CAPS LOCK BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!

I WITHDRAW ALL PREVIOUS NEGATIVE STATEMENTS ABOUT ACTIVE SCANNERS!

Seriously, those things are BEAST.

If you've got 4 slots or teammates handling hives and uplinks on a 3-slot suit, you NEED one of these things. That's all there is to it. Period. SENTANCE!

I ran about 4 hours of matches with a friend and his pickup squad and about half way in I was sold. I skilled in to just the basic scanner and with nanite injectors a mess decided to drop it into my injector slot.

Might swap my Amarr Logi for Gallente or Minmatar Logi for those 4 slots at proto so I can keep my Nanohive, Drop uplink, remote explosives and Active scanner. How do you guys fit your Gallente or Minmatar Suits?

Happily chugging along with me Gal Logi I just have a quick question. Sorry if this has been asked before, I tried a few searches but couldnt find the answer.

Im close to getting my ADV Logi suit with ADV equipment. What I am wondering is with that third low slot should I add another plate, repper or a regualtor?

I am pretty set on going 2x Extenders in the high to add a little more tank to my suit. What I am not so sure about is how much of a benefit a shield regulator would be on a Gal suit seeing as we have such a high shield delay. Any incite would be greatly appreciated.

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[quote=Chankk Saotome] I have a dream... It is a dream deeply rooted in the Logibro dream.

I have a dream, that one day amongst the constructs of Ashlands, waves of heavies and assaults will be trailed by golden lines of life saving armor repair, standing in the glow of restocking nanohives reaching out and crushing the foe before them. I have a dream.

I have a dream. That downed bluedots will not be afraid or too impatient to wait for the aide of a nanite injector and even stay beside their fellow clone for supplemental armor repair. I have a dream.

I have a dream, that one day, men will not be judged by their KDR but by the true benefit they offer their team, I have a dream today!

I have a dream, that one day, from sweltering plains of Skim Junction to the frozen peaks of Manus, men and women will work together and aid one another to their fullest for the benefit of all above and beyond their own self interest, I have a dream.

I have a dream, that one day, even right there in the fields of Line Harvest little blue dots, and little green dots, will join hands as sisters and brothers in overcoming the overwhelming odds of reddot oppression to work in the full spirit of brotherhood, I HAVE A DREAM TODAY!
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A strong man can do many things,
But the strongest knows he cannot do everything alone.

Two part question:

1. From folks who have more experience, are the Dren Logistics M-1 and the Sever Logistics M-1 suits, being the only BPO available on the logistics side, worth picking up if you didn't go Minmatar Logi? (Does the Dren M-1 suit have skill requirements like the Sever M-1 does?)

2. With the differences in play style between Logi suits as you move from Basic to Proto is there a disadvantage (other than sheer time and SP) to pick up a secondary Logi suit chain? (~324K SP for basic and then 821K SP for Advanced) Given that you can use Neo variants to try out the next higher version once you reach Skill levels 1 and 3?

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I'm gonna say it, can this become the official position of the Logi community on the matter? Everybody agree?

On another topic what do you think the next go to gun for logis will be? I'm talking about the new Rail Rifle or Combat Rifle (and placing my bets on the CR)

I've just about done all I can over the past 6 months. My advice to any dedicated logibro, new and old, is to skill into a sidearm just in case if CCP gives in to the forum whining. Given their track record, things don't look too good for us.

Meeko Fent wrote:

If we buff everything else up to an OP items standards, then that masks the originally planned balance and TTK.

If we buffed every gun up to the level of TAR, what do you think would be wrong?

If we buffed every gun up to the level of the flay what do you think would be wrong?

If we buffed every suit up to the level of the CalLogi, what do you think would be wrong?

Its the one outlier among the med frames. If you throw it out, the scale of HP between suits is much more reasonable, and balance is a bit better with heavies having their HP range far from that of a med frame can reach.

Buffing everything up to an OP item isn't how balance works.

It could very be. But i would urge for 2 side arms then for some variety. Remember that when you skill you should be trying to use a gun that best fits your playstyle. Some own with the Flaylock, for me it is the SMG.

Edit: And the logi nerf topics are starting up again. Someone remind me why I throw my ISK and KDR down the toilet to support teammates that thank me with nerf complaints?

Each day, I send a Corp mail to my basic training corp, Immortal Guides. It is a Tip-of-the-day sort of thing. Generally it is a section of a guide. Because I have an EVE account I can cut and past into the in-game mail.

Although I have many guides, my Corp has been running for many many days. So I am starting to run out of material.

Would it be ok if I send portions of this guide as a tip of the day to my Corp? Credit to the author would be given.

Strongly agree on those points. This whole "nerf the logi" argument is, IMO, due to the fact that we have a WHOLE lot more options to play with. Logistics suits are truly the highlight of module based game play and offer a wide variety of customization's to many situations. Before I sacked all my Logi fits to rebuild them, I had nearly 15 different fits at different levels at different costs, and each time I found myself doing better, war point wise, than the best of my squad.

Even though I strongly agree that other suits should get buffs, the logi is in need of a redesign. Before you stone me to death for saying what could be considered sacrilegious hear out this point.

Lo-+gis-+tics (n) : the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies.

This means pretty simply, we are coordinators, planners and true support. We are not combatants, we are command, and we are support. The best way to fit that definition is to not think combat wise, and more strategically and tactically. A few suggestions to this would be, and may even create a new class if you think about it:

• Large radar (50m) with team sharing passive scan (no wp bonus for this), with a nerf to weapon damage by at most 25%, at least to 10%
• Repair tools buffed by 10% (per logi level)
• Shields/Armor (race dependent) buffed by 5% per logi level
• Active scanning (which works as a bonus to the logis already increased team sharing radar), buffed by 10m/level

Other than this give a single racial and things can look super differently for the logistics class. If you think that I am spouting nonsense feel free to say, but to my last breath I will defend this option, because I believe that it is in the true spirit of logistics. Everything else, such as the current LogiBro mentality, is really the Medic Mentality.

By the way, RedBleach LeSanglant, when I came across your guide I was already 2m SP in, but since then I have followed your guide closely, and now I am a pretty successful 9m SP Proto Logi that can achieve at minimum 1500 WP per match. If there were a way I could help contribute, I would hope this post shows it.