for free and never show up, wasting our time. Or show up in crap gear and make us play Ambush OMS with worse payouts.
As I said earlier, Raiding isn't a bad mechanic, but it needs a more elegant solution. Right now, its an unfun check to stagnant PC. The check is working, but they need to fix the unfun part. ISK for successful defenses and encouragement to keep raiding.
If you can make it a win-win for both sides, THAT is desirable. Non-PC corps (or corps wanting to join in) have the ability to launch attacks and check PC stagnation. If you make it ISK profitable for them to attack, they will KEEP DOING SO. Capitalism.
Making defending those districts and attacks ISK profitable reduces the monotony on the defender as well. Then, we have more reason to show up and defend. Right now, it feels monotonous. "We're only going to defend because if we don't they can take the district". That's literally what it feels like going into a raid. No excitement for a fight, literally going through the motions. Making defending ISK profitable gives another dimension to it. "I'm going to defend our district, and get paid doing so."
Oh hey, look. Suddenly I'm a mercenary. Nobody likes fighting a fight that isn't challenging and unrewarding. That is what needs to change with raiding.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TIL firing a gigantic orbital nuclear death cannon at someone's planet, killing 688 million people and rendering it uninhabitable, is not considered diplomatically offensive by some people.
Gotta love RTS diplomacy.
What game?
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Un-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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VAHZZ
Nos Nothi
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TIL firing a gigantic orbital nuclear death cannon at someone's planet, killing 688 million people and rendering it uninhabitable, is not considered diplomatically offensive by some people.
Gotta love RTS diplomacy. You make me want to see a planet get glassed.
X|V - I am a Bard
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
11
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:32:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Nobody likes fighting a fight that isn't challenging and unrewarding. But everyone likes getting paid. If end-game participants were more interested in challenging fights than making Isk, then there wouldn't be blue donuts, cease fires, or otherwise stagnant play. War would be a constant.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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