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Pseudogenesis wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

@ Iggy

Wouldn't get your hopes up on PS2. It has its positives, such as a great game for snipers, but where Dust frustrates with things that are ultimately fixable in one form or fashion, PS2 bores by design.

I can look at Dust and feel like its potential isn't far off, and that if/when it moves to a different system after we essentially work out the balances and concepts here, it can be really great.

PS2 feels bogged down by its nature. Its hard to feel connection to a faction when you have 3 factions and 3 characters and can switch between them at will depending on which faction dominates at the time. Its worse than FW where at least there is LP gear unique enough and some minor penalty for opposing factions.

Not to mention that if you think asymmetrical matches are bad in Dust just wait until the never ending 30 vs 5 battles.

PS2 is good for casual fun to kill time, but it lacks substance.

This is how I feel about PS2 as well. It's pretty and flashy, but there doesn't seem to be much there underneath the surface level. If PS2 was the prom queen then Dust would probably be the dorky girl who hangs out in the library too much

"The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."

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Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.08 17:30:00 - [37291] - Quote Spademan wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: New Activity: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap https://trello.com/c/BcA27Uba/47-fireteams-4-squads-8-platoons-16 About damn time! Although personally I'm more intrigued by this: https://trello.com/c/EA72B21C/67-epic-progression More progression is always a good thing. I'm hitting some serious diminishing returns with my skillpoint investment at this point. "Pirate" faction suits confirmed. Don't get my hopes up Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.08 17:47:00 - [37292] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: It would take a gargantuan marketing effort (and a healthy dose of miracles) to grow the playerbase at this point. Actually, there's an idea. How about an actual marketing campaign of some sort? Like any kind of marketing whatsoever. When was the last time you saw an ad for this thing? What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.08 18:18:00 - [37293] - Quote A Pack of Porcupine Critters! http://i.imgur.com/qYVD4ds.jpg ^ These and other indigenous creatures and free-roaming automatons spawn randomly and are tailored in difficulty to a given map's Security Status. PvE atop PvP! Ah! Security Status. If you guys recall the anomaly event, mercs were permitted to select and join matches of their choosing. Keeping that system in mind, imagine if each of the available battles displayed including a "Security Status". This numeric value does a few things ... * Determines gear restrictions for the match * Determines per-kill pay (Isk bounties) and contract pay rates EOM * Determines rare drop frequency in salvage * Determines the difficulty of hostile AI (see above) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.08 18:49:00 - [37294] - Quote Spademan wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: It would take a gargantuan marketing effort (and a healthy dose of miracles) to grow the playerbase at this point. Actually, there's an idea. How about an actual marketing campaign of some sort? Like any kind of marketing whatsoever. When was the last time you saw an ad for this thing? They DID market Dust, at least a little. Nothing especially extensive mind you, but it's better than nothing. I remember seeing the trailer playing on television displays at my local Fry's electronics store when I went to buy the parts for my PC (although by that time I was already playing Dust so all I got out of it was a chuckle) Anyways, marketing for it now would pretty much be just throwing money away. When was the last time you saw a marketing campaign for a 3+ year old console game (that isn't an MMO)? Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.08 19:03:00 - [37295] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Anyways, marketing for it now would pretty much be just throwing money away. When was the last time you saw a marketing campaign for a 3+ year old console game (that isn't an MMO)? Final Fantasy X quite recently. If remasters count of course. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.08 19:07:00 - [37296] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Spademan wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: It would take a gargantuan marketing effort (and a healthy dose of miracles) to grow the playerbase at this point. Actually, there's an idea. How about an actual marketing campaign of some sort? Like any kind of marketing whatsoever. When was the last time you saw an ad for this thing? They DID market Dust, at least a little. Nothing especially extensive mind you, but it's better than nothing. I remember seeing the trailer playing on television displays at my local Fry's electronics store when I went to buy the parts for my PC (although by that time I was already playing Dust so all I got out of it was a chuckle) Anyways, marketing for it now would pretty much be just throwing money away. When was the last time you saw a marketing campaign for a 3+ year old console game (that isn't an MMO)? Here ya go. Close as you'll get Notice the upload dates. Can't keep the yt page updated. That seems like it'd be one of the easier things to do. New playlist coming out (acquisition) pop a vid up going over the thing, showing it off a little or something so and so event happening vid goes up ect. god forbid a livestream lol XD Just a personal opinion but I do think their YouTube page is underutilized. 2k subs on the dust channel last upload 1year XD TheYoutube XD
Nightfury Wyrnspire Seituoda Taskforce Command 27	Posted - 2015.06.08 19:21:00 - [37297] - Quote Speaking as someone of ludicrous DUST nerdiness who got voluntarily banned to attempt to break the forum addiction (but failed)... DUST has a youtube channel?
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.08 20:13:00 - [37298] - Quote Spademan wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Anyways, marketing for it now would pretty much be just throwing money away. When was the last time you saw a marketing campaign for a 3+ year old console game (that isn't an MMO)? Final Fantasy X quite recently. If remasters count of course. I don't think they do it's a whole new game, after all. Now I'm hoping that they'll announce Dust HD on the PC J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Here ya go. Close as you'll get Notice the upload dates. Touche Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.08 20:46:00 - [37299] - Quote @ Iggy Wouldn't get your hopes up on PS2. It has its positives, such as a great game for snipers, but where Dust frustrates with things that are ultimately fixable in one form or fashion, PS2 bores by design. I can look at Dust and feel like its potential isn't far off, and that if/when it moves to a different system after we essentially work out the balances and concepts here, it can be really great. PS2 feels bogged down by its nature. Its hard to feel connection to a faction when you have 3 factions and 3 characters and can switch between them at will depending on which faction dominates at the time. Its worse than FW where at least there is LP gear unique enough and some minor penalty for opposing factions. Not to mention that if you think asymmetrical matches are bad in Dust just wait until the never ending 30 vs 5 battles. PS2 is good for casual fun to kill time, but it lacks substance. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.08 20:49:00 - [37300] - Quote I also agree that marketing Dust as is is a waste of resources. My hope is that they use the PS3 version to balance and solidify concepts like FW and PC before moving on to another system where a polished, quality product can be promoted more effectively. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:09:00 - [37301] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I also agree that marketing Dust as is is a waste of resources. My hope is that they use the PS3 version to balance and solidify concepts like FW and PC before moving on to another system where a polished, quality product can be promoted more effectively. My feelings exactly. I'd buy a PS4 (or PC) if Dust were migrated to it as is, but I'd love to see it reach its fullest potential first. I'm plenty content to continue playing Dust on the PS3. Also, wouldn't rule out the possibility of Sony making PSN content designed for the PS3 playable on the PS4 (emulator?). Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:24:00 - [37302] - Quote I remember that when I was a wee nooblet, Shotty used to be very intimidating in Scouts United... inb4 'you're still a nooblet' Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Nightfury Wyrnspire Seituoda Taskforce Command 29	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:36:00 - [37303] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I remember that when I was a wee nooblet, Shotty used to be very intimidating in Scouts United... inb4 'you're still a nooblet' Nah, you've graduated from nooblet to pleb.
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:40:00 - [37304] - Quote Nightfury Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I remember that when I was a wee nooblet, Shotty used to be very intimidating in Scouts United... inb4 'you're still a nooblet' Nah, you've graduated from nooblet to pleb. What would you know notark? You only have 30-ish likes. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:41:00 - [37305] - Quote I'm never going to try to initiate a Knife duel ever again. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:44:00 - [37306] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: @ Iggy Wouldn't get your hopes up on PS2. It has its positives, such as a great game for snipers, but where Dust frustrates with things that are ultimately fixable in one form or fashion, PS2 bores by design. I can look at Dust and feel like its potential isn't far off, and that if/when it moves to a different system after we essentially work out the balances and concepts here, it can be really great. PS2 feels bogged down by its nature. Its hard to feel connection to a faction when you have 3 factions and 3 characters and can switch between them at will depending on which faction dominates at the time. Its worse than FW where at least there is LP gear unique enough and some minor penalty for opposing factions. Not to mention that if you think asymmetrical matches are bad in Dust just wait until the never ending 30 vs 5 battles. PS2 is good for casual fun to kill time, but it lacks substance. This is how I feel about PS2 as well. It's pretty and flashy, but there doesn't seem to be much there underneath the surface level. If PS2 was the prom queen then Dust would probably be the dorky girl who hangs out in the library too much Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Nightfury Wyrnspire Seituoda Taskforce Command 29	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:44:00 - [37307] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I'm never going to try to initiate a Knife duel ever again. mows down with rail rifle
Nightfury Wyrnspire Seituoda Taskforce Command 29	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:46:00 - [37308] - Quote Spademan wrote: Nightfury Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I remember that when I was a wee nooblet, Shotty used to be very intimidating in Scouts United... inb4 'you're still a nooblet' Nah, you've graduated from nooblet to pleb. What would you know notark? You only have 30-ish likes. B-b-but my KDR is higher than yours, and KDR is everything. (Whee KDR of 22).
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.08 22:15:00 - [37309] - Quote Nightfury Wyrnspire wrote: Spademan wrote: Nightfury Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I remember that when I was a wee nooblet, Shotty used to be very intimidating in Scouts United... inb4 'you're still a nooblet' Nah, you've graduated from nooblet to pleb. What would you know notark? You only have 30-ish likes. B-b-but my KDR is higher than yours, and KDR is everything. (Whee KDR of 22). Everything to a pleb maybe. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
sir RAVEN WING 3	Posted - 2015.06.08 22:39:00 - [37310] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: D4GG3R wrote: I like stuff Interesting... I am fond of things Interesting indeed. "He loved the game so as he gave his most famed co worker, Rattati unto New Eden. All praise lord Frame." - Shanghai 1:4

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.08 22:49:00 - [37311] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I also agree that marketing Dust as is is a waste of resources. My hope is that they use the PS3 version to balance and solidify concepts like FW and PC before moving on to another system where a polished, quality product can be promoted more effectively. My feelings exactly. I'd buy a PS4 (or PC) if Dust were migrated to it as is, but I'd love to see it reach its fullest potential first. I'm plenty content to continue playing Dust on the PS3. Also, wouldn't rule out the possibility of Sony making PSN content and titles designed for the PS3 playable on the PS4 (via emulator?). Why would they let that much content go to waste when they could otherwise monetize it? But essentially they already are. PS Now is a subscription streaming service and I think it allows them to retain the use of games more than perhaps downloading does. At the very least any other options on the PS4 regarding older games will likely compete with that service. That is why I keep my PS3. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.08 23:08:00 - [37312] - Quote Tell me the story of your worst rage. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.08 23:13:00 - [37313] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Tell me the story of your worst rage. One time I stopped having fun. So I turned it off and read a book. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.09 01:50:00 - [37314] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Tell me the story of your worst rage. VERY early in my Dust Career. That time when I was maining Min Scout back in the Tac AR days and couldn't even run Proto. Got really mad. Threw my controller. Then said to myself "That was F!Y%_ing stupid", picked up said controller and sat back down. Never threw my controller again. However, that was anger, not rage. I RAGED at FA once in a PC. With good reason. Playing OH way back when. Huge fight over point, we push them out and I run in to hack. I yell "COVER ME" to the three heavies near me. Lo and behold, No Neck ran right through and shotgunned me in the back. I WAS FCKING LIVID. After a few seconds, I wisened up and just shut up and decided to yell after the match. We won, but I spent a good 2 minutes chewing out those heavies, who had NO EXCUSE for letting him through. It was Bravo point in three point city (RE deathtrap point). They should have put one on each entrance on one right on my back. They didn't, and we got delayed on the hack point and lost a clone. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.09 01:52:00 - [37315] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I'm never going to try to initiate a Knife duel ever again. This is why knife fights are boring 90% of the time. Whoever initiates has a huge disadvantage. Just dance around until they botch the range, knife them during the lull after they miss. If I see another knifer, I actually run with knives out after slashing a bit. They normally chase. I stab them as they turn a corner. Unrelated: Look what I found Not as weird, but an awesome mashup. Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.09 02:19:00 - [37316] - Quote With all the talk of sequels, it seems one more has been announced. The sequel to Garden Warfare. Its tagline is, "Get ready to soil your plants." I greatly look forward to it. More so than PS2 release, by far. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.09 02:46:00 - [37317] - Quote PS. Shotty, what are you going to do about Fallout 4 not coming out on the PS3? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.09 02:54:00 - [37318] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: One Eyed King wrote: @ Iggy Wouldn't get your hopes up on PS2. It has its positives, such as a great game for snipers, but where Dust frustrates with things that are ultimately fixable in one form or fashion, PS2 bores by design. I can look at Dust and feel like its potential isn't far off, and that if/when it moves to a different system after we essentially work out the balances and concepts here, it can be really great. PS2 feels bogged down by its nature. Its hard to feel connection to a faction when you have 3 factions and 3 characters and can switch between them at will depending on which faction dominates at the time. Its worse than FW where at least there is LP gear unique enough and some minor penalty for opposing factions. Not to mention that if you think asymmetrical matches are bad in Dust just wait until the never ending 30 vs 5 battles. PS2 is good for casual fun to kill time, but it lacks substance. This is how I feel about PS2 as well. It's pretty and flashy, but there doesn't seem to be much there underneath the surface level. If PS2 was the prom queen then Dust would probably be the dorky girl who hangs out in the library too much So you're saying I don't have a shot with either one? "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 527	Posted - 2015.06.09 03:30:00 - [37319] - Quote I, Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p, have just officially quit Dust. It has been a hell of a ride, and I have to say that you guys were always awesome to help back me up, and I really appreciate it. o/ to all, esp. Ghost Kaisar. You guys made this game fun for me, but GK you were one of my favorite people to play with. However, I have now just graduated high school, finished my last sports game probably ever, and have come to the realization that my childhood is officially over. I have a girlfriend, two jobs, and working out to keep me busy. As much as I love video games, I think its time for me to stop playing this one. You will all be missed, as will the late night extended arguments over scout balancing and the likes To the community in general, whoever reads this post, you have all been the most hilariously fun people to troll, and have brought me many great laughs. <3 all of you. This game has composed close to a majority of the later part of my childhood, and captivated my imagination for close to two years. I have gone from an irrelevant scrub to one of the best PC slayers playing. Its shown me that I really can achieve what I want if I make the investment of my time and self, and I really value it. To Shotty, you were the one player who motivated me more than anyone else, as you were the one who made me rage enough to start shotgunning, and become a good player. Thank you, and keep being a scout. My last request is that you put me on the official registry, which is what I have wanted since I first visited this forum, many moons ago. Wether you do it or not is up to you. I won't be back, and will never know what happened, so if you don't want to, it doesn't matter. To the slayers, keep slaying. To the logi's, keep being bros. To the PC community, keep creating drama. You keep this game alive, not CCP. To the QQers, keep QQing. To the Amarr, keep being OP. To the mexicans, keep lagging. To Rattati, keep staying motivated. You are the type of person or people who we need to see more of in the world. The amount of effort you put in to trying to pump water out of a ship that has already sunken under water has been inspiring to me personally, and I thank you for that. To the rest of CCP, keep trying to find whatever it is you're searching for with your heads up your asses. To all of the Barbershop OG's, I want to thank you for the rough but warm welcome into the family. I have never felt more proud to be included into an online group before. o7 to all, its been one hell of a ride. BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.09 03:57:00 - [37320] - Quote Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world. o7 "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."



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