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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:16:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24879&find=unread
thought this was funny its in the tech support and bugs just got posted moejoe must be tearing them up from the tower |
BorrowedTime TM
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:20:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:BorrowedTime TM wrote:Just thought I would throw this out there for all of those guys saying "a dropship can't fly that high"...
It can, easily and with no effort. You guys do realize that all the buttons on the dualshock (save the start/select and L3/R3) are analogue. Now this doesn't mean much with most of the functions on this game, but as it pertains to the dropship the L1 button is for the altitude thrusters... the harder you push it, the faster and higher the ship can climb. dont know who said they couldn't fly that high because obviously they can maybe they meant to say they shouldn't fly that high.
No, it wasn't you that was saying that. It was protoman. I think he's under the impression that dropships can't fly that high because most people just lightly hold down the L1 button when flying the dropship, and when you do that, you don't gain the altitiude to get to the height of the tower. I was just pointing it out that it was easy to do, and that I've taken a dropship that high. The last time I did was to ram the dropship that was spamming missiles down on my team, except he saw me coming, flew circles around me, and I died. |
PDlGGY22
24
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:20:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:you keep telling yourself that
i hold the world record in kills in a game on ghost recon and have been among the best in every shooter ive played.
dont mistake a complaint of imbalance as weakness, your a fool to think that. |
Iso Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
56
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:23:00 -
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PDlGGY22 wrote:Squiddie Squish wrote:you keep telling yourself that i hold the world record in kills in a game on ghost recon and have been among the best in every shooter ive played. dont mistake a complaint of imbalance as weakness, your a fool to think that.
*makes a slow, jerking-off motion*
Yea, we don't care about that here. Or your lies. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:31:00 -
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This problem actually stems mostly from the new turret radius on drop ships. Now, they can shoot in basically any direction, and it's simply too powerful for a dropship. Before, it was far too restricting. Now, it's far too liberal. We need to find that happy medium.
Also, render distances need a srs buff. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:35:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:This problem actually stems mostly from the new turret radius on drop ships. Now, they can shoot in basically any direction, and it's simply too powerful for a dropship. Before, it was far too restricting. Now, it's far too liberal. We need to find that happy medium.
Also, render distances need a srs buff.
logic and reason are not responded to well in this thread . id get behind the chair before the trolls start throwing things again if i were you |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:39:00 -
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PDlGGY22 wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit Well since you can, it is not a glitch. I dont think the lock range of a Swarm launcher would determine a glitch though. If a weapon can shoot down from up there, a weapon can shoot up there from the ground. say's the guy that never leaves his tank lol that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either? the best part was when I realized it was you and drove it off the roof and hopped out 
I kill tanks more than use them.I love when the enemy has tanks.
Oh and yes, that is a way to use tanks. Why wouldnt it be? If one day after they are no longer free you are willing to drop the ISK to do that, then do so. You wont be very ISK efficient, but oh well.
All is fair in love and war. |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:40:00 -
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PDlGGY22 wrote:Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not . dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit . what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it. it's not an exploit, so how come the dev's decided not to showcase this ability in any of the promotional video's? are they saving it for near release for some super kick ass lame's that want a game they can park a tank in the sky and get easy kills?
Ok really? Tanks can't aim down. Dropships can get up, and in the promotional videos, they show dropships flying, and it is through this flying that you reach the tower. Yes it is annoying, but the solution would be to limit militia dropships, or to make it a lower flight ceiling, which sucks.
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gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:42:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not . dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit . what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it. it's not an exploit, so how come the dev's decided not to showcase this ability in any of the promotional video's? are they saving it for near release for some super kick ass lame's that want a game they can park a tank in the sky and get easy kills? Ok really? Tanks can't aim down. Dropships can get up, and in the promotional videos, they show dropships flying, and it is through this flying that you reach the tower. Yes it is annoying, but the solution would be to limit militia dropships, or to make it a lower flight ceiling, which sucks.
so much win here |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:44:00 -
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I am all for fixing the vehicles on those really high towers. What I am not for is game mechanics limiting game play freedom.
An easy fix that would not hurt game play freedom would be to make the top of the structure not allow you to park. Have it sloped and make you slide off.
There are many ways to counter it though. If you counter it, you win. If you do not, then you can QQ more. |
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
788
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:45:00 -
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The 'glitch' here is not the ability to go up on the towers. The issue is that the draw distance makes it impossible for anyone not close-ish to the towers themselves to see the players on top. The draw distance is something CCP is aware of and would like to expand on.
Being able to go up there is fine. I've gone up there, killed lots of people camping up there, and promptly been countered within moments by a pair of their dropships, was only able to kill one and then was killed myself.
As far as spawn camping goes... If they spawn in front of you. *shrug* CCP has told us that the current spawn system is bugged and players should not be appearing in the same exact locations every time.
High spots are vantage points. As long as there is a high spot and an air vehicle to get them there, people will go there.
Being able to actually call vehicles up there is a bug, though. It's intended for them to be marked as 'Location Inaccesible" and deny RDV requests. |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:45:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:I am all for fixing the vehicles on those really high towers. What I am not for is game mechanics limiting game play freedom.
An easy fix that would not hurt game play freedom would be to make the top of the structure not allow you to park. Have it sloped and make you slide off.
There are many ways to counter it though. If you counter it, you win. If you do not, then you can QQ more.
someone said this already was it you |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:46:00 -
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 SILENTSAM 69 wrote:What I am not for is game mechanics limiting game play freedom..
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2012.07.05 01:02:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:Being able to actually call vehicles up there is a bug, though. It's intended for them to be marked as 'Location Inaccesible" and deny RDV requests.
This is very good to hear as it's one of the things that makes this whole "tactic" just that much more aggravating. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
278
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:24:00 -
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BorrowedTime TM wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:BorrowedTime TM wrote:Just thought I would throw this out there for all of those guys saying "a dropship can't fly that high"...
It can, easily and with no effort. You guys do realize that all the buttons on the dualshock (save the start/select and L3/R3) are analogue. Now this doesn't mean much with most of the functions on this game, but as it pertains to the dropship the L1 button is for the altitude thrusters... the harder you push it, the faster and higher the ship can climb. dont know who said they couldn't fly that high because obviously they can maybe they meant to say they shouldn't fly that high. No, it wasn't you that was saying that. It was protoman. I think he's under the impression that dropships can't fly that high because most people just lightly hold down the L1 button when flying the dropship, and when you do that, you don't gain the altitiude to get to the height of the tower. I was just pointing it out that it was easy to do, and that I've taken a dropship that high. The last time I did was to ram the dropship that was spamming missiles down on my team, except he saw me coming, flew circles around me, and I died.
Your welcome :)
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Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:28:00 -
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lower the flight ceiling, it's too much of a pain to go up there and bump them down. i went through 5 drop ships in one match just to keep them off of those towers. |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:32:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:lower the flight ceiling, it's too much of a pain to go up there and bump them down. i went through 5 drop ships in one match just to keep them off of those towers.
Right its dumb isn't it but this is exactly what some retards want you to keep doing instead of fixing the problem. |
Regis Mark V
249
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:54:00 -
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Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:09:00 -
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Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground.
without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:12:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection
don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks |
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TotalBreakage
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
410
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:16:00 -
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Take off militia dropships, then you wont have noobs not taking them as seriously doing this. I am a dropship pilot, and a real one, I got over 800,000 SP to back this up, I take my job seriously and I'm sure all legit pilots do. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:19:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:lower the flight ceiling, it's too much of a pain to go up there and bump them down. i went through 5 drop ships in one match just to keep them off of those towers. Right its dumb isn't it but this is exactly what some retards want you to keep doing instead of fixing the problem.
I'm not sure why you went through 5 drop ships... I played on a map where there was a game of freaking musical chairs going on up there. Drop ships would come up from behind one of those towers, set down, then the dropships start jockeying for positions on different towers until someone stopped the music. It was pretty intense. It's not like you get a full spread on the battlefield once you've landed or that you're guaranteeing your team's victory by perching up there like some ugly beetle.
Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground.
Well now we know that the guys in Dropships at the top of the tower won't get any love from you TLC, no matter how many times they try to holla at you with their missile salvos from the side of their best friend's ride. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:22:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks
Most of the spawns that get blowen up are from people using missle installation or tanks not swarm launchers
You cant kill foot soilder up there while doing this,unless your a sniper but then you wont be able to blow up spawns... |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:28:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks Most of the spawns that get blowen up are from people using missle installation or tanks not swarm launchers You cant kill foot soilder up there while doing this,unless your a sniper but then you wont be able to blow up spawns...
obviously you dont know what the **** your talking about and who said anything about swarm launchers |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:31:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks Most of the spawns that get blowen up are from people using missle installation or tanks not swarm launchers You cant kill foot soilder up there while doing this,unless your a sniper but then you wont be able to blow up spawns... obviously you dont know what the **** your talking about and who said anything about swarm launchers
there other methods of doing the same thing, i guess you dont know them ill keep it to myself and continue doing this"glitch"
edit: woooh nvm it its just the mehod of just shooting the droships missles from the tower,screw that but there be other ways to blow up objecties without a dropship at the same place |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:36:00 -
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The whole topic is over dropships getting up there and shooting down. If you can do other stuff up there it don't matter to me the problem is the dropships. I dont care about snipers or whatever else if you cant get a drop ship up there you cant do anything up there. |
Valklear Leosude
20
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Posted - 2012.07.05 04:22:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off That's idiotic. Just because someone isn't sitting in the driver seat of a car doesn't mean the car is turned off. But really, this isn't hard to counter if you just take the time to fly up there and deal with it. So if I'm the pilot and I jump out it should hover not go powerless and crash you took your foot off the hover peddle. That does not mean the ship just turns off. get into a car, speed down a highway, then jump out. The car is still on and it's still driving, but it's slowly slowing down to a cruse /or a stop. It will not turn off until the battery dies.
lolz
No really..
he meant it..
get into a car
speed down a highway
jump out
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Ventis Gant
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.07.05 04:41:00 -
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I agree with those who say that render distance is the only issue with getting on the towers...that being said, I was on the roof of one of the two buildings that have the null cannons on top, and an enemy was on the far northwest tower shooting at my team...I was able to see the dropship and snipe him out of the turret. I use the top of the buildings for a sniper post, as its one of the few places on any of the maps where you can be in range with a sniper rifle but not in range of an AR. I use the dropship guns to take out the spawn points and large gun installations to help my team out (and get points, I'll admit), then I drop out of the dropship and set up to protect point A, and to a limited extent, C. I've gotten a few kills on people on foot from up there with the dropship guns, but its actually pretty hard to do unless someone is sitting still. I also get chased off of the tower pretty regularly (although I did have a match where I took out 3 or 4 dropships that tried to take my perch away) |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.07.05 05:02:00 -
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And it is threads like this that show who has what it takes to survive in the EVE universe, and how are scrub min/max'ers that will win every battle but lose every war. |
Ghural Bear
15
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Posted - 2012.07.05 05:09:00 -
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Seriously?
It's not a glitch. Your team just needs to learn how to work together. Get in a drop ship and take the buggers out. Or get a sniper to do it. Or stay under cover. Or get out of range. Or get there first.
Or stand at the base of the tower sobbing uncontrollably and begging them to come down and play fair. |
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