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Lord Crases PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:52:00 - [451] - Quote You know what honestly is the biggest problem with a cap system period is? Is that if for any reason your needed on the field because your corp is pushing a major advancement in both space and the ground and you say: 'Sorry brah, I hit skill cap earlier today. Good luck though!' I can safely say it would really suck if everything is quite on the corp front lines for most of day, just running instant missions or the like and suddenly someone attacks your factions/corps planets. No that's not likely to happen now but EvE itself (as the universe not just the spaceship game) is based on the concept of building stufff, stealing, sand castle building/kicking ect. Why should you as the owner before to remain station-side till your needed? Why should you be penalized for protecting your assets because you hit a Cap? Furthermore as I have stated before and no one has provided even the slightest counter for is even if you have every skill in the game it doesn't make you and unstoppable death tank with legs. There are only two skills that boost your health. Some of the drop suits in later teirs do have increased health but nothing to the degree that and extra one bullet can't solve. All that a over abundance of skills do is allow you to more proficiently switch your rolls in combat IF you have too. Be that Heavy, Medic/repairs, sniper, assault grunt, tank driver, pilot or squad leader. Also CCP knows whats coming better then you. You can't fault every decision a MMO developer makes to pandering. Look to long term.
SENTINEL 78 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.01.23 16:56:00 - [452] - Quote ExRDV Pilot wrote: best idea ever actually. you get sp how much you play. problem solved. there goes a comment from one of those no lifers.... lol
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:11:00 - [453] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Go ahead CCP take the cap off but if it all goes wrong don't come crying to us asking for forgiveness. You see we are not EVE spaceship drivers, we are FPS's and guess what? We will have a new flavor of the month right around the corner to pick up where you failed. Do your posts ever stop being stupid? yea kinda makes me sad that hes arguing for the same thing I am. LOL You all are funny. You guys are getting all serious about a video game. Derp Derp Meh, cap or no cap its a game. Real life matters, not this fake imaginary life you two wish you lived in. Maybe one day when you two grow up and move out of Mommy and Daddy's house you will realize it. Reality check children, CCP will do what ever they want with this game. They will do whatever they feel they need to do to make $ off of you. Your self titled uber leet smart posts that you think are contributing to this argument mean no more nor less than mine. Get over yourselves and take a look in the mirror. Do you see a Dropsuit in the mirror? Nope you see a no real life uber leet failure. Get out of the house and find a real life and until you can accomplish that just stop.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:13:00 - [454] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Go ahead CCP take the cap off but if it all goes wrong don't come crying to us asking for forgiveness. You see we are not EVE spaceship drivers, we are FPS's and guess what? We will have a new flavor of the month right around the corner to pick up where you failed. Do your posts ever stop being stupid? yea kinda makes me sad that hes arguing for the same thing I am. LOL You all are funny. You guys are getting all serious about a video game. Derp Derp Meh, cap or no cap its a game. Real life matters, not this fake imaginary life you two wish you lived in. Maybe one day when you two grow up and move out of Mommy and Daddy's house you will realize it. Reality check children, CCP will do what ever they want with this game. They will do whatever they feel they need to do to make $ off of you. Your self titled uber leet smart posts that you think are contributing to this argument mean no more nor less than mine. Get over yourselves and take a look in the mirror. Do you see a Dropsuit in the mirror? Nope you see a no real life uber leet failure. Get out of the house and find a real life and until you can accomplish that just stop. Don't attempt to belittle others opinions/posts with such an idiotic comment. Take your own advice, but consider staying there.
SENTINEL 78 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:14:00 - [455] - Quote ExRDV Pilot wrote: dust was never supposed to have cap afaik play more, get more SP, get more skills, progress faster. and finally all boosters work fine if you want to use thme. ANOTHER NO-LIFER in this thread !!! .... lol Board: No-lifers 2 - 99999 ppl with real life and that like playing some FPS.
Volgair Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 200	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:16:00 - [456] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Go ahead CCP take the cap off but if it all goes wrong don't come crying to us asking for forgiveness. You see we are not EVE spaceship drivers, we are FPS's and guess what? We will have a new flavor of the month right around the corner to pick up where you failed. Do your posts ever stop being stupid? yea kinda makes me sad that hes arguing for the same thing I am. LOL You all are funny. You guys are getting all serious about a video game. Derp Derp Meh, cap or no cap its a game. Real life matters, not this fake imaginary life you two wish you lived in. Maybe one day when you two grow up and move out of Mommy and Daddy's house you will realize it. Reality check children, CCP will do what ever they want with this game. They will do whatever they feel they need to do to make $ off of you. Your self titled uber leet smart posts that you think are contributing to this argument mean no more nor less than mine. Get over yourselves and take a look in the mirror. Do you see a Dropsuit in the mirror? Nope you see a no real life uber leet failure. Get out of the house and find a real life and until you can accomplish that just stop. Don't attempt to belittle others opinions/posts with such an idiotic comment. Take your own advice, but consider staying there. I agree SoTa, but Please don't feed the trolls. doing so only creates a vortex of vacuous crap from which there is no excape.
SGT Garrisson On The Brink 60	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:26:00 - [457] - Quote i work a full week yet i can make the daily cap on my main dont always manage it on my alt so its not that bad im a casual gamer imo but 3 hours to hit the cap is a bit low dont always use boosters so i know im behind in sp yet if the sp i missed out on was put into a pool and there was a booster that increased how much sp i could gain instead of increasing the overall cap it would be another option 29k daily passive 36k active i think the numbers are with out boosters 32k passive 40k with boosters if there was an overall sp pool and a booster that didnt increase the pool but increased the amount u could gain per match i could have caught up to joe bloggs who hits the cap every week atm missed sp is lost so cant catch up boosters up the overall rate sp comes in and the overall total yet sp missed is still lost imo we need the sp pool system so that missed sp can be gain one way or another giving the other casual that dont hit the cap a way to catch up thats my 0.02 isk anyway
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:26:00 - [458] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Go ahead CCP take the cap off but if it all goes wrong don't come crying to us asking for forgiveness. You see we are not EVE spaceship drivers, we are FPS's and guess what? We will have a new flavor of the month right around the corner to pick up where you failed. Do your posts ever stop being stupid? yea kinda makes me sad that hes arguing for the same thing I am. LOL You all are funny. You guys are getting all serious about a video game. Derp Derp Meh, cap or no cap its a game. Real life matters, not this fake imaginary life you two wish you lived in. Maybe one day when you two grow up and move out of Mommy and Daddy's house you will realize it. Reality check children, CCP will do what ever they want with this game. They will do whatever they feel they need to do to make $ off of you. Your self titled uber leet smart posts that you think are contributing to this argument mean no more nor less than mine. Get over yourselves and take a look in the mirror. Do you see a Dropsuit in the mirror? Nope you see a no real life uber leet failure. Get out of the house and find a real life and until you can accomplish that just stop. Don't attempt to belittle others opinions/posts with such an idiotic comment. Take your own advice, but consider staying there. LOL You can not read apparently or do not comprehend what you are reading very well. They belittled my opinion first yet you get on here and tell me to not belittle others. LOL
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:28:00 - [459] - Quote You got called stupid. If that hurt you enough to post that rant then you're way too involved.
SENTINEL 78 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:35:00 - [460] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Drommy Hood wrote: To add to that idea slightly...... We could have two skill point counters. An attained skill points, and a Attainable skill points. That way you can see what the maximum amount of sp's you could have earned / could earn (should you put some hours in). gives you more incentive to play because you can see what you are missing, and more incentive to pay. With no cap aurum becomes less important. at the minute we use it to give us an edge over others, or simply to catch us up. With no sp cap then some people will end up so far ahead (maxed and specialised for eg) that the ohers then have no incentive to get that extra few % aurum gives. Because having 50% the effectiveness of the top sp players might aswell be the same as being 55% the effectiveness. You get the same outcome from both, CREAMED. So no point loosing good money doing it, and no point spending aurum if you know you can win easilly without it/you already have level 5 everything anyway. Here is your tinfoil hat: You will need it. Hokay newbies, scrubs, neckbeards and various hygeinically challenged denizens of New Eden, listen up! SP advantage only stays an advantage for so long. Yes the puds who play 24/7 will have more SP. But there's only so many skills directly applicable to each class of dropsuit. So they will have to sprad out and diversify or quit spending SP entirely. Their advantage will be mastery of more stuff. The equalizer of the newbie scrub is to pick a role and master it. so if you pick assault don't worry about skills irrelevant to assault until you're 100% proto. Why? because once you're there, the 24/7 scumbutt has no measurable advantage over you when you run an assault fit. Specialization is the equalizer, you can be the master of your chosen area, and there's nothing the hardcore neckbeards can do to keep you from getting there. Once you master even one dropsuit, you're set. You can **** off to your avatar all you want and feel happy that you can be competitive. the imperfect who plays 16 hours a day has wanked his way to the top. doesn't stop you from being able to gank him though. You're on his level because you specialized. No cause that 16h per day playing dude will just change to its fully speced anti-infantry loadout and crush your face. He'll probably reach 3 very deep specialization before the regular dude reaches one. Then you'll see corporations filled with Swiss Knife SP grinders able to do everything. Killing the heart of the game in which every corp has to balance the roles of its members. I also LOL at the "over 2 month SP dont matter any more". It's a pathetic excuse and totally wrong. After 2 month with a cap, you may start to explore new path for your character but you'll still have to chose wisely in order to complete your characters profile so it's even more efficient with that new specialization. If it will fit your corp needs. Also, and i'll say it once more : NEW SKILLS, NEW WEAPONS, NEW VEHICLES will enter the game. And a no-cap system will just favor the same dudes over and over and over again. They'll probably be able to afford saving SP and wait for new stuff so they can max them out the second they're added to the game. Very interesting and so much better indeed.... Any plead in favor of a loose SP growth is an obvious selfish reaction with absolutely NO OBJECTIVE view on the game's well fare and the overall community's best interest. Saying that the people who would want the cap to be removed are playing and thus not reacting on the forum is also a huge CON. I run a french corp and thus not much guys on my team come here to share their views on the debate. Among those, i have 3 guys that probably are in the TOP 100 of the guys who played Dust 514 the most in playtime. Guess what their opinion is about cap\no cap ? Well, they WANT THE CAP. Why ? Cause unlike many selfish prick out there, they know they would just end up being absolute death machine, do-it-all characters in less than 2 months and would lose the fun part of this game. Tweaking how cap works. Making it harder to reach so that players able to invest more time feel rewarded. Exploring solutions so late comers can grow at a faster pace. Those are the solutions ! Man you're a poet to me... i couldn't say it any better :D cheers.

Mirana Cheshire Forgotten Militia 20	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:36:00 - [461] - Quote as I said in another thread, a sp cap will just make newer players even harder to catch up to the older ones I think the "more you play = the more sp you gain" is fair enough not saying the current sp system is good but currently a person playing 4 hours a day gains the same as someone who plays 2 hours a day to prevent day 1 players leaping light years ahead, just reduce the sp gain when you reach every 5M sp or so
BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2013.01.23 17:38:00 - [462] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: You got called stupid. If that hurt you enough to post that rant then you're way too involved. Look in the mirror bub. What color is the dropsuit that you are wearing? LOL Kinda sad that you feel as though you have to stick up for your pals.
SENTINEL 78 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:04:00 - [463] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: fred orpaul wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Go ahead CCP take the cap off but if it all goes wrong don't come crying to us asking for forgiveness. You see we are not EVE spaceship drivers, we are FPS's and guess what? We will have a new flavor of the month right around the corner to pick up where you failed. Do your posts ever stop being stupid? yea kinda makes me sad that hes arguing for the same thing I am. LOL You all are funny. You guys are getting all serious about a video game. Derp Derp Meh, cap or no cap its a game. Real life matters, not this fake imaginary life you two wish you lived in. Maybe one day when you two grow up and move out of Mommy and Daddy's house you will realize it. Reality check children, CCP will do what ever they want with this game. They will do whatever they feel they need to do to make $ off of you. Your self titled uber leet smart posts that you think are contributing to this argument mean no more nor less than mine. Get over yourselves and take a look in the mirror. Do you see a Dropsuit in the mirror? Nope you see a no real life uber leet failure. Get out of the house and find a real life and until you can accomplish that just stop. "Do you see a Dropsuit in the mirror?" AHAHAHAHAH..... I just loved that one.... AHAHAHAHAH
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:16:00 - [464] - Quote Simply put, congrats CCP you have distracted the masses from what is equally as important. Being able to play with more than 3 of the people on a maxed out PSN/SEN friends list. Being able to play an entire match, while not being ejected when the enemy has 2 bars left on their MCC or 2 clones left in the hopper. (For no known reason, why doesn't the system say something like connection to host has been lost or generate some sort of error code for us to report to you in order to help you fix it.....kinda like 8002A203... the psn/sen maintenance error I got for 2 days) Matchmaking that is nothing more than a video game version of the HAZING ritual.... almost as evil as the hazing college marching band members endure (watch real sports tv show clip, it is messed up) Am I selfish, you betcha. But do I have any answers, no. What I do think from my own point of view though, is that in a 6 month or Year period - if I am still capped I will be disappointed. Call it the Basic Training Period, in that time you will have gotten most of the new players you are going to get, the ones that come afterwards will just have to suffer or join a corp that can protect them a little. I will ask one question, the SP I should have earned but lose to the CAP, where does it go?
Christ0pher Blair Deep Space Republic 34	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:16:00 - [465] - Quote Yay Adski wrote: Woohoo about damn time People still complain that someone will be ahead of them, play smarter This is a sad and selfish reply.. (unless it was sarcastic)
Lord Crases PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:21:00 - [466] - Quote Why is no one addressing the EvE(ness) of the game hmm?
Shyeer Alvarin Dead Six Initiative 45	Posted - 2013.01.23 18:59:00 - [467] - Quote Lord Crases wrote: Why is no one addressing the EvE(ness) of the game hmm? Because it's already everyone vs everyone right now. Granted, it feels like it's a little more "Everyone vs Everyone vs CCP" at the moment.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.23 19:14:00 - [468] - Quote there's a lot of derp going on here guys. Stop. take a breath. Chill. Now. look carefully at the Skill list we have. We do not have much more than a year worth of skills at the current cap. We've got the bare minimum to make a functional CCP game. there's going to be a lot more options than "caldari assault suit," and my point on specialization stands because the anti-infantry fit? All of the fits are infantry-killers, HELLO! So you specialize into assault and get yer shield skills and all your weapons and he busts out his heavy with the HMG, you hit him with a laser and he melts, he swaps to scout-shotty you merely change to mass driver and blap him. He goes assault and you're on equal footing. All without you changing from an assault suit. Just varying your fits. even if CCP quintuples the skill list, we have the meat and potatoes of a solid game. everything you need to be able to slam people is here, and you don't even need all of the skills available to be a raging badass in the game. So the tinfoil hats are over there, take one and pass it on. And no, I think that there should be a cap, just not this daily derp solution we have now.
Lord Crases PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2013.01.23 19:45:00 - [469] - Quote BigussDikkuss wrote: Lord Crases wrote: BigussDikkuss wrote: Lord Crases wrote: BigussDikkuss wrote: Removing the SP Cap is a STUPID STUPID STUPID idea. Did I voice my opinion clearly enough? How about this: when the so called "no lifers" create godlike players decked out in Proto gear with maxed weapon skills and are wiping the floor with me, I'll move on to another game and leave Dust 514 behind in the...huh-huh...."dust". And if the counter plan to that is to reduce the effectiveness of the gear and make it all just 1% better than your basic Militia loadouts, well guess what? That is a STUPID STUPID STUPID idea too. Yes because the best gear in the game saves you from a shotgun blast to the head right? Your point is an instanced detail and has no place in my argument. Furthermore on the subject, let me say this; I will NOT BE PURCHASING ANY AURUM in this game if this idea is implemented. If the end goal of CCP is to create a game that entices players to spend money for in game items and skill points, removing the skill point cap and flat-lining all the items makes advancing my character or having "good loot" a moot point. No its not instanced. A fully decked out skilled player merely has enough health to claim he is still alive. They get an edge but can die just as easily. Its an fps for Christs sake people died for stupider reasons. So you have to fire 1 or two more bullets. Big whoop. The point still stands that head shots still 1 shot, OBs still one shot, grenades still one shot and lastly tanks still one shot. Learn to aim, learn to relay hard targets to your heavy arms teammates and learn to coordinate effort. Yes, your point is STILL instanced. Since you don't get it, let me explain without a wall of text. Better gear, more armor, more damage with weapons - all derived from SP gain - have far more over reaching benefits than the random (or rare if you prefer) headshot. In simple terms, the guy with the decked out gear is going to do more damage, more often than the guy shooting him in the head. (Please. This is not an invitation for you to say how great you are, how well you aim and that every shot you make is a headshot. ) Also, to correct you, grenades are NOT automatic one hit kills. Let me explain it to you in a way you will understand without a wall of text. The benefits of increased health and damage is 'marginally insignificant'. You have 1 skill that's boost damage and 2 that boost health and only by a small percent. Do YOU understand now? That small percent is not going to turn anybody into an unstoppable force. It helps grant you but not to the degree you play it off.
WASTED MERC The Southern Legion 4	Posted - 2013.02.06 12:21:00 - [470] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Primary rewards should be the accomplishments of your corp and you in the Eve universe. should be, but if its so important how come we see no accomplishment of our activities. no matter if the team wins or looses as far as i can tell its makes absolutely no difference to anything. Not even a simple, total map score count, thinking about that... for which side, they both seem identical. Both sides have the exact same goal. There is no "sides" that have any distinct goal at all. Both goals apply to both sides. Infact the whole thing is so undirectional i have zero choice in where i fight, on what side i fight. About the only choice I have is the type of fight or a few squad mates if i join a corp and if i then join a squad

TokeySmugBoat NECROMONGER'S 1	Posted - 2013.02.10 03:19:00 - [471] - Quote CCP, you need to make money. My question is why would I buy AUR to use for boosters if there's a cap on how many SP I can get? The answer is, I won't. There would be no reason for me to. Of course people who play more than others will have more SP. if its their choice to spend all day playing then why not let them have their fancy proto gear? It won't offend me when they have gear and skills much better than my own, just like in EvE I understand that the people who have put the most time into the game will be the ones who are the best. When you are new in EvE you can't expect to defeat most people, you don't have the money or skills. Why does Dust need to be different?
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.02.10 03:30:00 - [472] - Quote 1 sp for 1 wp would work nicely.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.10 03:44:00 - [473] - Quote Proto-dropsuit Imperfects, Proto-dropsuit Imperfects everywhere...
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.10 03:45:00 - [474] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Proto-dropsuit Imperfects, Proto-dropsuit Imperfects everywhere... Oops.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 244	Posted - 2013.02.10 03:47:00 - [475] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Proto-dropsuit Imperfects, Proto-dropsuit Imperfects everywhere... Oops. Add the little face in there for me.
Big miku Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 91	Posted - 2013.02.10 03:52:00 - [476] - Quote EXCELLENT NEWS! This will work wonders for my plan of paying my maid to run around all day to farm SP.
Big miku Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 91	Posted - 2013.02.10 04:00:00 - [477] - Quote TokeySmugBoat wrote: CCP, you need to make money. My question is why would I buy AUR to use for boosters if there's a cap on how many SP I can get? The answer is, I won't. There would be no reason for me to. This, You should be able to deactivate your boosters when you cap out.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 175	Posted - 2013.02.10 05:45:00 - [478] - Quote Wow. Hope this never happens.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.02.10 06:21:00 - [479] - Quote Facepalm.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.02.10 09:09:00 - [480] - Quote threadomancy is illegal in New Eden



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