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James Trendall
Doomheim
110
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:53:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:well i just called a dropship and flew up directly from the defenders main spawn and hovered around the battlefield well above the MCC nm the damn towers and will gladly reproduce this for anyone else thats 2 stupid tp get a free dropship and do it themselves
Im glad someone has sense to try it out before posting "its a glitch you cant fly up there with out rocking"
I think people forget that the buttons on the PS3 are all analog meaning the harder you press them the fater/hard it goes. |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
115
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:01:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:Ghural Bear wrote:Seriously?
It's not a glitch. Your team just needs to learn how to work together. Get in a drop ship and take the buggers out. Or get a sniper to do it. Or stay under cover. Or get out of range. Or get there first.
Or stand at the base of the tower sobbing uncontrollably and begging them to come down and play fair. this is what should happen Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I lose 75,000 isk every time I die. Some nub sitting in an overpowered spot shouldn't be able to kill me tbqh. and people like this are exactly the kind of people that will get no where in dust . they will get kicked out of any serious corp and be the high sec miners of dust .. the attitude of those dingbats will ensure they never get to experiance the real depth and joys of the eve universe because no one will want the bullshit crying. now this bit is important be sure you understand it ..its eve, it cleraly says EVE, Dust 514. the EVE part is on top giving it prominance.. in eve **** happens , you will die , you will lose isk , you will get gangbanged by the latist cheap and dirty trick in the game to make sure that no territory is lost. territory = money and money = win . if my bankroll is bigger than yours i can just keep dropping armour till you are out of money .. and i win. this is not happy unicorn land . real players , playing for the win , are going to use a mix of anything and everything to kill you ... if that includes dropping tanks on building and dropships on towers ofc they are going to do it . if you are too stupid / lazy to counter it who is at fault? let me give you a hint .. its you WELCOME TO EVE.
^ this. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
191
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:13:00 -
[153] - Quote
You know you can kill the dropship gunners? Grab a sinper rifle and kill them. or use a forge gun and blow them up, or call a dropship and go kill them |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:14:00 -
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Welcome to flavor country.
I love how people are trying to defend this. It's an obvious design flaw, I'm sure the devs are entertaining the idea of making it possible in final release based on feedback, but to sit here and defend that you should be able to snipe people who can't even see you due to draw distance, is just the most ******** thing I've ever seen. Especially since you are telling it to people that can do it, and do it ten times better than you, but chose not to because it's an obvious glitch. |
Fatmanpro
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:17:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:Welcome to flavor country.
I love how people are trying to defend this. It's an obvious design flaw, I'm sure the devs are entertaining the idea of making it possible in final release based on feedback, but to sit here and defend that you should be able to snipe people who can't even see you due to draw distance, is just the most ******** thing I've ever seen. Especially since you are telling it to people that can do it, and do it ten times better than you, but chose not to because it's an obvious glitch.
QTT |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:22:00 -
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np . i made that this morning inspired by this thread |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:35:00 -
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How high can you go? I heard you can see my victory in this thread from space. |
James Trendall
Doomheim
110
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:42:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:How high can you go? I heard you can see my victory in this thread from space.
Yup your golden cookie is visable from the far distant planets of omicron persei 8
Edit: Enough of this child's play im back on dust514 for more testing and bug replication for the dev's |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:44:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:How high can you go? I heard you can see my victory in this thread from space.
o look another troll thats not interested in discussion only his own self importance dilusion . who just wants to be right . Even when faced with the ability to see evidence to disprove his assumptions ignores the facts and remains belligerent. there are a lot of them in this thread. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:50:00 -
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HTFU and adapt
Its not a glitch, everyone can fly up ther and thus means everyone can do something about it like flying up ther to deal with the problem instead of coming on the forums crying about a problem when you can easily deal with that problem in game |
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onlyelisha
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:51:00 -
[161] - Quote
Seems to be a lot of angry people on the beta forums that just seem like they want to argue and be right all the time like the OP of this thread.
Kind of sad really. |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.07.05 11:59:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:Ignatius Crumwald wrote:How high can you go? I heard you can see my victory in this thread from space. o look another troll thats not interested in discussion only his own self importance dilusion . who just wants to be right . Even when faced with the ability to see evidence to disprove his assumptions ignores the facts and remains belligerent. there are a lot of them in this thread.
Sort of like the "discussion" that your flight ceiling should exceed the draw distance?
See what I did there? I just victory lapped this thread.
I guess it's hard to not be a sore loser, especially after I won this thread so hard. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:07:00 -
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o dear he is at it again .. and i just agreed with him in a bug report thread aswell .. dammit cant stop a troll trolling
seriously tho if you would actually like to do some proper testing on this dude just add me . we can gather evidence and submit a proper bug report full of facts not angry assumptions |
Arc Norch
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:39:00 -
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Right...
First of all, getting the dropship up in high altitudes is NOT an exploit or a glitch. You ever noticed you could press X when you fall down from a great height to activate your fancy pancy sci-fi parachute? And did you notice that the heights where that ability can be activated can only be reached by "glitching" (wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?
Nah the controls for the dropship just arent good enough yet, it should be way easier to reach those heights!
In my last match the teams had some great sniper wars between the towers, drop uplink shehanigans and whatnot. Now not too much effort could be put in this since then not enough people would be on the ground to do the grunts work, but to the victor went the rights to disrupt the battlefield far below them for a while, with some well timed game saving objective related disrupting headshots. It was.. dare I say it... a Sandbox experience.
I love those towers.
Focus on them too much and you won't win any objectives. Ignore them and get annoyed.
It's a team game people, get on comms, device more tactics, use your brains.
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James Trendall
Doomheim
110
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:50:00 -
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Arc Norch wrote:Right...
First of all, getting the dropship up in high altitudes is NOT an exploit or a glitch. You ever noticed you could press X when you fall down from a great height to activate your fancy pancy sci-fi parachute? And did you notice that the heights where that ability can be activated can only be reached by "glitching" (wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?
Nah the controls for the dropship just arent good enough yet, it should be way easier to reach those heights!
In my last match the teams had some great sniper wars between the towers, drop uplink shehanigans and whatnot. Now not too much effort could be put in this since then not enough people would be on the ground to do the grunts work, but to the victor went the rights to disrupt the battlefield far below them for a while, with some well timed game saving objective related disrupting headshots. It was.. dare I say it... a Sandbox experience.
I love those towers.
Focus on them too much and you won't win any objectives. Ignore them and get annoyed.
It's a team game people, get on comms, device more tactics, use your brains.
I like this guy. +1 like for you.
Also to get on top of the towers you dont need to Arc Norch wrote: (wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?
You can just press the L1 button harder and it flys right on top of the MCC with out breaking a sweat.
Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Sort of like the "discussion" that your flight ceiling should exceed the draw distance?
The draw distance is very low right now during the beta im pretty sure that will increase in the full build. given CCP said the one battlefield you play on now is only a tiny part of the planet im sure the battlefield will increase in size also.
[I could be wrong but the draw distance could be something you post in the feedback bug section suggesting they increase it so you can see to the top of the MCC to help counter against snipers on top of the tower's.]
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:57:00 -
[166] - Quote
It's not a glitch. It IS an exploit. Hell I saw 2 guys boosting on 1 tower (damage ship + armour repair = points. Losers). While this was going on I took a drop ship and cleared another tower. Bu the time I jumped back to the ground, another Dropship was on another tower, too far to see. Repeat this for 5 games I played.
Is this game about objectives? Or about campin?
Seriously, if they increase the range that you see Dropships from, no one will use them. Swarm + hive = dead Dropships. Except when they fly out of sight distance. Or if missiles only went as far as visual distance.
I don't understand why anyone would defend this tactic. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:59:00 -
[167] - Quote
its about everything . its a persistant world . |
Deskalkulos Ildigan
CrimeWave Syndicate
115
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:14:00 -
[168] - Quote
Tony Calif wrote:It's not a glitch. It IS an exploit. Hell I saw 2 guys boosting on 1 tower (damage ship + armour repair = points. Losers). While this was going on I took a drop ship and cleared another tower. Bu the time I jumped back to the ground, another Dropship was on another tower, too far to see. Repeat this for 5 games I played.
Is this game about objectives? Or about campin?
Seriously, if they increase the range that you see Dropships from, no one will use them. Swarm + hive = dead Dropships. Except when they fly out of sight distance. Or if missiles only went as far as visual distance.
I don't understand why anyone would defend this tactic.
Well you cannot throw everyone into the same category as those boosting 'tards. The tactic normally is to suppress enemy movement under all circumstances. Hell if you can pin them down at their last spawn point do it. If you can add to the pressure by adding a ton of tanks and dropship shooting all that moves - Do it. Its a game which will be about winning, nobody cares about the strategy you use, as long as you complete your contract. If this means you have to camp to run the enemy dry - Do it. You're not playing Counter Strike or Call of Duty. You're playing a ruthless mercenary who use everything in his / her environment to his / her advantage |
Axeclown
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:18:00 -
[169] - Quote
although i think that anyone who does this is a douchebag.. i dont consider it in need of fixing |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:24:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:It's not a glitch. It IS an exploit. Hell I saw 2 guys boosting on 1 tower (damage ship + armour repair = points. Losers). While this was going on I took a drop ship and cleared another tower. Bu the time I jumped back to the ground, another Dropship was on another tower, too far to see. Repeat this for 5 games I played.
Is this game about objectives? Or about campin?
Seriously, if they increase the range that you see Dropships from, no one will use them. Swarm + hive = dead Dropships. Except when they fly out of sight distance. Or if missiles only went as far as visual distance.
I don't understand why anyone would defend this tactic.
Its not an exploit
Everyone can fly up ther
Its ther choice to do so
Hell when i see the enemy do it i fly up ther push ther dropship off the ledge then camp up ther myself until i get bored of the view
Its a valid tactic
The problem is the draw distance and it needs to be increased because you cant see the dropships at that height just the missiles coming out of them |
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Axeclown
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:55:00 -
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Arc Norch wrote:Right...
First of all, getting the dropship up in high altitudes is NOT an exploit or a glitch. You ever noticed you could press X when you fall down from a great height to activate your fancy pancy sci-fi parachute? And did you notice that the heights where that ability can be activated can only be reached by "glitching" (wiggling forward and backward while pressing L1 for example)?
Nah the controls for the dropship just arent good enough yet, it should be way easier to reach those heights!
In my last match the teams had some great sniper wars between the towers, drop uplink shehanigans and whatnot. Now not too much effort could be put in this since then not enough people would be on the ground to do the grunts work, but to the victor went the rights to disrupt the battlefield far below them for a while, with some well timed game saving objective related disrupting headshots. It was.. dare I say it... a Sandbox experience.
I love those towers.
Focus on them too much and you won't win any objectives. Ignore them and get annoyed.
It's a team game people, get on comms, device more tactics, use your brains.
parachute? who needs a parachuete when u can just go RWAAAAAAR!! and punch the ground realy fkn hard like chuck norris and emmet graves had a baby... am i seriously the only one that wants just climb up a ladder to the height limit and jump off repeatedly |
Pezz IsDank
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2012.07.05 13:56:00 -
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Such flawed logic being used to defend such a bad exploit.
I'm all for freedom when it comes to gameplay but this trick is just downright dirty (no surprise that EVE players say it's OK lmao). I mean first off, isn't the range at which they show sprites limited? So from some spots you can't even see the dropship on top of a building and yet they can just spam rockets into your spawn all game, getting ridiculous kill and little deaths while requiring almost zero skill? Pretty lame really. I've seen it done before, cap 2, leave 1, spam rockets into the one spawn at the one letter.
/insta profit, and the people with no real FPS skill but game knowledge are happy that they can now post good numbers without having to get good. |
James Trendall
Doomheim
110
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:01:00 -
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Remember EVE players will be sending down bombardments so if you sit on the tower for to long your going to get vapourized by an EVE player so why not enjoy it while you can. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:05:00 -
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@snake Yet are exploiting the view distance. Like I say, it's an exploit not a glitch.
@anyone saying "do it for the win" Would you like CCP to add a win button you just click on and you win? Would you click on it? Or would you play the game, and shoot some people...
I'm at the point of giving up discussin dust and just start looking at getting a decent PC. Not impressed by the community here, and we all know it'll only get worse when things go live. 15000 goons and testies + CoD kids. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:16:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:@snake Yet are exploiting the view distance. Like I say, it's an exploit not a glitch.
When the draw distance is fixed/expanded then its still a valid tactic but if you can deal with it now when you cant see them then you can deal with it after
Id start to get used to it tbh and if you see missiles flying from the sky outta nowhere you should know what to do by now |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:19:00 -
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make the towers taller so they cant be reached. |
Zev Caldari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
94
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:35:00 -
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Is this tactic annoying and stupid? Yes.
Do I hate it? Yes.
Is it an exploit? Maybe - but only of long distance rendering.
What really needs to be fixed is the distance renders. It's super annoying that a charge sniper rifle can shoot farther than the game will reliably render, or that dropships can camp on high towers and shoot with near impunity. |
Kiyo Sama
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:36:00 -
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they way i see it is you have about 3 types of games serous gamers aka pros. gamers who like to screw around and just have fun aka normal gamers/ trolls. then you have gamers who suck at the game who play it for there own reasons but when they play they use cheap tatics and exploits of the game to win aka noobs. these people who use exploits to win cause problems for the bigger whole of the other players and cause the devs to have to waste time and make changes to there game and waste memory and more just to stop them from being noobs. personally i believe they should just be banned why? you may ask well lets see you have a person playing cards and he starts to count cards (the exploit of cards) and starts to win alot due to it what do they do? throw that persons no good cheap ass out.
why cant we just bann them for short periods of time until they stop doing it. |
EriktheHeartless
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
168
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Posted - 2012.07.05 14:42:00 -
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it's not a glitch and you can easily be shot down from there.i have gone up there to place cover fire on an objective before and have succeded in my mission and have also been rammed off of it and shot down by a heavy on the ground just as many times.not everything is a glitch just because it kills you. |
Amarr Dust
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.07.05 15:16:00 -
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So many new tears to drink!!!
Shooting from high altitude, beyond line of sight? Wow that's not fair who would do that?
A: World War 2 A: Vietnam A: Gulf War 1 A: Iraq A: Afganistan
Try looking up AC-130 "Puff the Magic Dragon".
Geeze people, just counter. Think beyond a flat 2D map.
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