DUST Search - [Updated] Full Removal of the SP Cap

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(2:46:50 AM) [CCP]nothin: harro
(2:46:56 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: o/
(2:47:20 AM) [CCP]nothin: who hates the daily cap?
(2:47:28 AM) [CCP]nothin: o/
(2:47:55 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: It sucks being required to play everyday or i miss out yes. but I don't really mind it :P
(2:48:10 AM) ishneyk2: ^
(2:48:33 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: why do you ask nothin?
(2:48:47 AM) [CCP]nothin: because we're about to try out removing the cap entirely
(2:49:01 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: ohhh.. hmmm
(2:49:21 AM) [CCP]nothin: we'll take down the battle skill gain amounts a bit as a precautionary measure though
(2:49:45 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: i was thinking what would keep it on the same pace kinda as it is now
(2:49:52 AM) [CCP]nothin: but, we'd like to get as much feedback as possible on it
(2:49:56 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: but yeahh sounds good to me :)
(2:49:57 AM) Bendtner92: That sounds interesting Nothin
(2:49:57 AM) [CCP]nothin: :)
(2:50:13 AM) [CCP]nothin: this'll be going live today
(2:50:18 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: always be gaining SP for any time you put into the game i like that alot :D
(2:50:18 AM) [CCP]nothin: (fingers crossed)
(2:50:20 AM) Bendtner92: How much are decreasing SP output?
(2:50:34 AM) [CCP]nothin: we're taking down the SP you get from time a bit
(2:50:43 AM) [CCP]nothin: you'll still get 1 SP per 1 WP
(2:50:44 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: you should really make Thread for feedback on it.
(2:50:56 AM) Bendtner92: I don't mind decreasing it a bit if we have no cap
(2:51:00 AM) [CCP]nothin: yup
(2:51:05 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: me either
(2:51:16 AM) [CCP]nothin: but do let us know how it feels
(2:51:23 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: so now every kill = SP :)
(2:51:25 AM) Bendtner92: So no diminishing returns or something like that?
(2:51:51 AM) [CCP]nothin: no diminishing returns
(2:51:56 AM) Bendtner92: Cool
(2:52:11 AM) ishneyk2: question, do instant battle take into account how many SP the player has?
(2:52:24 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: well remember to be in the regular Dust514 irc and i'll gladly let you know after we try it out tomorrow :P
(2:52:34 AM) Bendtner92: Do we still have 5 SP per second in battle, or is that taken out too?
(2:53:06 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: he said the time spent in battle SP will be lowered as well
(2:53:28 AM) Bendtner92: Ah right, missed that
(2:53:30 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: but thats also to stop the AFK SP gains while in a battle :P
(2:53:36 AM) Bendtner92: This will be good :)
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(3:01:48 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: SILENTSAM69[ROFL] = nub
(3:03:11 AM) Beers: agree
(3:03:24 AM) Beers: scrub nub
(3:03:24 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: yay!
(3:03:32 AM) Beers: scruby nubby
(3:03:35 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: do I get an award?
(3:03:43 AM) ***Beers could go on, but wont
(3:04:07 AM) Beers: you survived dust514 close beta and having killed a room full of people yet?
(3:04:15 AM) Beers: haven't
(3:04:29 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: [CCP]nothin: SILENTSAM69[ROFL] doesn't believe when i said no SP cap starting tomorrow [after DT]
(3:04:34 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: :P
(3:04:42 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: is it true?
(3:04:47 AM) Bendtner92: Yes
(3:04:56 AM) Beers: he already answered that
(3:04:58 AM) Beers: earlier
(3:04:59 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: I didn't have the irc open :( I cant scroll back
(3:05:09 AM) Beers: the hard cap was to limit our headstart
(3:05:12 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: when did he say that?
(3:05:34 AM) Beers: i have web browers irc so dont have log
(3:05:40 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: check TS sam
(3:06:06 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: posted it in a convo :P
(3:06:27 AM) Noc: CCP nothin = favorite dev \o/
(3:08:38 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: so this happens with tonights downtime?
(3:09:09 AM) Heinz_Doofenshertz: thats what he said

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Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:50:00 - [1] - Quote So, i heard from a dev confirmation that today they want to REMOVE the sp cap entirely. Reducing the AFK SP earned and keeping the 1 WP = 1 SP deal. Just thought you guys would like to know about what i consider to be a giant mistake. Say hello to Dust 247. Where no life teenage grinders from all around the world are kings. UPDATE : Probably wont be in for this DT.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:52:00 - [2] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: So, i heard from a dev confirmation that today they want to REMOVE the sp cap entirely. Reducing the AFK SP earned and keeping the 1 WP = 1 SP deal. Just thought you guys would like to know about what i consider to be a giant mistake. Say hello to Dust 247. Where no life teenage grinders from all around the world are kings. ... no way. Tell me your lying. Don't do this to us Q.Q Is a roll-over cap really that hard to program? I'd rather keep the hard cap then let no lifers run a mok.
The Infected One CrimeWave Syndicate 126	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:53:00 - [3] - Quote Link or it didn't happen.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:54:00 - [4] - Quote IRC. And saw a dev actually confirm it. And not my style to make up **** like that. Or Troll. Obviously i really hope i got trolled myself. but i dont think i was.
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 360	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:55:00 - [5] - Quote We're all gonna die Quote: [CCP]nothinwe're removing the skill cap today at downtime if all goes well
Gemini Reynolds Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 69	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:57:00 - [6] - Quote True story as per CCP Nothing. They are 'Trying it out'.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.22 08:58:00 - [7] - Quote Gemini Reynolds wrote: True story as per CCP Nothing. They are 'Trying it out'. You think maybe they just want an estimate of how many people are no lifers? Think they'd of figured stuff out like that 2 builds ago when SP was a plenty.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:00:00 - [8] - Quote It's a MASSIVE mistake for so many reason that i dont even have the courage to start an actual list.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 235	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:01:00 - [9] - Quote *Facepalm
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:03:00 - [10] - Quote Armageddon was just predicted this day. Hopefully it won't stay more then a week.

KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:04:00 - [11] - Quote Soooo no cap AT ALL period?!
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 360	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:06:00 - [12] - Quote thats what he said
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:06:00 - [13] - Quote Terrible way to start things off. This....wow. Wow. No way, it has to be a prank >_< And what's worse, is they basically have to keep it that way. Letting all these people in, good luck trying to force them back into a reasonable rate of SP. Wtf, this has to be a joke, SP gains were almost perfect. Getting ready to be pissed. Nothing like being punished for having responsibilities outside of DUST
Quill Killian Better Hide R Die 107	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:07:00 - [14] - Quote Hmm. And I'm on vacation until Feb. 5 ...
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1036	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:08:00 - [15] - Quote but the sp gain being based on wp and reduced sp per second in match. I actually think its a fair thing to try but for anyone but the hard core 12 hours a day game it might be bad. I can cap my sp in about 90 minutes with active booster I would be insterested to see how long it takes me.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:08:00 - [16] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Terrible way to start things off. This....wow. Wow. No way, it has to be a prank >_< And what's worse, is they basically have to keep it that way. Letting all these people in, good luck trying to force them back into a reasonable rate of SP. Wtf, this has to be a joke, SP gains were almost perfect. Getting ready to be pissed. Nothing like being punished for having responsibilities outside of DUST It's 3 am for most americans. Can't wait till they all wake up and see this. The level of butt hurt will reach new heights. I know my own butt is soar from this terrible news.
ExRDV Pilot Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 8	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:08:00 - [17] - Quote best idea ever actually. you get sp how much you play. problem solved.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:09:00 - [18] - Quote Wishing today was April 1st
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:11:00 - [19] - Quote ExRDV Pilot wrote: best idea ever actually. you get sp how much you play. problem solved. I think you mean problem created. Looks like we'll be seeing proto gear all over the place by the end of the month. What a shame.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:11:00 - [20] - Quote ExRDV Pilot wrote: best idea ever actually. you get sp how much you play. problem solved. -1 I seriously hope u are trollololing

RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:13:00 - [21] - Quote Quote: (2:46:50 AM) [CCP]nothin: harro (2:46:56 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: o/ (2:47:20 AM) [CCP]nothin: who hates the daily cap? (2:47:28 AM) [CCP]nothin: o/ (2:47:55 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: It sucks being required to play everyday or i miss out yes. but I don't really mind it :P (2:48:10 AM) ishneyk2: ^ (2:48:33 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: why do you ask nothin? (2:48:47 AM) [CCP]nothin: because we're about to try out removing the cap entirely (2:49:01 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: ohhh.. hmmm (2:49:21 AM) [CCP]nothin: we'll take down the battle skill gain amounts a bit as a precautionary measure though (2:49:45 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: i was thinking what would keep it on the same pace kinda as it is now (2:49:52 AM) [CCP]nothin: but, we'd like to get as much feedback as possible on it (2:49:56 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: but yeahh sounds good to me :) (2:49:57 AM) Bendtner92: That sounds interesting Nothin (2:49:57 AM) [CCP]nothin: :) (2:50:13 AM) [CCP]nothin: this'll be going live today (2:50:18 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: always be gaining SP for any time you put into the game i like that alot :D (2:50:18 AM) [CCP]nothin: (fingers crossed) (2:50:20 AM) Bendtner92: How much are decreasing SP output? (2:50:34 AM) [CCP]nothin: we're taking down the SP you get from time a bit (2:50:43 AM) [CCP]nothin: you'll still get 1 SP per 1 WP (2:50:44 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: you should really make Thread for feedback on it. (2:50:56 AM) Bendtner92: I don't mind decreasing it a bit if we have no cap (2:51:00 AM) [CCP]nothin: yup (2:51:05 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: me either (2:51:16 AM) [CCP]nothin: but do let us know how it feels (2:51:23 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: so now every kill = SP :) (2:51:25 AM) Bendtner92: So no diminishing returns or something like that? (2:51:51 AM) [CCP]nothin: no diminishing returns (2:51:56 AM) Bendtner92: Cool (2:52:11 AM) ishneyk2: question, do instant battle take into account how many SP the player has? (2:52:24 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: well remember to be in the regular Dust514 irc and i'll gladly let you know after we try it out tomorrow :P (2:52:34 AM) Bendtner92: Do we still have 5 SP per second in battle, or is that taken out too? (2:53:06 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: he said the time spent in battle SP will be lowered as well (2:53:28 AM) Bendtner92: Ah right, missed that (2:53:30 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: but thats also to stop the AFK SP gains while in a battle :P (2:53:36 AM) Bendtner92: This will be good :) (2:57:15 AM) Beers left the room (quit: Client exited). (2:58:22 AM) Beers [[email protected]] entered the room. (3:01:20 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL] [[email protected]] entered the room. (3:01:48 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: SILENTSAM69[ROFL] = nub (3:03:11 AM) Beers: agree (3:03:24 AM) Beers: scrub nub (3:03:24 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: yay! (3:03:32 AM) Beers: scruby nubby (3:03:35 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: do I get an award? (3:03:43 AM) ***Beers could go on, but wont (3:04:07 AM) Beers: you survived dust514 close beta and having killed a room full of people yet? (3:04:15 AM) Beers: haven't (3:04:29 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: [CCP]nothin: SILENTSAM69[ROFL] doesn't believe when i said no SP cap starting tomorrow [after DT] (3:04:34 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: :P (3:04:42 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: is it true? (3:04:47 AM) Bendtner92: Yes (3:04:56 AM) Beers: he already answered that (3:04:58 AM) Beers: earlier (3:04:59 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: I didn't have the irc open :( I cant scroll back (3:05:09 AM) Beers: the hard cap was to limit our headstart (3:05:12 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: when did he say that? (3:05:34 AM) Beers: i have web browers irc so dont have log (3:05:40 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: check TS sam (3:06:06 AM) RolyatDerTeufel: posted it in a convo :P (3:06:27 AM) Noc: CCP nothin = favorite dev \o/ (3:08:38 AM) SILENTSAM69[ROFL]: so this happens with tonights downtime? (3:09:09 AM) Heinz_Doofenshertz: thats what he said
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:13:00 - [22] - Quote Same here. The day I leave for a three day business trip, they launch the Open Beta AND make it easier for no-lifers. I already have trouble finding 2 hours every day to play for the cap, and this screws me over even more. Way to go CCP... I hope you bring back the daily or weekly cap, or even better the rolling weekly cap. This way of doing it.... I'm gonna be behind even more in three days, and that against the people I will most likely face in corp battles. grumbles Just adding my voice to this complaint, since the more that say it, the bigger the chance CCP listens. So yeah, not a happy camper!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:13:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: ExRDV Pilot wrote: best idea ever actually. you get sp how much you play. problem solved. I think you mean problem created. Looks like we'll be seeing proto gear all over the place by the end of the month. What a shame. yea - I was rather enjoying the fact all of us were climbing this game together. Oh well.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:14:00 - [24] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: And what's worse, is they basically have to keep it that way. Letting all these people in, good luck trying to force them back into a reasonable rate of SP. Wtf, this has to be a joke, SP gains were almost perfect. Getting ready to be pissed. Nothing like being punished for having responsibilities outside of DUST THANK YOU ! Exactly what i keep saying to myself. how can they expect to go back to a SP cap system if it doesnt work out ? Bye BYe 90% of the newcomers. I already wrote articles to explain why the sp cap, how much it is, how to expand it etc... And on the D-freakin DAY they just dump it ? After 3 builds with a SP control System ? WHAT DA F.UCK
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:14:00 - [25] - Quote Ccp listen up, leave the cap where it is, it's At a comfortable level right now. Do not remove the cap!!!! If the cap is removed then it means those of us who have a life over those who don't.....will lose to a very unfair advantage. Despite the fact most of us have been loyal to dust for a long time, if given the ultimatum 'dust or a life' I know what most would choose, dont screw things up or you're gong to lose people....big time!
ExRDV Pilot Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 8	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:17:00 - [26] - Quote dust was never supposed to have cap afaik play more, get more SP, get more skills, progress faster. and finally all boosters work fine if you want to use thme.
Yay Adski Imperfects Negative-Feedback 133	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:18:00 - [27] - Quote Woohoo about damn time People still complain that someone will be ahead of them, play smarter
Umbat Boki Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:18:00 - [28] - Quote I hope it's trolling or you misunderstand something.
rpastry Carbon 7 28	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:19:00 - [29] - Quote slightly large WTF. casuals going 0/20 vs proto nolifers and getting 0 SP. way to kill it. im hoping it doesnt happen and its just one devs opinion. fingers crossed. or maybe they want to test the server for some dudes 23hrs of solid play.
Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 360	Posted - 2013.01.22 09:19:00 - [30] - Quote not trolling or mistaken, he explained it, but that quote says it all



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