I think that a Swarm Launcher can solve a lot of problems in those cases!

I think that a Swarm Launcher can solve a lot of problems in those cases!

That and a forge gun.

Ps: i have more like's then you GM Unicorn

That and a forge gun.

Ps: i have more like's then you GM Unicorn

the issue is that they can be so high up that they don't draw, they are invisible. not to mention that the damage indicator doesn't show where the missile came from. and for some reason there's often no sound effect to go with it.

then the pilot can get around this by simply shooting the panel, which never moves...


again, i don't think being able to fly that high is a glitch in and of itself, but the lack of sound, proper damage indicators, and a hard cap on vision MAKE it pretty ridiculous. not to mention free militia dropships... so there is absolutely 0 skillpoint or isk investment for this tactic. even if you do shoot him down he can call another one within seconds.

the issue is that they can be so high up that they don't draw, they are invisible. not to mention that the damage indicator doesn't show where the missile came from. and for some reason there's often no sound effect to go with it.

then the pilot can get around this by simply shooting the panel, which never moves...


again, i don't think being able to fly that high is a glitch in and of itself, but the lack of sound, proper damage indicators, and a hard cap on vision MAKE it pretty ridiculous. not to mention free militia dropships... so there is absolutely 0 skillpoint or isk investment for this tactic. even if you do shoot him down he can call another one within seconds.

The Swarm Launcher locks on targets even if those are not tagged with strategic symbols (like square, triangle or the V )... or at least seems that to me.

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This game honestly needs AA defenses that prevent people from simply spamming dropships. It also needs an additional rocket launcher which can be used as a side arm.

I had a similar problem to this. Someone had camped with a viper on top of the large square shelter by B, and was constantly shooting at B spawn. Now, I tried to take him out with swarms (along with someone else) but he just killed and killed.

If they keep trying to spawn at a place where you can see (on the map lol) that explosions and **** is happening, then Darwin has some theories about what should happen to those players.

DUST to hard to swallow for ze fps proz?

Poor you the EVE universe is harsh and if you cannot adapt you will get eaten. This issue has NOTHING to do with balance it''s called tactics and use of game mechanics.

There is very little honor in EVE what counts is the fight and the win.

Go look up some EVE news and see how people get screwed over before you can make any relevant complaints...

man stop complaining and call a drop ship and deal with them that is what i do.

Perhaps, but on the other hand, there is supposed to be fair gameplay. Yes, perhaps I'm being a little naive, but games should always be balanced. If an AV trooper tries to take out a dropship with a few swarms, then the dropship just kills him (on top of shutting down a vital spawn point), it's highly unbalancing for the gameplay.

Edit: In light of the above post, it's not about one isolated incident (i.e. repairing a tank while it's taking damage) but a constant, reproducible effect. For example, if a spawn point was able to be shut down by one person, that makes it an essential tactic to have. Same with regards to the dropships on tall buildings.

In the end, those "tactics" are used time and time again. Another way of saying what I'm trying to say is that the disbanding of BoB was a highly situational thing. Yes, unfair, but HIGHLY situational. The equivalent of spawn camping in DUST would be a constant stream of asset appropriation by one alliance in EvE from another with no way of stopping it.

i'm tired of this argument...

if a shooter was released into the open market today, with perfectly campable spawns, one hit troll grenades, infinite free invisible aircraft, and 3 of it's 4 classes being worthless.. it would fail. abuse the system all you want. tell yourself you're playing into the "canon" of eve... but you'd be doing it alone.


that's the reality dust faces. it needs to be a functioning and properly balanced fps shooter, or else nobody is gonna play it. you "hardcore" roleplayers will have nobody to troll, and EVE will have a giant cancerous lump stuck to it's sovereignty system.


and for the record, this tactic is not the eve equivelant of a battlecruiser ganking an industrial. it's the eve equivalent of a frigate ganking a freighter without ever having to deactivate it's cloak, and still being paid out the insurance...

I think that a Swarm Launcher can solve a lot of problems in those cases!

The OP and other posts protecting such a claim are truly unfounded.

Since when a player lands a dropship on a tower and spawns a tank, guess what, they are giving up mobility and places to hide for being up high and sniping people with random guns. They are still defenseless against other attacks, specially from the air.

So, it's merely trading one aspect and sacrificing another. Why fix something that isn't broke? Just look at the problem and see if you can easily work around it using what is available in the game, if you can better too you.

No fair fights, except everyone has the chance to fight.

To kill a Dropship call a drop ship
To kill a HAV call a HAV
To kill infantry there is the assault rifle/SMG
I'm kinda failing to see the rock paper scissors aspect at the moment. Really, your probably dead before the launcher locks or forgegun charges. I am anyway with a tech2 suit.
Currently it seems to be "rock beaten by big rock beaten by biggest rock." Btw the biggest rocks I've found are Jenza, and Rhapsody. Jenza killed 4 Sagaris with her Surya last night. I'm not saying they're OP because of the cost, and the fact you need 3 players to make them good. I'm just saying no one seems I have rocks like these 2. Oh and some Progcyborg chappy, can't remember his full name. But he's not quite there yet.