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Adipem Nothi wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

Pseudogenesis wrote:

Long live the king Cool

Easy to fix (King HP)!

Max Survivability = High HP + High Mobility

Enforce a tradeoff between survivability factors with specific focus on Armor, as high slot diversity has been achieved with Myofibs, Precision, and Damage Amps all competing with Shields. Assuming Rattati's mass:movement model is currently off-the-table, two ideas:

Idea 1: Quick Fix
1) Increase strafe and mobility drawbacks for Reactive and Vanilla Plates
2) Add slight strafe and mobility drawbacks to Ferroscale Plates

Idea 2: Thorough Fix
Adjust suit base movement speeds to correspond inversely with max HP:

Current Max HP: Heavy > Assault > Commando > Logi > Scout
Current Movement: Heavy < Commando < Logi < Assault < Scout

Proposed Max HP: Heavy > Commando > Assault > Logi > Scout
Proposed Movement: Heavy < Commando < Assault < Logi < Scout

1) Swap Assault and Logi base movement speeds
2) Reduce post-swap MN Logi base movement from 5.30 to 5.20
3) Add a low-slot to all Commandos (all races, all tiers)

Sorry for the confusion.

My face was more for the liberal use of the term king, but since it is also the same face I make when regarding HP I probably should have been more clear.

Figured "long live the king" had something to do with 9/10 of the most popular low slots being brick-related. If not, the ideas still stand. There should be a give and take when it comes to mobility and hitpoints. My 250HP Scout shouldn't have a hard time keeping up with an 800HP MN Assault.

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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8535	Posted - 2015.04.04 02:34:00 - [32941] - Quote \o/ new data!!! http://dust.thang.dk/ has been updated! Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2482	Posted - 2015.04.04 03:11:00 - [32942] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Heads up! CCP Rattati wrote: I'm gonna be a huge tease and say, use this event to save up a sizeable amount of LP! Hope this means some of y'all are gonna help me get MinFW LP :P I min. <-------- damn I'm good no really tho i would love to run that with you. i hear all about your in yer face slap and tickle. suspect timezones dont favour us tho... i'm uk? I'm Pacific but tend to be active from 2-3 PM to 2 AM if I play, don't know how that translates to your region but that's how it is Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2484	Posted - 2015.04.04 03:13:00 - [32943] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: If you want to see something funny, checkout the Biotics timeline. Long live the king Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9056	Posted - 2015.04.04 04:12:00 - [32944] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: If you want to see something funny, checkout the Biotics timeline. Long live the king Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 736	Posted - 2015.04.04 04:26:00 - [32945] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Heads up! CCP Rattati wrote: I'm gonna be a huge tease and say, use this event to save up a sizeable amount of LP! Hope this means some of y'all are gonna help me get MinFW LP :P You know it! All hail the republic! Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2032	Posted - 2015.04.04 08:08:00 - [32946] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: If you want to see something funny, checkout the Biotics timeline. wow that's a huge leap!
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2032	Posted - 2015.04.04 08:10:00 - [32947] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Heads up! CCP Rattati wrote: I'm gonna be a huge tease and say, use this event to save up a sizeable amount of LP! Hope this means some of y'all are gonna help me get MinFW LP :P I min. <-------- damn I'm good no really tho i would love to run that with you. i hear all about your in yer face slap and tickle. suspect timezones dont favour us tho... i'm uk? I'm Pacific but tend to be active from 2-3 PM to 2 AM if I play, don't know how that translates to your region but that's how it is pacific is 8 hours behind here, so your 2pm is my 10pm etc. i would guess that means if you're on now you're likely packing up for the night
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3274	Posted - 2015.04.04 08:14:00 - [32948] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Heads up! CCP Rattati wrote: I'm gonna be a huge tease and say, use this event to save up a sizeable amount of LP! Hope this means some of y'all are gonna help me get MinFW LP :P You know it! All hail the republic! You know I'm in for the Republic, but not Federation. *Where did I leave my warbarge again?*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23074	Posted - 2015.04.04 10:02:00 - [32949] - Quote You need a dose of proper freedom, raven. Gallente Guide "More like a ban farm amirite" - CCP Frame
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2196	Posted - 2015.04.04 11:01:00 - [32950] - Quote FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOM! I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2487	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:14:00 - [32951] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Heads up! CCP Rattati wrote: I'm gonna be a huge tease and say, use this event to save up a sizeable amount of LP! Hope this means some of y'all are gonna help me get MinFW LP :P I min. <-------- damn I'm good no really tho i would love to run that with you. i hear all about your in yer face slap and tickle. suspect timezones dont favour us tho... i'm uk? I'm Pacific but tend to be active from 2-3 PM to 2 AM if I play, don't know how that translates to your region but that's how it is pacific is 8 hours behind here, so your 2pm is my 10pm etc. i would guess that means if you're on now you're likely packing up for the night Got it. That'll make it a bit tricky but I've squadded with some of the fellas in EU before Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 745	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:06:00 - [32952] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You need a dose of proper freedom, raven. Socialism FTW Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8546	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:22:00 - [32953] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: If you want to see something funny, checkout the Biotics timeline. Long live the king Easy to fix! Max Survivability = High HP + High Mobility Enforce a tradeoff between survivability factors with specific focus on Armor, as high slot diversity has been achieved with Myofibs, Precision, and Damage Amps all competing with Shields. Assuming Rattati's mass:movement model is currently off-the-table, two ideas: Idea 1 1) Increase strafe and mobility drawbacks for Reactive and Vanilla Plates 2) Add slight strafe and mobility drawbacks to Ferroscale Plates Idea 2 Adjust suit base movement speeds to correspond inversely with max HP: Current Max HP: Heavy > Assault > Commando > Logi > Scout Current Movement: Heavy < Commando < Logi < Assault < Scout Proposed Max HP: Heavy > Commando > Assault > Logi > Scout Proposed Movement: Heavy < Commando < Assault < Logi < Scout 1) Swap Assault and Logi base movement speeds 2) Reduce post-swap MN Logi base movement from 5.30 to 5.20 3) Add a low-slot to all Commandos (all races, all tiers) Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2039	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:02:00 - [32954] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: New PC is damn nice, haven't been on ps3 in two days. Just splashed on Elite Dangerous. PS3 is football (that's soccer to you North Americans) and DUST dropships only for a bit. The wife gets to watch Netflix whilst I get to pew pew in space and see if docking is as hard as it was in 1984 So getting into the space station is the easy part now - actually landing - well I'm glad I have shields and they don't penalise me for gouging holes in their landing pad.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2040	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:29:00 - [32955] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Did you see the mercs joining and leaving in that vid? Can't say I've ever looked for it before, but it was a constant join / leave / join / leave trickle, and amost exclusively blues. I did notice, and it is peculiar. It isn't like the other team were a bunch of badasses. Very odd ... I'm not seeing much of that at all in Ambush, btw. OK so I owe Prima Gallicus an apology, I thought they were lobby farming. Should've known better as those guys usually come across as good and fair in the forums. Adipem thanks for reigning in my false assumptions in that announcements thread - I toned down the language and actually worded it to give the benefit of the doubt in a few places. It appears there's a new Scotty bug - Flint Beastgood made it sound like it's well known but I had to dig into GD to find something related to it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2709357#post2709357 Need to keep this bumped as not sure people are aware of this problem, and it's not only killing battles, it's gonna cause ructions as ppl blame others for leaving battle on purpose when they aren't.
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3279	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:49:00 - [32956] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You need a dose of proper freedom, raven. Arkena, I would ask you learn to capitalize the 'R' in my name. Moving on to the subject of your statement, I overdosed long ago on freedom. Terrible drug, I assure you, it's side-effects include Screaming 'FREEDOM' Attempting to make everything Caldari useless. Stupidity Spinning while in use of scanner Hypocrisy Ignorance Death Cancer of the brain *Where did I leave my warbarge again?*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23077	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:00:00 - [32957] - Quote Why would I capitalise the R on the name of an animal? I don't capitalise the 'e' in elephant. Gallente Guide "More like a ban farm amirite" - CCP Frame
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3279	Posted - 2015.04.04 17:07:00 - [32958] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Why would I capitalise the R on the name of an animal? I don't capitalise the 'e' in elephant. You capitalize names, correct? My name is Raven. You would capitalize the 'e' in elephant if it was addressing an person of that name. *Where did I leave my warbarge again?*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23077	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:32:00 - [32959] - Quote I capitalise the names of people, not caldari animals. Gallente Guide "More like a ban farm amirite" - CCP Frame
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3280	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:41:00 - [32960] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I capitalise the names of people, not caldari animals. I did not know racism was a side effect of freedom. Besides, I am no longer active in FW. I will be playing next week, but after that I won't. Actually I will probably play all factions in FW next week. *Where did I leave my warbarge again?*
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9061	Posted - 2015.04.04 19:19:00 - [32961] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: If you want to see something funny, checkout the Biotics timeline. Long live the king Easy to fix! Max Survivability = High HP + High Mobility Enforce a tradeoff between survivability factors with specific focus on Armor, as high slot diversity has been achieved with Myofibs, Precision, and Damage Amps all competing with Shields. Assuming Rattati's mass:movement model is currently off-the-table, two ideas: Idea 1: Quick Fix 1) Increase strafe and mobility drawbacks for Reactive and Vanilla Plates 2) Add slight strafe and mobility drawbacks to Ferroscale Plates Idea 2: Thorough Fix Adjust suit base movement speeds to correspond inversely with max HP: Current Max HP: Heavy > Assault > Commando > Logi > Scout Current Movement: Heavy < Commando < Logi < Assault < Scout Proposed Max HP: Heavy > Commando > Assault > Logi > Scout Proposed Movement: Heavy < Commando < Assault < Logi < Scout 1) Swap Assault and Logi base movement speeds 2) Reduce post-swap MN Logi base movement from 5.30 to 5.20 3) Add a low-slot to all Commandos (all races, all tiers) Sorry for the confusion. My face was more for the liberal use of the term king, but since it is also the same face I make when regarding HP I probably should have been more clear. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8549	Posted - 2015.04.04 20:41:00 - [32962] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Long live the king Easy to fix (King HP)! Max Survivability = High HP + High Mobility Enforce a tradeoff between survivability factors with specific focus on Armor, as high slot diversity has been achieved with Myofibs, Precision, and Damage Amps all competing with Shields. Assuming Rattati's mass:movement model is currently off-the-table, two ideas: Idea 1: Quick Fix 1) Increase strafe and mobility drawbacks for Reactive and Vanilla Plates 2) Add slight strafe and mobility drawbacks to Ferroscale Plates Idea 2: Thorough Fix Adjust suit base movement speeds to correspond inversely with max HP: Current Max HP: Heavy > Assault > Commando > Logi > Scout Current Movement: Heavy < Commando < Logi < Assault < Scout Proposed Max HP: Heavy > Commando > Assault > Logi > Scout Proposed Movement: Heavy < Commando < Assault < Logi < Scout 1) Swap Assault and Logi base movement speeds 2) Reduce post-swap MN Logi base movement from 5.30 to 5.20 3) Add a low-slot to all Commandos (all races, all tiers) Sorry for the confusion. My face was more for the liberal use of the term king, but since it is also the same face I make when regarding HP I probably should have been more clear. Figured "long live the king" had something to do with 9/10 of the most popular low slots being brick-related. If not, the ideas still stand. There should be a give and take when it comes to mobility and HP. A 250HP Scout or 350HP Logi shouldn't be hard-pressed to keep up with 800HP MN Assaults. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9066	Posted - 2015.04.04 20:46:00 - [32963] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Long live the king Easy to fix (King HP)! Max Survivability = High HP + High Mobility Enforce a tradeoff between survivability factors with specific focus on Armor, as high slot diversity has been achieved with Myofibs, Precision, and Damage Amps all competing with Shields. Assuming Rattati's mass:movement model is currently off-the-table, two ideas: Idea 1: Quick Fix 1) Increase strafe and mobility drawbacks for Reactive and Vanilla Plates 2) Add slight strafe and mobility drawbacks to Ferroscale Plates Idea 2: Thorough Fix Adjust suit base movement speeds to correspond inversely with max HP: Current Max HP: Heavy > Assault > Commando > Logi > Scout Current Movement: Heavy < Commando < Logi < Assault < Scout Proposed Max HP: Heavy > Commando > Assault > Logi > Scout Proposed Movement: Heavy < Commando < Assault < Logi < Scout 1) Swap Assault and Logi base movement speeds 2) Reduce post-swap MN Logi base movement from 5.30 to 5.20 3) Add a low-slot to all Commandos (all races, all tiers) Sorry for the confusion. My face was more for the liberal use of the term king, but since it is also the same face I make when regarding HP I probably should have been more clear. Figured "long live the king" had something to do with 9/10 of the most popular low slots being brick-related. If not, the ideas still stand. There should be a give and take when it comes to mobility and hitpoints. My 250HP Scout shouldn't have a hard time keeping up with an 800HP MN Assault. Agreed. HP is too big an advantage in Dust. EWAR used to have its place, but that was seen fit to be severely diminished. I think HP could be taken down a notch or two in effectiveness. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2048	Posted - 2015.04.04 21:34:00 - [32964] - Quote Awesome battle just now, just listened to Maken's open forum and thought ahh what the hell, I'm on my main, try a game, see what's happening. https://youtu.be/rxy-6wVeu8g They did just enough to hold 2 out of 4 whilst slightly ahead. We tried to push a third but they knew what they were doing. Sooo close.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8550	Posted - 2015.04.04 21:39:00 - [32965] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: ... Agreed. HP is too big an advantage in Dust. EWAR used to have its place, but that was seen fit to be severely diminished. I think HP could be taken down a notch or two in effectiveness. I don't think that high average HP is a problem on its own. It becomes a problem (in my opinion) when permitted to coexist with high mobility. FoTM is FoTM for a reason, and the past year of FoTM has been found where high mobility and high HP were simultaneously achieved (Assault Lite GalScout ---> Assault Lite CalScout ---> MN Assault). Myofibs, Damage Amps and Precision Enhancers are paying sufficient dividends to compete with high-slot HP tank. The same cannot be said for low-slot tank. Low-slot EWAR and Biotics are affording their users too little a benefit, brick is affording too great a benefit, or drawbacks to stacking brick are insufficient to discourage users from doing so. The net result is what we see in PC and pubstomps. Players stacking brick atop more brick. The relative advantage and lack of drawbacks are sufficient to reduce EWAR, Biotic and mixed low-slot loadouts to nonviable. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8550	Posted - 2015.04.04 21:44:00 - [32966] - Quote Quil's at it again ... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2710659#post2710659 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8550	Posted - 2015.04.04 21:45:00 - [32967] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem thanks for reigning in my false assumptions in that announcements thread - I toned down the language and actually worded it to give the benefit of the doubt in a few places. NP! Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9067	Posted - 2015.04.04 22:25:00 - [32968] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Quil's at it again ... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2710659#post2710659 I am really worried about him. Its like he had no memory of being here before. I hope its not early onset Alzheimers. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8554	Posted - 2015.04.04 23:40:00 - [32969] - Quote Hobbits say peculiar things. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2823	Posted - 2015.04.05 04:05:00 - [32970] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: You need a dose of proper freedom, raven. Arkena, I would ask you learn to capitalize the 'R' in my name. Sir Raven Wing, I would ask you, learn to properly capitalize the rest of your name. People find this this review helpful!

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