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gangsta nachos
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:24:00 -
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It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:29:00 -
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James Trendall wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer? I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players. If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's. And that would solve what exactly?
Pilot can't shoot |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:30:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off That's idiotic. Just because someone isn't sitting in the driver seat of a car doesn't mean the car is turned off. But really, this isn't hard to counter if you just take the time to fly up there and deal with it.
So if I'm the pilot and I jump out it should hover not go powerless and crash |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:33:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off only bad players complain about other players who think outside the box.
It's just a cheap tactic I can get my ship and crash into them but I'd rather try to get it fixed so I don't have to bother with the scrub from above |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:35:00 -
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James Trendall wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:
Pilot can't shoot
Yes but they can rep shields and armor making it harder to deal with so one reps the dropship while the other shoot's This just makes things worse.
Look man having a pilot in the ship to power the weapons will most likely do away with the scrub camping in his nest cuz a pilot more than likely wont just sit in one place |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:41:00 -
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Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:47:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:Screw it nobody wants to fix any of the stupid **** that goes on in this game they just use the same argument which is to adapt or some bs like that
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Posted - 2012.07.04 21:56:00 -
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Cobalt Monkey wrote:James Trendall wrote:[quote=gangsta nachos]It's only scrubby players that can't get kills I agree if there isn't a pilot there should be no power to the weapons because the ship will be off Compared to players using the dropship as a bulldozer? I would rather use the turrets on the dropship laying down cover for the team then use it to squish other players. If they make it so the piolet has to be in the dropship to be able to power the turrets then it will result in 2 people in the dropship shooting from the tower's. And that would solve what exactly?
For starters, it would require a commitment to teamwork between the two instead of just letting everyone do it. And since there wouldn't be anything in it for the Pilot SP-wise...
And at the very least it gets one more person off the field of play for their side.
Of course, you would also have to be unable to spawn LAVs and Tanks up there too, or you're just trading the problem of one hard to reach turret for another that's an even smaller target.
I do fight back against tower gunners. I take my Forge Gun to them as best I can. But the ability to do this offers too many advantages due to the game's current limitations.
They can be quite difficult to see at all, let alone aim at, due to the bright lights on the tower fronts.
In the overview map they blend almost perfectly with the towers in the top down view, though this is somewhat countered because you can see a constant spray of missiles.
If parked sufficiently back can avoid being marked altogether.
Worst of all, if you're not close enough to the tower they're perched on they are completely invisible, as in do not load to be seen.
"Get your own and knock it down" isn't always viable either since they will genNerally have plenty of time to shoot you before you can get to them. If you want to fly up and shoot it down, then that requires a pilot and a gunner, two people to their one. And with the current state of communication being so hit or miss, simply communicating what needs done can be impossible.[/quote
No one seems to understand this is getting nowhere we don't want to get a ship to get them downB they shouldn't be there like
someone said launcher can't reach up there on buildings is fine not the ******* towers |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:22:00 -
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It's funny how people support obvious problems with this game and expect you to adapt and it's just a guess but I bet it's only the EVE guys that support this garbage. |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:30:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:It's funny how people support obvious problems with this game and expect you to adapt and it's just a guess but I bet it's only the EVE guys that support this garbage. Cause i've played EVE not even a year yet means i'm one of those EVE guys? I'm for a game that makes you THINK for once. The fact i play EVE has NOTHING to do with it.
Not aimed directly at you, in general |
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:36:00 -
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BorrowedTime TM wrote:Just thought I would throw this out there for all of those guys saying "a dropship can't fly that high"...
It can, easily and with no effort. You guys do realize that all the buttons on the dualshock (save the start/select and L3/R3) are analogue. Now this doesn't mean much with most of the functions on this game, but as it pertains to the dropship the L1 button is for the altitude thrusters... the harder you push it, the faster and higher the ship can climb.
dont know who said they couldn't fly that high because obviously they can maybe they meant to say they shouldn't fly that high. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:16:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24879&find=unread
thought this was funny its in the tech support and bugs just got posted moejoe must be tearing them up from the tower |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:42:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not . dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit . what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it. it's not an exploit, so how come the dev's decided not to showcase this ability in any of the promotional video's? are they saving it for near release for some super kick ass lame's that want a game they can park a tank in the sky and get easy kills? Ok really? Tanks can't aim down. Dropships can get up, and in the promotional videos, they show dropships flying, and it is through this flying that you reach the tower. Yes it is annoying, but the solution would be to limit militia dropships, or to make it a lower flight ceiling, which sucks.
so much win here |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:45:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:I am all for fixing the vehicles on those really high towers. What I am not for is game mechanics limiting game play freedom.
An easy fix that would not hurt game play freedom would be to make the top of the structure not allow you to park. Have it sloped and make you slide off.
There are many ways to counter it though. If you counter it, you win. If you do not, then you can QQ more.
someone said this already was it you |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 02:32:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:lower the flight ceiling, it's too much of a pain to go up there and bump them down. i went through 5 drop ships in one match just to keep them off of those towers.
Right its dumb isn't it but this is exactly what some retards want you to keep doing instead of fixing the problem. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:12:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection
don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:28:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Only scrubs defend and use that tactic. Dropships should not be able to fire the weapons when on the ground. without players doing this youd have tanks and dropships on your ass the whole match.Its a legit tactic for protection don't think they are concentrating their efforts on tanks they are just shooting spawns and people on foot I know cuz I dont drive tanks Most of the spawns that get blowen up are from people using missle installation or tanks not swarm launchers You cant kill foot soilder up there while doing this,unless your a sniper but then you wont be able to blow up spawns...
obviously you dont know what the **** your talking about and who said anything about swarm launchers |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 03:36:00 -
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The whole topic is over dropships getting up there and shooting down. If you can do other stuff up there it don't matter to me the problem is the dropships. I dont care about snipers or whatever else if you cant get a drop ship up there you cant do anything up there. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 06:02:00 -
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Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote:I lose 75,000 isk every time I die. Some nub sitting in an overpowered spot shouldn't be able to kill me tbqh.
oh god I love that example |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 07:46:00 -
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You eve guys get so mad about stuff it's funny it's a simple request just cuz you need to be able to get on top of towered to get kills you shouldnt get upset because people want to take your bread and butter away |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 08:06:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:GreasyFinger Bumsticker wrote:yeah the whole dropship missle rain thing is pretty annoying, i just get my own ship and fly up and missle him/her or slam into them knocking them off
i have done thing myself may times .. if you manage to knock them off and land you can take the spot and shoot them down with your turrets as they are falling.. and franticly seat switching to find the pilot seat.
Guys I'm not saying I haven't taken a trip to knock someone off I've even squished a sniper up there. It's got to the point that this stupid tactic has become the norm and gets overused you could spend the whole game making trip after trip up there because if you don't it will spoil the fun of the game because there will always be a scrub perched up their getting cheap kills griefing everyone |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 08:14:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:you dont even need a dropship . the dropships are stupid fragile . you can kill them from the ground fairly easily. just keep blowing them up . it takes time to get back there and you get points for it.
Guess not but I wouldn't need anything if they weren't up there to begin with |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 08:43:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:and that is what i have a problem with .. all the people on here crying nerf instead of just getting on with blowing them up . i mean really . its not hard.. kill them enough times and they stop going back .. and if they dont stop .. just consider them free points
Tired of going up there and dealing with them that is all can't enjoy the game |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 09:12:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:
Tired of going up there and dealing with them that is all can't enjoy the game
i would say that thats the enemy being pretty effective then. if you are so demoralised as to stop trying they have won. you should keep in mind during all this testing what the game WILL BE not what it is now.. its a war . a real persistant war . its not cod , battlefield , crysis or killzone . at the end of the match the world has changed its not like it resets and you instantly do it again .. ( atm it does .. but when we get the eve connection it wont) look at the bigger picture and think about it . freedom to outsmart / outmanuver the enemy will be essential to keeping this game fresh and fun in the long term
not talking about just one game its every game and yes it wears on me if it was every once in a while probably wouldnt be a big deal. Guess you havent had several games where your being bombarded. |
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Posted - 2012.07.05 10:42:00 -
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James Trendall wrote:OMG is this thread still going...... its been up for almost 12hours and still going strong.....
Unless CCP tell us its a glitch its NOT a glitch.....
If you press L1 hard it flys up there on its own without rocking the dropship thus making it NOT a glitch.
Come on people just get out your forge gun 2 shots and its dead........ maybe enjoy the fact there's one less player on the field to defend/attack the objective's.....
Im not saying it dosnt **** me off as it does when you die randomly from the missile turret but then you need to deal with them....... What about if your facing a tank what do you do????? you either run away, start shooting it in the hope you kill it before it kill's you, or you die......
Its not hard to take a free dropship up there ram them off or even have a gunner and get him to destroy the dropship....
Also if you land on the tower get out of your dropship shoot the guy using the turret via the side of the dropship you get a kill and an easy hack at the same time.......
Learn to adapt to the game and how people are going to play it.
Yes i have been up on the tower and i admit its a bit of fun a break from dying alot [maybe just me] but it gets boring after a while and you start to lose your skill with a weapon. i sat up there for 2 games on the 3rd i started to use my gun and i couldnt hit the broad side of a barn.
Plus for all the people moaning about this whats going to happen when EVE start orbital strikes bombardments ect....... Are you all going to moan then...... think of this dropship as a practice orbital strike look up and round corners....
Its not COD remember we actualy need teamwork and to check our corners....
Anyway PLEASE find something new to talk about and make it a bit constructive.....
didn't read cuz its probably been said tbqh
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Posted - 2012.07.06 17:53:00 -
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GM Unicorn wrote:I think that a Swarm Launcher can solve a lot of problems in those cases!
Wrong it will handle the dropship til they hop out and call in another the only way to handle it is fly up there need to at least fix it where you can't call in a vehicle up there then I would agree the swarm or forge gun would work |
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Posted - 2012.07.06 23:18:00 -
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You know I don't care if the enemy gets up there anymore but if you played a game with me and your on my team up there I'm flying up there and flying your ship off the side or taking you for a ride across the red line done this several games already I have zero tolerance for scrubs on my team up there watch your back |
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