After thinking about this for some time I decided that I agree with CCPs decision. It makes complete sense. Initially I hated the idea but in reality this is a free to play game. Free to play games are known for being games where "no lifers" can spend enough time on the game to overcome the players who decide to spend money in the game to get ahead......and the players who do both blast way ahead of both other kinds of players. This will always be true of a free to play game that has microtransactions. The pay aspect is there for those who want to spend less time in the game but keep up with the "no lifers"....on top of using real money to purchase other items to pimp out your character. Basically CCP has made the booster relevant again.....and since most of their money will likely come from players purchasing boosters.....this makes perfect sense.


I thought about what others stated regarding getting extra SP for not playing for a period and that sounds fine.....only they already have that set up and its called the booster. Not everyone will choose to purchase a booster and if you dont then you made a choice to sacrifice the ability to keep up with no lifers or those who purchase boosters for the ability to continue to play for free. This is a perfectly reasonable model for this game and probably the only way they will be able to make at least enough money to earn a small profit and thus keep the doors open on this game.


In summary......this despite my initial reservations is truly a good idea and probably what should be done. Besides once you hit about 6-7 million SP you have specced pretty far into your chosen field and additional SP only allows you to broaden your skills to allow you to do whatever you want.

If you are intent to keep the "NO-SP-CAP", how about having a system that allows a player to gain bonus percentage for the number of days that player hasnt played?

That way a player who wasn't able to log in for a week can catch up with someone whos played the whole week.

Finally a smart person! This is a good idea so deal with it. SP doesn't equal skil. Once you get 5-8 million you are set the rest is just candy sp for random fun

Which in it's own right is depressing, if we boil down every role specialization to the readers digest version this game looses a large portion of what would have made it stand alone in this over simplified market. Not only am i for a cap, I think CCP should elaborate roll bonuses on existing skills to extend any one specialization from 4-8 months to about 14 months...

How about you remove SP as a reward all together?

Use EVE's skill system, and give us implants.

Removing the SP Cap is a STUPID STUPID STUPID idea.

Did I voice my opinion clearly enough?

How about this: when the so called "no lifers" create godlike players decked out in Proto gear with maxed weapon skills and are wiping the floor with me, I'll move on to another game and leave Dust 514 behind in the...huh-huh...."dust".

And if the counter plan to that is to reduce the effectiveness of the gear and make it all just 1% better than your basic Militia loadouts, well guess what? That is a STUPID STUPID STUPID idea too.

This is a step in the right direction! In the long term sp differences between players will mean nothing! They will always add more skills books. You are talking from an mmo stand point which would be good on PC but never live on a console game. Console gamers are way different from of gamers and it seems like CCP has started to realize it

you will not get many fps players then.......

Our original aims with the skill cap were to ensure players progressed through the skill tree at a steady pace, to dis-incentivize 24/7 grinding and to maintain a manageable gap between casual and hardcore players. After trying out a couple of different approaches, none of which were satisfactory, we have realized that the skill cap introduces too many other unacceptable compromises and we have decided to take a leaf out of AlexanderGÇÖs book and just cut the Gordian knot and remove the skill cap altogether. Removing the skill cap opens us up to the risk of not meeting the aims stated above, so we have tuned down reward levels a little to reduce that risk.

Yes because the best gear in the game saves you from a shotgun blast to the head right?

Not going to read the entire thread need cliff notes. Somebody hook me up.

Not going to read the entire thread need cliff notes. Somebody hook me up.

Massive QQ cause sp cap is gone tomorrow. Forum warriors want to stop no lifers with a cap

Almost everyone posting is QQ over no SP cap.

Speaking personally read my post on page 14 ......I think this sums up the correct thought process pretty well on why there should not be an SP cap.....however noone obviously is listening to what anyone else says and is just afraid that "no lifers" will blast too far ahead of them. However its only the "no lifers" with plenty of money to buy boosters who will blast way ahead of people....the no lifers with no money will probably just keep up with the people who play normally with boosters....and those who play for free and have a life will get left behind.....

However thats only for the first 7-8 million SP after that your pretty specialized in your field it just took you a bit longer to get there.



But the QQ will continue until either people realize its not going to change at all or CCP decides to wipe everyones tears and reinstate a SP cap.


BTW (Imperfects know this but for all others) I am NOT a no lifer and I also dont have any boosters which means I know i will probably be left in the dust for the first 7-8 million SP...but I am ok with that. Frankly even with my cheaper fittings I will still be able to pull out good games I just cant run around like I own the place I will have to be more careful and have backup until I get my specialization done.

Almost everyone posting is QQ over no SP cap.

Speaking personally read my post on page 14 ......I think this sums up the correct thought process pretty well on why there should not be an SP cap......

All actions have repercussions. You can't just eliminate the cap and declare them gone.

There will ALWAYS be a significant difference between players, at least an order of magnitude, generally two. There are players getting 3,000 WP and 50 WP in each match.

CCP isn't really willing to just cut the knot or they wouldn't be lowering the SP gain per WP. They don't want to throw the door wide open for the SP fanatics to rush through.

The WP/SP curb is the new throttle that replaces the cap throttle.

So you have to take a look at what effects THAT new throttle will have, and it isn't pretty.

The experienced players will continue to receive the majority of WP's in each match and leave the lower level players to gain WP/SP at a rate 1-2 orders of magnitude less. So if the top earners are kept to a "reasonable" SP gain (as defined by CCP), the lower earners will be 1-2 orders of magnitude BELOW a reasonable rate.

That low earning population is going to include 90% of all new players and most will lose patience with the glacial pace of progression. They won't be willing or able to put in 10 to 100 times the hours of the top earners to obtain a reasonable progression.


Bottom line:
The WP/SP curb is a regressive tax on new players that is only required because of the cap removal, and it will kill interest in the game.

Massive QQ cause sp cap is gone tomorrow. Forum warriors want to stop no lifers with a cap

Your point is an instanced detail and has no place in my argument.

Furthermore on the subject, let me say this;

I will NOT BE PURCHASING ANY AURUM in this game if this idea is implemented. If the end goal of CCP is to create a game that entices players to spend money for in game items and skill points, removing the skill point cap and flat-lining all the items makes advancing my character or having "good loot" a moot point.

Sad sub class titles, but yeah. that's effectively whats going on here.

IE players who suck at games will have a hard time gaining as much SP as players who are usually an average or above average gamer.

i dont want to stop no lifers with a cap
i want my sp
1 wp = 1 sp is too low

it can earn you 300k in 10 days
you play so much
I only 93k
you want this difference?
give me a chance to earn points as now
give them the opportunity to grind without cap