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SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:02:00 -
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PDlGGY22 wrote:cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit Well since you can, it is not a glitch. I dont think the lock range of a Swarm launcher would determine a glitch though.
If a weapon can shoot down from up there, a weapon can shoot up there from the ground. |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:03:00 -
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John DaMarine wrote:It happens in ALL games. Find a way to counter it, avoid it or ignore it. But just deal with it.
Or, we can point it out and let CCP make a decision if it's something that needs fixing. With threads. Just like this.
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GIZMO2606
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:07:00 -
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Next people will be QQing that you can fly on the MCC. It's not a glitch. It's rather easy to fly up there and get to it. I'm sure if CCP found it a problem to fly so high they would have added a height limit to the game that would stop you before you could fly on top of the MCC and land on it. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:07:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:John DaMarine wrote:It happens in ALL games. Find a way to counter it, avoid it or ignore it. But just deal with it. Or, we can point it out and let CCP make a decision if it's something that needs fixing. With threads. Just like this.
so lets all cry to the dev's instead of being creative and thinking of ways to counter it. |
Darius Ashran
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:07:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Basically this thread's tldr is "People are doing things that are causing my team to get blown up. I don't want to actually go stop them from doing this, so just don't let them do it at all."
Welcome to the sandbox people, CCP loves when people do dirty underhanded **** to win. Complain all you want, they'll just sit back, laugh, and tell you to adapt. Thanks for legitimizing spawn camping broksi
He did not need to=D
All tactics and strategy short of something CCP declares a direct game exploit are legit. You win or you loose there is no " i would have won if they had not done that one thing".. but they did and you lost and it within the rules so say GG and move on.
Also proto not a contradiction to your statement merely further iterating on it
Phantomnom wrote:John DaMarine wrote:It happens in ALL games. Find a way to counter it, avoid it or ignore it. But just deal with it. Or, we can point it out and let CCP make a decision if it's something that needs fixing. With threads. Just like this.
Believe it or not i actually agree with this and the moment CCP says " hey now stop that silly **** on the towers" I will be the first to jump my ass back to the ground and stay their. Until then however cheap or not victory is victory and ill take it from you if i can.
See you on the battefield gents |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:10:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Next people will be QQing that you can fly on the MCC. It's not a glitch. It's rather easy to fly up there and get to it. I'm sure if CCP found it a problem to fly so high they would have added a height limit to the game that would stop you before you could fly on top of the MCC and land on it.
Nano fitted dropship can go even higher then the rest. |
PDlGGY22
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:11:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit Forge Gun can easily hit that then. Try it out instead of complaining while you only use your "gun game"
i dont make time for scrubs, they make time for me.
Why would i go out of my way to level up a forge for 1 dude?
I couldn't careless about guys camping somewhere above or outside the map, those will be the players get destroyed every single game when the party system is patched in, meanwhile i'm still dominating infantry.
anyways, they would never hit me if they didnt drastically slow down the game |
James Trendall
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:11:00 -
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Ok so i have just sat on the tower for 3 games in a row ok yes i got a excellent K/D but i noticed that a forge gun mass driver and swarm launcher can hit you i was blown up ALOT while up there. Maybe im doing it wrong but i most definitly died up there.
Also when a drop ship comes up behind i didnt notice it untill i was falling or being shot at.
This is not a glitch and if they wanted to "FIX" this then all they need to do is lower the towers. if they lower the highet limit they will have to re do the MCC also.
I think i will carry a dropsuit fitted with a forge gun just in case this happens to me oneday.
Even tho its easyer to win if they are messing around in dropships on top of a tower and not defending the objective's |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:11:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Phantomnom wrote:John DaMarine wrote:It happens in ALL games. Find a way to counter it, avoid it or ignore it. But just deal with it. Or, we can point it out and let CCP make a decision if it's something that needs fixing. With threads. Just like this. so lets all cry to the dev's instead of being creative and thinking of ways to counter it.
No, we can test it, as we are, if it's deemed as an exploit, which some people think it is, it can be passed to CCP. Who if they feel it isn't playing as intended, will fix it. If not, we just have to counter it. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:12:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:This is already out of hand. I've been in 3 games so far today and all of them had some kid glitched on top of a skyscraper (either on our team or the enemy team) spamming the missile launcher all over the place. It turns out my heavy class could not lock on to the dropship from down below, so the only way to get rid of them is to get your own dropship up there (they normally do this on a tower close to their spawn) and hope nothing destroys you...oh ya, I also tried doing this but it turns out there is a height limit that dropships aren't supposed to fly above that I could not get past.
Ya, definitely not a glitch...
you just fail . the dropship can fly quite far above the tops of the towers easily with no special anything |
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PDlGGY22
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:13:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:cant reach it with swarms, it's a glitch/exploit Well since you can, it is not a glitch. I dont think the lock range of a Swarm launcher would determine a glitch though. If a weapon can shoot down from up there, a weapon can shoot up there from the ground.
say's the guy that never leaves his tank lol
that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either?
the best part was when I realized it was you and drove it off the roof and hopped out |
Moejoe Omnipotent
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:18:00 -
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James Trendall wrote:Ok so i have just sat on the tower for 3 games in a row ok yes i got a excellent K/D
There you have it. Even with the so called "counters" to this exploit, abusers are still able pull excellent scores doing absolutely nothing but spamming rockets at the letters all game. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:19:00 -
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PDlGGY22 wrote:
that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either?
that is a man using his head and not thinking like a cannon fodder grunt. just because someone is smart enough to do something you dont see in other games dosent make it wrong. its things like this that will make this game shine so much brighter than the standard cookie cutter fps |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:21:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either?
that is a man using his head and not thinking like a cannon fodder grunt. just because someone is smart enough to do something you dont see in other games dosent make it wrong. its things like this that will make this game shine so much brighter than the standard cookie cutter fps
That underlined part.
Quote:There you have it. Even with the so called "counters" to this exploit, abusers are still able pull excellent scores doing absolutely nothing but spamming rockets at the letters all game.
Well we know your focus. Cause he got a nice KD doesn't mean he won. |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:22:00 -
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It's funny how people support obvious problems with this game and expect you to adapt and it's just a guess but I bet it's only the EVE guys that support this garbage. |
PDlGGY22
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:23:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
that was funny when you parked your tank on a roof top, is that how tanks are intended to be used? that's not an exploit either?
that is a man using his head and not thinking like a cannon fodder grunt. just because someone is smart enough to do something you dont see in other games dosent make it wrong. its things like this that will make this game shine so much brighter than the standard cookie cutter fps
plenty of people do it, and it's been done in other games.
sorry your not the genius you think you are. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:25:00 -
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hey it wasnt me . dont start being a **** because i showed you how you were wrong |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:27:00 -
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gangsta nachos wrote:It's funny how people support obvious problems with this game and expect you to adapt and it's just a guess but I bet it's only the EVE guys that support this garbage.
Cause i've played EVE not even a year yet means i'm one of those EVE guys?
I'm for a game that makes you THINK for once.
The fact i play EVE has NOTHING to do with it. |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:30:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:It's funny how people support obvious problems with this game and expect you to adapt and it's just a guess but I bet it's only the EVE guys that support this garbage. Cause i've played EVE not even a year yet means i'm one of those EVE guys? I'm for a game that makes you THINK for once. The fact i play EVE has NOTHING to do with it. Not aimed directly at you, in general |
BorrowedTime TM
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:33:00 -
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Just thought I would throw this out there for all of those guys saying "a dropship can't fly that high"...
It can, easily and with no effort. You guys do realize that all the buttons on the dualshock (save the start/select and L3/R3) are analogue. Now this doesn't mean much with most of the functions on this game, but as it pertains to the dropship the L1 button is for the altitude thrusters... the harder you push it, the faster and higher the ship can climb. |
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PDlGGY22
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:34:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:hey it wasnt me . dont start being a **** because i showed you how you were wrong
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
oh wait.... |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:36:00 -
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BorrowedTime TM wrote:Just thought I would throw this out there for all of those guys saying "a dropship can't fly that high"...
It can, easily and with no effort. You guys do realize that all the buttons on the dualshock (save the start/select and L3/R3) are analogue. Now this doesn't mean much with most of the functions on this game, but as it pertains to the dropship the L1 button is for the altitude thrusters... the harder you push it, the faster and higher the ship can climb. dont know who said they couldn't fly that high because obviously they can maybe they meant to say they shouldn't fly that high. |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:42:00 -
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PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not .
dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit .
what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it. |
Cobalt Monkey
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:50:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not . dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit . what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it. Nothing in that says that this is intentional. It could easily be something that just didn't catch yet in the Beta. Without Word of God on it there's just no way to know.
I still maintain my earlier points from back on page two, but I also think it's pointless to argue and say this was or wasn't intentional with absolutely no way to prove it either direction. All we should really be doing is reporting it as a bug and, for those who feel it is, a balance issue. |
PDlGGY22
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:56:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not . dropping a tank on top of the MCC would be an exploit because you infact can not by design . so if you somehow manage it you have done something that the game designers do not want you to do.. the devs have made it so that if you try it refuses to send you a vehicle there. that would be an exploit . what you are complaning about is by design they are allowing people to drop vehicles on top of buildings, it can not be considered an expolit . just a design choice. i belive CCP refer to people outsmarting the enemy in unusual ways like this as emergant gameplay... and they like it.
it's not an exploit, so how come the dev's decided not to showcase this ability in any of the promotional video's?
are they saving it for near release for some super kick ass lame's that want a game they can park a tank in the sky and get easy kills? |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.04 23:56:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:PDlGGY22 wrote:
how am i wrong for thinking it's cheap and an exploit?
cheap it might be .. . but an exploit it is not .
Good point. I'm all about cheap.
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Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:04:00 -
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i see no point in continuing this conversation . you seem to have come to a DISCUSSION FORUM just to rage about something you dont like because you couldnt beat it and dont like it .. you dont want to learn how to be better or work out a way to beat it.. and your mind is obviously not open to any viewpoint but your own with regard to it not being some game breaking exploit.
all i can suggest for you is this ..
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488090_391240044273276_24262180_n.jpg |
PDlGGY22
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:06:00 -
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Squiddie Squish wrote:i see no point in continuing this conversation . you seem to have come to a DISCUSSION FORUM just to rage about something you dont like because you couldnt beat it and dont like it .. you dont want to learn how to be better or work out a way to beat it.. and your mind is obviously not open to any viewpoint but your own with regard to it not being some game breaking exploit. all i can suggest for you is this .. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488090_391240044273276_24262180_n.jpg
I can't beat it LOL
I win games and lead my team in caps and kills 99% of the time.
49kills in one game with under 3.5 in sp and never used a turret/tank/c4/ or camped with a sniper from the highest bulding
nobody in this game is "better" then me |
Squiddie Squish
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:07:00 -
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you keep telling yourself that |
Darkz azurr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2012.07.05 00:08:00 -
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i wouldnt have thought it will be a big problem when fighters are in the game. |
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