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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:32:00 -
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Cloaks are so lulzy now I'm not sure I'd even use it for fire-from-cloak.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:38:00 -
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In other news Dreis has been promoted from 'argument for eugenics' to 'strange silent guy'
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:'argument for eugenics' In your strange mind that's what I thought the Irish would've been.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:45:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:'argument for eugenics' In your strange mind that's what I thought the Irish would've been.
Yeah but we had a go in 1845.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Why does the Active Scanner not have the same Switch delay as the Cloak? Why does the cloak have the switch delay? Nothing worse than accidentally selecting the cloak and trying to swap to what you wanted while everything drags to a crawl. I wish they had implemented the delay in a better way. It just feel so damn clunky. So you can't instajump out of cloak and splat people with a shotgun, as was rampant in 1.8. It wouldn't be as bad now, though, IMHO, since all the nerfs.
You missed the point. I'm saying their implementation of a cloak delay is HORRIBLE. If there is a cloak delay / effect it should be when changing FROM cloaked to non-cloaked. Not changing from the cloak equipment regardless of if you were cloaked.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2015.07.05 19:48:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Why does the Active Scanner not have the same Switch delay as the Cloak? Why does the cloak have the switch delay? Nothing worse than accidentally selecting the cloak and trying to swap to what you wanted while everything drags to a crawl. I wish they had implemented the delay in a better way. It just feel so damn clunky. So you can't instajump out of cloak and splat people with a shotgun, as was rampant in 1.8. It wouldn't be as bad now, though, IMHO, since all the nerfs. Think there's a number on that delay. Could probably reduce it by half and not recreate issues with fire-from-cloak.
I agree. It just feels so wrong, argue for a balance issue all you want the mechanics of how it works is clunky and annoying. I wish it had been done another way.
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.07.05 20:01:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Spademan wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:'argument for eugenics' In your strange mind that's what I thought the Irish would've been. Yeah but we had a go in 1845. And we still haven't recovered the population.... *plays violin sadly*
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 21:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:In other news Dreis has been promoted from 'argument for eugenics' to 'strange silent guy'
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 21:52:00 -
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Oh, by the way, I think I've decided on which A-Levels I want to take this September. I think I'm gonna go with History, Government & Politics, English Language and BTEC Level 3 Applied Law.
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.07.05 21:54:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Oh, by the way, I think I've decided on which A-Levels I want to take this September. I think I'm gonna go with History, Government & Politics, English Language and BTEC Level 3 Applied Law. Those are all things I applied for in my CAO.
*Cuts foot on the floor covered in my broken dreams*
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:14:00 -
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Ah, all the worst subjects then.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:15:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ah, all the worst subjects then. At least I didn't pick Sociology.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:17:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Oh, by the way, I think I've decided on which A-Levels I want to take this September. I think I'm gonna go with History, Government & Politics, English Language and BTEC Level 3 Applied Law. Those are all things I applied for in my CAO. *Cuts foot on the floor covered in my broken dreams* What's a CAO?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:17:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ah, all the worst subjects then. At least I didn't pick Sociology.
This is true, although I suppose it's because you don't want to do 5 rather than because you dislike the subject.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ah, all the worst subjects then. At least I didn't pick Sociology. This is true, although I suppose it's because you don't want to do 5 rather than because you dislike the subject. The College I'll be studying at only offers four A-Levels at a time. Normally, you'll drop one subject after one year and claim your AS in it, then carry on with the others to full A-Level. Some bright sparks are permitted to carry all four on to A-Level though.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:23:00 -
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It's probably some Irish thing, Dreis, don't worry about it.
Even if you're not doing proper subjects, at least it's part of a proper education system. +1
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:29:00 -
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It's typical to only be allowed to do 4 -> 3 A levels but that doesn't mean you can't self-study an extra one and ask to take the exam.
If you talk to the administration I imagine they'd be more than happy to let you sit an exam. Basically all it costs them is a slight admin fee which is probably negligible next to your overall school fees and then you basically just sit the exam at the same time as the people who studied it at the college.
Admittedly it probably works better with maths because if you get going with maths you can pretty much complete the non-core modules in a weekend or two. Still, it was very easy to get registered for a couple of extra exams though where I was. If you actually are interested in sociology it could be worth looking at.
I joke about you not taking proper subjects but those do actually work reasonably well with each other and if you have a similar set of subjects (as opposed to something like maths, drama, biology, geography or something) it's easier to deal with an increased workload because doing work on one subject can help you with the others. I'm sure history will give you a lot of insight into how some political systems developed, for example.
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2015.07.05 22:55:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Arkena, do you, per chance, have a degree in math? You're using group theory for part of this... Also, as a note, algebra is not what is necessarily contained here... abstract, albeit, so the "real" algebra, but you need more robust calculations than simple x + y to describe matchmaking mathematically. I would say the calculations are correct, but I am not sure on your foundation here... sorry, I am just having a hard time reading through it all. Specifically, the proof section, I don't think, is needed, as it can be assumed that all sets in the group would fit under basic group theory logic. I would say you would need two things too argue the points successfully: Statistical analysis on average squad size Statistical analysis on average sync size vs racial factions From the above, you can then do a group calculation looking for specific sizing parameters of group vs squads going in, and statistical probability of said groups making. I think, as proposed in Adipem's linked conversation, this can be boiled down into easy "lego sized" blocks, with simple groups of 4, 8, 12, and 16 member deploy allowed for FW only... this will give the highest statistical probability of matchmaking as all outcomes lead to a full match, with each block pushing to the whole group. I will spend more time looking over your math, as it just seems... clunky... to me, but it has been a little bit (say, 7 years), since I had to analyze something similar to this. Most of the math in my current field is rather straight forward, in comparison. ETA: will also need coffee... lots of coffee for this. On a side note, if you are/were a math major, is it just my experience, or did everyone going for that degree with you, smoke heavily? After a while, I was able to identify what science field someone was going into merely by how they acted... or in the case of a math student, how much they smoked vs how much they actually wrote stuff.
A couple things, Demens:
- I've made the document unavailable, as the proof and potentially the statement was incorrect; this counting problem is relatively difficult. I apologize for pushing something public that wasn't correct. - I found a paper today by a graduate or undergraduate pair of students with an analysis that I haven't yet checked. https://www.rose-hulman.edu/mathjournal/archives/2008/vol9-n2/paper5/v9n2-5pd.pdf ; it would need to be ever so slightly modified for some of our test cases due to the restriction of squad sizes to 16, which changes the generating functions. It answers the question from the original paper with the group sizes that we're interested in (11+ people queuing in one group waiting for everyone else) - The conclusion was never one which was intended to answer anything in particular about the reality of the matchmaking situation. It was really meant to show that trying to draw rigorous mathematical conclusions on the basis of a single observation or intuition is totally irresponsible and incorrect. Since Adipem and Deezy in that thread were suggesting that based on a single observation a mathematical conclusion followed, I wanted to provide an analysis broadcasting that their intuition was probably not right in the first place, and that it would be somewhat complicated to figure out anyways.
Since I've removed the document, here's the gist of the problem:
Say you have 1 <= n < 16 people who are queued for a FW match, let y = 16-n, and say that there are m >= y OTHER people who are also queued on the same side as the first n. Out of the number of ways that the m other people can be in squads, what proportion of those ways is such that the match maker can find y people to match with the n people in the squad and start a match?
Proving that this proportion is over 60-80% for most reasonable values of n and m doesn't really tell you much about how matchmaking works, but it does tell you that noticing that "some of the combinations DON'T work" isn't a rigorously useful observation.
If you had an extremely simplified model of the matchmaking situation in FW where we assumed that every single different partition of m is equally likely (the uniform distribution), then if we estimated m for any given point in time, we could draw a conclusion about the percentage of the time that a team of size n would be able to go into a match. This seems to be something of what Adipem and Deezy were originally implying in their discussions. It's absurd to assume that the probability distribution is uniform, however, and if I had to hazard a guess I'd say that partitions involving teams of mostly small size (2-6) are much more likely in practice than those with larger sizes. We don't have that information either way, and it's crucial to a legitimate analysis of the reality.
To answer the question you posed to Arkena: Yes, I just finished my math degree here in the States and I'm headed to Oxford for a 1 year MSc in a Math+CS course. I haven't ever smoked anything, but what better time than now to look into a couple Cuban cigars?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:01:00 -
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^ Big text wall is scary me no likey
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:10:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:^ Big text wall is scary me no likey
That's because he's a mathematician (someone who did real subjects) and you're not.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:18:00 -
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Fun fact - the combinatorics paper Leither linked has title initials 'CCP'.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fun fact - the combinatorics paper Leither linked has title initials 'CCP'. Nerd
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Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:27:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fun fact - the combinatorics paper Leither linked has title initials 'CCP'. Nerd
Surely even non-mathematicians can recognise initials?
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fun fact - the combinatorics paper Leither linked has title initials 'CCP'. Nerd Surely even non-mathematicians can recognise initials? Surely mathematicians have a sense of humour
Do you need someone to press your jammies?
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:43:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Even if you're not doing proper subjects, at least it's part of a proper education system. +1
I suppose so.
Wait, what's that? Irish education is better?
Game, set and check ******* mate.
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:44:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Oh, by the way, I think I've decided on which A-Levels I want to take this September. I think I'm gonna go with History, Government & Politics, English Language and BTEC Level 3 Applied Law. Those are all things I applied for in my CAO. *Cuts foot on the floor covered in my broken dreams* What's a CAO?
Short version: It's the form we use to apply for college courses.
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Fristname Family name
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fun fact - the combinatorics paper Leither linked has title initials 'CCP'. Nerd Surely even non-mathematicians can recognise initials? how many people know CCP is Crowd Control Productions? isn't it ironic that we have such a massive crowd here in Dust XD
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Fristname Family name
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:57:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I see you left OH Dreis. Did my attempts to convince Sari to kick you work, or did you just leave? Sari? Zaria said that her opinion wouldn't be influenced by FA members. I left of my own accord. In other words you were kicked on in the ass onto the street with nothing but the fittings on your back. They realized how scrub you were Dry Ice... We all did....
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Fristname Family name
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Posted - 2015.07.05 23:59:00 -
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Here in crazy land it's called University or Uni for short :D
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.06 00:02:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Oh, by the way, I think I've decided on which A-Levels I want to take this September. I think I'm gonna go with History, Government & Politics, English Language and BTEC Level 3 Applied Law. Those are all things I applied for in my CAO. *Cuts foot on the floor covered in my broken dreams* What's a CAO? Short version: It's the form we use to apply for college courses. Is a CAO equivalent to a GCSE?
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