Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaining about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3.

For starters, it would require a commitment to teamwork between the two instead of just letting everyone do it. And since there wouldn't be anything in it for the Pilot SP-wise...
And at the very least it gets one more person off the field of play for their side.
Of course, you would also have to be unable to spawn LAVs and Tanks up there too, or you're just trading the problem of one hard to reach turret for another that's an even smaller target.

I do fight back against tower gunners. I take my Forge Gun to them as best I can. But the ability to do this offers too many advantages due to the game's current limitations.
They can be quite difficult to see at all, let alone aim at, due to the bright lights on the tower fronts.
In the overview map they blend almost perfectly with the towers in the top down view, though this is somewhat countered because you can see a constant spray of missiles.
If parked sufficiently back can avoid being marked altogether.
Worst of all, if you're not close enough to the tower they're perched on they are completely invisible, as in do not load to be seen.

"Get your own and knock it down" isn't always viable either since they will generally have plenty of time to shoot you before you can get to them. If you want to fly up and shoot it down, then that requires a pilot and a gunner, two people to their one. And with the current state of communication being so hit or miss, simply communicating what needs done can be impossible.

It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off

The only problem with it is people are doing it for free. Remove the militia dropships and tanks.

It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off

Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer?

I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players.

If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's.

And that would solve what exactly?

It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off

That's idiotic. Just because someone isn't sitting in the driver seat of a car doesn't mean the car is turned off.

But really, this isn't hard to counter if you just take the time to fly up there and deal with it.

Pilot can't shoot

So if I'm the pilot and I jump out it should hover not go powerless and crash

only bad players complain about other players who think outside the box.

So if I'm the pilot and I jump out it should hover not go powerless and crash

It's just a cheap tactic I can get my ship and crash into them but I'd rather try to get it fixed so I don't have to bother with the scrub from above

It's not cheap at all. You only think it's cheap because you died by it. Adapt or die.

Yes but they can rep shields and armor making it harder to deal with so one reps the dropship while the other shoot's

This just makes things worse.

It's just a cheap tactic I can get my ship and crash into them but I'd rather try to get it fixed so I don't have to bother with the scrub from above

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

Look man having a pilot in the ship to power the weapons will most likely do away with the scrub camping in his nest cuz a pilot more than likely wont just sit in one place

It's just a cheap tactic I can get my ship and crash into them but I'd rather try to get it fixed so I don't have to bother with the scrub from above

Step 1: Get a militia heavy suit
Step 2: Invest a small amount of SP to use Forge Guns
Step 3: Buy a Forge Gun and equip it to the Heavy Suit
Step 4: Suit up and blow the ship up

So if I'm the pilot and I jump out it should hover not go powerless and crash

Can we get a fix for this soon...

Basically this thread's tldr is "People are doing things that are causing my team to get blown up. I don't want to actually go stop them from doing this, so just don't let them do it at all."

Welcome to the sandbox people, CCP loves when people do dirty underhanded **** to win. Complain all you want, they'll just sit back, laugh, and tell you to adapt.

or just use the militia swarm launcher. It really is that easy.

Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that

Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that

Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels?

Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels?

Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer?

I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players.

If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's.

And that would solve what exactly?

How is this a glitch?

If its a problem, get into a dropship and go take care of the problem yourself.

Yes I am.

Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer?

I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players.

If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's.

And that would solve what exactly?

Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaint about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3.

dumbest comment I've seen today...

They want KB+M cause they are used to it. Don't make up some reason they want it when you have no clue why most do.

And it can be reached by a dropship. just gotta slowboat up to that level.

Not a glitch. Glitch would be getting in side the build to shoot out from it and getting kills while not being able to be hit.

Can we get a fix for this soon...

Yes I am talking about the giant towers surrounding the map.

Noteworthy posts:

This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past.

Ya, definitely not a glitch...

1. I played a match last weekend where the lack of M+KB support was their rationale for hiding in drop ships on the tower

2. Drop ships shouldn't be able creep up to that level. They probably weren't intended to even fly on top of the MCC

3. It's a glitch, because it can't be reached when flying the dropship as intended or at conventional levels for that matter.

This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past.

Ya, definitely not a glitch...

1. I played a match last weekend where the lack of M+KB support was their rationale for hiding in drop ships on the tower

2. Drop ships shouldn't be able creep up to that level. They probably weren't intended to even fly on top of the MCC

3. It's a glitch, because it can't be reached when flying the dropship as intended or at conventional levels for that matter.

cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit

cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit

This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past.

Ya, definitely not a glitch...

cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit

It happens in ALL games. Find a way to counter it, avoid it or ignore it. But just deal with it.

Thanks for legitimizing spawn camping broksi

Next people will be QQing that you can fly on the MCC. It's not a glitch. It's rather easy to fly up there and get to it. I'm sure if CCP found it a problem to fly so high they would have added a height limit to the game that would stop you before you could fly on top of the MCC and land on it.

Forge Gun can easily hit that then.

Try it out instead of complaining while you only use your "gun game"

so lets all cry to the dev's instead of being creative and thinking of ways to counter it.

This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past.

Ya, definitely not a glitch...

Well since you can, it is not a glitch. I dont think the lock range of a Swarm launcher would determine a glitch though.

If a weapon can shoot down from up there, a weapon can shoot up there from the ground.

Ok so i have just sat on the tower for 3 games in a row ok yes i got a excellent K/D

that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either?

that is a man using his head and not thinking like a cannon fodder grunt. just because someone is smart enough to do something you dont see in other games dosent make it wrong. its things like this that will make this game shine so much brighter than the standard cookie cutter fps

There you have it. Even with the so called "counters" to this exploit, abusers are still able pull excellent scores doing absolutely nothing but spamming rockets at the letters all game.

that is a man using his head and not thinking like a cannon fodder grunt. just because someone is smart enough to do something you dont see in other games dosent make it wrong. its things like this that will make this game shine so much brighter than the standard cookie cutter fps

It's funny how people support obvious problems with this game and expect you to adapt and it's just a guess but I bet it's only the EVE guys that support this garbage.

Cause i've played EVE not even a year yet means i'm one of those EVE guys?

I'm for a game that makes you THINK for once.

The fact i play EVE has NOTHING to do with it.

hey it wasnt me . dont start being a **** because i showed you how you were wrong

Just thought I would throw this out there for all of those guys saying "a dropship can't fly that high"...

It can, easily and with no effort. You guys do realize that all the buttons on the dualshock (save the start/select and L3/R3) are analogue. Now this doesn't mean much with most of the functions on this game, but as it pertains to the dropship the L1 button is for the altitude thrusters... the harder you push it, the faster and higher the ship can climb.

how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?

cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not .

dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit .

what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it.

cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not .

dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit .

what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it.

cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not .

i see no point in continuing this conversation . you seem to have come to a DISCUSSION FORUM just to rage about something you dont like because you couldnt beat it and dont like it .. you dont want to learn how to be better or work out a way to beat it.. and your mind is obviously not open to any viewpoint but your own with regard to it not being some game breaking exploit.

all i can suggest for you is this ..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488090_391240044273276_24262180_n.jpg

dont know who said they couldn't fly that high because obviously they can maybe they meant to say they shouldn't fly that high.

you keep telling yourself that

i hold the world record in kills in a game on ghost recon and have been among the best in every shooter ive played.

dont mistake a complaint of imbalance as weakness, your a fool to think that.

This problem actually stems mostly from the new turret radius on drop ships. Now, they can shoot in basically any direction, and it's simply too powerful for a dropship. Before, it was far too restricting. Now, it's far too liberal. We need to find that happy medium.

Also, render distances need a srs buff.

say's the guy that never leaves his tank lol


that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either?


the best part was when I realized it was you and drove it off the roof and hopped out

it's not an exploit, so how come the dev's decided not to showcase this ability in any of the promotional video's?

are they saving it for near release for some super kick ass lame's that want a game they can park a tank in the sky and get easy kills?

Ok really? Tanks can't aim down. Dropships can get up, and in the promotional videos, they show dropships flying, and it is through this flying that you reach the tower. Yes it is annoying, but the solution would be to limit militia dropships, or to make it a lower flight ceiling, which sucks.

I am all for fixing the vehicles on those really high towers. What I am not for is game mechanics limiting game play freedom.

An easy fix that would not hurt game play freedom would be to make the top of the structure not allow you to park. Have it sloped and make you slide off.

There are many ways to counter it though. If you counter it, you win. If you do not, then you can QQ more.

What I am not for is game mechanics limiting game play freedom..

Being able to actually call vehicles up there is a bug, though. It's intended for them to be marked as 'Location Inaccesible" and deny RDV requests.

No, it wasn't you that was saying that. It was protoman. I think he's under the impression that dropships can't fly that high because most people just lightly hold down the L1 button when flying the dropship, and when you do that, you don't gain the altitiude to get to the height of the tower. I was just pointing it out that it was easy to do, and that I've taken a dropship that high. The last time I did was to ram the dropship that was spamming missiles down on my team, except he saw me coming, flew circles around me, and I died.

lower the flight ceiling, it's too much of a pain to go up there and bump them down. i went through 5 drop ships in one match just to keep them off of those towers.

Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground.

without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection

Right its dumb isn't it but this is exactly what some retards want you to keep doing instead of fixing the problem.

Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground.

don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks

Most of the spawns that get blowen up are from people using missle installation or tanks not swarm launchers

You cant kill foot soilder up there while doing this,unless your a sniper but then you wont be able to blow up spawns...

obviously you dont know what the **** your talking about and who said anything about swarm launchers

you took your foot off the hover peddle. That does not mean the ship just turns off.

get into a car, speed down a highway, then jump out. The car is still on and it's still driving, but it's slowly slowing down to a cruse /or a stop. It will not turn off until the battery dies.

I lose 75,000 isk every time I die. Some nub sitting in an overpowered spot shouldn't be able to kill me tbqh.

oh god I love that example

Hai Guyz, People are shooting me with stuffz, plzfixktnkxz

Seriously?

It's not a glitch. Your team just needs to learn how to work together. Get in a drop ship and take the buggers out. Or get a sniper to do it. Or stay under cover. Or get out of range. Or get there first.

Or stand at the base of the tower sobbing uncontrollably and begging them to come down and play fair.

I lose 75,000 isk every time I die. Some nub sitting in an overpowered spot shouldn't be able to kill me tbqh.

You eve guys get so mad about stuff it's funny it's a simple request just cuz you need to be able to get on top of towered to get kills you shouldnt get upset because people want to take your bread and butter away

yeah the whole dropship missle rain thing is pretty annoying, i just get my own ship and fly up and missle him/her or slam into them knocking them off

i have done thing myself may times .. if you manage to knock them off and land you can take the spot and shoot them down with your turrets as they are falling.. and franticly seat switching to find the pilot seat.

you dont even need a dropship . the dropships are stupid fragile . you can kill them from the ground fairly easily. just keep blowing them up . it takes time to get back there and you get points for it.

and that is what i have a problem with .. all the people on here crying nerf instead of just getting on with blowing them up . i mean really . its not hard.. kill them enough times and they stop going back .. and if they dont stop .. just consider them free points

Tired of going up there and dealing with them that is all can't enjoy the game

i would say that thats the enemy being pretty effective then. if you are so demoralised as to stop trying they have won.

you should keep in mind during all this testing what the game WILL BE not what it is now.. its a war . a real persistant war . its not cod , battlefield , crysis or killzone . at the end of the match the world has changed its not like it resets and you instantly do it again .. ( atm it does .. but when we get the eve connection it wont) look at the bigger picture and think about it . freedom to outsmart / outmanuver the enemy will be essential to keeping this game fresh and fun in the long term

2. Drop ships shouldn't be able creep up to that level. They probably weren't intended to even fly on top of the MCC

3. It's a glitch, because it can't be reached when flying the dropship as intended or at conventional levels for that matter.

The roof is obviously not made to be stood upon because you stand on invisible floors.

It's not like you can just fly straight up and land on it from any direction, you have to shimmy up the rear pipes and, ummm... "Glitch" your way up there.

OMG is this thread still going...... its been up for almost 12hours and still going strong.....

Unless CCP tell us its a glitch its NOT a glitch.....

If you press L1 hard it flys up there on its own without rocking the dropship thus making it NOT a glitch.

Come on people just get out your forge gun 2 shots and its dead........ maybe enjoy the fact there's one less player on the field to defend/attack the objective's.....

Im not saying it dosnt **** me off as it does when you die randomly from the missile turret but then you need to deal with them....... What about if your facing a tank what do you do????? you either run away, start shooting it in the hope you kill it before it kill's you, or you die......

Its not hard to take a free dropship up there ram them off or even have a gunner and get him to destroy the dropship....
Also if you land on the tower get out of your dropship shoot the guy using the turret via the side of the dropship you get a kill and an easy hack at the same time.......

Learn to adapt to the game and how people are going to play it.

Yes i have been up on the tower and i admit its a bit of fun a break from dying alot [maybe just me] but it gets boring after a while and you start to lose your skill with a weapon. i sat up there for 2 games on the 3rd i started to use my gun and i couldnt hit the broad side of a barn.

Plus for all the people moaning about this whats going to happen when EVE start orbital strikes bombardments ect....... Are you all going to moan then...... think of this dropship as a practice orbital strike look up and round corners....

Its not COD remember we actualy need teamwork and to check our corners....

Anyway PLEASE find something new to talk about and make it a bit constructive.....

Sorry, but it's a glitch. Anyone saying otherwise is clueless.
The roof is obviously not made to be stood upon because you stand on invisible floors. It's not like you can just fly straight up and land on it from any direction, you have to shimmy up the rear pipes and, ummm... "Glitch" your way up there.

didn't read cuz its probably been said tbqh

well i just called a dropship and flew up directly from the defenders main spawn and hovered around the battlefield well above the MCC nm the damn towers and will gladly reproduce this for anyone else thats 2 stupid tp get a free dropship and do it themselves

this is what should happen





and people like this are exactly the kind of people that will get no where in dust . they will get kicked out of any serious corp and be the high sec miners of dust ..

the attitude of those dingbats will ensure they never get to experiance the real depth and joys of the eve universe because no one will want the bullshit crying.

now this bit is important be sure you understand it ..its eve, it cleraly says EVE, Dust 514. the EVE part is on top giving it prominance.. in eve **** happens , you will die , you will lose isk , you will get gangbanged by the latist cheap and dirty trick in the game to make sure that no territory is lost. territory = money and money = win . if my bankroll is bigger than yours i can just keep dropping armour till you are out of money .. and i win. this is not happy unicorn land . real players , playing for the win , are going to use a mix of anything and everything to kill you ... if that includes dropping tanks on building and dropships on towers ofc they are going to do it . if you are too stupid / lazy to counter it who is at fault? let me give you a hint .. its you

WELCOME TO EVE.

Welcome to flavor country.

I love how people are trying to defend this. It's an obvious design flaw, I'm sure the devs are entertaining the idea of making it possible in final release based on feedback, but to sit here and defend that you should be able to snipe people who can't even see you due to draw distance, is just the most ******** thing I've ever seen.
Especially since you are telling it to people that can do it, and do it ten times better than you, but chose not to because it's an obvious glitch.

How high can you go? I heard you can see my victory in this thread from space.

How high can you go? I heard you can see my victory in this thread from space.

o look another troll thats not interested in discussion only his own self importance dilusion . who just wants to be right . Even when faced with the ability to see evidence to disprove his assumptions ignores the facts and remains belligerent. there are a lot of them in this thread.

Right...

First of all, getting the dropship up in high altitudes is NOT an exploit or a glitch.
You ever noticed you could press X when you fall down from a great height to activate your fancy pancy sci-fi parachute?
And did you notice that the heights where that ability can be activated can only be reached by "glitching" (wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?

Nah the controls for the dropship just arent good enough yet, it should be way easier to reach those heights!

In my last match the teams had some great sniper wars between the towers, drop uplink shehanigans and whatnot.
Now not too much effort could be put in this since then not enough people would be on the ground to do the grunts work, but to the victor went the rights to disrupt the battlefield far below them for a while, with some well timed game saving objective related disrupting headshots. It was.. dare I say it... a Sandbox experience.

I love those towers.

Focus on them too much and you won't win any objectives.
Ignore them and get annoyed.

It's a team game people, get on comms, device more tactics, use your brains.

(wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?

Sort of like the "discussion" that your flight ceiling should exceed the draw distance?

It's not a glitch. It IS an exploit. Hell I saw 2 guys boosting on 1 tower (damage ship + armour repair = points. Losers). While this was going on I took a drop ship and cleared another tower. Bu the time I jumped back to the ground, another Dropship was on another tower, too far to see. Repeat this for 5 games I played.

Is this game about objectives? Or about campin?

Seriously, if they increase the range that you see Dropships from, no one will use them. Swarm + hive = dead Dropships. Except when they fly out of sight distance. Or if missiles only went as far as visual distance.

I don't understand why anyone would defend this tactic.

It's not a glitch. It IS an exploit. Hell I saw 2 guys boosting on 1 tower (damage ship + armour repair = points. Losers). While this was going on I took a drop ship and cleared another tower. Bu the time I jumped back to the ground, another Dropship was on another tower, too far to see. Repeat this for 5 games I played.

Is this game about objectives? Or about campin?

Seriously, if they increase the range that you see Dropships from, no one will use them. Swarm + hive = dead Dropships. Except when they fly out of sight distance. Or if missiles only went as far as visual distance.

I don't understand why anyone would defend this tactic.

Right...

First of all, getting the dropship up in high altitudes is NOT an exploit or a glitch.
You ever noticed you could press X when you fall down from a great height to activate your fancy pancy sci-fi parachute?
And did you notice that the heights where that ability can be activated can only be reached by "glitching" (wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?

Nah the controls for the dropship just arent good enough yet, it should be way easier to reach those heights!

In my last match the teams had some great sniper wars between the towers, drop uplink shehanigans and whatnot.
Now not too much effort could be put in this since then not enough people would be on the ground to do the grunts work, but to the victor went the rights to disrupt the battlefield far below them for a while, with some well timed game saving objective related disrupting headshots. It was.. dare I say it... a Sandbox experience.

I love those towers.

Focus on them too much and you won't win any objectives.
Ignore them and get annoyed.

It's a team game people, get on comms, device more tactics, use your brains.

@snake
Yet are exploiting the view distance. Like I say, it's an exploit not a glitch.

it's not a glitch and you can easily be shot down from there.i have gone up there to place cover fire on an objective before and have succeded in my mission and have also been rammed off of it and shot down by a heavy on the ground just as many times.not everything is a glitch just because it kills you.

ofc .. because mag is the glorious wonder that dust should aspire to be... go away. your epeen is showing and no one wants to see it

So many new tears to drink!!!


Shooting from high altitude, beyond line of sight? Wow that's not fair who would do that?

A: World War 2
A: Vietnam
A: Gulf War 1
A: Iraq
A: Afganistan

Try looking up AC-130 "Puff the Magic Dragon".

Geeze people, just counter. Think beyond a flat 2D map.

As far as rendering or draw distance, there is nothing wrong with it. In the real world bombs drop from bombers that people on the ground don't see. It sucks if you are on the ground but it happens, it's reality.

DUST needs fighter jets or some type of planetary ship sooner rather than off in some expansion pack a year from now.

DUST needs fighter jets or some type of planetary ship sooner rather than off in some expansion pack a year from now.

Yes but snipers in real life have no problem seeing their intended targets due to "render" issues. We're not talking orbital strike here: which is the EVE equivalent of the bombing runs you're talking about (other EVE ships should be there to do something about that, otherwise too bad just like IRL bombers).

We need better renders, yes. It would also be hilarious if we could snipe these 1 man drop-ship abusers out of their turrets. The side of a drop-ship is wide open, make it happen CCP!

The only problem with it is people are doing it for free. Remove the militia dropships and tanks.

Also, render distance needs to be boosted so you can actually see them up there from the ground and to be able to snipe them.

It's not cheap at all. You only think it's cheap because you died by it. Adapt or die.

Its not an exploit

Everyone can fly up ther

Its ther choice to do so

Hell when i see the enemy do it i fly up ther push ther dropship off the ledge then camp up ther myself until i get bored of the view

Its a valid tactic

The problem is the draw distance and it needs to be increased because you cant see the dropships at that height just the missiles coming out of them

Wow your using real life in comparison to a scifi shooter? Known of those wars had swarm launchers, forge guns.

RL and videos game dont mix just because it was done in RL doesn't make it good, balanced, or fun in a "video game"

Sorry, but it's a glitch. Anyone saying otherwise is clueless.
The roof is obviously not made to be stood upon because you stand on invisible floors. It's not like you can just fly straight up and land on it from any direction, you have to shimmy up the rear pipes and, ummm... "Glitch" your way up there.

100% Right. We've got auto-rotating helicopter blades to prevent total failures -- i'm surprised that a dropship, sometimes worth more than all of its occupants, automatically crashes when the pilot bails.

It would also give the pilot the opportunity to slide back into a gunner position while the ship hovers so that they can help lay down support fire & a bad ass hacking opportunity. Drop from a dropship onto a stationary drop ship, hack it from the top, then drop in to pilot it or use the weapons. Set it up low to the ground between different points for some platformer style jumping to get to hard to reach locations to launch an assault from.

let me guess,you think camping all game is a valid tactic too

All the people saying it's not a glitch, have you actually tried to get up there? It totally is a glitch, it doesn't appear to be intended to get up there. It's not as simple as just flying up there, you gotta get next to the building and rock back and forth (or in a circular motion) to slowly gain height. It takes several minutes to actually get up there. That makes it impossible to kill someone up there, unless they are dumb and not paying attention. Since you have to rock for a few min to get up there, anyone up there has more than enough time to shoot you down before you can get them.

If it's not a gltich to get up there, then dropships need to be able to climb to that height much easier.

I think that a Swarm Launcher can solve a lot of problems in those cases!

I think that a Swarm Launcher can solve a lot of problems in those cases!

That and a forge gun.

Ps: i have more like's then you GM Unicorn

That and a forge gun.

Ps: i have more like's then you GM Unicorn

the issue is that they can be so high up that they don't draw, they are invisible. not to mention that the damage indicator doesn't show where the missile came from. and for some reason there's often no sound effect to go with it.

then the pilot can get around this by simply shooting the panel, which never moves...


again, i don't think being able to fly that high is a glitch in and of itself, but the lack of sound, proper damage indicators, and a hard cap on vision MAKE it pretty ridiculous. not to mention free militia dropships... so there is absolutely 0 skillpoint or isk investment for this tactic. even if you do shoot him down he can call another one within seconds.

the issue is that they can be so high up that they don't draw, they are invisible. not to mention that the damage indicator doesn't show where the missile came from. and for some reason there's often no sound effect to go with it.

then the pilot can get around this by simply shooting the panel, which never moves...


again, i don't think being able to fly that high is a glitch in and of itself, but the lack of sound, proper damage indicators, and a hard cap on vision MAKE it pretty ridiculous. not to mention free militia dropships... so there is absolutely 0 skillpoint or isk investment for this tactic. even if you do shoot him down he can call another one within seconds.

The Swarm Launcher locks on targets even if those are not tagged with strategic symbols (like square, triangle or the V )... or at least seems that to me.

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