Go ahead CCP take the cap off but if it all goes wrong don't come crying to us asking for forgiveness.
You see we are not EVE spaceship drivers, we are FPS's and guess what?

We will have a new flavor of the month right around the corner to pick up where you failed.

Do your posts ever stop being stupid?

The weekly skill system was better. I personally don't want CCP to remove the skill cap completely, because then i'll have to grind 24/7.

no cap at all i think would cause problems. I think the weekly cap worked well.

it allowed for everyone to get the most out of it. those that can play an hour everyday, those that can play all day on a day off. Those that have more time than others to play are at no more of a disadvantage on the weekly rather than the daily either.

If there is no cap it will become quickly a proto vs militia game.

Ive seen other people are suggesting a rolling sp cap. i think thats a really good idea coupled with the weekly. that then means that no one is ever an unatainable amount ahead. in the current system, those that miss out on a day, never get that day back. If it was rolling then on a week off work for example you could hammer it and catch up. with no sp cap you could hammer it an take over. That i dont think is a great idea.

To add to that idea slightly......

We could have two skill point counters. An attained skill points, and a Attainable skill points. That way you can see what the maximum amount of sp's you could have earned / could earn (should you put some hours in). gives you more incentive to play because you can see what you are missing, and more incentive to pay.

With no cap aurum becomes less important. at the minute we use it to give us an edge over others, or simply to catch us up. With no sp cap then some people will end up so far ahead (maxed and specialised for eg) that the ohers then have no incentive to get that extra few % aurum gives. Because having 50% the effectiveness of the top sp players might aswell be the same as being 55% the effectiveness. You get the same outcome from both, CREAMED. So no point loosing good money doing it, and no point spending aurum if you know you can win easilly without it/you already have level 5 everything anyway.

Here is your tinfoil hat: You will need it.

Hokay newbies, scrubs, neckbeards and various hygeinically challenged denizens of New Eden, listen up!

SP advantage only stays an advantage for so long. Yes the puds who play 24/7 will have more SP. But there's only so many skills directly applicable to each class of dropsuit. So they will have to sprad out and diversify or quit spending SP entirely. Their advantage will be mastery of more stuff.

The equalizer of the newbie scrub is to pick a role and master it. so if you pick assault don't worry about skills irrelevant to assault until you're 100% proto. Why? because once you're there, the 24/7 scumbutt has no measurable advantage over you when you run an assault fit.

Specialization is the equalizer, you can be the master of your chosen area, and there's nothing the hardcore neckbeards can do to keep you from getting there.

Once you master even one dropsuit, you're set. You can **** off to your avatar all you want and feel happy that you can be competitive.

the imperfect who plays 16 hours a day has wanked his way to the top. doesn't stop you from being able to gank him though.

You're on his level because you specialized.

+1 breakin

People have got think beyond the here and now - as if you are going to miss being given some magical sp . In 2 months time sp on your character will only be about diversification. Just think about how much sp you will have in 6months.


Sp shouldn't be the b all end all of this game. It's the fps.

I don't care if the cap goes. Boosters will become worthwhile and ccp needs to make money. Though the way the sp grind would be set up the average to lower players in a game would gain no sp at all. Turning off players. So the way earning sp would need to be reviewed.

Other way to do it would be to make it all passive sp with different passive sp boosters. Say -ú5 for a third boost -ú10 for a 100% boost etc.

Here is your tinfoil hat: You will need it.

Hokay newbies, scrubs, neckbeards and various hygeinically challenged denizens of New Eden, listen up!

SP advantage only stays an advantage for so long. Yes the puds who play 24/7 will have more SP. But there's only so many skills directly applicable to each class of dropsuit. So they will have to sprad out and diversify or quit spending SP entirely. Their advantage will be mastery of more stuff.

The equalizer of the newbie scrub is to pick a role and master it. so if you pick assault don't worry about skills irrelevant to assault until you're 100% proto. Why? because once you're there, the 24/7 scumbutt has no measurable advantage over you when you run an assault fit.

Specialization is the equalizer, you can be the master of your chosen area, and there's nothing the hardcore neckbeards can do to keep you from getting there.

Once you master even one dropsuit, you're set. You can **** off to your avatar all you want and feel happy that you can be competitive.

the imperfect who plays 16 hours a day has wanked his way to the top. doesn't stop you from being able to gank him though.

You're on his level because you specialized.

boosters would be less woth while. now an active booster means you can get more sp than someone without one, as does the passive.

with no cap someone without a booster can earn more than you simply by playing more.

I think most people are thinking about the future. Skill points is something that gives this game its identity, its also something that keeps you coming back for more, because theres always a new tank, or suit, or booster that you couldnt use yesterday that you can today. thats why EVE is one of the most long lived mmorpg's around, and probably has the most loyal fan base.
This game wasnt about making another battlefeild. it was about making something different. If you wan to grind to get the next gun, COD -> is that way

I have the the most awesome corpmates EVER.

We are well aware of the fact that the daily/weekly skill point rollover system is the favorite amongst the community, and we are implementing such a system aimed at the next major release. However, the change to add a roll over system is not immediately possible. The five options that we can apply in the immediate short term are the following:

No its not instanced. A fully decked out skilled player merely has enough health to claim he is still alive. They get an edge but can die just as easily.

Its an fps for Christs sake people died for stupider reasons. So you have to fire 1 or two more bullets. Big whoop.

The point still stands that head shots still 1 shot, OBs still one shot, grenades still one shot and lastly tanks still one shot.

Learn to aim, learn to relay hard targets to your heavy arms teammates and learn to coordinate effort.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=486439

how about that

The no SP cap will never work. There are far too many unemployed and part time students playing this game. Without an SP cap this game would be out of balance in a few weeks.

we're still in a beta guys, I would like CCP to try an uncapped system for a little while, and gather some data using it now that we have a larger playerbase.

The no SP cap will never work. There are far too many unemployed and part time students playing this game. Without an SP cap this game would be out of balance in a few weeks.

Yep.

The weekly cap is what most of us wanted, they are working from our suggestions on a pool system, just a matter of time.

From the looks of the voting, we are going with a weekly cap with 1k max SP per match. This isn't a bad temporary fix, its a good one IMO and a damn site better than a daily cap we've been using.

The weekly cap helps casuals max out SP per week, the 1k SP per game lets the HC actually progress when capped out.

HC players, think about how many games you play of DUST in a day? 30-60? So you'll be making on avg 40k (what the daily cap was with boosters) a day more than the casual. Win-Win imo until the real SP system is put in...