Curious: What do you Caldari logibros think about the CPU reduction that will be implemented? Especially the 40 CPU hit at proto level?

On my heavy I have to be carful if I am working with a Gallente Logi-Bro. Since I run Kinetic Catalysers I have a bad habit of outrunning my logi. It is mostly just bad habits on my part due to only working with a Logi about 3 times in the first month I played Heavy. But a Minmitar Logi would probably have an easier time keeping up with me.

Over the holidays I started squadding regularly with a high ranked Loti-Bro. After I outran his Proto Plate tanked Minmatar Logi suit a few times he sat me down and gave me a good stern talking to. He then made me change my fit, and was not impressed when I sheepishly admitted that despite all my other models being Proto and my HMG Proficiency being at 5, I could only equip Militia Plates.

So I am levelling up the Armour Plate skill now, and have gotten more experience at working with Logi-Bro. I have to say that clearing a room with two Proto Remote Armour Repairs on me is quite the empowering experience.

I have to disagree with my Logi-Bro on one thing though. He thinks that a Heavy should just do his thing and it is 100% the Logi-BroGÇÖs responsibility to deal with positioning. However, I think a Heavy that keeps track of where his Logi-Bro is, the position of Cover and the angles of Line of Site, makes a much more effective Heavy/Logi team than a Heavy that just focusses on what he is doing.

I am also finding that clear communication between the Heavy and his Logi-Bro is very important as well.

These feel like rookie questions ... so I'm probably over-thinking.

Note: This is specifically asked from a Logi-bro perspective (not Logi-assault etc.)

• What Shield/Armor levels should a Logi-Bro be aiming for by Advanced?
• Is that recommended mark different when we're geared for supporting heavies v.s. a standard assault squad?
• Should we be going using Ferroscale or Reactive instead of Standard?
• What is the balance between shield regulation/recharge modules and armor repair modules and armor/shields?

Perhaps in the 'advanced' section a look at general differences between the Logibro specialty suit builds? I.E. Heavy Support v.s. Advanced Rally Support v.s. Mobile Frontline

Subjectively, I 'feel' like I'm getting killed too fast to feel comfortable running Advanced suits. Due to that (and an aversion to loosing money right and left) I've been running Standard suits. I can currently hit over 700 combined armor and shields when maxed out, but I don't want to be a slow armor tank in my suit.

As a frame of reference, I run typically as a stealthier build with Profile dampening and Profile Dampener modules. And most groups I end playing the 'Rally support' role.

Thanks for chiming in and lending a hand.

The thing about the injectors and repair tools is that they use nanites (basically microscopic machines: nanomachines) to funtcion. Unlike armor, the nanites wouldn't be able to interact with shields since it is more or less energy. Now what you're thinking of isn't a Repair tool but rather a "Charge" tool.

Now for the personal repair you are correct in that people would abuse it. I played MAG and most everyone carried the Med Tool simply to heal themselves while ignoring the comrades who are calling out for first aid.

Separate skills for equipment might be difficult since a few of the equipment is placed instead of carried.

Gotta be honest, I think a lot of the suggestions you are making sound a bit OP, especially the self-reps and needles. Self reps are not hard to figure out why, you've already mentioned it. A low rate of self rep (as a % of the reps you give) is probably fine.

Injectors you've added entirely too much functionality to without drawbacks to compensate. Instead of variants these are just supercharged versions of what we already have.

- Vehicles have recently taught us a hard lesson in how damage resistance can be OP. A proto or LP needle giving 10s of 50% resistance to damage on an Amarr or gallente sentinel which will already have it's own inherent damage resistance could lead to some interesting tactics like a logi TKing his own heavy and then making him into his own personal reanimated zombie killdozer with a LP armor injector and core focused rep tool. I know, that sounds seriously awesome but it's also most likely OP.

- a more balanced injector would be a shield variant which supercharges shield recharge at a cost of a significant amount of armor, maybe 10-20%, along the lines of what you suggest, but without any instant shield replenishment.

As for uplinks, I really like where you are going with the covert ops one. Less excited about the hardened one, I don't know that I care enough that uplinks will have less SP in 1.8 to bother with those.

Also, while I like the idea of the scan profile getting lower, I think that's better as a variant than a skill bonus, again, you're adding additional benefits to an existing piece of equipment without a drawback.

For my money I'd like to see the skill bonuses either be applied to basic properties so that, say, on a Minnie logi suit if you have uplinks to 5 then your uplinks become nearly as good as they are now without having to use an Amarr suit, same with rep tools on an Amarr suit and not Minnie, etc, etc.

That might be viewed unfavorably by CCP, though, perhaps it could be an anti-spam measure, something I proposed a while ago, where the number of equipments you could have out at once was determined by the skill level.

Not sure what you mean by "Proximity Sensors". Do Uplinks show when an enemy is near it? Though I think they should rename the Current Proxy mines to AV mines and add REAL Proxy mines. Place them and smile when it explodes due to an enemy stepping near it.

Wait , caring about your kdr doing make you a fake logi , it makes you c conscious player , i dont get how you guys think logis should be a free kill waiting to happen and i will disagree 100% i care about my kdr and i freak out something times when i go negative but most of the time i have like 9 kills and most of my war points come from uplinks , nanohives , my repair tool and so fourth so nobody listen to this guy , its what you do with your logi suit that says if your a true logi or not

Speaking of which, the shield one should probably be just a level 4 adv variant, and not a full fledged alternative at all tiers. a shield instant boost would be fine if there was no damage resistance or vice versa, it's both together that's potentially OP.

Oh, and I like the idea of self reps but I agree that you went into too many different scenarios and it was hard to follow.

The best way to limit the potential forms use IMO is to make it a feedback type of thing where you get back a small % of the actual healing you give, meaning that simply having the tool locked onto someone won't give you any reps, you have to be actively repairing them (not just have them on a leash).

Until I get an answer to this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1955287#post1955287

I'm nervous about skilling into any other logi suit.

Does anyone else think the AR is obsolete now? With the RR and the CR being more powerful with a longer range many people switched to them. 1.8 gave what I believe to be a much needed nerf to the damage of the RR and CR, the AR was also nerfed, just played today and it seemed to be so inadaquete despite having an adv damage mod, Which is sad since I blew my remaining SP into AR reload and ammo after speccing into min-logi and maxing weapon mod and scanners

I am seeing a wider variety of weapons on the field. And assault mass drivers are in that list. (Ouch!)

While there is no official answer, I just wanted to post here to say that after multiple players have tested items, it seems that your EQ bonus is only maintained while you are wearing the specific suit required. This has been tested by many players, myself included so a fair warning to all those that would invest in the future. That is an insane amount of SP to spend to be tied in such a manner so before people start thinking of skilling into multiple logi suits, be warned.

No you're all right. Keeping a thread process open like that would be incredibly intensive to the already high performance of all the other components to the game itself. Even if the thread is as small as opening every 60 seconds to check on number stats, doing so for 32 players...

And it does have to be time based. So far all research has shown a 'lag' for how long until the bonus resets when switching off suits either from death or supply depot change.