DUST Search - People Glitching Dropships On Top of The Map And Spamming Missiles At the Object...

Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:

Can we get a fix for this soon...

Yes I am talking about the giant towers surrounding the map.

Noteworthy posts:

xprotoman23 wrote:

Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaining about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3.

Cobalt Monkey wrote:

James Trendall wrote:

gangsta nachos wrote:

It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off

Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer?

I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players.

If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's.

And that would solve what exactly?

For starters, it would require a commitment to teamwork between the two instead of just letting everyone do it. And since there wouldn't be anything in it for the Pilot SP-wise...
And at the very least it gets one more person off the field of play for their side.

BS! Joe!!
All it takes is ONE guy in a crappy militia Viper dropship to kill them.
Please see my thread trade ya a beatup Viper for your expensive equipment.
Of course, you would also have to be unable to spawn LAVs and Tanks up there too, or you're just trading the problem of one hard to reach turret for another that's an even smaller target.

I do fight back against tower gunners. I take my Forge Gun to them as best I can. But the ability to do this offers too many advantages due to the game's current limitations.
They can be quite difficult to see at all, let alone aim at, due to the bright lights on the tower fronts.
In the overview map they blend almost perfectly with the towers in the top down view, though this is somewhat countered because you can see a constant spray of missiles.
If parked sufficiently back can avoid being marked altogether.
Worst of all, if you're not close enough to the tower they're perched on they are completely invisible, as in do not load to be seen.

"Get your own and knock it down" isn't always viable either since they will generally have plenty of time to shoot you before you can get to them. If you want to fly up and shoot it down, then that requires a pilot and a gunner, two people to their one. And with the current state of communication being so hit or miss, simply communicating what needs done can be impossible.

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xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:39:00 - [31] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels?
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:41:00 - [32] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Basically this thread's tldr is "People are doing things that are causing my team to get blown up. I don't want to actually go stop them from doing this, so just don't let them do it at all." Welcome to the sandbox people, CCP loves when people do dirty underhanded **** to win. Complain all you want, they'll just sit back, laugh, and tell you to adapt. Thanks for legitimizing spawn camping broksi
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:41:00 - [33] - Quote Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that
Zeran Haggai Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 196	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:42:00 - [34] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Zeran Haggai wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off only bad players complain about other players who think outside the box. It's just a cheap tactic I can get my ship and crash into them but I'd rather try to get it fixed so I don't have to bother with the scrub from above Step 1: Get a militia heavy suit Step 2: Invest a small amount of SP to use Forge Guns Step 3: Buy a Forge Gun and equip it to the Heavy Suit Step 4: Suit up and blow the ship up or just use the militia swarm launcher. It really is that easy. i believe the spot they sit is beyond the SL's lock range
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:42:00 - [35] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that there's nothing wrong with it. Anyone can get up there, you just have to have the brains to acknowledge that fact.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:47:00 - [36] - Quote gangsta nachos wrote: Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:49:00 - [37] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:50:00 - [38] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels? yea, the really tall towers.
Moejoe Omnipotent 66	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:51:00 - [39] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels? Yes I am.
Cobalt Monkey Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 140	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:51:00 - [40] - Quote James Trendall wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer? I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players. If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's. And that would solve what exactly? For starters, it would require a commitment to teamwork between the two instead of just letting everyone do it. And since there wouldn't be anything in it for the Pilot SP-wise... And at the very least it gets one more person off the field of play for their side. Of course, you would also have to be unable to spawn LAVs and Tanks up there too, or you're just trading the problem of one hard to reach turret for another that's an even smaller target. I do fight back against tower gunners. I take my Forge Gun to them as best I can. But the ability to do this offers too many advantages due to the game's current limitations. They can be quite difficult to see at all, let alone aim at, due to the bright lights on the tower fronts. In the overview map they blend almost perfectly with the towers in the top down view, though this is somewhat countered because you can see a constant spray of missiles. If parked sufficiently back can avoid being marked altogether. Worst of all, if you're not close enough to the tower they're perched on they are completely invisible, as in do not load to be seen. "Get your own and knock it down" isn't always viable either since they will generally have plenty of time to shoot you before you can get to them. If you want to fly up and shoot it down, then that requires a pilot and a gunner, two people to their one. And with the current state of communication being so hit or miss, simply communicating what needs done can be impossible.

RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:53:00 - [41] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: How is this a glitch? If its a problem, get into a dropship and go take care of the problem yourself. RAMMING SPEED!!! gets rid of them quick.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:54:00 - [42] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels? Yes I am. Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaint about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3.
gangsta nachos Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:56:00 - [43] - Quote Cobalt Monkey wrote: James Trendall wrote: [quote=gangsta nachos]It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer? I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players. If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's. And that would solve what exactly? For starters, it would require a commitment to teamwork between the two instead of just letting everyone do it. And since there wouldn't be anything in it for the Pilot SP-wise... And at the very least it gets one more person off the field of play for their side. Of course, you would also have to be unable to spawn LAVs and Tanks up there too, or you're just trading the problem of one hard to reach turret for another that's an even smaller target. I do fight back against tower gunners. I take my Forge Gun to them as best I can. But the ability to do this offers too many advantages due to the game's current limitations. They can be quite difficult to see at all, let alone aim at, due to the bright lights on the tower fronts. In the overview map they blend almost perfectly with the towers in the top down view, though this is somewhat countered because you can see a constant spray of missiles. If parked sufficiently back can avoid being marked altogether. Worst of all, if you're not close enough to the tower they're perched on they are completely invisible, as in do not load to be seen. "Get your own and knock it down" isn't always viable either since they will genNerally have plenty of time to shoot you before you can get to them. If you want to fly up and shoot it down, then that requires a pilot and a gunner, two people to their one. And with the current state of communication being so hit or miss, simply communicating what needs done can be impossible.[/quote No one seems to understand this is getting nowhere we don't want to get a ship to get them downB they shouldn't be there like someone said launcher can't reach up there on buildings is fine not the ******* towers
Cobalt Monkey Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 140	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:57:00 - [44] - Quote Erm, yes? That's what I was saying. :) I should note that the missing ] at the end of the quote there makes the quotes look falsely attributed. Just wanted to avoid any confusion.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:58:00 - [45] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels? Yes I am. Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaint about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3. dumbest comment I've seen today... They want KB+M cause they are used to it. Don't make up some reason they want it when you have no clue why most do. And it can be reached by a dropship. just gotta slowboat up to that level. Not a glitch. Glitch would be getting in side the build to shoot out from it and getting kills while not being able to be hit.
Moejoe Omnipotent 66	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:01:00 - [46] - Quote Edit: Didn't mean to post.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:04:00 - [47] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: xprotoman23 wrote: Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Your talking about that spot on top of the towers that can't be reached by a drop ship flying at normal levels? Yes I am. Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaint about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3. dumbest comment I've seen today... They want KB+M cause they are used to it. Don't make up some reason they want it when you have no clue why most do. And it can be reached by a dropship. just gotta slowboat up to that level. Not a glitch. Glitch would be getting in side the build to shoot out from it and getting kills while not being able to be hit. 1. I played a match last weekend where the lack of M+KB support was their rationale for hiding in drop ships on the tower 2. Drop ships shouldn't be able creep up to that level. They probably weren't intended to even fly on top of the MCC 3. It's a glitch, because it can't be reached when flying the dropship as intended or at conventional levels for that matter.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:08:00 - [48] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: Can we get a fix for this soon... Yes I am talking about the giant towers surrounding the map. Noteworthy posts: xprotoman23 wrote: Since it can't be reached by flying at normal levels doesn't that make it a glitch? I believe that's the spot on the map where the kids complaining about not having M+KB support go to get cheap kills, because they are useless when using a DS3. Cobalt Monkey wrote: James Trendall wrote: gangsta nachos wrote: It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer? I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players. If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's. And that would solve what exactly? For starters, it would require a commitment to teamwork between the two instead of just letting everyone do it. And since there wouldn't be anything in it for the Pilot SP-wise... And at the very least it gets one more person off the field of play for their side. BS! Joe!! All it takes is ONE guy in a crappy militia Viper dropship to kill them. Please see my thread trade ya a beatup Viper for your expensive equipment. Of course, you would also have to be unable to spawn LAVs and Tanks up there too, or you're just trading the problem of one hard to reach turret for another that's an even smaller target. I do fight back against tower gunners. I take my Forge Gun to them as best I can. But the ability to do this offers too many advantages due to the game's current limitations. They can be quite difficult to see at all, let alone aim at, due to the bright lights on the tower fronts. In the overview map they blend almost perfectly with the towers in the top down view, though this is somewhat countered because you can see a constant spray of missiles. If parked sufficiently back can avoid being marked altogether. Worst of all, if you're not close enough to the tower they're perched on they are completely invisible, as in do not load to be seen. "Get your own and knock it down" isn't always viable either since they will generally have plenty of time to shoot you before you can get to them. If you want to fly up and shoot it down, then that requires a pilot and a gunner, two people to their one. And with the current state of communication being so hit or miss, simply communicating what needs done can be impossible.
Moejoe Omnipotent 66	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:28:00 - [49] - Quote This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past. Ya, definitely not a glitch...
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:35:00 - [50] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past. Ya, definitely not a glitch... theres also no sound when they hit from high up. I just see random explosions and then death. Definitely needs to be fixed.

Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 416	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:40:00 - [51] - Quote i don't think it's a glitch, but it is ***** ****** and a perfect example of why militia dropships are a terribad idea.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:54:00 - [52] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: 1. I played a match last weekend where the lack of M+KB support was their rationale for hiding in drop ships on the tower 2. Drop ships shouldn't be able creep up to that level. They probably weren't intended to even fly on top of the MCC 3. It's a glitch, because it can't be reached when flying the dropship as intended or at conventional levels for that matter. 1.) So those few idiots that want KB+M support determine everyone elses actions and opinions? 2.) They should be able to go up to that lvl easier in my opinion. those towers aren't high at all. The MCC makes it slide off cause of the angles. 3.) As intended, the dropship can go striaght up? hope you're kidding..
MPR11 KEQ 24	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:54:00 - [53] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past. Ya, definitely not a glitch... Yes its not a glitch, I fly dropships for a living in dust. Ive flown that high just having my guys inertia dampen down to the objectives. Ive rammed ships off of those towers and watch them and their suits fall to the ground, If you don't like it then listen to those that have given you great ideas but unless you didn't see I'll reiterate 1. Get a dropship and fly up there 2. Get a swarm launcher (even if you don't see it move around a bit and even if a slight bit is showing the lock on will find it) 3. Get a Forge Gun (this might not work if they are hiding by the middle, but in order to fire down they must be close to the edge) 4. If none of those 3 don't work out for you, GET ON COMMS AND ASK SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT. Yours truly, MPR11 Dropship Ace.
PDlGGY22 24	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:57:00 - [54] - Quote cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:57:00 - [55] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: 1. I played a match last weekend where the lack of M+KB support was their rationale for hiding in drop ships on the tower 2. Drop ships shouldn't be able creep up to that level. They probably weren't intended to even fly on top of the MCC 3. It's a glitch, because it can't be reached when flying the dropship as intended or at conventional levels for that matter. Who decided what the conventional level is? It is obviously not a glitch. The easiest fix to the problem would be to just make the top of those towers a sloped shape that does not allow a vehicle to park up there. Other than that if a vehicle gives you a problem then just take care of it. All vehicles are easy to take care of if you actually try. If a Drop Ship is up there, get your own and go take care of them.
Phantomnom Bragian Order Amarr Empire 505	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:58:00 - [56] - Quote If they can fly that high let the turrets aim that high. Simple. Then we can "adapt and overcome" "adapt or die" or "defend every exploit in a Beta out of blind love" or whatever it is most of you guys keep saying.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:59:00 - [57] - Quote PDlGGY22 wrote: cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit Forge Gun can easily hit that then. Try it out instead of complaining while you only use your "gun game"
MPR11 KEQ 24	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:59:00 - [58] - Quote PDlGGY22 wrote: cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit Ive done it, trust me.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:59:00 - [59] - Quote Moejoe Omnipotent wrote: This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past. Ya, definitely not a glitch... I know people who have no trouble taking care of vehicles up there. Not sure what makes anyone think it is a glitch. It may be a **** move, but there is nothing that stops the other team from doing the same.
John DaMarine 211	Posted - 2012.07.04 23:02:00 - [60] - Quote I think we have to accept that certain @rseholes will always find an exploit of some kind to farm experience at the expense of others enjoyment. It happens in ALL games. Find a way to counter it, avoid it or ignore it. But just deal with it.



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