And what's worse, is they basically have to keep it that way. Letting all these people in, good luck trying to force them back into a reasonable rate of SP.

Wtf, this has to be a joke, SP gains were almost perfect. Getting ready to be pissed.

Nothing like being punished for having responsibilities outside of DUST

The game would die near instantly if that was the case. CCP surely has more brains that this.

No life 24/7 players in top 10 leaderboards after 11 days have already gotten more kills than I did in 2-1/2 months of daily playing at 3-5 hours.

I would like to explain the reasons on why we are testing the removal of the SP cap and keep you all better informed.

The development team has been listening intently to the tons of feedback from you guys on the skill system, in particular the current skill cap implementation.

Our original aims with the skill cap were to ensure players progressed through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players. After trying out a couple of different approaches, none of which were satisfactory, we have realized that the skill cap introduces too many other unacceptable compromises and we have decided to take a leaf out of AlexanderGÇÖs book and just cut the Gordian knot and remove the skill cap altogether. Removing the skill cap opens us up to the risk of not meeting the aims stated above, so we have tuned down reward levels a little to reduce that risk.

We believe that these changes will go a long way towards alleviating the problems that you guys have been drawing to our attention, but we will continue to listen to your feedback, monitor progression data and make further tweaks as necessary.

Finally, we are not removing the SP cap today, and will allow time for the community to speak their minds on this first.

We look forward to hearing from you!

Honestly, I dont see the problem.

In a years time you may have 20m SP. Some stating 0 Sp. They will never catch up.

Same is true of the uncapped system.

After your base character is built the extra SP will just let you play the game in different ways. It wont let you be less competitive.

People wont b getting 'ahead' of you. People with more SP will just be able to diversify more.

I wont be grinding 24/7. But I may buy a booster for a weekend or something now, which I would never have done. As at the moment the only thing I would pay for this game is the UVT.

You know, I find it kinda funni. I think ppl that want a roll over cap just don't want to be left behind in the dust because they only have weekends to grind, and thats what they'll do......grind the hell outa the weekends, honestly those ppl are prob worse then the so called "basement dwellers" cuz they'll wait for the last day of the rollover and grind away.....totally taking from the casual players, and why shouldn't we be rewarded for our effort in game? aka amount of war points we get, how good we did in the game? so everyone thats wanting some form of cap heres my question, are you wanting this to simply be able to keep up with the rest of the community because you won't earn enough war points in matches to stay ahead? Obviously your going to grind the roll over sp at some point in time right? if your only getting 200 WP per game why the douche should you be able to keep up with me at 1500+ WP per match? you don't have to be good at this game for WP's so thats not it, and I understand ppl have things to do during the most part of the day, but what is this gunna change? since before the wipe I started playing again a week before the wipe, when everyone had their proto gear ect, and I STILL went 25-3 ect. STILL got tons of WP no matter what level of suits you had on the field......so why do you find it so unfair because you can't keep up or get the points? idk wierd, I'd rather get what I earned instead of being equal and capping out with some of you fools at the same level, aka my lil bro may get.....rarly heimdallr69 say 800 wp's and i get 1900 wp's but we get the same sp return..........so I did over double the WP work for the team to win, but I should be punished because the QQ's wouldn't be able to catch up. pfff.

I agree with you about choosing your skill wisely. And I feel really sorry for a lot of people who are going to put SP all over the place like I did when I first joined, or to try things out and there is no reset. Glad I was in a beta to be reset and try stuff out. As you know Corps will pick people on how they ant to specialise in the game. This wont change

But I still think that after 6 months the SP cap or no cap it shouldn't really matter too much to us. The longest we had before a reset was what just under 2 months? And a base character could easily be built in that time. What will it be like in 6 months?

I just dont think we will get left behind? Its about diversification.

CCP can never win this debate. Hence why I reckon they decide to cut the 'gordian knot'.

Sorry bro, but that's not true. I can play a lot of hours each day. Cazaderon and a lot of other players I see not wanting this change also play a lot.


So no SP cap would benefit us, actually. We would have an advantage over people that can't play as much. We don't want this change because we think it would be bad for the game, not because we think it would be bad for us.






You have a point in that people will always get ahead. My concern is that a lot of people will get too far ahead too soon, when we still don't have a playerbase big enough to endure it. Dust needs a big playerbase to survive.

Open beta starts today, a lot of newbies are coming to Dust. When those newbies start leaving Dust in a month because they can't keep up with all the protogear and protovehicles thrown at them, we are not only losing those players. We are losing any other player they know through bad press and word of mouth.


If we had a system to separate new players implemented (like hisec, lowsec, nulsec); maybe I would not dislike the no sp cap idea so much. But as it is, I think it is a very bad idea.

It's in Beta. We are not playing the live game yet. So quit you whining and get into the spirit of playing a Beta.

I wouldn't mind a removal of the SP cap, or make it very high. Sure, some people will start to pull ahead, but this game isn't to dominated by gear as much as tactics and team play. I fear getting blueberries on my team far more than running into one or two geared out people.

You seem to be making a lot of mistakes today. First the $10 each Militia items; then the removal of SP caps so basement dwellers can cap their SP within 6 months to a year, instead of the 5 it's supposed to take.

Honestly, I'm not happy with the direction Dust is taking. I might have spent money to get things here and there before, but this change and that other mean I will likely consign it to the trash bin. You can make gameplay as good as you want; no amount of design is going to make it worth playing with this sort of design.

This was an incredibly ignorant statement. You've got a lot of balls to say others have made poor choices. Life doesn't always give you what you want even when you deserve it.

Personally I hated the daily cap, & I thought most people here did too. But after reading this, I guess not. I'm not saying that removing the cap was the answer, a weekly or monthly rolling cap would make more sense. The daily cap was punishing people who did not play everyday. I actually think it's better to let the no-lifers run wild, then to punish the people with real lives, just to keep them in check. People who play all day everyday, should have an advantage over the guy who plays 1-2 days a week. Life isn't fair, deal with it.

You think people against the cap are in the minority? Affraid the forum isn't exactly a true representation.

The people who do want the cap because they can't play the game during the day can access this forum. So here they are complaining to keep the SP cap. Suprise, Suprise. Tell me, are you buying your AUR though the forum as well?

The people who want the SP cap removed are out there playing the game rather than listening to this BS.

Here is your tinfoil hat: You will need it.

Hokay newbies, scrubs, neckbeards and various hygeinically challenged denizens of New Eden, listen up!

SP advantage only stays an advantage for so long. Yes the puds who play 24/7 will have more SP. But there's only so many skills directly applicable to each class of dropsuit. So they will have to sprad out and diversify or quit spending SP entirely. Their advantage will be mastery of more stuff.

The equalizer of the newbie scrub is to pick a role and master it. so if you pick assault don't worry about skills irrelevant to assault until you're 100% proto. Why? because once you're there, the 24/7 scumbutt has no measurable advantage over you when you run an assault fit.

Specialization is the equalizer, you can be the master of your chosen area, and there's nothing the hardcore neckbeards can do to keep you from getting there.

Once you master even one dropsuit, you're set. You can **** off to your avatar all you want and feel happy that you can be competitive.

the imperfect who plays 16 hours a day has wanked his way to the top. doesn't stop you from being able to gank him though.

You're on his level because you specialized.