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Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12802	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:50:00 - [1] - Quote Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 155	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:55:00 - [2] - Quote i dnt hate u guys :/ Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 399	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote Well, I don't hate them. But I do hate how they brought more Proto into Pubs and how they exploited PC. To be fair, it's all CCPs fault for allowing PC be exploited in such away and not doing anything to close the trash they made. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
Doctor Day EoN Minmatar 143	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:57:00 - [4] - Quote I hate how they spam tanks,and i hate how the hog **** in pc Obvious troll is Obvious TROLOLOLOLOL HEAR MY MIGHTY TROLOLOLOL
Ridire Greine 371	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:57:00 - [5] - Quote It's funny, a lot of hatred comes from those with no ties or even previous in PC, and for some reason it bothers them. I don't see how the current state of PC bothers for the most part the 'Casual' playerbase. It's not as if the huge amounts of ISK are being shared around the alliance. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9786	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:00:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? I didn't even need to know anything about DNS except that you were in it to hate them........ no I can't hate you Arkena...... Joker Voice "You complete me" "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"* -Dagger Two
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 40	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:00:00 - [7] - Quote I hate DNS due to public matches, chasing away new players, PC isnt your fault but you still "choose" to abuse it so you are still partly to blame. I want this game to grow but as soon as new players are out of academy they quit. Its impossible to invite friends to this game. Not to say all of you are to blame but majority and they make the rest of you look bad. The ones that arent to blame should form a anti dns make a stand and help the new players out somehow give them isk squad up with them make them feel like your not all for a lack of better word f**ktards. In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 603	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:06:00 - [8] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2246	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:07:00 - [9] - Quote Personally I have no problem with DNS Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12804	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:10:00 - [10] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. There are literally dozens of trash threads like this posted every day. One was posted by a DNS member. You believe that they're all terrible people, and because of your confirmation bias you notice that one and take it as 'evidence' that you should hate DNS. If that thread is reason to hate an entire alliance, you should probably hate practically anyone who has ever posted on these forums and their entire alliances. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums

Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 203	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:12:00 - [11] - Quote Reason? Hmmm besides the team stacking, proto stomping, tank spamming, game exploiting, PC hogging and basic dough bags on the forum.... yeah not much at all. But then that is just a summary from what I've read personally I just can't stand tank spam in general. They should be removed from ambush and domination altogether and only be allowed in skirmish but that's just my opinion. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12804	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:14:00 - [12] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: Reason? Hmmm besides the team stacking, proto stomping, tank spamming, game exploiting, PC hogging and basic dough bags on the forum.... yeah not much at all. But then that is just a summary from what I've read personally I just can't stand tank spam in general. They should be removed from ambush and domination altogether and only be allowed in skirmish but that's just my opinion. DNS is hardly the only group to protostomp. And actually, I've yet to see a team stack from DNS outside of FW, which should be fair game for that. Game exploiting? Such as? Being douchebags on the forums? How many people aren't? That's hardly a reason for DNS to stick out as the most hated group. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4088	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:15:00 - [13] - Quote On one side, its the group that is the powerhouse now. People will hate the jonses if they can't keep up with them. Funny that most who hate DNS would be the first ones to jump on the opportunity if presented to them Secondly, some of the members of the alliance says some stupid crap really. Arkena, you're one of the few who has been relatively mum about it all. Meaning, I don't see you making fancy speeches and talking about matters as if you're in the war room with the higher ups like I've been seeing others do. So no doubt, that can be a part of it too. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
BigStuarty Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 14	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:17:00 - [14] - Quote This guilt by association . DNS is hugely driven by Ancient Exiles who gouged an infamous reputation of using exploits and glitches with their FOTM weapons and suits. Dont argue, have played since beta and have witnessed several occuances. Even which your CEO has dispaired at.However against the modded controllers and exploitation by Nyain San etc I kinda understand but NOT against up and coming corps...... WHY ---SHAME SECONDLY DNS was mass hijack , , we defended our district against fingerpoping .a 4 man corp .. ok they'll bring ringers in.. we fairly spawned advance and lo Ancient Exiles AND Pradox...... maybe if Kane came to the community and COMMUNICATED there could of been dialogue and maybe sign on ..... THERES AN OLD SAYING -"IT'S NOT WHAT YOU DO, IT'S THE WAY THAT YOU DO IT" To see the gloating going on is distasteful... ie 'we own moldon heath' wtf ... inBETA days you would be kicked from corp for that ...
Ridire Greine 373	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:17:00 - [15] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: Reason? Hmmm besides the team stacking, proto stomping, tank spamming, game exploiting, PC hogging and basic dough bags on the forum.... yeah not much at all. But then that is just a summary from what I've read personally I just can't stand tank spam in general. They should be removed from ambush and domination altogether and only be allowed in skirmish but that's just my opinion. Because DNS are the only ones that tank spam. The only ones that use Proto. The only ones that roll in a squad. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12804	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:18:00 - [16] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: On one side, its the group that is the powerhouse now. People will hate the jonses if they can't keep up with them. Funny that most who hate DNS would be the first ones to jump on the opportunity if presented to them See, to an extent, I can understand this. But I haven't expected quite this level of vitriol. Quote: Secondly, some of the members of the alliance says some stupid crap really. Arkena, you're one of the few who has been relatively mum about it all. Meaning, I don't see you making fancy speeches and talking about matters as if you're in the war room with the higher ups like I've been seeing others do. So no doubt, that can be a part of it too. Agreed. There are stupid posters in every large group. But is that really a reason to hate the whole? Every large group has someone posting something idiotic and inflammatory - but yet DNS is bashed on disproportionally for this. It's frustrating, and I don't know why. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Emperor1349 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 108	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:18:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them. Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments and invalid. Why you crying bro? If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you. If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3036	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:20:00 - [18] - Quote I hate everyone equally. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 376	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:21:00 - [19] - Quote I don't hate you, though some of the recent troll posts, as well as the abuse to PC are pretty meh and don't exactly help the image of the alliance. Also, just out of curiosity, are Nyain San/Chan a part of DNS? If so, I think part of your answer is there. People have hated those corps for ages, and if they became a part of the alliance, then that hate has probably simply spread itself out. A few DNS members fan the flames, and boom, full blown chaos. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Goat of Dover DROID EXILES Proficiency V. 201	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:22:00 - [20] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I hate everyone equally. That's right baby no discrimination here.

P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 605	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:26:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: P14GU3 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. There are literally dozens of trash threads like this posted every day. One was posted by a DNS member. You believe that they're all terrible people, and because of your confirmation bias you notice that one and take it as 'evidence' that you should hate DNS. If that thread is reason to hate an entire alliance, you should probably hate practically anyone who has ever posted on these forums and their entire alliances. I never said I hated DNS, but lets face it. Most of your members are clueless about being in a "non-elite" corp, or what its like to be a newberry in current Dust state. Threads like these just show the ignorance of (most of) your members about what most of the community is going through atm. Personally, i applaud DNS for trying to control molden heath. Our goal at Final Resolution is much the same. And. I believe there is a lot of ignorance on the communities part as well. I visit the war room almost just as much as you do I'm sure of it, but most of the community does not. They dont realise that you are still fighting amongst each other. They just see one big alliance controlling most of the region, and feel there is nothing that can be done about it. Partially they are right. Things have gotten so far out of hand that it will take some serious sacrificing/hand holding to get it done. Sadly, most people just want to whine about it. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 155	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:27:00 - [22] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I don't hate you, though some of the recent troll posts, as well as the abuse to PC are pretty meh and don't exactly help the image of the alliance. Also, just out of curiosity, are Nyain San/Chan a part of DNS? If so, I think part of your answer is there. People have hated those corps for ages, and if they became a part of the alliance, then that hate has probably simply spread itself out. A few DNS members fan the flames, and boom, full blown chaos. yea they are in dns. not exactly healthy when u hv the most hated corp in the most hated alliance Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
Doctor Day EoN Minmatar 144	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:28:00 - [23] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: P14GU3 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. There are literally dozens of trash threads like this posted every day. One was posted by a DNS member. You believe that they're all terrible people, and because of your confirmation bias you notice that one and take it as 'evidence' that you should hate DNS. If that thread is reason to hate an entire alliance, you should probably hate practically anyone who has ever posted on these forums and their entire alliances. I never said I hated DNS, but lets face it. Most of your members are clueless about being in a "non-elite" corp, or what its like to be a newberry in current Dust state. Threads like these just show the ignorance of (most of) your members about what most of the community is going through atm. Personally, i applaud DNS for trying to control molden heath. Our goal at Final Resolution is much the same. And. I believe there is a lot of ignorance on the communities part as well. I visit the war room almost just as much as you do I'm sure of it, but most of the community does not. They dont realise that you are still fighting amongst each other. They just see one big alliance controlling most of the region, and feel there is nothing that can be done about it. Partially they are right. Things have gotten so far out of hand that it will take some serious sacrificing/hand holding to get it done. Sadly, most people just want to whine about it. why would you run a Md on a Armarr logi? Obvious troll is Obvious TROLOLOLOLOL HEAR MY MIGHTY TROLOLOLOL
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 403	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:31:00 - [24] - Quote It's New Eden ..... Someone will always be the "villain" Right now it's DNS's turn. No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Stevilovitche What The French Red Whines. 31	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:32:00 - [25] - Quote Me, personally, I don't hate DNS
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 605	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:32:00 - [26] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: P14GU3 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. There are literally dozens of trash threads like this posted every day. One was posted by a DNS member. You believe that they're all terrible people, and because of your confirmation bias you notice that one and take it as 'evidence' that you should hate DNS. If that thread is reason to hate an entire alliance, you should probably hate practically anyone who has ever posted on these forums and their entire alliances. I never said I hated DNS, but lets face it. Most of your members are clueless about being in a "non-elite" corp, or what its like to be a newberry in current Dust state. Threads like these just show the ignorance of (most of) your members about what most of the community is going through atm. Personally, i applaud DNS for trying to control molden heath. Our goal at Final Resolution is much the same. And. I believe there is a lot of ignorance on the communities part as well. I visit the war room almost just as much as you do I'm sure of it, but most of the community does not. They dont realise that you are still fighting amongst each other. They just see one big alliance controlling most of the region, and feel there is nothing that can be done about it. Partially they are right. Things have gotten so far out of hand that it will take some serious sacrificing/hand holding to get it done. Sadly, most people just want to whine about it. why would you run a Md on a Armarr logi? MD is an awesome logi weapon, great for supportive fire, also, sidearm. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12805	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:33:00 - [27] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: I never said I hated DNS, but lets face it. Most of your members are clueless about being in a "non-elite" corp, or what its like to be a newberry in current Dust state. Threads like these just show the ignorance of (most of) your members about what most of the community is going through atm. Quite. It's really very irritating to me as someone who would not like to be seen as such an ignorant moron to see sweeping generalisations made because of these threads. Quote: Personally, i applaud DNS for trying to control molden heath. Our goal at Final Resolution is much the same. And. I believe there is a lot of ignorance on the communities part as well. I visit the war room almost just as much as you do I'm sure of it, but most of the community does not. They dont realise that you are still fighting amongst each other. They just see one big alliance controlling most of the region, and feel there is nothing that can be done about it. Partially they are right. Things have gotten so far out of hand that it will take some serious sacrificing/hand holding to get it done. Sadly, most people just want to whine about it. Alliances like this are politically unstable. I'm quite certain that this arrangement will decay eventually. How exactly it'll happen is uncertain - probably the main thing preventing splinter groups is that the rest of the group will just combine to crush them. A co-ordinated fragmentation is more likely, and that may well lead to real war. Or, people will get bored. That's what happened with EoN, after all. Unfortunately I suppose there's a great deal of hatred for the winners. Also, while most people want to just whine about the current state of affairs there are some really fantastic groups like OH and WTF which are actively bringing the fight. I actually really appreciate those guys for having a shot at it. And hey, to an extent they're succeeding - they've taken districts back. It's a shame more people aren't trying. There seems to be a build-up of people at 'Final Resolution'. It might just be my imagination, but I wish you luck. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 335	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:36:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? Honestly, the trolls and **posters are the people I hate the least. At least they are openly saying they don't give a ** and that DNS is bad for Dust. Arkena, it's the posters like you that frustrate me the most. You make topics like this asking where all the hate is from, and you should be well aware of what all the hate is for. You make justifications, maybe you even admit that there is a problem, but you just stay right where you are and hoard your ISK. The fact that you are reasonable and negotiable is the reason I dislike what you are doing, because you seemingly put aside the reason and critical thinking that I know you have, I guess because it's convenient. I'm not going to post yet another huge explanation of my reasoning, because I literally just did a few hours ago right here, in the topic I assume you are making this in response to.
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 188	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:36:00 - [29] - Quote One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag.
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 156	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:38:00 - [30] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: P14GU3 wrote: I never said I hated DNS, but lets face it. Most of your members are clueless about being in a "non-elite" corp, or what its like to be a newberry in current Dust state. Threads like these just show the ignorance of (most of) your members about what most of the community is going through atm. Quite. It's really very irritating to me as someone who would not like to be seen as such an ignorant moron to see sweeping generalisations made because of these threads. Quote: Personally, i applaud DNS for trying to control molden heath. Our goal at Final Resolution is much the same. And. I believe there is a lot of ignorance on the communities part as well. I visit the war room almost just as much as you do I'm sure of it, but most of the community does not. They dont realise that you are still fighting amongst each other. They just see one big alliance controlling most of the region, and feel there is nothing that can be done about it. Partially they are right. Things have gotten so far out of hand that it will take some serious sacrificing/hand holding to get it done. Sadly, most people just want to whine about it. Alliances like this are politically unstable. I'm quite certain that this arrangement will decay eventually. How exactly it'll happen is uncertain - probably the main thing preventing splinter groups is that the rest of the group will just combine to crush them. A co-ordinated fragmentation is more likely, and that may well lead to real war. Or, people will get bored. That's what happened with EoN, after all. Unfortunately I suppose there's a great deal of hatred for the winners. Also, while most people want to just whine about the current state of affairs there are some really fantastic groups like OH and WTF which are actively bringing the fight. I actually really appreciate those guys for having a shot at it. And hey, to an extent they're succeeding - they've taken districts back. It's a shame more people aren't trying. There seems to be a build-up of people at 'Final Resolution'. It might just be my imagination, but I wish you luck. well im working my way to get into outr heaven to help out with the war effort in pc. im also good friends with the leader since we use to play armored core V together. Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul

P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 605	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:40:00 - [31] - Quote I plan on seeing it break down eventually Arkena, in fact I have already predicted where the line will be split, but ill keep that to myself for the time being. Time is one thing us "pub scrubs" have plenty of. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4090	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:43:00 - [32] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Agreed. There are stupid posters in every large group. But is that really a reason to hate the whole? Every large group has someone posting something idiotic and inflammatory - but yet DNS is bashed on disproportionally for this. It's frustrating, and I don't know why. Not at all Arkena, but its human nature to do so. People do this with racial and social classes. I'm not excusing it, but I do acknowledge it happening. Yea, sometimes you gotta ignore people on the forums Arkena. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4090	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:44:00 - [33] - Quote Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: P14GU3 wrote: I never said I hated DNS, but lets face it. Most of your members are clueless about being in a "non-elite" corp, or what its like to be a newberry in current Dust state. Threads like these just show the ignorance of (most of) your members about what most of the community is going through atm. Quite. It's really very irritating to me as someone who would not like to be seen as such an ignorant moron to see sweeping generalisations made because of these threads. Quote: Personally, i applaud DNS for trying to control molden heath. Our goal at Final Resolution is much the same. And. I believe there is a lot of ignorance on the communities part as well. I visit the war room almost just as much as you do I'm sure of it, but most of the community does not. They dont realise that you are still fighting amongst each other. They just see one big alliance controlling most of the region, and feel there is nothing that can be done about it. Partially they are right. Things have gotten so far out of hand that it will take some serious sacrificing/hand holding to get it done. Sadly, most people just want to whine about it. Alliances like this are politically unstable. I'm quite certain that this arrangement will decay eventually. How exactly it'll happen is uncertain - probably the main thing preventing splinter groups is that the rest of the group will just combine to crush them. A co-ordinated fragmentation is more likely, and that may well lead to real war. Or, people will get bored. That's what happened with EoN, after all. Unfortunately I suppose there's a great deal of hatred for the winners. Also, while most people want to just whine about the current state of affairs there are some really fantastic groups like OH and WTF which are actively bringing the fight. I actually really appreciate those guys for having a shot at it. And hey, to an extent they're succeeding - they've taken districts back. It's a shame more people aren't trying. There seems to be a build-up of people at 'Final Resolution'. It might just be my imagination, but I wish you luck. well im working my way to get into outr heaven to help out with the war effort in pc. im also good friends with the leader since we use to play armored core V together. You have earned a like from me for the ACV mention. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7355	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:45:00 - [34] - Quote One legitimate reason, is the ever-so famous Podcast staring DNSBlack. Then you have the $#!posters, such as this guy. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12809	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:46:00 - [35] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: Honestly, the trolls and **posters are the people I hate the least. At least they are openly saying they don't give a and that DNS is bad for Dust. Arkena, it's the posters like you that frustrate me the most. You make topics like this asking where all the hate is from, and you should be well aware of what all the hate is for. You make justifications, maybe you even admit that there is a problem, but you just stay right where you are and hoard your ISK. Loads of people are saying there's a problem in DNS. Figureheads like Kane are saying there are problems. They're suggesting solutions. But really, what exactly do you expect us to do about it? Yes, we're just sitting here and 'hoarding ISK'. What else is there to do? Declare victory and meekly hand over districts to the next group who will do exactly the same thing? Quote: The fact that you are reasonable and negotiable is the reason I dislike what you are doing, because you seemingly put aside the reason and critical thinking that I know you have, I guess because it's convenient. I'm not going to post yet another huge explanation of my reasoning, because I literally just did a few hours ago right here, in the topic I assume you are making this in response to. I read that other post of yours, and I'm going to respond to it here. Quote:** In fact, DNS directly halted what was going to be one of the largest collective assaults PC had ever seen, against Nyain San's huge collection of districts. Everyone was ready for a great series of fights, but FA, LLC, and others decided that they'd rather take the easy way out and just declare that they own almost everything overnight. This is hardly correct. LLC was already a part of Nyain San's alliance, so there was hardly any reason for them to suddenly turn on them. FA had every single district permalocked by the donut for days. We fought every timer we had for days, and fielded a lot of others in Tso's including yours. Eventually, we were ground down. It's not really fair to declare that 'we took the easy way out'. We were defeated. There was little else to do. Either it was just leave and become mostly PC irrelevant, or it was join DNS, which we'd received an offer to do. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3677	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:48:00 - [36] - Quote anaboop wrote: I hate DNS due to public matches, chasing away new players, PC isnt your fault but you still "choose" to abuse it so you are still partly to blame. I want this game to grow but as soon as new players are out of academy they quit. Its impossible to invite friends to this game. Not to say all of you are to blame but majority and they make the rest of you look bad. The ones that arent to blame should form a anti dns make a stand and help the new players out somehow give them isk squad up with them make them feel like your not all for a lack of better word f**ktards. I refuse to take blame for playing the game correctly. The goal is to "win" and I'm doing everything in my power to achieve that end. If you want to blame anybody for how easily we achieve our actions, blame CCP.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12809	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:48:00 - [37] - Quote Gaelon Thrace wrote: One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag. Who is said 'diplomat'? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7358	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:50:00 - [38] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag. Who is said 'diplomat'? DNSBlack If you haven't watched the Podcast, please do so. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1657	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:51:00 - [39] - Quote I may as well be the first DNS member to hop up in here with a bad rap song. Also, before anyone else gets to shout some annoying rapper thing concerning money or sex. CASH MONEY!!! I GET BAD GIRLS ERRY DAY!!! The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4091	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:52:00 - [40] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag. Who is said 'diplomat'? Atiim wrote: One legitimate reason, is the ever-so famous Podcast staring DNSBlack. Then you have the $#!posters, such as this guy. A legitimate reason to hate DNSBlack. Frankly, I do as well. But to hate everyone in DNS just because they're in the same alliance? Because he represents you, Arkena. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?

P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 608	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:54:00 - [41] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: I may as well be the first DNS member to hop up in here with a bad rap song. Also, before anyone else gets to shout some annoying rapper thing concerning money or sex. CASH MONEY!!! I GET BAD GIRLS ERRY DAY!!! This is one of the famed panty dropper beats? Not impressed bro.. Lil wayne is pretty worn out, and future? Well hes just garbage.. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 1670	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:55:00 - [42] - Quote If you really want to know try listening to the podcast The Robot Devil posted with DNS Black on it. He's just as bad for this game as CCPs failure to design a decent PC game-mode. Individuals who appear to support him get some of his stink on them. The people I'd outright distrust are the boasters. The only people who have earned that right are What The French & OH/IH/OHA by openly standing by their convictions. Anyone with a DNS tag doing it ends up looking like a Planetary Carebear. Using a line from Hamlet, "The lady doth protest too much," the amount of effort to defend a situation is in exaggeration. Stating obvious facts is fine but when it broaches the melodramatic it's no longer entertaining, just sad. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1657	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:55:00 - [43] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: I may as well be the first DNS member to hop up in here with a bad rap song. Also, before anyone else gets to shout some annoying rapper thing concerning money or sex. CASH MONEY!!! I GET BAD GIRLS ERRY DAY!!! This is one of the famed panty dropper beats? Not impressed bro.. Lil wayne is pretty worn out, and future? Well hes just garbage.. No... I just use that song to prove a point. If you'd like, I can pull out some of my real panty droppers. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12812	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:56:00 - [44] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Because he represents you, Arkena. And yet he is not actually representative of the beliefs and opinions of myself or many others. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Ridire Greine 373	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:59:00 - [45] - Quote One of the reasons I make my ** posts is to rile the community up, I figured, if I talk enough , people will stop talking about it and start actually sending their attacks. DNS hasn't made anyone richer really, the only change to our payment is who has been paying us. Yes, people actually have to pay for the alliance ringers, so its not as if we're all good friends. The alliance will fail soon enough, its only a matter of time. And to those people complaining about Nyain San, any leader would look at 67 Districts all on one timer, and see a great opportunity to zerg and completely ** on the logistics of DNS which are already pretty bad. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4092	Posted - 2014.04.27 23:59:00 - [46] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Because he represents you, Arkena. And yet he is not actually representative of the beliefs and opinions of myself or many others. But he still represents you Arkena I know you have heard the line "you are judged by the company you keep". It is what it is. Roll with a "bad guy" you're going to look like a "bad guy". Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 411	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:00:00 - [47] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? I love us. =) "One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s. Oh wait, mk.0 Scouts do it... Oops.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 609	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:01:00 - [48] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: I may as well be the first DNS member to hop up in here with a bad rap song. Also, before anyone else gets to shout some annoying rapper thing concerning money or sex. CASH MONEY!!! I GET BAD GIRLS ERRY DAY!!! This is one of the famed panty dropper beats? Not impressed bro.. Lil wayne is pretty worn out, and future? Well hes just garbage.. No... I just use that song to prove a point. If you'd like, I can pull out some of my real panty droppers. No thanks, I have a nice collection going myself, plus im a little worried i may find myself in the nude.. Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 45	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:03:00 - [49] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: anaboop wrote: I hate DNS due to public matches, chasing away new players, PC isnt your fault but you still "choose" to abuse it so you are still partly to blame. I want this game to grow but as soon as new players are out of academy they quit. Its impossible to invite friends to this game. Not to say all of you are to blame but majority and they make the rest of you look bad. The ones that arent to blame should form a anti dns make a stand and help the new players out somehow give them isk squad up with them make them feel like your not all for a lack of better word f**ktards. I refuse to take blame for playing the game correctly. The goal is to "win" and I'm doing everything in my power to achieve that end. If you want to blame anybody for how easily we achieve our actions, blame CCP. They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse, so your just as much to blame as CCP No amount of reasoning will change that fact. Thats just like saying whoever used that fist pump glitch isnt to blme for using it, when clearly its there fault as well. Only when you yourself abuse it is it only CCPs fault. So no just no www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVUOGUmxJI incase I wasnt clear In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 401	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:03:00 - [50] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag. Who is said 'diplomat'? Atiim wrote: One legitimate reason, is the ever-so famous Podcast staring DNSBlack. Then you have the $#!posters, such as this guy. A legitimate reason to hate DNSBlack. Frankly, I do as well. But to hate everyone in DNS just because they're in the same alliance? Because he represents you, Arkena. This is so true. When I was in Marching Band and went on The L.A Tour, our Drum Major said this "While you're wearing that shirt you are representing all of North California, what you say or do out there is what they will remember us by." When you are part of any group every single one of you are representing it, and when one of you does or says something foul, it is blamed on the group as a whole. Choose wisely who represents you... Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1657	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:04:00 - [51] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: I may as well be the first DNS member to hop up in here with a bad rap song. Also, before anyone else gets to shout some annoying rapper thing concerning money or sex. CASH MONEY!!! I GET BAD GIRLS ERRY DAY!!! This is one of the famed panty dropper beats? Not impressed bro.. Lil wayne is pretty worn out, and future? Well hes just garbage.. No... I just use that song to prove a point. If you'd like, I can pull out some of my real panty droppers. No thanks, I have a nice collection going myself, plus im a little worried i may find myself in the nude.. How many? I've got about maybe 40 or more that I've posted in FA's private library. My main genre revolves around R&B music, you know, black guys singing (on average, they're better then white dudes). I'm always on the search for more and more. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1309	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:06:00 - [52] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? Everyone always hated the top corps. Since they all banded together they get hate and disgust from the vast majority of players. I asked a few Wolves if we should look into joining, they were down. So its jealousy too it seems. I called them pussies. We made this corp so we could have some shelter from the cesspool of new Eden. I personally don't care about what they do, if embracing the opposition is easier than fighting them more power to em, literally. I am disappointed in the two wolves who want to be part of the donut, they constantly ***** about proto stomping, but would join in it too. Oh well New Eden turns good people into douches. Crush them
noobsniper the 2nd Inner.Hell 457	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:08:00 - [53] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: P14GU3 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. There are literally dozens of trash threads like this posted every day. One was posted by a DNS member. You believe that they're all terrible people, and because of your confirmation bias you notice that one and take it as 'evidence' that you should hate DNS. If that thread is reason to hate an entire alliance, you should probably hate practically anyone who has ever posted on these forums and their entire alliances. anaboop wrote: I hate DNS due to public matches, chasing away new players, PC isnt your fault but you still "choose" to abuse it so you are still partly to blame. I want this game to grow but as soon as new players are out of academy they quit. Its impossible to invite friends to this game. Not to say all of you are to blame but majority and they make the rest of you look bad. The ones that arent to blame should form a anti dns make a stand and help the new players out somehow give them isk squad up with them make them feel like your not all for a lack of better word f**ktards. Is it only DNS responsible for this? I go into pub matches alone the vast majority of the time and see stomp squads everywhere that aren't part of DNS. There is a terrible NPE. This is not caused purely by DNS. This is caused by a huge number of things - a complete lack of explanations or tutorials, terrible starting gear, and stomp squads - not just ones from DNS, but any squad will inevitably wreck a new player. What about PC is it that we're 'abusing'? It's a terrible system that we've mostly 'won'. There are no bugs or exploits currently involved. Should we choose not to 'abuse it'? What do we do then? Abandon all our districts so someone else can do exactly the same thing? im sorry, to stomp is in my nature if I can I will I just like doing well sorry new berrys "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7359	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:08:00 - [54] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Atiim wrote: One legitimate reason, is the ever-so famous Podcast staring DNSBlack. Then you have the $#!posters, such as this guy. A legitimate reason to hate DNSBlack. Frankly, I do as well. But to hate everyone in DNS just because they're in the same alliance? Sadly, this is human nature. I a few people do something immoral or unfavorable, everyone in the group will be looked down upon and disliked. Just imagine the US President saying "I hate Asians & Hispanics!" How do you think people would view the United States after saying that? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7364	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:10:00 - [55] - Quote anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Absolon Gainne Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 50	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:13:00 - [56] - Quote If you do not want to suffer hate for being in DNS, perhaps you should start pushing to change attitudes internally. If people like the ones in the linked thread were reprimanded for being badposters, you would see a lot less hate directed towards DNS. Instead, the fact that DNS players can keep shitting on other Dust players means that the alliance implicitly endorses this behaviour, and so the anger will continue to be directed at you. Also, it doesn't help that your alliance typically rolls through pub matches with proto gear (seemingly not giving a damn about ensuring newbros don't burn out), but again, that goes back to the attitude change I was talking about. If you are going to complain "but, but, it's too harrrd to change attitudes!!!", it really isn't: a squad or two consistently correcting others and preventing them from pubstomping/badposting would quickly spread change through your corp, and once you do that, you can get your leadership to affect wider change throughout your alliance. Grab a few of your friends and get started. Of course, if you do not want to do this and would rather continue the status quo, then go for it, but don't complain that DNS members are disliked in the wider community. Edit: Of course DNS isn't the only one to protostomp, but saying that "Oh, but other people do it too, so we can do it!" won't do anything to help your image. If you don't protostomp (by avoiding killing low-level players), your alliance could become the paragon of good sportsmanship, and just maybe shame other alliances into stopping.
General John Ripper 20578	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:15:00 - [57] - Quote Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? I was abused a little. Stop liking my posts! Your killing me!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!! :D Twitter: IAmJohnRipper
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 336	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:15:00 - [58] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Loads of people are saying there's a problem in DNS. Figureheads like Kane are saying there are problems. They're suggesting solutions. But really, what exactly do you expect us to do about it? Yes, we're just sitting here and 'hoarding ISK'. What else is there to do? Declare victory and meekly hand over districts to the next group who will do exactly the same thing? I read that other post of yours, and I'm going to respond to it here. Quote: In fact, DNS directly halted what was going to be one of the largest collective assaults PC had ever seen, against Nyain San's huge collection of districts. Everyone was ready for a great series of fights, but FA, LLC, and others decided that they'd rather take the easy way out and just declare that they own almost everything overnight. This is hardly correct. LLC was already a part of Nyain San's alliance, so there was hardly any reason for them to suddenly turn on them. FA had every single district permalocked by the donut for days. We fought every timer we had for days, and fielded a lot of others in Tso's including yours. Eventually, we were ground down. It's not really fair to declare that 'we took the easy way out'. We were defeated. There was little else to do. Either it was just leave and become mostly PC irrelevant, or it was join DNS, which we'd received an offer to do. I don't really expect you to do something about what is happening in PC, what's done is done. I still don't like seeing you acting all confused and insulted when you are reprimanded for it, though. There's no reason to go giving back districts or ISK, but you should recognize that it isn't good and that until things change you will be reprimanded for it. If you can't deal with that, then maybe you're in the wrong place. I was citing LLC as being another corp on the NS side of the deal, my wording was a bit weird and I was a bit unclear on that. FA losing their districts would not have mate them PC irrelevant, OH has shown (I'll admit, much to my surprise), that it is possible to make some progress against DNS. So, no, joining DNS wasn't your only option. Having FA on the right side of things alone would have completely changed the way of thinking that I now possess. FA was the one ally that we had in the beginning of DNS's takeover that still gave me hope that it was possible to make progress against them. The fact that someone has been able to at least get their foot in the door shows that your "DNS or irrelevance" argument is baseless.
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 45	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:17:00 - [59] - Quote Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? If you have to ask that then clearly,you think what you have done is ok. And there is no point saying anyhting ,i could call you anything or say anything and u will say no theres nothing wrong with it In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 609	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:18:00 - [60] - Quote Well considering ive been collecting music since I was about 6 years old, and im 28 now, I'd say i have a nice collection. Here is the first song that I remember getting me into R&B/Hip-Hop http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FLYbTAi1log Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7365	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [61] - Quote anaboop wrote: Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? If you have to ask that then clearly,you think what you have done is ok. And there is no point saying anyhting ,i could call you anything or say anything and u will say no theres nothing wrong with it So nothing I assume? Can anyone here state what DNS abused? Or is everyone here simply spewing propaganda looking to slander our reputation? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 695	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:27:00 - [62] - Quote Hate DNS? No. The only thing that irks me about them--as others have pointed out--is the concept of PC being restricted to those with DNS tags, if all (allegedly) goes to plan. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
Ridire Greine 374	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:31:00 - [63] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Hate DNS? No. The only thing that irks me about them--as others have pointed out--is the concept of PC being restricted to those with DNS tags, if all (allegedly) goes to plan. It will never happen. Only reason DNSBlack said something like that is to try show how he has some 'Connection' to DUST to strengthen his CSM campaign. The alliance will disband before something as stupid as that happens. AE, NS, FA, and ERA all in the same alliance? Its never going to last. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:34:00 - [64] - Quote PC could have been regulated by the player-base, but some idiots always break the toys. DNS grew like a terrible cancer and people like Kane Spero, and Kujo would have you believe that they are trying to cure the cancer they in fact created. Blaming the system rather than admitting their own myopic greed. DNS is a joke. DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. My hats off to Outer Heaven and What the French for preventing your idiocy full fruition. It's brings me great joy to see that even when playing it as dishonorable as you can, DNS is still failing. When the smoke clears. We will remember who the villains are. Maybe your ALTs will have more dignity. Maybe your shell corporations will be ran with some shred of reserve and intelligence. We can pickle that.
TunRa Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 575	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:38:00 - [65] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? I was abused a little. I WILL ABUSE YOU MORE! Thanks CCP Foxfour MAG vet: SVER
TunRa Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 575	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:39:00 - [66] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: PC could have been regulated by the player-base, but some idiots always break the toys. DNS grew like a terrible cancer and people like Kane Spero, and Kujo would have you believe that they are trying to cure the cancer they in fact created. Blaming the system rather than admitting their own myopic greed. DNS is a joke. DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. My hats off to Outer Heaven and What the French for preventing your idiocy full fruition. It's brings me great joy to see that even when playing it as dishonorable as you can, DNS is still failing. When the smoke clears. We will remember who the villains are. Maybe your ALTs will have more dignity. Maybe your shell corporations will be ran with some shred of reserve and intelligence. Thanks CCP Foxfour MAG vet: SVER
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 696	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:41:00 - [67] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: Hate DNS? No. The only thing that irks me about them--as others have pointed out--is the concept of PC being restricted to those with DNS tags, if all (allegedly) goes to plan. It will never happen. Only reason DNSBlack said something like that is to try show how he has some 'Connection' to DUST to strengthen his CSM campaign. The alliance will disband before something as stupid as that happens. AE, NS, FA, and ERA all in the same alliance? Its never going to last. Oh, I know that DNS will crumble before too long...someone's going to HAVE to prove that they're top dog eventually. There's quite a few trolls and people with short tempers in the alliance and an implosion is inevitable; my money's on NS finally getting annoyed enough by the "alliance-hopping/hiding behind timers" insults to strike out on their own. Hmm...I'm surprised nobody's started up a contest to pick the first break in the alliance. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4342	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:42:00 - [68] - Quote I don't hate them as much as I loath them..... Infinite isk....infinite proto.....infinite fun.....infinite pub stomps..... Man I wich I had access to some of that isk Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:47:00 - [69] - Quote TunRa wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS is a joke. It's okay to be ashamed of yourself. I mean being good at something and paying other people to be good at for you are pretty much the same thing...right? We can pickle that.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 450	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:49:00 - [70] - Quote Rein in Himiko and kick Nyain San out and Most of the forums will stop whinging. Seriously, just destroy Nyain San, the amount of good publicity you'll get for it will vastly trump whatever you gain from keeping them around. Closed Beta Vet since May 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 4469	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:59:00 - [71] - Quote Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
General John Ripper 20581	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:01:00 - [72] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Teach me how to be elite. Stop liking my posts! Your killing me!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!! :D Twitter: IAmJohnRipper
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 219	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:02:00 - [73] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: It's funny, a lot of hatred comes from those with no ties or even previous in PC, and for some reason it bothers them. I don't see how the current state of PC bothers for the most part the 'Casual' playerbase. It's not as if the huge amounts of ISK are being shared around the alliance. its not because they dominate pc specifically, but that the isk that they earn goes back into a nearly endless supply of proto suits in public matches. the fact that they take the challenge out of a public match is what unsettles the vast majority of the player community, especially those who cannot use, or afford, the high tier gear to compete in even the most basic form of this game. the PC results not only affect the Pc districts, but the rest of the gameplay as well Pilot // Scout
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:33:00 - [74] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. We can pickle that.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4473	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:44:00 - [75] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Kane Fyea 2635	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:46:00 - [76] - Quote I have no problem with DNS (Although I do think it's shitty that they own pretty much 100% of pc) If I have a problem with you its because of who you are not who you are fighting under.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 736	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:00:00 - [77] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. "Trying to do good." "I may want to help" You can't even commit to pretending to be good. I have no resentment. I am just making sure you DNS blues don't forget that you're the villains. We can pickle that.
Scheneighnay McBob T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 4966	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:05:00 - [78] - Quote I personally don't have a problem with DNS, but I think it would do your public image good to kick out nyan san and beat the **** out of them for exploiting every known exploit. Shouldn't be hard- I've seen them in pubs and would actually consider them to be a mid-tier corp as far as being combat effective. /timetravel Best thread of all time
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4474	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:06:00 - [79] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. "Trying to do good." "I may want to help" You can't even commit to pretending to be good. I have no resentment. I am just making sure you DNS blues don't forget that you're the villains. You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1323	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:14:00 - [80] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Rein in Himiko and kick Nyain San out and Most of the forums will stop whinging. Seriously, just destroy Nyain San, the amount of good publicity you'll get for it will vastly trump whatever you gain from keeping them around. It would go a long way with the community. They are the poop the bacteria forms upon. Three levels below the scum that inhabits New Eden. Crush them

Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 650	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:20:00 - [81] - Quote DNS would be fine if they were an alliance that beat all other alliances and took over PC. But that's not what happened. You guys were a bunch of solid corps that decided hoarding isk was more fun than the game so you all joined together. That's the problem. Go through the top corp leader board. It's all DNs. That's be impressive if you all started off together and reached the top. You guys aren't the best because you're together, you're together because your the best. And that is why people dislike you. Look not everyone can participate in this game at the top level. Be it skill or time, a lot of us can't really expect to be top corps. But I love reading EVE war stories, or follow the pC battle when PC first launched. But there's no epic war in DUST because everyone capable of fighting at that level decided ISK farming was more fun. DNS is what might actually spark me and my friends to drop our silly friendly corp and join a real corp to maybe get into PC. But who am I kidding, I have a job wife and kid, can't exactly participate in PC battles with 4am timers anyway.
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 313	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:41:00 - [82] - Quote attention wh0ring to the highest degree, why did you make this thread?
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 738	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:59:00 - [83] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. Being divided sucks. Half the community thinks DNS is opportunistic cancer scum. The other half thinks DNS is protostomping arrogant douches. I don't see why we all can't just agree that DNS is opportunistic cancerous protostomping arrogant douche scum. Now we can all agree. "Tunnel vision" Only when I'm looking at you guys down in that hole you dug. We can pickle that.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2425	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:13:00 - [84] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Well, I don't hate them. But I do hate how they brought more Proto into Pubs and how they exploited PC. To be fair, it's all CCPs fault for allowing PC be exploited in such away and not doing anything to close the trash they made. um top players were using proto in pubs in closed beta. ccp tried a gear tiered system and it failed terribly. Plus with the way isk pay outs are done now the proto players would make a ton of isk and the milita players would make almost nothing. Add to that all the legacy isk top players have from 1 year of pc passive isk farming and you only make things worse. I would like to point out though that I have always made isk running proto in pubs. Good players like to squad with other good players especially those of us that play in PC all the time. You know what to do, how to do it, and do it very well. Just last night I rolled in a squad with a random group of players for dns and we won just about every match even against 2 squads. Well except for the few ambush we played against 2 sqauds including tankspam-San. That was a bit much, but even then it was close matches. I have 3 alts that no one knows me and i play solo with randoms all the time. Even use the squad finder to get groups and the one thing I have learned is that the vast majority of dust players are terrible, dont understand fps tatics and strats, cant shoot and strafe at same time, and are ***** feel entitled to run a 5 kdr. I was recently in a squad with players that went up against a squad from FA on the other side. We had 2 other squads on our side from venzula corp and science for death(sp?) and we almost won. What i saw is the randoms i played with just complained about proto gear, which btw they used too but they didnt want to use them against top players and lose a bunch. What funny is they get wrecked and suddenly its glitchers, cloaky shotgunners, hacks, lag issues, hit detection, and protostompers. It was never, not once, not 1 ***** time that the other team or players were better than they were. I run solo a lot and the NPE and solo players exp is terrible at times. During peak times its fine to run solo becaue you get a lot of all solo player matches. On wed night you get lots of 2 squads a side and solo players will get smashed. Hell one scrub told me if you don't select NA region you dont get put against the good squads as much. Yup same guy who uses proto gear against nobodies and complains when others do. Proto gear isn't the problem its the game modes, small player base, and most importantly player entitlement mentality. o7 Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 19	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:19:00 - [85] - Quote I don't hate DNS or anyone having to do with it, a lot of us shouldn't. However, a lot of people don't like the fact that DNS(mainly Niyan San/Chan) basically removed 1/3 of the multiplayer aspect of DUST514. Now I do agree with a lot of people that CCP needs to expand how many planets one can fight over in PC, but DNS taking it so far as to remove a lot of the competition from the current PC to attempt to motivate CCP to add more planets? This is how it looks like, and quite a few people on voice chat say the same thing in game, but was it really THAT necessary?
Admonishment RisingSuns Dark Taboo 173	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:28:00 - [86] - Quote I hate the DNS....server not responding message. I don't always win 1v1 but... when I don't, I cry for nerfs. Stay nerfing my friends.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2425	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:29:00 - [87] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: I don't hate DNS or anyone having to do with it, a lot of us shouldn't. However, a lot of people don't like the fact that DNS(mainly Niyan San/Chan) basically removed 1/3 of the multiplayer aspect of DUST514. Now I do agree with a lot of people that CCP needs to expand how many planets one can fight over in PC, but DNS taking it so far as to remove a lot of the competition from the current PC to attempt to motivate CCP to add more planets? This is how it looks like, and quite a few people on voice chat say the same thing in game, but was it really THAT necessary? You know i was against the 100% ** but what we realized after we started it is that there are very few top corps in dust and that they CAN take what they want. This isn't a product of how good the dns corps are. Its a true reflection of how bad the rest of the corps are. Only teams doing anything against dns are WTF and OH which are both vet players with lots of PC exp and the only reason they are in it is because they are self locking their districts to force clone pack attacks. If you add more districts it wont make the game better because you will get just a herd of average corps that try to farm isk instead of fight. pc 1.0 needs to be dumped 100% owning ** and passive isk need to be gone from dust forever. Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:33:00 - [88] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Miokai Zahou wrote: Reason? Hmmm besides the team stacking, proto stomping, tank spamming, game exploiting, PC hogging and basic dough bags on the forum.... yeah not much at all. But then that is just a summary from what I've read personally I just can't stand tank spam in general. They should be removed from ambush and domination altogether and only be allowed in skirmish but that's just my opinion. DNS is hardly the only group to protostomp. And actually, I've yet to see a team stack from DNS outside of FW, which should be fair game for that. Game exploiting? Such as? Being douchebags on the forums? How many people aren't? That's hardly a reason for DNS to stick out as the most hated group. Easy answer: you can simply hate a group for that. I'll even be purer in my statements: I'm a realist and I have realistic expectations. There's nothing to stop you from protostomping if you choose. You aren't the first nor will be the last. But, as the realism kicks in, don't ever approach a forum with the "why me because it's not only me" attitude expecting a degree of absolution because it's the equivalent of saying that while you are in fact in a dominant position you continue the status quo because everyone else has also taken the same attitude. It's this VERY ATTITUDE that does directly continue to kill and ward off the ability of this game to be a success for the long term future. Putting that forward, a lot of corps should be hated for that and the one's who deserve to be hated the most are the one's who come to forums preaching as if they were as innocent of anything like Madonna singing "Like A Virgin". I mean really, you need to come to the forums to point this out and ask why? Do we suffer from an internal sense of insecurity and curiosity that you must ask? Would the US have to ask Russia why they hate them so much right now? I mean really because you did just that. And for the record saying "everyone else does it and someone else will also do it" is the same as saying "we'd rather not change to avoid anyone else doing it". Don't BS the excuses and simply put it forward as it is. Women hate that ya know and have podded more men than than the number of quafe drinks served in the galaxy.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7374	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:33:00 - [89] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. I've never run full PRO in a PUB before (except AV). Though I do wish the competition was better. i don't see how popping tanks and running ADV gear 24/7 destroys the NPE. Finance is the only attrition DNS plays by? So we gained over 90% of MH by flaunting our ISK to wear down our enemies? What shady tactics? Is attacking a district and actually fighting considered shady nowadays? Man. I wish I could be a full protostomping, NPE destroying, shady dude who wins by smacking their opponents around with ISK; just like the peps in DNS. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 739	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:49:00 - [90] - Quote Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. I've never run full PRO in a PUB before (except AV). Though I do wish the competition was better. i don't see how popping tanks and running ADV gear 24/7 destroys the NPE. Finance is the only attrition DNS plays by? So we gained over 90% of MH by flaunting our ISK to wear down our enemies? What shady tactics? Is attacking a district and actually fighting considered shady nowadays? Man. I wish I could be a full protostomping, NPE destroying, shady dude who wins by smacking their opponents around with ISK; just like the peps in DNS. Oh please, tell me how you're so much better than the rest of your alliance. I hate that you guys aren't getting payed like the big three in DNS. Sorry. Have fun under the thumb scum. We can pickle that.

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7374	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:55:00 - [91] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Oh please, tell me how you're so much better than the rest of your alliance. I hate that you guys aren't getting payed like the big three in DNS. Sorry. Have fun under the thumb scum. Do you honestly believe that what you said encompasses everyone within DNS? I'm pretty sure HvLP is being paid. Heck, as of last week there are only 4 guys in my corp who aren't being paid. Any other meaningless insults you want to spew which have little to no facts behind? I'd rather be the scum under someone's thumb than the teardrop under someone's eyelid. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4483	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:58:00 - [92] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. Being divided sucks. Half the community thinks DNS is opportunistic cancer scum. The other half thinks DNS is protostomping arrogant douches. I don't see why we all can't just agree that DNS is opportunistic cancerous protostomping arrogant douche scum. Now we can all agree. "Tunnel vision" Only when I'm looking at you guys down in that hole you dug. You realize your attempt at a smart ass comment actually just admits that I'm right? "Yea, because you guys dug a hole, now I'm too emo to see anywhere else." Well, thanks I guess? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4484	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:02:00 - [93] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. I've never run full PRO in a PUB before (except AV). Though I do wish the competition was better. i don't see how popping tanks and running ADV gear 24/7 destroys the NPE. Finance is the only attrition DNS plays by? So we gained over 90% of MH by flaunting our ISK to wear down our enemies? What shady tactics? Is attacking a district and actually fighting considered shady nowadays? Man. I wish I could be a full protostomping, NPE destroying, shady dude who wins by smacking their opponents around with ISK; just like the peps in DNS. Oh please, tell me how you're so much better than the rest of your alliance. I hate that you guys aren't getting payed like the big three in DNS. Sorry. Have fun under the thumb scum. Are you enjoying being under our thumb, scrub? HvLP > ML. We're not even a month old and we'd hand you your guys's booty 10 out of 10. Git gud before you start talking crap, especially to my members. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 207	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:11:00 - [94] - Quote I hated you guys but now its just a very strong dislike Why i hated: 1. Some of you were Moral less assholes on the forums for a while (90% of the post were HTFU or "as long as i get my isk idfc" 2. Protostomp protostomp protostomp 3. The ***** in game spam of random ** i mean my god...2 seconds into battle and you got 4 tanks with nano/spawners everywhere to the point i could play ambush cause i couldn't move 4.the ego....im surprised your heads didn't explode from all the ego 5.the lieing (yes lieing, "we aren't chasing of new players we are bring them into our corps") 6.generally just ruining the game for everyone 7.chasing of new players What cause me to not hate you as much 1. Some have come to their senses and are actually trying to help the community 2. Not as big as assholes (still assholes thou sometimes) 3. Ego has deflated 4. Ive noticed some of you are running adv. And militia now instead of proto all the time 5. Ive played with one of you DNS before....he said he hated you guys...he was only there still cause of all the isk 6. Noticing more new players....not alot...most still leaving...but some more are staying 7. Somethings going on with you guys lately....mishmosh teams are actually redlining you guys.....i dont understand but i like it....its giving us hope that we are actually turning this -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2211	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:13:00 - [95] - Quote I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. this game makes me sad....
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4485	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:16:00 - [96] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 269	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:21:00 - [97] - Quote Well one reason is that once CCP made your auto-locking system unprofitable you decided to find a new way to exploit PC by making a pact with a few of the top corps so that you could continue the easy mode. Any instance where you is used, it is referring to DNS not any single player in it. PvE 2014
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 7377	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:21:00 - [98] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) I believe a little bit of hate is good for the game. It's what drives conflict, creates wars, and fuels the competitive nature and attitudes PC is supposed to thrive on. However when you find yourself at a point where you mindlessly rage and refuse to converse with a certain group of people due to the label on their tags, it's a sign that things have gone a bit too far. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Beartrocity TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:28:00 - [99] - Quote I have the DNS mentality. When I was Mr. Blueberry Nobody I didn't *** or moan about proto gear. Would you like to know why? Because that player has earned the right to play with it. I didn't spend close to 3 mil on a suit and 2.5 on a weapon to let it just sit there. The only thing you people are truely unhappy about is the fact that we can do it without losing money. If you want money, get a district. You want a district, take one. If WTF can beat us then I suppose about anyone can cause they are absolutely garbage. The only other corp I have an inkling of respect for would be Outer.Heaven/Inner.Hell. OH never gets on the forums and bashes when they lose, they come back the next time with a strat and Defend their . I guess the point I'm trying to make is. Keep putting forum posts/sending mail in game. We have an archive of funny ** people have said to us and we have an even longer memory. Most importantly tho, we don't flippin' care what you think.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 619	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:30:00 - [100] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people The forums are more reliable than my spais :(

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4489	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:34:00 - [101] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 654	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:35:00 - [102] - Quote Hatred can be good for the game yeah. Imperfects and NF had the right level of hate for them. When I saw imps in a match I used to put on my A game and know the match was going to be impacted by them huge. Imps earned their hate/respect. It feels like most of DNS is made up of all the second tier corps that just rolled over and bowed down to the top tier. Only corps in DNS that really had that same imp vibe before DNS are FA, AE and teamplayers. I'm sure the others have thier top PC squads too, but they are a lot less elite/intimidating.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7377	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:38:00 - [103] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Only corps in DNS that really had that same imp vibe before DNS are FA, AE and teamplayers. I'm sure the others have thier top PC squads too, but they are a lot less elite/intimidating. I'd put RND up there too. Though from the looks of it, HvLP is going to become the next FA Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 619	Posted - 2014.04.28 04:45:00 - [104] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? See, i respect you as a hyper-troll and hella good player, but i just cannt take you at your word yet on the help thing. There are so many things you could do: Push for longer reinforcement windows, make clone packs larger (this i guess is the only thing kane brought to CCP :( ) Tune down auto-isk'ing or just straight make it a manual system. Crack the donut. Start it over, try a conquest from after shattering the isk-overlords Not boost in FW matches; looking at you penlongis. Not sperg everytime someone posts an anti-DNS thread, keep it calm, throw some lulz at someone for good measure (Atiim is really good at this) Help us SoTaPoP Kenobi, you're our last hope. Seriously need more beer. :( *EDIT: your signature, funniest one i've seen today The forums are more reliable than my spais :(
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.04.28 05:44:00 - [105] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Well, I don't hate them. But I do hate how they brought more Proto into Pubs and how they exploited PC. To be fair, it's all CCPs fault for allowing PC be exploited in such away and not doing anything to close the trash they made. All of that. The way i see it you cant exchange isk for dollars. Its all just a game. If i lose a pub match its fine. Im not that great of a player. But when im playing a match for fun and there are 6 tank/ads plus a squad of protos it ruins it. These matches last 4-5 minutes. It really ruins the whole experience. Are they that much fun for you guys too? Its the game mechanics that is being exploited, and that has made it easy for you. If that can be agreed upon then have your squads run adv suits only on pubs. No tanks either. Prove yourselves with your rifles in hand. You would gain my respect by doing that. Until then i see DNS as a bunch of wealthy trolls
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4499	Posted - 2014.04.28 05:52:00 - [106] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? See, i respect you as a hyper-troll and hella good player, but i just cannt take you at your word yet on the help thing. There are so many things you could do: Push for longer reinforcement windows, make clone packs larger (this i guess is the only thing kane brought to CCP :( ) Tune down auto-isk'ing or just straight make it a manual system. Crack the donut. Start it over, try a conquest from after shattering the isk-overlords Not boost in FW matches; looking at you penlongis. Not sperg everytime someone posts an anti-DNS thread, keep it calm, throw some lulz at someone for good measure (Atiim is really good at this) Help us SoTaPoP Kenobi, you're our last hope. Seriously need more beer. :( EDIT: your signature, funniest one i've seen today The person I vote for on CPM will be a person who will be pushing for larger clone packs, more clone pack options, a better way for NPE to integrate into PC to effect it in some small way to larger corps advantage, replace auto-isk with manual isk, and a system where corps can use a cool down to reinforce a single district with clones. As for cracking the donut... It's not happening, but it's not going to last either. I'm praying fanfest changes something so we aren't forced to do it ourselves. But something WILL change. Hope is for those who care for this game and want to try to be something and do something. It is not for those who do not have that fire in your belly. Community - I say this to you. WORK TOGETHER. 3 mass attacks have already been tried, and they didn't do a single thing. They didn't even leave the red line. There is a ton of talent in this game that can face us, a ton. Stop looking at someones KDR, start looking at how they engage a fight. Do they jump? How did they strafe? When they strafe do there shots start missing? Find the talent - it's there, they don't have squads so they do **** in pubs - HELP THEM!!!!!! The ISK made from taxes alone in corps like Faction Warfare Army, Molon Labe, and Sver True Blood makes them as much money as if holding several planets. There are avenues of ISK to use - you are not helpless! If you need inspiration, come, talk to me, I will inspire you to hate me or love me, but I will get you to do something. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2212	Posted - 2014.04.28 05:57:00 - [107] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? well for starters take anyone with the dns tag from this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=157761&find=unread then read some of their forum history.... is this ok with you? is this the dns attitude? this game makes me sad....
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4499	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:00:00 - [108] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? well for starters take anyone with the dns tag from this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=157761&find=unread then read some of their forum history.... is this ok with you? is this the dns attitude? That's a general Vet attitude from closed beta players who've invested a lot in this game, not a DNS thing. and no, it's not okay, read the last page in that thread. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 744	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:03:00 - [109] - Quote DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it. As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon. Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior. I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment. If you want to distance yourself there is only one way. We can pickle that.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1352	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:39:00 - [110] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: I think the hatred comes from 2 places.... 1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp 2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone two good reasons to hate them.... now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum... if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it. No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) I used to hate imps. Talking with mith changed that. I realized imps were a stress I could just shut off. It changed the game for me. I actually came to respect a few of you. How can I play with the people I enjoy being with when they have long since quit dust? I have my Wolves now but the majority of my RLfriends won't play because it sucks. I had a squad with my two brothers today. One is new one is from open beta. They played three matches before it was Netflix time. We all live in different cities so the half hour I got to hang was cool. I doubt I can get them back Dust is not fun. Many people are sacrificed so we can have better stats. A whole game mode is sacrificed for some ego. It is difficult to see anything done by vets in a positive light. the bonuses for being here longer are great until you realize its killing the game. Instead of building a community Alot of us are fortifying a small percentage of it. Its war right? Well not technically. Its peace and subjugation. Only the power that DNS has is ruling a small aspect of a small game. People might come to the conclusion they can turn your entire alliance off and read a book or play a game where the developers QA the product they develop. Crush them

BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 139	Posted - 2014.04.28 09:45:00 - [111] - Quote I only use proto when I get proto'd but I get hate mail because... well. <--------------------- Even though we have the smallest amount of dust side players in the alliance. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4504	Posted - 2014.04.28 09:53:00 - [112] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it. As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon. Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior. I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment. If you want to distance yourself there is only one way. Pretend? The best players in this game 'pretend' to be bad assess? You really just want to just get crapped on. I don't care what happens from this point on, Molon Lobe won't ever be land owners again. I do not play nice to fags who cry and do nothing but shout tears in everyones faces without doing anything in game to show they're any different. You're a scrub, will always be a scrub, and I have no reason to defend DNS against trash like you. You can take this as a declaration of war between HvLP and Molon Lube. Not that it matters since you guys will likely never try for PC again, you've learned your place. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1362	Posted - 2014.04.28 10:01:00 - [113] - Quote How can you hate this poor brit!? all I do is direct people to animations that give you feels and casually insult everyone in a snotty English way. But I am one of those who uses proto in pubs. Why you ask? Well im solo alot, have just over 400 hp and I bring proto flux uplinks to the parties in dom I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1362	Posted - 2014.04.28 10:03:00 - [114] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it. As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon. Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior. I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment. If you want to distance yourself there is only one way. Pretend? The best players in this game 'pretend' to be bad assess? You really just want to just get crapped on. I don't care what happens from this point on, Molon Lobe won't ever be land owners again. I do not play nice to fags who cry and do nothing but shout tears in everyones faces without doing anything in game to show they're any different. You're a scrub, will always be a scrub, and I have no reason to defend DNS against trash like you. You can take this as a declaration of war between HvLP and Molon Lube. Not that it matters since you guys will likely never try for PC again, you've learned your place. they seem to follow you around in every thread. Sota got a (many) stalkers XD I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2014.04.28 10:47:00 - [115] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it. As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon. Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior. I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment. If you want to distance yourself there is only one way. Pretend? The best players in this game 'pretend' to be bad assess? You really just want to just get crapped on. I don't care what happens from this point on, Molon Lobe won't ever be land owners again. I do not play nice to fags who cry and do nothing but shout tears in everyones faces without doing anything in game to show they're any different. You're a scrub, will always be a scrub, and I have no reason to defend DNS against trash like you. You can take this as a declaration of war between HvLP and Molon Lube. Not that it matters since you guys will likely never try for PC again, you've learned your place. You know I'm right. You can be mad at me all you want it doesn't change that fact. I never cried about it, , I called DNS what it was. A financed coup and player created cancer. The fact that you have no legs to stand on when defending it proves my point. You can lash out all you want, it won't bring your honor back. We can pickle that.
Patrick57 7173	Posted - 2014.04.28 10:50:00 - [116] - Quote I lol'ed at this thread. Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
Patrick57 7173	Posted - 2014.04.28 10:51:00 - [117] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: well for starters take anyone with the dns tag from this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=157761&find=unread then read some of their forum history.... is this ok with you? is this the dns attitude? Do you not recognize a troll when you see one? Just a random question. Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4508	Posted - 2014.04.28 10:58:00 - [118] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it. As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon. Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior. I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment. If you want to distance yourself there is only one way. Pretend? The best players in this game 'pretend' to be bad assess? You really just want to just get crapped on. I don't care what happens from this point on, Molon Lobe won't ever be land owners again. I do not play nice to fags who cry and do nothing but shout tears in everyones faces without doing anything in game to show they're any different. You're a scrub, will always be a scrub, and I have no reason to defend DNS against trash like you. You can take this as a declaration of war between HvLP and Molon Lube. Not that it matters since you guys will likely never try for PC again, you've learned your place. You know I'm right. You can be mad at me all you want it doesn't change that fact. I never cried about it, , I called DNS what it was. A financed coup and player created cancer. The fact that you have no legs to stand on when defending it proves my point. You can lash out all you want, it won't bring your honor back. You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 169	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:05:00 - [119] - Quote thread locking imminent o.O Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:06:00 - [120] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. We can pickle that.

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7387	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:10:00 - [121] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. Right about what? So far the only thing you've done is make extreme generalizations and blanket statements with no factual evidence to back it up. Though I do have some old friends who moved to Molon after D3LTA fell apart. Couple that with some cool dudes like Hawkin & Thor and you've got quite the respectable group of people. It would be a real shame to have a conflict start just because of one dude flapping his gums... Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 140	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:11:00 - [122] - Quote Me and my friends used to qsync FW and do 1v1s.. You guys should do this if you can't agree to disagree. Which is for what I can tell is all this thread is about.;Opinions. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 33	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:11:00 - [123] - Quote I don't hate DNS don't care if they wanna run proto or tanks there is a lot of corps that do how ever locking pc claiming you want to fix pc earning tons of isk and stopping anyone else from trying might be were all the hatred comes from why not lock down 60% and let others fight over the rest? Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 140	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:14:00 - [124] - Quote steelRatt wrote: I don't hate DNS don't care if they wanna run proto or tanks there is a lot of corps that do how ever locking pc claiming you want to fix pc earning tons of isk and stopping anyone else from trying might be were all the hatred comes from why not lock down 60% and let others fight over the rest? DNS doesn't lock districts. At least I know my corp doesn't. Actually I think they put a stop to it some how. It's no longer worth locking I think.. idk. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7387	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:14:00 - [125] - Quote steelRatt wrote: I don't hate DNS don't care if they wanna run proto or tanks there is a lot of corps that do how ever locking pc claiming you want to fix pc earning tons of isk and stopping anyone else from trying might be were all the hatred comes from why not lock down 60% and let others fight over the rest? There are only 5 districts being locked at the moment, and those don't belong to us. All 240 districts belonging to DNS are online and ready to be fought on Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 169	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:15:00 - [126] - Quote dns likes tacos Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4512	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:15:00 - [127] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. I think we'll let the like counts be the judge of bad troll or not, scrub. And I'm not defending anything from you. From everyone else, yes, but your opinion is about as valuable as the turd I left behind at your moms place last night. Oh, yea, I busted out a mom joke. Shyt got real~ lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7387	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:18:00 - [128] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: I think we'll let the like counts be the judge of bad troll or not, scrub. With all those other alts, I think your beating GJR in likes Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4515	Posted - 2014.04.28 11:19:00 - [129] - Quote Atiim wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: I think we'll let the like counts be the judge of bad troll or not, scrub. With all those other alts, I think your beating GJR in likes He's still got a ways to go actually. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2695	Posted - 2014.04.28 12:00:00 - [130] - Quote 'Hate' is a strong word, more I am 'adverse' to DNS Reasons for the same reason everyonelse 1) Blued-Up Circle *erks 2) Proflic Stompers 3) Filled with obnoxious stompers 4) Those believe they have skill because the bowl around in FOTM proto wolfpacks For example one of your alliance members had the audacity to complain about the lack of people running high end gear against him while he is stomping them as part of a stacked team. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.

Rifter7 Ancient Exiles. 424	Posted - 2014.04.28 12:03:00 - [131] - Quote people hate whoever is at the top in this community. maybe you should go play wow or cs if you want people to like you for being good... because its not here. Primus sucks.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3491	Posted - 2014.04.28 12:06:00 - [132] - Quote Law of the land Whoever is the biggest land holder is generally hated Some are hated more because of how they got the land or are just hated on account of there members
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1876	Posted - 2014.04.28 12:21:00 - [133] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? I don't mind the shitposting that certain DNS members do really. It's easily ignored. I think their CEO's should kick them, but that's between them and their corporation. Typically mouthbreathers like that tend to get themselves kicked anyway just by virtue of being themselves. I think DNS is abusing the broken game mode that is PC... but if it wasn't them it would be someone else. PC is really CCP's fault for allowing it to happen. That being said, I am sincerely hoping CCP does the right thing; track the ISK earned in PC 1.0, delete it, then release PC 2.0. DNS is simply riding a fun gravy train right now. It's pretty **** of them, but for billions and billions of essentially risk-free ISK I know why they are doing it. No, my problem with DNS is the their protostomping squads in public contracts. I want Dust to survive for as long as Eve Online has, and taking enormous dumps on new players in public contracts with six man full proto death squads is not the way. They are able to perform these mass genocides due to their basically bottomless wallets so this comes back to CCP failing at policing PC's ISK printing potential. TL;DR - I am mad at DNS for further ***** up the NPE, but I am just as mad at CCP for letting them do it. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1936	Posted - 2014.04.28 13:38:00 - [134] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gaelon Thrace wrote: One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag. Who is said 'diplomat'? Atiim wrote: One legitimate reason, is the ever-so famous Podcast staring DNSBlack. Then you have the $#!posters, such as this guy. A legitimate reason to hate DNSBlack. Frankly, I do as well. But to hate everyone in DNS just because they're in the same alliance? Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening. If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 107	Posted - 2014.04.28 14:14:00 - [135] - Quote DNS makes me Pubstomp, Whenever any DNS is on your team (opposite team), prepared to get F'd in the A. I GO BALLZ DEEP. So instead of sending me 3 messages a game about hacking, remember.....it's DNS's fault.
Cubs Secretary TeamPlayers 147	Posted - 2014.04.28 14:20:00 - [136] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: Because DNS are the only ones that tank spam. The only ones that use Proto. The only ones that roll in a squad. from the Desk of Cubs: those animals with their #TanKSPaM an damn Proto suits. then what are they thinking??? playing in squads??!?! I'm truly ashamed of each and every one of them for playing as a TEAM and running the gear their wallets and SP allows them to do. just.... shameful ------------------------------------end transmission-------------------------------------- Please take a number your call will be answered shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 107	Posted - 2014.04.28 14:26:00 - [137] - Quote Cubs Secretary wrote: Ridire Greine wrote: Because DNS are the only ones that tank spam. The only ones that use Proto. The only ones that roll in a squad. from the Desk of Cubs: those animals with their #TanKSPaM an damn Proto suits. then what are they thinking??? playing in squads??!?! I'm truly ashamed of each and every one of them for playing as a TEAM and running the gear their wallets and SP allows them to do. just.... shameful ------------------------------------end transmission-------------------------------------- Cubs....but.....but....the NPE?!? (-_-, )
General John Ripper 20686	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:50:00 - [138] - Quote TunRa wrote: General John Ripper wrote: Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? I was abused a little. I will abuse you more! Please don't. Stop liking my posts! Your killing me!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!! :D Twitter: IAmJohnRipper
Firelink Breton Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:26:00 - [139] - Quote Alright I do believe you guys kinda defeated the PC portion of this game. Sayin that is true but whenever I see your names in a game it gets me motivated to fight you as hard as I can. Refering to my good ole corp mate remington, I do think that he has a right to be angry but just so you know; he does not represent molon labe completly. Professional stubborn Minmitar heavy lvl 5
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1937	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:29:00 - [140] - Quote Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: dns likes tacos Ahh, but do they like being taco stomped? Inquiring minds want to know. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber

Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 365	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:34:00 - [141] - Quote I wouldn't say that I hate DNS...but in my personal experience, it is DNS that does the most proto-spamming and tank-spamming in pubs. This is a problem for me because it drives people away from the game. Also, by all accounts I am aware of, DNSBlack is a jackass. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4029	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:37:00 - [142] - Quote Simple answer: monopolies are no fun. No.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4452	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:41:00 - [143] - Quote Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. Right about what? So far the only thing you've done is make extreme generalizations and blanket statements with no factual evidence to back it up. Though I do have some old friends who moved to Molon after D3LTA fell apart. Couple that with some cool dudes like Hawkin & Thor and you've got quite the respectable group of people. It would be a real shame to have a conflict start just because of one dude flapping his gums... The point of an argument is to convince the other party that your view is correct. Some people can never be persuaded, even with evidence. They see their own view as correct, simply because "it is". Don't even try arguing with these people. It's only slightly more productive than arguing with a wall. Side Note: It's okay to hate what the alliance because of what it stands for. It's okay to hate a player because of what he posts. It is NOT okay to hate a player SIMPLY because he is in the alliance. Let's not judge the individual by the group. I know some terrible people in DNS, and I also know some of the coolest. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 387	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:53:00 - [144] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? Firstmostly, do you have shame in your alliance? You seem to be hiding your alliance affiliation. Its not surprising that a known like farmer is in DNS. Secondly. If you dont know why a lot of players dont like DNS, you are either dense or deluded. The alliance might as well be named "Poopsock Alliance" because that is all that makes up your ranks. If you stayed in PC, there would be less problems, but you all see fit to ruin the game for the rest of us that have lives, and It makes me angry that the lot of you ruin a game for me that I-álove so much. Plus the git gud posts, your members love to post so much, just reinforce your poopsock mentality and it angers everyone. Not to mention your useless leader. So yes. I/we hate you. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 433	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:04:00 - [145] - Quote Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are: 1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered. This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times. Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4455	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:06:00 - [146] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are: 1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered. This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times. Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. Who says I can't have both? I love playing with my Corp mates, and PC is always a blast. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 434	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:15:00 - [147] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are: 1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered. This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times. Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. Who says I can't have both? I love playing with my Corp mates, and PC is always a blast. You can have both, but is murdering puppies not much miore of an EZ mode than a "blast"? another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3530	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:16:00 - [148] - Quote I posted this in the War Room.... I was talking to Sota about this on Skype. There is hatred of those on top, then there is what is going on now. I dislike the donut because it concentrates too much of the game's talent in one place. It's just simply unhealthy for the game. The problem for DNS is that so little of the community has ever participated in PC. They just read the QQ on the forums and what they hear in squads. Over time that has lead many to believe that AE and others cheat to win. Glitches and Exploiters. This is a problem for DNS and it's a problem for generating interest in PC. I don't think the general community understands the amount of preparation and commitment it takes from individuals/corps to become beast mode in PC. For the community to think that the top players have just figured out a way to cheat and have now just resorted to farming ISK isn't good. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1937	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:17:00 - [149] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are: 1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered. This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times. Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. Who says I can't have both? I love playing with my Corp mates, and PC is always a blast. You can have both, but is murdering puppies not much miore of an EZ mode than a "blast"? I do not disagree with you, though I do have to say that I find it highly amusing to see someone "from" sver complaining about "EZ mode" It gave me a chuckle. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 434	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:21:00 - [150] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are: 1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered. This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times. Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. Who says I can't have both? I love playing with my Corp mates, and PC is always a blast. You can have both, but is murdering puppies not much miore of an EZ mode than a "blast"? I do not disagree with you, though I do have to say that I find it highly amusing to see someone "from" sver complaining about "EZ mode" It gave me a chuckle. Could you explain that to me please? Ever since I'm in Stb we've fought honest, no tank or nade spam or cheap trocks like otjer might use. Havent played MAG just in case you are referring to that, since it wasnt abailable on the german psn, or atleast not since I own a ps3 another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1937	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:24:00 - [151] - Quote @Your Absolut End Yes, brought back memories of the MAG forums and Smoke Grenades. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 122	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:55:00 - [152] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. And yet you run with those that keep everyone down. It reminds me of Donald Sterling....I wanna help all these unfortunate individuals, but dear god don't let me be associated with them. No matter what you say you wanna do, if you are with them, then you will be seen as them. Leave DNS with the isk you have amassed, open the rolls to others and use that isk to keep them going instead of folding. Even the **** party had community outreach programs, doesn't mean they didn't do their best to annihilate an entire group of people from the face of the planet. You will never be taken seriously by me, or many others, as a group out to help others unless you leave DNS. Simple as that.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1938	Posted - 2014.04.28 17:57:00 - [153] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. And yet you run with those that keep everyone down. It reminds me of Donald Sterling....I wanna help all these unfortunate individuals, but dear god don't let me be associated with them. No matter what you say you wanna do, if you are with them, then you will be seen as them. Leave DNS with the isk you have amassed, open the rolls to others and use that isk to keep them going instead of folding. Even the **** party had community outreach programs, doesn't mean they didn't do their best to annihilate an entire group of people from the face of the planet. You will never be taken seriously by me, or many others, as a group out to help others unless you leave DNS. Simple as that. EDIT:lol....even N A Z I is censored. Even then, how can we ever be truly sure that they aren't just meta-ing us all and laughing behind our backs because they're still working together, though no longer publicly? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 434	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:05:00 - [154] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. When I got an invite to said corp by one of your DNS-Allies he told me you're building am elite corp only open to join with invitation. Whats the deal, have the plans changed?Still wondering why he sits in ERA since he told me he'd join after 2 weeks which is overdue 2 weeks by now ;) another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 122	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:06:00 - [155] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. "Trying to do good." "I may want to help" You can't even commit to pretending to be good. I have no resentment. I am just making sure you DNS blues don't forget that you're the villains. You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. You actually divided the community when you decided that there would be 2 groups in Dust, those who hold districts, and those not in DNS. Don't try to spin this as the fault of the people pointing this out. You are, and will remain a villain, until you leave DNS voluntarily. If it fails on its own, I will treat every corp who went from DNS after the fact as if they are still together unless they leave first on their own accord. This isn't a threat, as I have no way to back it up, just stating ho myself and others feel. And I will actively do what I can to help bring this about.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7407	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:06:00 - [156] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: When I got an invite to said corp by one of your DNS-Allies he told me you're building am elite corp only open to join with invitation. Whats the deal, have the plans changed?Still wondering why he sits in ERA since he told me he'd join after 2 weeks which is overdue 2 weeks by now ;) Got names & pics? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 122	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:08:00 - [157] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. Being divided sucks. Half the community thinks DNS is opportunistic cancer scum. The other half thinks DNS is protostomping arrogant douches. I don't see why we all can't just agree that DNS is opportunistic cancerous protostomping arrogant douche scum. Now we can all agree. "Tunnel vision" Only when I'm looking at you guys down in that hole you dug. +1 for this I love Bill Hicks as well. Great reply.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 434	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:15:00 - [158] - Quote Atiim wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: When I got an invite to said corp by one of your DNS-Allies he told me you're building am elite corp only open to join with invitation. Whats the deal, have the plans changed?Still wondering why he sits in ERA since he told me he'd join after 2 weeks which is overdue 2 weeks by now ;) Got names & pics? Yes and yes, Not gonna post 'em because I'm loyal even to ex-brothers, got an offer to make? Probably I'm buyable ;) another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 122	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:31:00 - [159] - Quote Atiim wrote: steelRatt wrote: I don't hate DNS don't care if they wanna run proto or tanks there is a lot of corps that do how ever locking pc claiming you want to fix pc earning tons of isk and stopping anyone else from trying might be were all the hatred comes from why not lock down 60% and let others fight over the rest? There are only 5 districts being locked at the moment, and those don't belong to us. All 240 districts belonging to DNS are online and ready to be fought on after everyone who would ever play in a PC for DNS has several hundred million to billions of isk stockpiled, I'm amazed you would even realize one way or the other. The hate isn't because of what is happening right now, it is for everything that has, as well as is currently going on. Your alliance did lock everything you could, until it was made unprofitable. Just because you aren't voluntarily costing yourselves isk, doesn't mean you are doing something positive for the community. Please quit trying to make it sound like you have always had your districts open to be attacked since even before DNS "formed", when we all know that most all were permalocked while you amassed the fortunes your corp now possess.
Moorian Flav 226	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:34:00 - [160] - Quote Another "why the hate for DNS" thread? Were there not enough of these on the War Room? I swear DNS players like talking about themselves which is yet just another reason to hate DNS. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".

Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7411	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:37:00 - [161] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: Another "why the hate for DNS" thread? Were there not enough of these on the War Room? I swear DNS players like talking about themselves which is yet just another reason to hate DNS. I haven't noticed a thread like this in the War Room. Though how many people who hate DNS post in the War Room? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 122	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:39:00 - [162] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. Right about what? So far the only thing you've done is make extreme generalizations and blanket statements with no factual evidence to back it up. Though I do have some old friends who moved to Molon after D3LTA fell apart. Couple that with some cool dudes like Hawkin & Thor and you've got quite the respectable group of people. It would be a real shame to have a conflict start just because of one dude flapping his gums... The point of an argument is to convince the other party that your view is correct. Some people can never be persuaded, even with evidence. They see their own view as correct, simply because "it is". Don't even try arguing with these people. It's only slightly more productive than arguing with a wall. Side Note: It's okay to hate what the alliance because of what it stands for. It's okay to hate a player because of what he posts. It is NOT okay to hate a player SIMPLY because he is in the alliance. Let's not judge the individual by the group. I know some terrible people in DNS, and I also know some of the coolest. Then the cool ones should form their own corp with the bilions they have hoarded, they will then forever be removed from getting grouped with the "bad" DNS members. Until that happens, you are all a bunch of POS's. P.S.-Yes, I have played with several of your members. Most are actually decent human beings, much to my surprise. but I also feel that they are likely just doing that because they know the hate is strong whenever they do anything "DNS-like" outside of their alliance. I'm probably wrong, but that is what your alliance has done, caused many of us to distrust what would likely be solid squad/teammates because we hate helping anyone from that alliance out at all.
Arirana Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 512	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:42:00 - [163] - Quote Emperor1349 wrote: I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them. Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro? complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence I have an ego?! O.O The scales have fallen from my eyes.
Moorian Flav 226	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:47:00 - [164] - Quote Atiim wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: Another "why the hate for DNS" thread? Were there not enough of these on the War Room? I swear DNS players like talking about themselves which is yet just another reason to hate DNS. I haven't noticed a thread like this in the War Room. Though how many people who hate DNS post in the War Room? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156970 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=157255&p=1 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156812&p=1 (not started by DNS but heavily replied to by DNS) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=156311&p=1 Don't feel like searching for any more (although I'm sure there are a few I missed). I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 753	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:55:00 - [165] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it? Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. Right about what? So far the only thing you've done is make extreme generalizations and blanket statements with no factual evidence to back it up. Though I do have some old friends who moved to Molon after D3LTA fell apart. Couple that with some cool dudes like Hawkin & Thor and you've got quite the respectable group of people. It would be a real shame to have a conflict start just because of one dude flapping his gums... The point of an argument is to convince the other party that your view is correct. Some people can never be persuaded, even with evidence. They see their own view as correct, simply because "it is". Don't even try arguing with these people. It's only slightly more productive than arguing with a wall. Side Note: It's okay to hate what the alliance because of what it stands for. It's okay to hate a player because of what he posts. It is NOT okay to hate a player SIMPLY because he is in the alliance. Let's not judge the individual by the group. I know some terrible people in DNS, and I also know some of the coolest. I have no hate for anyone in this game. You can't justify the doughnut. That's why arguing on its behalf doesn't work. Taking what I say personally when I am speaking of actions taken by your alliance only serves to iterate your personal disgust for those actions. It's apparent that many within DNS do not want to be viewed as villains. My berating attitude towards DNS is only about the scoundrel tactics used to form and enforce it. These are blanket statements, but the proof is in the current state of PC. We can wait on news from fanfest or those members that do not want to travel into the next chapter of Dust as villainous scum can turn it around before that hand is played for them. It won't take much and it'll be a hell of a ride. SoTa can hate me for now. He knows it is irrelevant to what is needed for curing this pestilence. We can pickle that.
Duke Noobiam Algintal Core Gallente Federation 77	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:00:00 - [166] - Quote Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. We see DNS members (here on the forums) saying that they wish someone would step up and give them a challenge. If this was really what they wanted, they would break up the alliance and fight each other as they are the only ones who have the funds and the players to challenge themselves. Pretty simple. How do you kill that which has no life?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12850	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:05:00 - [167] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4455	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:07:00 - [168] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are: 1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered. This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times. Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. Who says I can't have both? I love playing with my Corp mates, and PC is always a blast. You can have both, but is murdering puppies not much miore of an EZ mode than a "blast"? I've run Nova Knives and Min scout since 1.1. No matter who I face, it's almost always a challenge, and always a blast. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
IR Scifi Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy 150	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:11:00 - [169] - Quote I don't hate (not even a hate really) all of DNS (HvLP seems to be a pretty good group of people) but whenever I see TeamPlayers, the Nyan's or AE I tend to only see one thing: proto'd out FotM wolfpack's. That gets real old real fast unless you are ALSO running FotM wolfpacks. I know there's the old eve adage of "IF you find yourself in a fair fight you've done something wrong" but damn it'd be nice to at least feel like I can compete without committing 2mil that I don't have to fight I'm probably going to lose anyway.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1938	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:15:00 - [170] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. At least you're not denying that DNS does in fact pubstomp. Though you're not the only ones so that makes it ok right? Since neonazis perpatrate hate crimes does that mean we all should too? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber

Moorian Flav 229	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:16:00 - [171] - Quote Quote: Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. These vague justifications by DNS players are amusing. Everyone knows DNS players are not the only ones that protostomp; just like everyone knows that DNS players are the only ones freely printing ISK from their huge amount of districts so they have the ability to protostomp without the worry of paying for their proto fits. What I truly find funny about DNS is DNS does not even share the wealth internally where 3 corps hold 60+ districts where the others are left with whatever scraps are allowed to them. I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4456	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:18:00 - [172] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. At least you're not denying that DNS does in fact pubstomp. Though you're not the only ones so that makes it ok right? Since neonazis perpatrate hate crimes does that mean we all should too? Since multiple groups pub stomp, shouldn't we hate them all equally? I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1938	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:19:00 - [173] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. At least you're not denying that DNS does in fact pubstomp. Though you're not the only ones so that makes it ok right? Since neonazis perpatrate hate crimes does that mean we all should too? Since multiple groups pub stomp, shouldn't we hate them all equally? I do. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 112	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:23:00 - [174] - Quote The DNS alliance does not do anything to foster NPE growth. - They don't help or train new berries (It's not training when you're stomping them with proto squads) - Full with egos and anything opposed to them is given the 'git gud' response. - They feed on tears - Stomp out anyone looking to do something outside of pubs making the game feel dull for mid tiered competition Is enough for 50+% of Dust people to hate them.
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 19	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:26:00 - [175] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Cogadh Draco wrote: I don't hate DNS or anyone having to do with it, a lot of us shouldn't. However, a lot of people don't like the fact that DNS(mainly Niyan San/Chan) basically removed 1/3 of the multiplayer aspect of DUST514. Now I do agree with a lot of people that CCP needs to expand how many planets one can fight over in PC, but DNS taking it so far as to remove a lot of the competition from the current PC to attempt to motivate CCP to add more planets? This is how it looks like, and quite a few people on voice chat say the same thing in game, but was it really THAT necessary? You know i was against the 100% ** but what we realized after we started it is that there are very few top corps in dust and that they CAN take what they want. This isn't a product of how good the dns corps are. Its a true reflection of how bad the rest of the corps are. Only teams doing anything against dns are WTF and OH which are both vet players with lots of PC exp and the only reason they are in it is because they are self locking their districts to force clone pack attacks. If you add more districts it wont make the game better because you will get just a herd of average corps that try to farm isk instead of fight. pc 1.0 needs to be dumped 100% owning ** and passive isk need to be gone from dust forever. Hmm, true true, but then again I never really cared for PC. I just went in there, did as I told and got my payout. Sure every corp has it's weaknesses/strengths and each held to their own for a while(while snoozing on isk distrcts). However, DNS rebellion(Niyan San/Chan mostly) didn't really kick off until 1.8(or whatever patch for cloak, racial heavies, new sidearms) was introed. Or did this whole GWWI(Galactic World War 1) start long before? In any event DNS got the stacked deck(corps) in this gamble and won with a straight flush. I kinda like it being on the sidelines watching the aftermath of their war going bad lol.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2268	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:28:00 - [176] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. Of course not, but DNS is the most proud of it. To throw in my two cents: I don't hate DNS for monopolizing PC. I couldn't care less who has the most space-marbles- ISK in Dust is worthless. I'm a dedicatedly casual Dust player, the only thing ISK is good for is funding my drunken Python binges. I have no interest in PC or the "competitive" side of Dust- if I want to play a competitive FPS, it'll be Counter Strike, TF2, or other PC games with proper mouse input, well-designed maps and well-balanced mechanics. What I do hate is people like Knight Solaire, who come to the forums looking for attention and attempting to rub their poop-sock in the faces of anyone without the time or inclination to play Dust at a "competitive" level. Selecting Dust as the game to exert your competitive instinct on simply tells me that you couldn't hack it in better-balanced FPSes with a much larger, more dedicated competitive community- Dust is the Special Olympics of hardcore FPS games. The level of gloating that goes on is simply unjustified, and annoying because of it. I also hate anyone who queue-syncs in pubs (not FW) to try to imbalance the matchmaker as much as possible, because running with one skilled six-person squad isn't enough to guarantee you the win. DNS is certainly not the only group to do this, but again, you're the most visible and the most proud of your actions. Nerdier than thou
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1440	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:28:00 - [177] - Quote I don't care about DNS in my opinion like every other problem in this game the ISK farming blue donut that is DNS is CCPs fault. CCP has made a game that favors the cowards tactic in every single aspect in the game and it always had (the exception being the few months when vehicles were weak). Cloaks, red line snipers, red line rail tanks, hardeners, Sentinels in tanks, roof top warriors, etc... All the results of game design flaws. PC is just another game design flaw. Anything that one could put into a game that an exploit loving little punk *** would want to use CCP puts in and then rewards them for doing it with high KDR and ISK. We've all been in matches with chumps with no gun game who lose in a match because they are circling the exterior of a map that has 3 points on the inside and 2 outside in their tanks because "hey so long as you go 5 - 0 and made some profit and didn't hurt your KDR that's cool. those dumbasses who were actually trying to take objectives and win the match because the game doesn't reward winning. So I've got no hate for DNS they are just a small example of a generally **** little twirps who make up a gaming community that is enabled by incompetent developers. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4460	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:29:00 - [178] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. Of course not, but DNS is the most proud of it. To throw in my two cents: I don't hate DNS for monopolizing PC. I couldn't care less who has the most space-marbles- ISK in Dust is worthless. I'm a dedicatedly casual Dust player, the only thing ISK is good for is funding my drunken Python binges. I have no interest in PC or the "competitive" side of Dust- if I want to play a competitive FPS, it'll be Counter Strike, TF2, or other PC games with proper mouse input, well-designed maps and well-balanced mechanics. What I do hate is people like Knight Solaire, who come to the forums looking for attention and attempting to rub their poop-sock in the faces of anyone without the time or inclination to play Dust at a "competitive" level. Selecting Dust as the game to exert your competitive instinct on simply tells me that you couldn't hack it in better-balanced FPSes with a much larger, more dedicated competitive community- Dust is the Special Olympics of hardcore FPS games. The level of gloating that goes on is simply unjustified, and annoying because of it. I also hate anyone who queue-syncs in pubs (not FW) to try to imbalance the matchmaker as much as possible, because running with one skilled six-person squad isn't enough to guarantee you the win. DNS is certainly not the only group to do this, but again, you're the most visible and the most proud of your actions. I can confirm that Knight does what he does to be a troll. He isn't looking for attention, he just loves to mess with people I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2268	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:31:00 - [179] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. Of course not, but DNS is the most proud of it. To throw in my two cents: I don't hate DNS for monopolizing PC. I couldn't care less who has the most space-marbles- ISK in Dust is worthless. I'm a dedicatedly casual Dust player, the only thing ISK is good for is funding my drunken Python binges. I have no interest in PC or the "competitive" side of Dust- if I want to play a competitive FPS, it'll be Counter Strike, TF2, or other PC games with proper mouse input, well-designed maps and well-balanced mechanics. What I do hate is people like Knight Solaire, who come to the forums looking for attention and attempting to rub their poop-sock in the faces of anyone without the time or inclination to play Dust at a "competitive" level. Selecting Dust as the game to exert your competitive instinct on simply tells me that you couldn't hack it in better-balanced FPSes with a much larger, more dedicated competitive community- Dust is the Special Olympics of hardcore FPS games. The level of gloating that goes on is simply unjustified, and annoying because of it. I also hate anyone who queue-syncs in pubs (not FW) to try to imbalance the matchmaker as much as possible, because running with one skilled six-person squad isn't enough to guarantee you the win. DNS is certainly not the only group to do this, but again, you're the most visible and the most proud of your actions. I can confirm that Knight does what he does to be a troll. He isn't looking for attention, he just loves to mess with people shrug Stupid is as stupid does. Being troll and messing with people is, by definition, attention-seeking. Nerdier than thou
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3540	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:34:00 - [180] - Quote Arirana wrote: Emperor1349 wrote: I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them. Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro? complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence Small difference in the two, but we are guilty of that. At the time it was more about holding the territory and a flow of ISK until mechanics were changed and participation from the community increased. But participation only decreased. Level 3 Forum Warrior

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3542	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:35:00 - [181] - Quote Atiim wrote: Moorian Flav wrote: Another "why the hate for DNS" thread? Were there not enough of these on the War Room? I swear DNS players like talking about themselves which is yet just another reason to hate DNS. I haven't noticed a thread like this in the War Room. Though how many people who hate DNS post in the War Room? There's only like 7 people that post in the war room that aren't in DNS Level 3 Forum Warrior
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 19	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:39:00 - [182] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Arirana wrote: Emperor1349 wrote: I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them. Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro? complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence Small difference in the two, but we are guilty of that. At the time it was more about holding the territory and a flow of ISK until mechanics were changed and participation from the community increased. But participation only decreased. Well now that it's prettymuch pub matches left(if you don't wanna rick your isk in PCs), it's really boring... Not mentioning the REPETITION OF THE SAME F%#&ING MAPS OVER AND OVER!!!
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4460	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:46:00 - [183] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Arirana wrote: Emperor1349 wrote: I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them. Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro? complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence Small difference in the two, but we are guilty of that. At the time it was more about holding the territory and a flow of ISK until mechanics were changed and participation from the community increased. But participation only decreased. Well now that it's prettymuch pub matches left(if you don't wanna rick your isk in PCs), it's really boring... Not mentioning the REPETITION OF THE SAME F%#&ING MAPS OVER AND OVER!!! People in DNS only care about ISK! IF they cared about good fights, they would all turn on each other and fight! To heck with the ISK losses! I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3543	Posted - 2014.04.28 19:49:00 - [184] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Arirana wrote: Emperor1349 wrote: I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them. Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro? complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence Small difference in the two, but we are guilty of that. At the time it was more about holding the territory and a flow of ISK until mechanics were changed and participation from the community increased. But participation only decreased. Well now that it's prettymuch pub matches left(if you don't wanna rick your isk in PCs), it's really boring... Not mentioning the REPETITION OF THE SAME F%#&ING MAPS OVER AND OVER!!! The mechanics of PC are such that the elite players would have to show restraint in order for the community to catch up. The people that have dominated PC from the beginning were people that were long time beta players that had the luxury of corporation battles for months before PC ever hit. I've said it a million times, but releasing PC without another form of team deploy was an epic mistake. With the repetitions that the elite players have had since PC was released it's likely to take a year or more for any real competition to show itself from players that don't already have PC experience EVEN if they were to release another form of team deploy during tonight's downtime. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Duke Noobiam Algintal Core Gallente Federation 77	Posted - 2014.04.28 20:02:00 - [185] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub. Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. They are the only group that does this with unlimited ISK at their disposal, and fair or not, they are the current face of all the PUBSTOMPERS. How do you kill that which has no life?
Patrick57 7175	Posted - 2014.04.28 20:20:00 - [186] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening. If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be. I was never on board for my corp to join DNS in the first place, but I'm here simply because I enjoy the people in my corp (when I play, that is). Although I hate the alliance (aside from RND - they're cool) and what they're doing, there's not many other places I would want to be. So, are you saying that I should be guilty simply because I like to play the game with my friends? Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1379	Posted - 2014.04.28 20:45:00 - [187] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening. If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be. I was never on board for my corp to join DNS in the first place, but I'm here simply because I enjoy the people in my corp (when I play, that is). Although I hate the alliance (aside from RND - they're cool) and what they're doing, there's not many other places I would want to be. So, are you saying that I should be guilty simply because I like to play the game with my friends? I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.04.28 20:52:00 - [188] - Quote The reason is simple: The arrogant and inflated egos most of the members in DNS has. Also the fact that you guys feed us bull **** propaganda, "we are doing this for the community" like we are a bunch of ignorant kindergardeners. (well most of atleast) We know you guys care more about the size of your wallet than the community. The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12857	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:03:00 - [189] - Quote MythTanker wrote: The reason is simple: The arrogant and inflated egos most of the members in DNS has. Also the fact that you guys feed us bull **** propaganda, "we are doing this for the community" like we are a bunch of ignorant kindergardeners. (well most of atleast) We know you guys care more about the size of your wallet than the community. Source on the 'we are doing this for the community' quote? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
M1A1 Blaster Master Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:04:00 - [190] - Quote I call in tanks in every pub match I am in because that is what I do. It is unfortunate that I only get good fights when others from DNS are on the other side though.

MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:08:00 - [191] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: The reason is simple: The arrogant and inflated egos most of the members in DNS has. Also the fact that you guys feed us bull **** propaganda, "we are doing this for the community" like we are a bunch of ignorant kindergardeners. (well most of atleast) We know you guys care more about the size of your wallet than the community. Source on the 'we are doing this for the community' quote? Not a direct quote, but that is what kain spero and many others have said. The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12857	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:10:00 - [192] - Quote MythTanker wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: The reason is simple: The arrogant and inflated egos most of the members in DNS has. Also the fact that you guys feed us bull **** propaganda, "we are doing this for the community" like we are a bunch of ignorant kindergardeners. (well most of atleast) We know you guys care more about the size of your wallet than the community. Source on the 'we are doing this for the community' quote? Not a direct quote, but that is what kain spero and many others have said. Where? Have you just heard that they've said that or have you actually seen them saying that? If you've actually seen it, could you provide a link or a guess as to where it was? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 123	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:13:00 - [193] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening. If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be. I was never on board for my corp to join DNS in the first place, but I'm here simply because I enjoy the people in my corp (when I play, that is). Although I hate the alliance (aside from RND - they're cool) and what they're doing, there's not many other places I would want to be. So, are you saying that I should be guilty simply because I like to play the game with my friends? Yes. That is EXACTLY what we are saying. You can always leave the alliance if you feel as if you are being treated unfairly (we all feel that way in this game eventually). Even leaving their alliance you can still play with them by forming squads/talking from an independent chat channel (bet you use one already anyway) and joining up from there. Nothing keeping you from doing that except your love of printing isk, so please just admit it so we can move onto something else. Otherwise, you are one of them and will get the same hate as the rest of them.
MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:14:00 - [194] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: The reason is simple: The arrogant and inflated egos most of the members in DNS has. Also the fact that you guys feed us bull **** propaganda, "we are doing this for the community" like we are a bunch of ignorant kindergardeners. (well most of atleast) We know you guys care more about the size of your wallet than the community. Source on the 'we are doing this for the community' quote? Not a direct quote, but that is what kain spero and many others have said. Where? Have you just heard that they've said that or have you actually seen them saying that? If you've actually seen it, could you provide a link or a guess as to where it was? face palm You have 12k likes, how have you not read it before? The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 123	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:16:00 - [195] - Quote M1A1 Blaster Master wrote: I call in tanks in every pub match I am in because that is what I do. It is unfortunate that I only get good fights when others from DNS are on the other side though. Then why don't you fight them over control of each others districts? You would then be GUARANTEED of this match you so desperately desire.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7420	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:16:00 - [196] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: Yes. That is EXACTLY what we are saying. You can always leave the alliance if you feel as if you are being treated unfairly (we all feel that way in this game eventually). Even leaving their alliance you can still play with them by forming squads/talking from an independent chat channel (bet you use one already anyway) and joining up from there. Nothing keeping you from doing that except your love of printing isk, so please just admit it so we can move onto something else. Otherwise, you are one of them and will get the same hate as the rest of them. So basically damage the ties between his closest friends simply because a forum community had their feeling hurt? I'm not sure if I should go into details as to why that's not a good idea. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12857	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:16:00 - [197] - Quote MythTanker wrote: face palm You have 12k likes, how have you not read it before? Because I don't read everything ever on the forums? Does it not exist? If you have no idea where to find it, you can just say that and back out gracefully, you don't need to start bashing on people. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7420	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:18:00 - [198] - Quote M1A1 Blaster Master wrote: I call in tanks in every pub match I am in because that is what I do. It is unfortunate that I only get good fights when others from DNS are on the other side though. I'd be happy to have a TvT fight against you :^) Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 123	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:19:00 - [199] - Quote Atiim wrote: emtbraincase wrote: Yes. That is EXACTLY what we are saying. You can always leave the alliance if you feel as if you are being treated unfairly (we all feel that way in this game eventually). Even leaving their alliance you can still play with them by forming squads/talking from an independent chat channel (bet you use one already anyway) and joining up from there. Nothing keeping you from doing that except your love of printing isk, so please just admit it so we can move onto something else. Otherwise, you are one of them and will get the same hate as the rest of them. So basically damage the ties between his closest friends simply because a forum community had their feeling hurt? I'm not sure if I should go into details as to why that's not a good idea. I left my last corp because I had disagreements over the corp and still play with the friends I went into the corp with daily. Not too hard if they are truly friends, and not just people you make the most with.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1939	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:20:00 - [200] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening. If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be. I was never on board for my corp to join DNS in the first place, but I'm here simply because I enjoy the people in my corp (when I play, that is). Although I hate the alliance (aside from RND - they're cool) and what they're doing, there's not many other places I would want to be. So, are you saying that I should be guilty simply because I like to play the game with my friends? No, I am saying that many will find you to be guilty by association. It is a rather common fallacy. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber

MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:25:00 - [201] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: face palm You have 12k likes, how have you not read it before? Because I don't read everything ever on the forums? Does it not exist? If you have no idea where to find it, you can just say that and back out gracefully, you don't need to start bashing on people. I didnt bash anyone i apologise if you took it that way, im was getting prepared for denial, its lose-lose no matter what i say. If i have no link or down-to-the-grain specific details than there is a clear way to deny it. I thought with your number of like you would have seen one of the hundreds of posts like that. The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12861	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:30:00 - [202] - Quote MythTanker wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: face palm You have 12k likes, how have you not read it before? Because I don't read everything ever on the forums? Does it not exist? If you have no idea where to find it, you can just say that and back out gracefully, you don't need to start bashing on people. I didnt bash anyone i apologise if you took it that way, im was getting prepared for denial, its lose-lose no matter what i say. If i have no link or down-to-the-grain specific details than there is a clear way to deny it. I thought with your number of like you would have seen one of the hundreds of posts like that. I haven't. The only posts I have seen from Kane and people actually relevant to DNS as a whole have been constructive posts on how to improve PC so this situation doesn't happen - like increasing the size of clone packs so it's more feasible for people to attack districts from outside of PC, and removing passive ISK in favour of other designs that aren't so farmable. Are you confusing this with those posts? Because most of those posts were dismissed purely because they came from DNS, not because they were genuinely shallow attempts to benefit the donut and nobody else. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:33:00 - [203] - Quote Its called were more organized lolz we plan before are boots hit the ground what about you? Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 113	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:34:00 - [204] - Quote No Arkena, I am one the intelligent QQers, I have read posts where leading members have said something close to this. *We are forcing CCP's hand into fixing PC" The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 124	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:36:00 - [205] - Quote waters104 wrote: Its called were more organized lolz we plan before are boots hit the ground what about you? How about you all fight each other so you can get that "oh so satisfying" challenge you all speak so highly of wanting. Until that happens.........
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12861	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:38:00 - [206] - Quote MythTanker wrote: No Arkena, I am one the intelligent QQers, I have read posts where leading members have said something close to this. We are forcing CCP's hand into fixing PC" Ah. I've seen that from a handful of trash posters. But not from someone actually significant in DNS. waters104 wrote:* Its called were more organized lolz we plan before are boots hit the ground what about you? Presumably it's this kind of poster that produces the majority of the inflammatory material. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:38:00 - [207] - Quote Lolz we too busy proving ccp that they need to fix pc :D Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 119	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:40:00 - [208] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: MythTanker wrote: No Arkena, I am one the intelligent QQers, I have read posts where leading members have said something close to this. We are forcing CCP's hand into fixing PC" Ah. I've seen that from a handful of trash posters. But not from someone actually significant in DNS. waters104 wrote:* Its called were more organized lolz we plan before are boots hit the ground what about you? Presumably it's this kind of poster that produces the majority of the inflammatory material. YES it all ties into that, DNS needs a quality purge if it hopes to ever gain any respect again The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Patrick57 7175	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:44:00 - [209] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: Yes. That is EXACTLY what we are saying. You can always leave the alliance if you feel as if you are being treated unfairly (we all feel that way in this game eventually). Even leaving their alliance you can still play with them by forming squads/talking from an independent chat channel (bet you use one already anyway) and joining up from there. Nothing keeping you from doing that except your love of printing isk, so please just admit it so we can move onto something else. Otherwise, you are one of them and will get the same hate as the rest of them. lol I'm guilty of playing the game with friends! Arrest me! Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12861	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:44:00 - [210] - Quote waters104 wrote: Lolz we too busy proving ccp that they need to fix pc :D I'm hoping that this particular specimen is trolling and not being serious. There may be quite a few like this guy in DNS. But that doesn't mean every single person in DNS believes this. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums

waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:46:00 - [211] - Quote waters104 wrote: Its called were more organized lolz we plan before are boots hit the ground what about you? Presumably it's this kind of poster that produces the majority of the inflammatory material.[/quote] What is that suppose to mean * scratches head* Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 362	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:46:00 - [212] - Quote 11 pages of infantile crap debate wow now time to lock the thread in greatness. They knew each other for years, but even from the start, it was undeniable. Kujo had never seen a man a beautiful as Kane. His unrelenting vigor on the battlefield and in the meeting room secured him a firm place in KujoGÇÖs heart. Kane longed for his company, and fondled him whenever and wherever he could. It was the beginning of a PC match, and Molon Labe had no-showed once again. Kane and Kujo sat side by side, alone, gazing at the stars together. It was at this moment that their eyes finally locked together. They were lost in the unfathomable beauty of each other's eyes. Almost immediately their lips touched, and their tongues violently thrashed against each other's succulent faces. They looked and saw the abandoned Chinese restaurant, standard issue for all General Tso districts. The food was left on the tables as their forces evacuated earlier. They ran inside and began to play with their improvised toys. Kujo moaned in ecstasy as Kane caressed his chest with greasy noodles. The grease rubbed off on both of them, making their succulent bodies glisten in the light. Their lips were locked furiously while Kujo returned the favor, rubbing KaneGÇÖs throbbing manhood. As they took off their armor and clothing, their erect peacemakers stroked against one another, causing Kane and Kujo to moan in delight. Once nude, Kane gave Kujo a loving, but firm spank on his soft ass. Kujo, still covered in noodles, lunged at Kane, tackling him to the floor. Their chests rubbed together as their moist tongues played a fierce territorial war in each otherGÇÖs mouths. Kane gripped Kujo by his hair, making it clear that he would be the dominant party, and Kujo would be his loving, submissive slave. Kane grabbed a pan and proceeded to whack KujoGÇÖs ass furiously while Kujo sat there bent over. Kujo moaned with pure glee as the pan made contact with his ass time and time again, with increasing force upon each strike. Kane realized that his new slave needed greater punishment. he grabbed his favorite dragon dildo, and superglued it onto the back of the pan. Upon the swinging of the pan, the dragon dildo buried itself deep into KujoGÇÖs bleeding rectum. Kujo lost all control of his sphincter immediately, as Kane pushed and pulled the toy, causing unimaginable anal pleasure, as Kujo had no choice but to except this erect dragon dildo deep into his rectum. Kane decided that this was enough, and removed the pan after pulling for a few seconds. KujoGÇÖs ass spewed forth a stream of blood, fecal matter, and a third unknown fluid. Kane grabbed his hair as he inserted his throbbing, 8 inch **, into KujoGÇÖs anal cavity. Kujo recoiled and grabbed the carpet in rectal satisfaction. He handed Kane a giant rib he found off the floor, it was perfect. Kane shoved the rib into his rectum as he violently pleasured Kujo. They both let forth screams of pleasure as they showed their ungodly love for each other. After a few rounds of ***, they went to the toy store. Like all Molon Labe districts, the toy store was composed almost entirely of sex toys. They took the nearest dildos and put them on the pelvises of service drones. The drones were set to pleasure mode, and began their mission. They simultaneously pounded the assholes of Kujo and his master, as they held hands and screamed in joy. Their sweat and soy sauce were the only forms of lube, which they would use as they took turns shoving their throbbing manhoods against each other. Suddenly, it was apparent that more needed to be done, they grabbed the biggest toy they could find, a 48 inch, double sided dragon dildo, and plunged it straight into their rectums. As they moved closer together, their anal cavities bled in pure pleasure as they ruptured their lower body organs with the might of their massive toy. Now hemorrhaging internally, the pair met lips once again, only this time, that too was not enough. Only the blood and fecal matter gushing from their rectums could curb their lustful appetite. Now vomiting and defecating a mixture of * and blood, the pair embraced each other, as they took turns sucking on the otherGÇÖs rock hard package. Kujo cried tears of joy, not believing the orgasmic joy he received from his dominatrix daddy, Kane. As they lay there in the bodily fluids they had spread all across the district, they knew the final act they had to perform. Kane took his nova knife and plunged it into KujoGÇÖs abdomen. He used it like a boxcutter, opening up Kujo from appendix to ribcage. He then filled his chest cavity with noodles, as he ejaculated into one of KujoGÇÖs exposed veins. Kujo vomited with joy and their lips met one final time. Bleeding out from lethal amounts of love making, Kujo gave one final look into KaneGÇÖs eyes. Near-death, he filled his mouth with KaneGÇÖs **, biting upon orgasm to show his affection. Kane slit his own throat, and the two bled out clutching each other in their arms. Upon respawning at the nearest CRU, Kujo gently grabbed KaneGÇÖs hand and whispered in his ear: GÇ£Lets merge our alliances.GÇ¥
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 124	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:46:00 - [213] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: emtbraincase wrote: Yes. That is EXACTLY what we are saying. You can always leave the alliance if you feel as if you are being treated unfairly (we all feel that way in this game eventually). Even leaving their alliance you can still play with them by forming squads/talking from an independent chat channel (bet you use one already anyway) and joining up from there. Nothing keeping you from doing that except your love of printing isk, so please just admit it so we can move onto something else. Otherwise, you are one of them and will get the same hate as the rest of them. lol I'm guilty of playing the game with friends! Arrest me! Nope, you said you had to leave to not be grouped into them and I agreed. You would have to leave them to not be grouped in with them. If you don't mind being hated by the rest of the community (No reason you should) then you would have to leave the alliance to not be counted among them. As I stated after that quote, I do it daily myself.
Patrick57 7175	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:48:00 - [214] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: Nope, you said you had to leave to not be grouped into them and I agreed. You would have to leave them to not be grouped in with them. If you don't mind being hated by the rest of the community (No reason you should) then you would have to leave the alliance to not be counted among them. As I stated after that quote, I do it daily myself. Why would I mind being hated by people? :D Also, I have more than enough ISK. The ISK I get from my corp is just a side bonus. Although flying my ADS is very expensive. >:3 Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:51:00 - [215] - Quote I not trying to troll lolz we have a goal and we determine to follow it lolz simple as that ^^ Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12861	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:51:00 - [216] - Quote waters104 wrote: What is that suppose to mean * scratches head* That's basically my exasperation at a random DNS member coming in and undermining the idea that we're not all arrogant douchebags. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 124	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:51:00 - [217] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: emtbraincase wrote: Nope, you said you had to leave to not be grouped into them and I agreed. You would have to leave them to not be grouped in with them. If you don't mind being hated by the rest of the community (No reason you should) then you would have to leave the alliance to not be counted among them. As I stated after that quote, I do it daily myself. Why would I mind being hated by people? :D Also, I have more than enough ISK. The ISK I get from my corp is just a side bonus. Although flying my ADS is very expensive. >:3 So you are arguing with me that everything I said was correct. Then brag about how much you had by exploiting a game mechanic. THIS is why we hate DNS.
MythTanker The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 120	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:53:00 - [218] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: waters104 wrote: Lolz we too busy proving ccp that they need to fix pc :D I'm hoping that this particular specimen is trolling and not being serious. There may be quite a few like this guy in DNS. But that doesn't mean every single person in DNS believes this. I never said that everyone was (if i did im sorry) in DNS was that way, you have been one of the more respectable ones, but remember those who do makes it very difficult to respect DNS. CEOs need to put some discpline in their members. The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:55:00 - [219] - Quote You guys and including myself are not douches we have a goal and we are determine too succed why nobody else see that have you ever had a goal before lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12861	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:58:00 - [220] - Quote MythTanker wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: waters104 wrote: Lolz we too busy proving ccp that they need to fix pc :D I'm hoping that this particular specimen is trolling and not being serious. There may be quite a few like this guy in DNS. But that doesn't mean every single person in DNS believes this. I never said that everyone was (if i did im sorry) in DNS was that way, you have been one of the more respectable ones, but remember those who do makes it very difficult to respect DNS. CEOs need to put some discpline in their members. I'm not really referring to you here tbh. It's just a general comment. What I had hoped to achieve with this thread was some understanding from people that not everyone in DNS is a prick, because I've been going into threads lately with perfectly reasonable people and seeing 'lol DNS ur opinion is wrong' and suchlike. Unfortunately for an awful lot of people it seems that the hatred runs very deep indeed. And it doesn't help that a number of DNS members decided to troll in here. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums

waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:59:00 - [221] - Quote Excuse my other my other replies i being serious on what i said lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 124	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:59:00 - [222] - Quote waters104 wrote: You guys and including myself are not douches we have a goal and we are determine too succed why nobody else see that have you ever had a goal before lolz Sure, but my goal is rarely to ruin the one game I play the most.
BIind Shot Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 170	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:00:00 - [223] - Quote Faquira Bleuetta wrote: 11 pages of infantile crap debate wow now time to lock the thread in greatness. They knew each other for years, but even from the start, it was undeniable. Kujo had never seen a man a beautiful as Kane. His unrelenting vigor on the battlefield and in the meeting room secured him a firm place in KujoGÇÖs heart. Kane longed for his company, and fondled him whenever and wherever he could. It was the beginning of a PC match, and Molon Labe had no-showed once again. Kane and Kujo sat side by side, alone, gazing at the stars together. It was at this moment that their eyes finally locked together. They were lost in the unfathomable beauty of each other's eyes. Almost immediately their lips touched, and their tongues violently thrashed against each other's succulent faces. They looked and saw the abandoned Chinese restaurant, standard issue for all General Tso districts. The food was left on the tables as their forces evacuated earlier. They ran inside and began to play with their improvised toys. Kujo moaned in ecstasy as Kane caressed his chest with greasy noodles. The grease rubbed off on both of them, making their succulent bodies glisten in the light. Their lips were locked furiously while Kujo returned the favor, rubbing KaneGÇÖs throbbing manhood. As they took off their armor and clothing, their erect peacemakers stroked against one another, causing Kane and Kujo to moan in delight. Once nude, Kane gave Kujo a loving, but firm spank on his soft ass. Kujo, still covered in noodles, lunged at Kane, tackling him to the floor. Their chests rubbed together as their moist tongues played a fierce territorial war in each otherGÇÖs mouths. Kane gripped Kujo by his hair, making it clear that he would be the dominant party, and Kujo would be his loving, submissive slave. Kane grabbed a pan and proceeded to whack KujoGÇÖs ass furiously while Kujo sat there bent over. Kujo moaned with pure glee as the pan made contact with his ass time and time again, with increasing force upon each strike. Kane realized that his new slave needed greater punishment. he grabbed his favorite dragon dildo, and superglued it onto the back of the pan. Upon the swinging of the pan, the dragon dildo buried itself deep into KujoGÇÖs bleeding rectum. Kujo lost all control of his sphincter immediately, as Kane pushed and pulled the toy, causing unimaginable anal pleasure, as Kujo had no choice but to except this erect dragon dildo deep into his rectum. Kane decided that this was enough, and removed the pan after pulling for a few seconds. KujoGÇÖs ass spewed forth a stream of blood, fecal matter, and a third unknown fluid. Kane grabbed his hair as he inserted his throbbing, 8 inch **, into KujoGÇÖs anal cavity. Kujo recoiled and grabbed the carpet in rectal satisfaction. He handed Kane a giant rib he found off the floor, it was perfect. Kane shoved the rib into his rectum as he violently pleasured Kujo. They both let forth screams of pleasure as they showed their ungodly love for each other. After a few rounds of ***, they went to the toy store. Like all Molon Labe districts, the toy store was composed almost entirely of sex toys. They took the nearest dildos and put them on the pelvises of service drones. The drones were set to pleasure mode, and began their mission. They simultaneously pounded the assholes of Kujo and his master, as they held hands and screamed in joy. Their sweat and soy sauce were the only forms of lube, which they would use as they took turns shoving their throbbing manhoods against each other. Suddenly, it was apparent that more needed to be done, they grabbed the biggest toy they could find, a 48 inch, double sided dragon dildo, and plunged it straight into their rectums. As they moved closer together, their anal cavities bled in pure pleasure as they ruptured their lower body organs with the might of their massive toy. Now hemorrhaging internally, the pair met lips once again, only this time, that too was not enough. Only the blood and fecal matter gushing from their rectums could curb their lustful appetite. Now vomiting and defecating a mixture of * and blood, the pair embraced each other, as they took turns sucking on the otherGÇÖs rock hard package. Kujo cried tears of joy, not believing the orgasmic joy he received from his dominatrix daddy, Kane. As they lay there in the bodily fluids they had spread all across the district, they knew the final act they had to perform. Kane took his nova knife and plunged it into KujoGÇÖs abdomen. He used it like a boxcutter, opening up Kujo from appendix to ribcage. He then filled his chest cavity with noodles, as he ejaculated into one of KujoGÇÖs exposed veins. Kujo vomited with joy and their lips met one final time. Bleeding out from lethal amounts of love making, Kujo gave one final look into KaneGÇÖs eyes. Near-death, he filled his mouth with KaneGÇÖs **, biting upon orgasm to show his affection. Kane slit his own throat, and the two bled out clutching each other in their arms. Upon respawning at the nearest CRU, Kujo gently grabbed KaneGÇÖs hand and whispered in his ear: GÇ£Lets merge our alliances.GÇ¥ You should of used more than 2 paragraphs for this little novel of yours. Would of been an easier read. and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12861	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:00:00 - [224] - Quote waters104 wrote: Excuse my other my other replies i being serious on what i said lolz waters, I don't mean to be mean or anything, but this probably isn't the place to be starting your forum career. You're not helping. emtbraincase wrote: waters104 wrote: You guys and including myself are not douches we have a goal and we are determine too succed why nobody else see that have you ever had a goal before lolz Sure, but my goal is rarely to ruin the one game I play the most. And again, we have this 'blurf ur ruining the game'. How? PC? As an alliance, we effectively own PC, that's true. But it's unfeasible for any one group to break away and start fighting the others because they'll get utterly wrecked. Pub-stomping? This is hardly just DNS doing this. Practically any organised squad will stomp the opposition completely, and prototype gear is not so expensive that nobody else can afford to run it. Hell, before I joined DNS I subsisted for half a year on the funds I got from the Uprising refund, permanently running prototype gear, even after giving away ISK. That was without any PC funding. How is it that DNS, specifically, alone amongst all other groups, completely ruins the game? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:03:00 - [225] - Quote One more thing then lolz like he said not everyone is a **** in dns it just shows the ones that braging are immature lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 51	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:13:00 - [226] - Quote I'm just hated eaqually no matter what corp or alliance I'm in and I love it and as for thinking we all proto stomp it's all lies cause I stomp most of you out in a dren sent BPO fit Now send me some more E-tears ease I'm thirsty
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 124	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:13:00 - [227] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: waters104 wrote: Excuse my other my other replies i being serious on what i said lolz waters, I don't mean to be mean or anything, but this probably isn't the place to be starting your forum career. You're not helping. emtbraincase wrote: waters104 wrote: You guys and including myself are not douches we have a goal and we are determine too succed why nobody else see that have you ever had a goal before lolz Sure, but my goal is rarely to ruin the one game I play the most. And again, we have this 'blurf ur ruining the game'. How? PC? As an alliance, we effectively own PC, that's true. But it's unfeasible for any one group to break away and start fighting the others because they'll get utterly wrecked. Pub-stomping? This is hardly just DNS doing this. Practically any organised squad will stomp the opposition completely, and prototype gear is not so expensive that nobody else can afford to run it. Hell, before I joined DNS I subsisted for half a year on the funds I got from the Uprising refund, permanently running prototype gear, even after giving away ISK. That was without any PC funding. How is it that DNS, specifically, alone amongst all other groups, completely ruins the game? If I pubstomp I run the risk of going broke. NOBODY in DNS runs the risk of going broke if they hand out a few million a day to randoms and STILL run proto all day in pubs. THAT is how you are ruining the game for those who have absolutely zero aspirations of PC. You earn isk through PC, we earn isk from pubs. You stomp in pubs, we cannot make isk. You wanna go a long way earning less ire from the community? Ban all corpmates from using any suit/weapon above adv in a pub. You are all supposedly good enough that you would still top the boards, but those less active players would have a chance. I would love to see tankers gone as well, but again a limit to MLT tanks would also work. They still tank, but not automatically the best thing on the field. I could/would care less if you owned 100% of PC if you kept that isk outta pubs. Pretty sure I'm not the only one.
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 51	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:17:00 - [228] - Quote Why don't you just read up ^^^ before you rage for no reason
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12862	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:22:00 - [229] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: If I pubstomp I run the risk of going broke. NOBODY in DNS runs the risk of going broke if they hand out a few million a day to randoms and STILL run proto all day in pubs. THAT is how you are ruining the game for those who have absolutely zero aspirations of PC. You earn isk through PC, we earn isk from pubs. You stomp in pubs, we cannot make isk. But you can make ISK. There is nothing stopping you from making ISK. You will make ISK even if you AFK the match. Running proto won't even reduce your payout by stomping you if you actually fight - destroying them will result in a much larger payout. Also, anyone who is actually a vet almost certainly doesn't 'run the risk of going broke' because they have a massive quantity of ISK themselves given to them by the Uprising refunds. I lived off that for months after Uprising and still had hundreds of millions left before seeing a single ISK from PC. Protostomping is not something that just DNS do. Loads of people do it. And regardless of the ISK levels behind it, the net result is the same - somebody gets stomped horribly by a load of guys in proto. If this is what is 'ruining the game' it is not DNS alone that is doing it. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 125	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:52:00 - [230] - Quote added numbers to make answering easier. Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: emtbraincase wrote: If I pubstomp I run the risk of going broke. NOBODY in DNS runs the risk of going broke if they hand out a few million a day to randoms and STILL run proto all day in pubs. THAT is how you are ruining the game for those who have absolutely zero aspirations of PC. You earn isk through PC, we earn isk from pubs. You stomp in pubs, we cannot make isk. 1)But you can make ISK. There is nothing stopping you from making ISK. You will make ISK even if you AFK the match. Running proto won't even reduce your payout by stomping you if you actually fight - destroying them will result in a much larger payout. 2)Also, anyone who is actually a vet almost certainly doesn't 'run the risk of going broke' because they have a massive quantity of ISK themselves given to them by the Uprising refunds. I lived off that for months after Uprising and still had hundreds of millions left before seeing a single ISK from PC. Protostomping is not something that just DNS do. Loads of people do it. 3)And regardless of the ISK levels behind it, the net result is the same - somebody gets stomped horribly by a load of guys in proto. If this is what is 'ruining the game' it is not DNS alone that is doing it. 1a) And it is what I currently do, and have done, since PC started being abused awhile ago. Only run proto when I have/had a good enough squad to support it. 2a)What do you call a "vet"? I played open beta, but had other games I played more at the time. Came back, on-and-off again for awhile and I've been playing solid over a year. If I want a competitive match with DNS members I have to be prepared to lose 1-3 million (4-15 deaths) on a pub where my best payout ever was 700k+ isk (we barely beat a DNS squad in the gal research facility for that, and had about 7k WP to get that much). If I run into a squad of your proto every other match (which is more likely than you would think) then the math gets expensive. I'm by no means broke, but if I run that way for a few days my bankroll could disappear quickly. Most people don't have hundreds of millions laying around, they can't all be as good as DNS corpmembers. 3a)Still haven't addressed the issue I brought up, which was why do you need to bring isk earned from PC into the pub matches. You could play FW all day long, spending that isk there (which we don't expect to earn isk at anyway), and leaving pubs alone. But your corps intentionally run pubs, thus having an endless supply of suits versus most average people's limited stockpiles for any individual match. If you really don't see the issue here, there is not much else we can say. Simplest solution to this would be DNS corps staying outta pubs unless they run adv at best (weap & suit) and save their protostomping for a FW queue-sync. You could even organize a match between yourselves in FW to get that challenge you all seem to be looking for. You will disappear in our eyes, and thus the hate will end. Only reason not to is because it isn't just about the isk, but being able to hold it over people to make them do as you please. I hope it actually is just about isk, but I doubt it is for most of your members.

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1939	Posted - 2014.04.28 22:57:00 - [231] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: waters104 wrote: What is that suppose to mean * scratches head* That's basically my exasperation at a random DNS member coming in and undermining the idea that we're not all arrogant douchebags. This only makes me think that you are all arrogant douchebags and that this is only an attempt by you at damage control. Seriously, I highly doubt that there is anyone on the forums who isn't DNS (or a DNS alt or paid by DNS to give lip service) who doesn't agree with that. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a duck right? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
M1A1 Blaster Master Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:03:00 - [232] - Quote Atiim wrote: M1A1 Blaster Master wrote: I call in tanks in every pub match I am in because that is what I do. It is unfortunate that I only get good fights when others from DNS are on the other side though. I'd be happy to have a TvT fight against you :^) I know for a fact that me sneaking up on you during a reload is the only way I would win that battle.
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 51	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:06:00 - [233] - Quote Hmm where did this all go K61-D13
M1A1 Blaster Master Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:09:00 - [234] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: If I pubstomp I run the risk of going broke. NOBODY in DNS runs the risk of going broke if they hand out a few million a day to randoms and STILL run proto all day in pubs. THAT is how you are ruining the game for those who have absolutely zero aspirations of PC. You earn isk through PC, we earn isk from pubs. You stomp in pubs, we cannot make isk. You wanna go a long way earning less ire from the community? Ban all corpmates from using any suit/weapon above adv in a pub. You are all supposedly good enough that you would still top the boards, but those less active players would have a chance. I would love to see tankers gone as well, but again a limit to MLT tanks would also work. They still tank, but not automatically the best thing on the field. I could/would care less if you owned 100% of PC if you kept that isk outta pubs. Pretty sure I'm not the only one. I only get paychecks if I participate in PC battles. Being as most timers are for when I am sleeping I don't make much money just because I am in DNS. This idea that everyone in DNS is filthy rich is just another false claim made by the hater crew.
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:12:00 - [235] - Quote Spssh we dont get paid to do lip services lolz its on our own free will to do soo " if we wanted" but most people are just assuming and dont think sooo this is all opinions nothing less... lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1940	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:17:00 - [236] - Quote waters104 wrote: Spssh we dont get paid to do lip services lolz its on our own free will to do soo " if we wanted" but most people are just assuming and dont think sooo this is all opinions nothing less... lolz Well, you're a special one here aren't you? Why would DNS pay a member of DNS to give lip service? Derp. I think you should listen to Arkena, though if you choose not to, please by all means, choose not to..... You'll just feed fuel to the "hater crew". Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 51	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:21:00 - [237] - Quote Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries BPO-> K61-D13
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:25:00 - [238] - Quote Dont hate the game, hate the player :D Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 93	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:34:00 - [239] - Quote I don't hate DNS (or anyone else, for that matter), but just look around you, there's obviously some bad seeds in DNS that are making you ALL look bad. I won't name any names (like I said, just look around, it isn't difficult to figure out who they are), but as long as these particular individuals share your tag, they do represent you all in the community by association. As long as they continue to flaunt their success and wealth, mock and troll the rest of the community, and generally act like idiots, then they'll continue dragging the rest of you all down with them, whether you like it or not.
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:41:00 - [240] - Quote Depends mostly on maturity really Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?

emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 125	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:44:00 - [241] - Quote Global Enforcer wrote: Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4560	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:46:00 - [242] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: Global Enforcer wrote: Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost. You could get the BPO Templars for the same price and stats, actually, better stats. So, how is his argument invalid, again? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 49	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:51:00 - [243] - Quote Atiim wrote: Bones McGavins wrote: Only corps in DNS that really had that same imp vibe before DNS are FA, AE and teamplayers. I'm sure the others have thier top PC squads too, but they are a lot less elite/intimidating. I'd put RND up there too. Though from the looks of it, HvLP is going to become the next FA Thx RND is under lots of peoples radar kinda funny really but we dnt talk alot bout r wins so thats probably why. Its kool though they well learn eventually TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 125	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:51:00 - [244] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: emtbraincase wrote: Global Enforcer wrote: Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost. You could get the BPO Templars for the same price and stats, actually, better stats. So, how is his argument invalid, again? So where on the marketplace can I buy these? Only ones I've seen are sold by individuals I wouldn't trust with a pile of *****, let alone any of my information/isk/aur.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4560	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:52:00 - [245] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: emtbraincase wrote: Global Enforcer wrote: Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost. You could get the BPO Templars for the same price and stats, actually, better stats. So, how is his argument invalid, again? So where on the marketplace can I buy these? Only ones I've seen are sold by individuals I wouldn't trust with a pile of *****, let alone any of my information/isk/aur. That's your choice. I bought mine through Tradehub, 100% trust worthy. do a topic search on this forum "Tradehub" one word, and put in an order. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
PLAYSTTION Universal Allies Inc. 100	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:58:00 - [246] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? U should pay other corps to fight you ( like mine ) share the wealth -Open Beta Vet 20 mil sp- Laser+Flaylock Dust 514 recruitment link here.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 756	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:01:00 - [247] - Quote So did you get your answer Arkena? We can pickle that.
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 125	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:02:00 - [248] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: emtbraincase wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: emtbraincase wrote: Global Enforcer wrote: Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost. You could get the BPO Templars for the same price and stats, actually, better stats. So, how is his argument invalid, again? So where on the marketplace can I buy these? Only ones I've seen are sold by individuals I wouldn't trust with a pile of *****, let alone any of my information/isk/aur. That's your choice. I bought mine through Tradehub, 100% trust worthy. do a topic search on this forum "Tradehub" one word, and put in an order. Again, this isn't something that is done through the marketplace. This is done in the meta-game. I have no reason to trust them, and I may not be the only one. So there is no place for someone to buy a BPO from the Dust Marketplace, which is what I said. I saw CCP state they are stopping the sale of BPO's on the marketplace, I bought mine then. So as far as the average person in the game would know, that is it. No more BPO's unless you trust this outside entity. That is all the argument intended. If he runs equivalent and pays for it, then he is at the same spot as a relatively newish player.
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:03:00 - [249] - Quote What happen to the old happy days of dust how come we cant all get along like back then in beta specially q.q its just a game actually ccp is gonna open a new region just instead of it just being moilden heat lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 125	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:05:00 - [250] - Quote waters104 wrote: What happen to the old happy days of dust how come we cant all get along like back then in beta specially q.q its just a game actually ccp is gonna open a new region just instead of it just being moilden heat lolz Back then 1 group didn't own everything, and those who did had to actually defend it.

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4561	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:12:00 - [251] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: [quote=SoTa PoP] Again, this isn't something that is done through the marketplace. This is done in the meta-game. I have no reason to trust them, and I may not be the only one. So there is no place for someone to buy a BPO from the Dust Marketplace, which is what I said. I saw CCP state they are stopping the sale of BPO's on the marketplace, I bought mine then. So as far as the average person in the game would know, that is it. No more BPO's unless you trust this outside entity. That is all the argument intended. If he runs equivalent and pays for it, then he is at the same spot as a relatively newish player. I see your point now, it is pretty crappy the items aren't even listed in the market to be viewed for wether or not it's a good purchase to even go seek it out. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Patrick57 7175	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:13:00 - [252] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: So you are arguing with me that everything I said was correct. Then brag about how much you had by exploiting a game mechanic. THIS is why we hate DNS. Exploiting a game mechanic? Locking was exploiting, taking all the land was not. How am I exploiting? Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:14:00 - [253] - Quote Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 209	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:38:00 - [254] - Quote waters104 wrote: Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing Edit: also try another thread, listen to your alliance mates, your choosing a bad place to start and making a bad name for yourself -holds arms in O-throw it in the story basket bro
Patrick57 7175	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:43:00 - [255] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: waters104 wrote: Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing Really? Does that look like Militia to you? Most players in DNS are skilled. Most. Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4563	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:43:00 - [256] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: waters104 wrote: Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing right, all of a sudden EoN aren't proto stompers anymore This is BS - I was a part of TP when FEC started there massive push, it was nothing but tears about EoN proto stomping everyone because of how many corps were constantly fielding full squads from EoN who could afford FOTM protos constantly. People going as far to call them all no skilled FOTM scrubs who got there millions by abusing every glitch and broken mechanic they could find. If you believe anyone here has more knowledge of the forums goings, make them step up, because when it comes to this place few have longer neck beards then me. And I am going to start fixing all the lies you guys keep coming up with. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 370	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:49:00 - [257] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: It's okay to hate what the alliance because of what it stands for. It's okay to hate a player because of what he posts. It is NOT okay to hate a player SIMPLY because he is in the alliance. Let's not judge the individual by the group. I know some terrible people in DNS, and I also know some of the coolest. I have to agree with this. I know some super cool peeps in DNS... I also know some dbags. But I don't hate the cool guys just because their alliance is full of protostomping tryhards that are collectively ruining the game for nearly every newberry ever. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 209	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:02:00 - [258] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Gaurdian Satyr wrote: waters104 wrote: Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing Really? Does that look like Militia to you? Most players in DNS are skilled. Most. I asume your talking about the tanker but your being ignorant...look at the kiil feed...it was mostly ALL duvolles and Geks on BOTH SIDES...try again And SoTa i might have ignored the forums but i was here when they were around and its was funny going toe to toe with them in militia gear...yes they stomped me...yes i got them sometimes...yes id see i tanker here and there from them but it was still fun fighting them.....if you lose to a team using same stuff as you then you know who is better.....the only proto i saw was ARs and SMGs -holds arms in O-throw it in the story basket bro
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 373	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:04:00 - [259] - Quote its cool that you guys hate DNS but what i want to know is.... what the hell happened in magical warfare these last episodes that plot twist threw me for a loop I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Patrick57 7177	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:05:00 - [260] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: I asume your talking about the tanker but your being ignorant...look at the kiil feed...it was mostly ALL duvolles and Geks on BOTH SIDES...try again This statement isn't defending your argument in any way. So there are GEKs and Duvolles on both sides. What's your point? People can protostomp all they want. You don't have to be in PC to make ISK. Hell, I made 100 mil+ ISK before I was in a PC corp, just running pubs in a corp with a tax. Enough to protostomp for a while. I'm just not getting what you're trying to point out... so people on the other side using Proto as well as people on Nod's team means that EoN. weren't protostompers as well? Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4570	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:06:00 - [261] - Quote Gaurdian Satyr wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Gaurdian Satyr wrote: waters104 wrote: Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing Really? Does that look like Militia to you? Most players in DNS are skilled. Most. I asume your talking about the tanker but your being ignorant...look at the kiil feed...it was mostly ALL duvolles and Geks on BOTH SIDES...try again And SoTa i might have ignored the forums but i was here when they were around and its was funny going toe to toe with them in militia gear...yes they stomped me...yes i got them sometimes...yes id see i tanker here and there from them but it was still fun fighting them.....if you lose to a team using same stuff as you then you know who is better.....the only proto i saw was ARs and SMGs I miss them too, it was the good old days when **** talking was done between two groups willing to go at it over nothing, then laugh there asses off after it's all done. But, we'll get those times back. Skill may mean something again, once CCP realizes how to stop hammering nerfs and buffs and learn to tweak. Poor MD been adjusted how many times? Lol n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 756	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:32:00 - [262] - Quote A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. We can pickle that.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4570	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:37:00 - [263] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7181	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:38:00 - [264] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. I agree with everything in your post, +1. I hate the alliance, and what they're doing (although, just being in the damn alliance makes people hate me... what a community we have ). I want good fights just like anyone else, as does FA's own CEO.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 757	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:49:00 - [265] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- So you think the current state of PC is good? PC is stagnant and dead. New players will not get to see what it could be, only DNS and their magnificent self gratification machine. No one is impressed with it . Coordinating attacks on 2 corps super exciting? You can't even imagine how lame you sound trying to make it sound like a legitimate goal. It's stale and it stinks. The scum rises to the top. Congrats. Now knock it off so we can get back to having fun. I also think it's super cute that you DNS flag waving lunatics think you can get under my skin. You won't. Not on your best day. You guys can keep trying to justify why you're scared to stop it. We can pickle that.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4572	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:55:00 - [266] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- So you think the current state of PC is good? PC is stagnant and dead. New players will not get to see what it could be, only DNS and their magnificent self gratification machine. No one is impressed with it . Coordinating attacks on 2 corps super exciting? You can't even imagine how lame you sound trying to make it sound like a legitimate goal. It's stale and it stinks. The scum rises to the top. Congrats. Now knock it off so we can get back to having fun. I also think it's super cute that you DNS flag waving lunatics think you can get under my skin. You won't. Not on your best day. You guys can keep trying to justify why you're scared to stop it. Didn't answer my question, you avoided it. Care to try again without the rant and tears? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2227	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:59:00 - [267] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? I actually think you're sincere, ( but I will not be surprised if this is a troll post) so I will indulge you... 1. you admit yourself that there are some trashy posters in your alliance.... this makes you all look bad because .... 2. you don't only pub stomp and play favorites with PC, some of the people from reason 1 actually come to the forums to brag about it. 3.while I take into consideration attempting to show ccp how broke their game is, you take it so far to hurt the community and the competition.... when people experience this game for the first time they meet your pub stompers and get turned off from dust, instead of creating some interesting player driven fiction through PC wars you all just allied and made even the meta boring, you suck what life dust has in it out with your blue donut... I could go on but I think this is some of the worst of it, and in case you are trolling I will reserve the rest of my breath. this game makes me sad....
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3547	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:02:00 - [268] - Quote It'll sort itself out. There's zero chance that DNS as it currently stands will hold up. I would have lost ISK that it would stay intact this long. If not for FF I don't believe it would have. With them together in DNS or apart it really doesn't change much for 99% of Dust. Outside of that alliance there is a grand total of two corps capable of defending districts. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1940	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:06:00 - [269] - Quote @SoTa Conquest isn't a bad thing. At least it won't be when we have 64 Regions open and available for PC (this isn't counting the 30 WH Regions). When all we have is 1 Region that is far from being the largest and it is being dominated by a circlejerk of the "most L337" of the community; well, that is simply a massive **** you and cockblock to everyone else and does NOTHING to help the game whatsoever. Conquest is awesome when framed in the right context, as it stands currently, it is doing fuckall for the the community and the game as a whole. This is why IMHO, CCP should remove all of the wealth (Asset and Liquid) generated by PC thus far and rework it into something that is the grand thing we all envision it to be rather than just a simple Passive ISK Faucet camped on by the competitive half-wits of the community who are doing little more than the bidding of a select few. Once it is that grand thing we all envision it to one day be, where Isk is earned only Actively and there are myriad ways in which Corporations of all sizes can get involved, then (and only then) should it be opened to all Regions both in Empire and 0.0 (and WHs too if you ask me). Holding Molden Heath is no grand achievement to be proud of and aspire to. Holding all of Angel space is a grand achievement, something to proudly covet and aspire to. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7185	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:08:00 - [270] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: It'll sort itself out. There's zero chance that DNS as it currently stands will hold up. All these egos in one place! It's awful.

Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 563	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:29:00 - [271] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. TOLD514
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7434	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:39:00 - [272] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. It's not locked out from anybody. All 240 districts are online and can be attacked by anyone within their respective timers If you are incapable of finding 16 players throughout your entire Corporation and Alliance capable of beating a DNS team; you are not PC ready and you should be thanking us for your eviction. Did you know that if you want a district you have to actually fight and win one over? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2230	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:44:00 - [273] - Quote Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... this game makes me sad....
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1678	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:44:00 - [274] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- So you think the current state of PC is good? PC is stagnant and dead. New players will not get to see what it could be, only DNS and their magnificent self gratification machine. No one is impressed with it . Coordinating attacks on 2 corps super exciting? You can't even imagine how lame you sound trying to make it sound like a legitimate goal. It's stale and it stinks. The scum rises to the top. Congrats. Now knock it off so we can get back to having fun. I also think it's super cute that you DNS flag waving lunatics think you can get under my skin. You won't. Not on your best day. You guys can keep trying to justify why you're scared to stop it. So I guess when Molon was on the map, you know, locking a good 10-maybe 15% of the map (numbers may be off, but for a while when you owned land, you had around that number), that didn't make PC stagnant? I guess when your big daddy STB paid off Eon to not attack, then paid off AE when it was in power to not attack, PC must've been fun and full of vibrant faces then. And I guess the multiple times you called in FA while in TSO's to help deal with RA forces, that didn't kill PC either. Geez, Molon seems to be hellbent on trying to tear down DNS rep, but in reality, they're no better, they killed PC by locking before what I call "The Locker Wars", and now that they're off the map, they're trying to play martyr and look like the victim. DNS certainly did kill PC, but Molon certainly did it long before we did. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2230	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:46:00 - [275] - Quote Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. It's not locked out from anybody. All 240 districts are online and can be attacked by anyone within their respective timers If you are incapable of finding 16 players throughout your entire Corporation and Alliance capable of beating a DNS team; you are not PC ready and you should be thanking us for your eviction. Did you know that if you want a district you have to actually fight and win one over? lol most of dns didn't even do that for their districts... quit spreading the BS propaganda....we all see through it... this game makes me sad....
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7434	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:47:00 - [276] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: lol most of dns didn't even do that for their districts... quit spreading the BS propaganda....we all see through it... So we asked all the corps in PC to leave nicely? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9877	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:50:00 - [277] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. It's not locked out from anybody. All 240 districts are online and can be attacked by anyone within their respective timers If you are incapable of finding 16 players throughout your entire Corporation and Alliance capable of beating a DNS team; you are not PC ready and you should be thanking us for your eviction. Did you know that if you want a district you have to actually fight and win one over? lol most of dns didn't even do that for their districts... quit spreading the BS propaganda....we all see through it... It's not even remotely tenable of plausible. Take one District with you clone pack you have DNS breathing down your neck to get it back day in day out, forcing you to upkeep in clone packs. Now you either leave and end your ISK loss, or you are forced to take more group whereby you have to fight more and more matches against, day in day out DNS groups. Its not plausible. Even if a corporation did, and repeatedly won, there is only so long that would possibly last before the landslide that is DNS's weight of ISK and numbers crushes you. Not wrong or anything.....just not possible. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Sollemnis Aelinos 0uter.Heaven Academy 169	Posted - 2014.04.29 02:57:00 - [278] - Quote I meant no offense to any dns memver, but if they are hated by pretty much the entire community, then obviously theres a good reason for it. its something that dns should not simply overlooked. from what i heard, many people wishes nyain san to break their ties with dns. listen guys. i dont hate you and sure you got some egotistical unfortunate guys coughshimikocoughs but if the dns and the community start working together and try to work things out, then mayve something can be resolved, how little it may be Think about the reason you are born look inwars to learn the truth You'er born to develop your soul
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4579	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:15:00 - [279] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1372	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:22:00 - [280] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. did DNS really acomplish anything besides peace? Crush them

Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 564	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:31:00 - [281] - Quote So until the authority restricts you from being a douchebag its A-OK to be a complete douchebag? TOLD514
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2230	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:38:00 - [282] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. saying those things when its an earned victory in a balanced fight, or when someone is QQing about horrendously stupid shite...yeah ... I agree those things have been said since beta and with good reason.... but dns is full of braggarts who didn't earn the right to wield those words. and your right change is needed, and those ideas are a start, but don't pretend to be noble in sending this message to ccp...dns did it for selfish reasons and the way they treat people outside the blue donut is proof of this. the trash your alliance spews in the forums (not all of you, but enough of you with no clarification from dns that this isn't the general opinion you all share) is proof of this. I was part of the beginning of DNS rise to power.... my old corp was one of its victims.... how poorly you treated us... I am proof of this. yes its true dns built a community... but you destroyed one to do it. this game makes me sad....
TrueXer0z DUST University Ivy League 451	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:06:00 - [283] - Quote I'm not going to say that I back what DNS is is doing to PC, but honestly..it is a part of the game we play. Yes, their overwhelming control over the districts is bad for the game. Yes, it is locking out a large portion of the game that currently exists. Yes, some of their membership are trash talking jerks. However, can you judge every plyer involved with the aliance as such? No. These same concepts exist in Eve null sec. If there was an alliance that could hold all of sovereign null I am sure it would be done. I said this a while back, all of the corps that were taking over PC were going to be surprised when eve players turn their eyes to Dust. The current state of PC is exactly what I was talking about. The fact that DNS has held the amount of districts it has is purely due to the lack of interest in corporations willing to play the meta game and band together to start opposing them properly. Of course at this point DNS can just throw isk as the problem and burn out any competitors before they have any real chance at breaking the alliance. Also, part of the main aspects to the current PC issue is that the majority of players in Dust are FPS players that jump corp whenever it is down. There is little loyalty to any specific corp. If the corporations in DNS started losing ground you would see an exodus of players move to what they would think the winning side is. This type of flip flopping would not happen in eve. The organizations would simply not allow it. I congratulate DNS for accomplishing what they have. However, gathering every player that once fought against you is far from impressive. It is hard to tell if the organization of the alliance is put together by a few brilliant minds that exposed a weakness. Or, just a bunch of FPS players gathering to exploit a good thing while it lasts. Either way...they win...whoever is not them loses. This is not poor game design or exploitation of faulty game mechanics. It is the nature of what New Eden is. If you really wanted to stop them then infiltrate their organization and bring it down from the inside. Gather like minded corps and build an alliance and hit DNS with strategy and tactics. In my eyes DNS currently are brute force, but what do I know. They can be taken down I assure you of that. T.L.D.R. - Read the damn post or don't. I don't care. Director, Dust University *~Kevall Longstride for CPM1~*
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3548	Posted - 2014.04.29 04:12:00 - [284] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS. OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC. It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS. The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max. The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter. It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say. What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me. It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it. I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance. You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- So you think the current state of PC is good? PC is stagnant and dead. New players will not get to see what it could be, only DNS and their magnificent self gratification machine. No one is impressed with it . Coordinating attacks on 2 corps super exciting? You can't even imagine how lame you sound trying to make it sound like a legitimate goal. It's stale and it stinks. The scum rises to the top. Congrats. Now knock it off so we can get back to having fun. I also think it's super cute that you DNS flag waving lunatics think you can get under my skin. You won't. Not on your best day. You guys can keep trying to justify why you're scared to stop it. So I guess when Molon was on the map, you know, locking a good 10-maybe 15% of the map (numbers may be off, but for a while when you owned land, you had a good number of districts), that didn't make PC stagnant? I guess when your big daddy STB paid off Eon to not attack, then paid off AE when it was in power to not attack, PC must've been fun and full of vibrant faces then. And I guess the multiple times you called in FA while in TSO's to help deal with RA forces, that didn't kill PC either. Geez, Molon seems to be hellbent on trying to tear down DNS rep, but in reality, they're no better, they killed PC by locking before what I call "The Locker Wars", and now that they're off the map, they're trying to play martyr and look like the victim. DNS certainly did kill PC, but Molon certainly did it long before we did. I hear you, but if you don't see the difference between what DNS stands for in terms of the health of any game and locking 10 districts then I'm not sure what to tell you. I can assure you that we don't feel like victims. Nowhere do we state that we deserve a spot on the PC table handed to us. I don't think anyone QQing about DNS wants anything handed to them, but the concentration of talent in PC is strangling the air out of any expansion outside of those who currently reside in DNS. The situation in PC is bad if you guys are all in an alliance or not. Either way it's a couple hundred of the same dudes duking it out. I guess there just happens to be many players in my corp that see something threatening the longevity of a game that they enjoy. Whether that's rational or not, it appears from all these threads that these harsh opinion's of many within my corp are shared by a staggering amount of people not associated with ML. Level 3 Forum Warrior
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4584	Posted - 2014.04.29 06:13:00 - [285] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. did DNS really acomplish anything besides peace? Guys, honestly **** DNS. I mean them no offense, but they're just our support. Look at each corp individually - are you saying they've done nothing to earn there spots? Each corp is legit, even if you guys want to spit on them for not being good as the 'top 3 dogs' Give credit where it's due - DNS didn't do crap. NF, NS, AE, DDB, CAP, they are the ones who individually deserves the respect they've fought for all this time. It's been a year plus guys, don't let the action of the past month dictate everything a corp has achieved. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4584	Posted - 2014.04.29 06:17:00 - [286] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. saying those things when its an earned victory in a balanced fight, or when someone is QQing about horrendously stupid shite...yeah ... I agree those things have been said since beta and with good reason.... but dns is full of braggarts who didn't earn the right to wield those words. and your right change is needed, and those ideas are a start, but don't pretend to be noble in sending this message to ccp...dns did it for selfish reasons and the way they treat people outside the blue donut is proof of this. the trash your alliance spews in the forums (not all of you, but enough of you with no clarification from dns that this isn't the general opinion you all share) is proof of this. I was part of the beginning of DNS rise to power.... my old corp was one of its victims.... how poorly you treated us... I am proof of this. yes its true dns built a community... but you destroyed one to do it. Pretend to be noble? Stop trying to crap on me please, I am not noble. I will ** YOU HARD FOR *** WITH ME. But when you're not ***** with me, I'm a caring guy who loves this game. I do want to help, but I am not your solution. You are your own solution. CCP isn't going to reset MH or the ISK - and when new territories open up are you going to roll over when DNS shows up? Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU! n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 53	Posted - 2014.04.29 11:56:00 - [287] - Quote I just find it funny that most of us having playing since closed beta or even before and it's most of the newer guys that are raging about DNS, maybe the rage about pub games where you are getting stomped should be direct to CCP on the grounds of a actually match making system and as far as pc goes I would just wait until more areas are open for pc BPO-> K61-D13
Global Enforcer Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 53	Posted - 2014.04.29 12:00:00 - [288] - Quote I won't lie I do feel bad for new ppl just coming out of academy into games with ppl that have over 20mil sp, I personally think for pubs we should have 3 match systems, 0-5mil sp matches 5-15mil so matches then 15mil+ matches this would stop almost all the new guys leaving instantly and most of the rage about pubs but as pc is concerned I pretty much have ideas how that would be fixed BPO-> K61-D13
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 566	Posted - 2014.04.29 12:23:00 - [289] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU! You know full well its logistically impossible. This will never happen, this isnt EVE where there is an actual community. And there can be no matchmaking when there are 20% new people and 80% vets in pubs. Get your head out of your ass, you are just as much a part of the problem as CCPs inability to fix this shit. TOLD514
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4615	Posted - 2014.04.29 12:27:00 - [290] - Quote Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU! You know full well its logistically impossible. This will never happen, this isnt EVE where there is an actual community. And there can be no matchmaking when there are 20% new people and 80% vets in pubs. Get your head out of your ass, you are just as much a part of the problem as CCPs inability to fix this shit. Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot

Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 384	Posted - 2014.04.29 12:28:00 - [291] - Quote I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping. And I don't care... I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design. And I don't care... Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired. People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it. Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 210	Posted - 2014.04.29 13:23:00 - [292] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping. And I don't care... I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design. And I don't care... Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired. People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it. Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. So with little resources cause it all comes from stomped pubs, only a few man power cause corps with the manpower dont want to go PC cause itll be a isk sink with little reward, we have the idea...isk donation is trying but little answer the call, are suppose to take down a something that has infinite resources, alot of man power, and gets to choose when the matches are basically.....good idea we will also follow your banner since its your idea -holds arms in O-throw it in the story basket bro
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1943	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:22:00 - [293] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping. And I don't care... I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design. And I don't care... Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired. People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it. Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. I find this to be hilarious, as though everyone who ever had any plans for PC planned on bluing up with as many other PC entities as possible and farming Isk. Did you ever think that not everyone wants to just farm Isk? Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe people want to have a PC that isn't a stagnant circlejerk? PC was a failed experiment from day one though CCP has allowed it to run on for long enough that it now threatens the longevity of the game. Conquest is NOT a bad idea, it is just that right now IS a bad time for it. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 945	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:30:00 - [294] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there. I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof. So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred? It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS. And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know. There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it? So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS? I don't hate them, I don't even care about DNS. But what they did is bad for the game and that is something I dislike. Its not all their fault that's clear without CCPs ignoring stance towards exploiters and boosters its mainly CCP to blame for the current situation. But it's not CCP's fault alone without people who believe the only way to have fun is to exploit the hell out of a game we would not be here as well so they are to blame as well. But as I said I don't care anymore as CCP willingly let PC die why should I care? The sad part is whatever CCP will do to save PC it won't work as too much damage has been done...unless CCP takes drastic measures (and I am sure they won't)
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:38:00 - [295] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Reign Omega wrote: I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping. And I don't care... I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design. And I don't care... Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired. People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it. Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. I find this to be hilarious, as though everyone who ever had any plans for PC planned on bluing up with as many other PC entities as possible and farming Isk. Did you ever think that not everyone wants to just farm Isk? Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe people want to have a PC that isn't a stagnant circlejerk? PC was a failed experiment from day one though CCP has allowed it to run on for long enough that it now threatens the longevity of the game. Conquest is NOT a bad idea, it is just that right now IS a bad time for it. Then stop them if you can, or if you care. Plenty of people seem to be so bothered by it. What's the purpose of pc? To own all the land....Just like the unification of China or Japan who would be content owning a percent if you think you can take it all. Don't be mad you were slow to act. What other poi t than to be the best? Pardon me by this point in the day I'm too drunk to hold a debate lmao Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1943	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:42:00 - [296] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Reign Omega wrote: I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping. And I don't care... I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design. And I don't care... Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired. People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it. Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. I find this to be hilarious, as though everyone who ever had any plans for PC planned on bluing up with as many other PC entities as possible and farming Isk. Did you ever think that not everyone wants to just farm Isk? Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe people want to have a PC that isn't a stagnant circlejerk? PC was a failed experiment from day one though CCP has allowed it to run on for long enough that it now threatens the longevity of the game. Conquest is NOT a bad idea, it is just that right now IS a bad time for it. Then stop them if you can, or if you care. Plenty of people seem to be so bothered by it. What's the purpose of pc? To own all the land....Just like the unification of China or Japan who would be content owning a percent if you think you can take it all. Don't be mad you were slow to act. What other poi t than to be the best? Pardon me by this point in the day I'm too drunk to hold a debate lmao We can discuss this when you're not drunk because you are obviously not getting what I am trying to say. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:12:00 - [297] - Quote Dns? Hold my beer..... had a long and presumably coherent post I deleted lol. Yeah I will revisit this thread when I wake up. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7443	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:14:00 - [298] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Atiim wrote: Your Absolut End wrote: When I got an invite to said corp by one of your DNS-Allies he told me you're building am elite corp only open to join with invitation. Whats the deal, have the plans changed?Still wondering why he sits in ERA since he told me he'd join after 2 weeks which is overdue 2 weeks by now ;) Got names & pics? Yes and yes got an offer to make? Probably I'm buyable ;) Hell no. I just want to know who sent it to you. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Zcynx Rivera S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 24	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:29:00 - [299] - Quote Its not a matter of hate. The reason the community as a whole prefers not to deal with them whatsoever, or ignore their existence, is because they have not only taken advantage of a broken system(which they know it will hurt the game and its players more than anything), but they continue to do so happily and are destroying what is left of the player base just so they can have the "Top Corp" status. It is ok to aim to be the best of the best, but when you are ruining it for the rest of us by exploiting, cheating, specially scaring away newcomers, that's when you cross the line. I understand there are some of you who enjoy the game and want to be as fair as possible, but sadly the majority will always speak for all of you and they have demonstrated countless times that they do not care for this games future. What confuses me even more is what are they gaining from all of this? In the end if this game shuts down they have nothing and will be nothing. So why even try? I'm sure they will come with some sorry excuse, or will try to justify what is said about them, but in truth the community does not care anymore. Actions speak louder than words. Sorry to you and the few who took the time to ask why, while the rest continues to do what they do best.
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2238	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:08:00 - [300] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise. And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. saying those things when its an earned victory in a balanced fight, or when someone is QQing about horrendously stupid shite...yeah ... I agree those things have been said since beta and with good reason.... but dns is full of braggarts who didn't earn the right to wield those words. and your right change is needed, and those ideas are a start, but don't pretend to be noble in sending this message to ccp...dns did it for selfish reasons and the way they treat people outside the blue donut is proof of this. the trash your alliance spews in the forums (not all of you, but enough of you with no clarification from dns that this isn't the general opinion you all share) is proof of this. I was part of the beginning of DNS rise to power.... my old corp was one of its victims.... how poorly you treated us... I am proof of this. yes its true dns built a community... but you destroyed one to do it. Pretend to be noble? Stop trying to crap on me please, I am not noble. I will ** YOU HARD FOR *** WITH ME. But when you're not ***** with me, I'm a caring guy who loves this game. I do want to help, but I am not your solution. You are your own solution. CCP isn't going to reset MH or the ISK - and when new territories open up are you going to roll over when DNS shows up? Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU! all I can say to this post is "TROLL" YOU KNOW FULL WELL THIS IS A BUNCH OF bs AND FRANKLY I'm OFFENDED THAT YOU THINK I'm DUMB ENOUGH TO (woah caps...not retyping sry) eat this shite up.... and for the record I'm not talking about you personally in my posts... when I say "you" I mean DNS....again sry for the caps... but respectfully, ef you for trying to shove this garbage down our throats, a post like yours only further proves what manipulative, selfish soulless monsters you all are. this game makes me sad....

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4641	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:12:00 - [301] - Quote Only person forcing people to read garbage posts is you. Please, spare the forums of any further IQ loss and just stop posting. It's starting to feel like you're intentionally trying to make me farm likes. I've got plenty already, thanks. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 569	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:15:00 - [302] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. TOLD514
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1872	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:16:00 - [303] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2093051#post2093051 Could be a reason.. good point... Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 648	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:17:00 - [304] - Quote DNS made Jungian quite the game! There I said it. Lulz Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1872	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:18:00 - [305] - Quote Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4643	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:19:00 - [306] - Quote Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. I never said anything about funding, did I? I said, recruit talent, and let it help you. How long do you think it takes an intelligent person to figure out Dust strategies? How much effort do you think it takes for 16 players to properly coordinate to be effective? You, are, a, failure. If you want to give up, then leave, get the out of the forums too, we don't need your negativity swallowing to even further negative direction. What we need are people who can rise up, find talent, and bring it together to strengthen the corps in this game to add more strong teams to prevent a donut from happening again. All you *** see from my post is whatever the ** you want. Seriously, just leave the forums if this is all your worth. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 126	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:22:00 - [307] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. I never said anything about funding, did I? I said, recruit talent, and let it help you. How long do you think it takes an intelligent person to figure out Dust strategies? How much effort do you think it takes for 16 players to properly coordinate to be effective? You, are, a, failure. If you want to give up, then leave, get the out of the forums too, we don't need your negativity swallowing to even further negative direction. What we need are people who can rise up, find talent, and bring it together to strengthen the corps in this game to add more strong teams to prevent a donut from happening again. All you *** see from my post is whatever the ** you want. Seriously, just leave the forums if this is all your worth. That already happened. Then they ALL joined DNS to take part in the isk printing.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4643	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:22:00 - [308] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is *** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the ** up. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4643	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:24:00 - [309] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. I never said anything about funding, did I? I said, recruit talent, and let it help you. How long do you think it takes an intelligent person to figure out Dust strategies? How much effort do you think it takes for 16 players to properly coordinate to be effective? You, are, a, failure. If you want to give up, then leave, get the out of the forums too, we don't need your negativity swallowing to even further negative direction. What we need are people who can rise up, find talent, and bring it together to strengthen the corps in this game to add more strong teams to prevent a donut from happening again. All you *** see from my post is whatever the you want. Seriously, just leave the forums if this is all your worth. That already happened. Then they ALL joined DNS to take part in the isk printing. Bullshit. Since starting HvLP I now have unknowns being pulled into ERA/FA/AE matches. There is skill out there, I am finding out, and I am building an ANIME EMPIRE with it, because I am not a beaten down piece of trash. HULK THE UP GUYS. When CCP opens more land - you going to let us have that too? Enjoy being under my foot while I keep recruiting more and more talent from pub games, because that's all I'm really doing, and it's bringing me talent and new friends left and ***** right. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 126	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:26:00 - [310] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is *** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the ** up. How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way.

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4643	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:29:00 - [311] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is *** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the up. How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way. How about you show me you're worth giving a for and put a team together to sync against my team. Why the do I have to solve YOUR problems? I have been on this side of the fence since last year, working my ass off in PC. You want a free ride? Then *** show me what you got, and maybe I'll help you out more. Growth doesn't need to come from just ISK, tax rates from people willing to work together can pool TONS of money, ask STB and ML!!!!!!!! , guys, I' tired as hell and just want to cuss at people, so forgive me but grow some ***** balls before asking me too. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3688	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:30:00 - [312] - Quote I don't hate DNS, i have a lot of friends in DNS. But it's something about watching some of there members cry that makes me want to poke them with a stick, because it's a game and i'm and ass hole plus DNS gives good fights, i fight them not because i hate them but because i like fights. Sir Hadah for CPM
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 390	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:32:00 - [313] - Quote Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this **** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1949	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:32:00 - [314] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is *** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the ** up. Lol, competitive atmosphere, I didn't know that circlejerking was competitive. It is the guys like you that should make you sick, you don't even know what the true meaning of competition is. Apparently, you think that getting everyone together in a giant circle singing kumbaya and fellating one another is competition. If you are actually looking for competition, why does DNS suck up all of the self-proclaimed elite and then sit around complaining that no one is really giving them any competition? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1391	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:33:00 - [315] - Quote There is a shitload of talent scattered across a bunch of corps. What I see is good players who don't have the means or conviction to make a stand. A lot of us prefer hangin with our own guys. I tried to make a team of ppl who could fight you guys but the talent seems to be reserved for other things. No corp hopping or alliance joining. A simple 16man team working together. People would rather not fight you guys. Instead they complain here and ingame. It is sad. I am sickened by how spineless the community is. I guess its the pub stomped mentality. Crush them
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 573	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:36:00 - [316] - Quote Lo and behold, the ivory tower philosopher-¦s view on the world! You have no Idea what the **** you are talking about, listening to you is like listening to a 16by/o upper-middle class suburban kid complaining about all the poor people not being rich. TOLD514
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4643	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:36:00 - [317] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this ** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I *** could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ***** sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4643	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:38:00 - [318] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Lo and behold, the ivory tower philosopher-¦s view on the world! You have no Idea what the ** you are talking about, listening to you is like listening to a 16by/o upper-middle class suburban kid complaining about all the poor people not being rich. Bullshit, you're the scrub whose never made it in game, where as my newest corp could crush yours in seconds, using guys who are not from Negative-Feedback or Renegade Alliance. That's your position, that's your weakness, that's you accepting defeat and my shoes up your ass. Stop it, get a fire in your belly, grow your teams, and hulk the ** up. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1949	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:39:00 - [319] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this ** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I *** could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ***** sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1393	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:39:00 - [320] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: D legendary hero wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE???? Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it. There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate. It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving ** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is *** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the ** up. Lol, competitive atmosphere, I didn't know that circlejerking was competitive. It is the guys like you that should make you sick, you don't even know what the true meaning of competition is. Apparently, you think that getting everyone together in a giant circle singing kumbaya and fellating one another is competition. If you are actually looking for competition, why does DNS suck up all of the self-proclaimed elite and then sit around complaining that no one is really giving them any competition? honestly I am guessing the public face of DNS is a cover for some EVE plot. That would be cooler than a bunch of guys just holding hands. Also it would play more to the stories I hear about eve. maybe I am just being wishful in my thinking. If it is really just an isk farm then I pity them. Either way its a sand box way to integrate eve and dust by some members of the community. they were probably sick of waiting for CCP to add more integration. Who really knows tho? Crush them

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4646	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:42:00 - [321] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this ** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I *** could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ***** sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 93	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:42:00 - [322] - Quote So, still wondering why some people hate DNS? lol
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 648	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:45:00 - [323] - Quote Nobody works for free and everyman had his price. I can recruit a hundred talented players, build them up hard and carefully not burn them out. Raise taxes to fund an offensive against some one in the blue donut, fight, lose and grind; repeating the process. But nobody works for free: be it emotional investment into their corp and character, be it the logistical aspects of funding a war and grinding the isk or wanting a paycheck for fighting and dying again and again. These practices are not eternally sustainable. Humans are not robots. Attrition takes a toll. The better supplied wins. It's economic warfare at it's purest and when you're looking up that mountain you have to fight on, it's hard to give a siht because the costs are too high for such marginal returns. .. if you ever make them. Hence why the donut thrives unmolested. Now let's say there are few corps that are hardened, battle ready and with enough morale to make a war. Wtf is going to stop you or Kane or fiddlestix from coming along and buying out the opposition? You have a huge cash reserve and a large concentration of rich players in case of an emergency. Every man has his price. 3XXXD learned that the hard way in the last concerted effort against proto-DNS. Not too many are willing to make those mistakes again without the rewards looking pretty damn good. The broken system has won SoTa and since DNS assembled in top of it, not too many look favorably on it You know it. We know it. Maybe not all the pubbies know it, but that's how it is. Trying to rouse opposition from guys who understand economics of scale and wars of attrition are quite possibly the last target audience you should seek. Granted you are a master troll and spin doctor, the silence from in game should really resonate the truth. DNS had won DUST 1.0. We're waiting for some sort of change to make the trouble with fighting fir again. Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
Sarcastic Dreamkiller BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 123	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:47:00 - [324] - Quote ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. [/quote] sensiable? Sense is ***** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the up. [/quote] How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way.[/quote] How about you show me you're worth giving a for and put a team together to sync against my team. Why the do I have to solve YOUR problems? I have been on this side of the fence since last year, working my ass off in PC. You want a free ride? Then *** show me what you got, and maybe I'll help you out more. Growth doesn't need to come from just ISK, tax rates from people willing to work together can pool TONS of money, ask STB and ML!!!!!!!! , guys, I' tired as hell and just want to cuss at people, so forgive me but grow some ***** balls before asking me too.[/quote] I'd like to add that in a single pc game, isk is only matters to a certain point. Once the clone pack is purchased and the squad has their gear, isk is no longer a factor in anything.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1949	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:48:00 - [325] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Lol, competitive atmosphere, I didn't know that circlejerking was competitive. It is the guys like you that should make you sick, you don't even know what the true meaning of competition is. Apparently, you think that getting everyone together in a giant circle singing kumbaya and fellating one another is competition. If you are actually looking for competition, why does DNS suck up all of the self-proclaimed elite and then sit around complaining that no one is really giving them any competition? honestly I am guessing the public face of DNS is a cover for some EVE plot. That would be cooler than a bunch of guys just holding hands. Also it would play more to the stories I hear about eve. maybe I am just being wishful in my thinking. If it is really just an isk farm then I pity them. Either way its a sand box way to integrate eve and dust by some members of the community. they were probably sick of waiting for CCP to add more integration. Who really knows tho? IDK, while I will agree that yes that would be cooler, I honestly doubt it is something that complex. I'd be willing to bet that they really are just doing this for the Isk and because "It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge." IDK why, but in my head, that quoted sentence sounded like it came from the mouth of Corky. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4647	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:51:00 - [326] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Nobody works for free and everyman had his price. I can recruit a hundred talented players, build them up hard and carefully not burn them out. Raise taxes to fund an offensive against some one in the blue donut, fight, lose and grind; repeating the process. But nobody works for free: be it emotional investment into their corp and character, be it the logistical aspects of funding a war and grinding the isk or wanting a paycheck for fighting and dying again and again. These practices are not eternally sustainable. Humans are not robots. Attrition takes a toll. The better supplied wins. It's economic warfare at it's purest and when you're looking up that mountain you have to fight on, it's hard to give a siht because the costs are too high for such marginal returns. .. if you ever make them. Hence why the donut thrives unmolested. Now let's say there are few corps that are hardened, battle ready and with enough morale to make a war. Wtf is going to stop you or Kane or fiddlestix from coming along and buying out the opposition? You have a huge cash reserve and a large concentration of rich players in case of an emergency. Every man has his price. 3XXXD learned that the hard way in the last concerted effort against proto-DNS. Not too many are willing to make those mistakes again without the rewards looking pretty damn good. The broken system has won SoTa and since DNS assembled in top of it, not too many look favorably on it You know it. We know it. Maybe not all the pubbies know it, but that's how it is. Trying to rouse opposition from guys who understand economics of scale and wars of attrition are quite possibly the last target audience you should seek. Granted you are a master troll and spin doctor, the silence from in game should really resonate the truth. DNS had won DUST 1.0. We're waiting for some sort of change to make the trouble with fighting fir again. Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now. I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in. That's, all. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1949	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:51:00 - [327] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this ** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I *** could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ***** sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. So if we let you win so we can sit back and get a laugh at you being "alone and miserable at the top" have we really let you win? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4647	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:53:00 - [328] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this ** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I *** could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ***** sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. So if we let you win so we can sit back and get a laugh at you being "alone and miserable at the top" have we really let you win? Sorry, don't understand your comment. Feel free to rephrase it to suit what I am speaking about. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1949	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:57:00 - [329] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ***** could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ***** sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. So if we let you win so we can sit back and get a laugh at you being "alone and miserable at the top" have we really let you win? Sorry, don't understand your comment. Feel free to rephrase it to suit what I am speaking about. Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 573	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:00:00 - [330] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now. I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in. That's, all. What you do is spewing shit and puffing out your feathers playing the boss cock. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. TOLD514

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4651	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:00:00 - [331] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you? Yea, but I'm not asking you to attack, so why do I care? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7453	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:00:00 - [332] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you? We'd just laugh at the fact that people like you are complaining about the ISK being earned in PC, but refuse to do anything about it. I think that means we win. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4651	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:01:00 - [333] - Quote Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now. I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in. That's, all. What you do is spewing ** and puffing out your feathers playing the boss . I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Cool, finally, some fire in someones belly. Bring that to your team and make it strong and come smash my face in when the time comes. Nothing could honestly make me happier right now. DNS, the blue donut, ** this hatred. If I didn't have so many friends in DNS I would be with you guys. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1949	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:01:00 - [334] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you? Yea, but I'm not asking you to attack, so why do I care? Ok, allow me to rephrase that. Do you really win if we do nothing just so we can sit back and laugh at you while you cry because you want us to do something? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4651	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:05:00 - [335] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you? Yea, but I'm not asking you to attack, so why do I care? Ok, allow me to rephrase that. Do you really win if we do nothing just so we can sit back and laugh at you while you cry because you want us to do something? If you do nothing, someone else will. I just want to inspire more someones to keep building more teams. I will get battles, I still do to this day thanks to WTF and OH AWESOME GAMES I, just would like to see more strong teams out there kicking my face in. Especially kicking the cocky DNS faces in. I've been seeing DNS troll you guys, I don't like it either. But I only control HvLP and strongly suggest to NF they do something bout there **** posters. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7453	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:08:00 - [336] - Quote Beeeees wrote: What you do is spewing shit and puffing out your feathers playing the boss cock. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Nothing anyone can do? If everyone decided to tax their members and run MLT/STD/BPO suits for a week, they'd have enough funds to pay for all of the gear and clone packs needed to take on DNS. Raise the tax to 100% and you'd have enough funding for the war before downtime comes. That's a fact. It's not impenetrable either. As WTF and 0.H have showed, it is indeed possible to defeat DNS. You just have to do something other than cry on the forums. That's also been proven as fact. Stop acting as if you don't know this. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4652	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:09:00 - [337] - Quote Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now. I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in. That's, all. What you do is spewing shit and puffing out your feathers playing the boss cock. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Beeee, I want to say I do not like that you hate me, man, I can tell you're a smart guy with potential. Is there nothing I can do beyond stabbing my friends in the back to show you any kind of real sincerity???? n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 651	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:10:00 - [338] - Quote Atiim wrote: Beeeees wrote: What you do is spewing shit and puffing out your feathers playing the boss cock. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Nothing anyone can do? If everyone decided to tax their members and run MLT/STD/BPO suits for a week, they'd have enough funds to pay for all of the gear and clone packs needed to take on DNS. Raise the tax to 100% and you'd have enough funding for the war before downtime comes. That's a fact. It's not impenetrable either. As WTF and 0.H have showed, it is indeed possible to defeat DNS. You just have to do something other than cry on the forums. That's also been proven as fact. I'm willing to bet 30m ISK that you won't smash HvLP's faces in, and eventually fade into irrelevancy. Though I would truly be amazed if anyone in this thread did something other than cry on the forums about us. Re read post #323 of this thread. Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1951	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:11:00 - [339] - Quote Atiim wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you? We'd just laugh at the fact that people like you are complaining about the ISK being earned in PC, but refuse to do anything about it. I think that means we win. Only reason I complain about the Passive Isk Faucet that is PC is because it is guaranteed risk-free Isk, there is nowhere else in New Eden that this exists. There is nothing that compares to it. Moon goo needs to be processed and/or hauled to market to make the Isk from it. This is not so with the Clone Isk from PC. Clones are generated from Ether, fill to a limit and then are sent to Ether leaving Isk in its wake. ^This is my problem with PC, not that DNS or EoN or Who gives 2 fucks this week is controlling ridiculous% of Molden Heath. Attacking DNS or whoever happens to be in charge at the time will not change my gripe. Keep that in mind, my gripe is that it is happening, not who is doing it. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 574	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:19:00 - [340] - Quote Atiim wrote: snip What part of "war of attrition against a foe with unlimited ressources" did you not understand? TOLD514

WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 129	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:29:00 - [341] - Quote I'm gonna cry on the forums AND take DNS districts.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4654	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:34:00 - [342] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: I'm gonna cry on the forums AND take DNS districts. *Mind explodes n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 631	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:38:00 - [343] - Quote Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because SoTa Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4654	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:42:00 - [344] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because SoTa Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
General John Ripper 21066	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:43:00 - [345] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because SoTa Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further. uh oh spaghettios Dust Lotto Challenge :) Twitter: IAmJohnRipper
Hecarim Van Hohen 1247	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:46:00 - [346] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: I'm gonna cry on the forums AND take DNS districts. Mind explodes Everything is better with a .gif "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads.*" -CCP Logibro t¢«
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 133	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:17:00 - [347] - Quote I know what my tags say. What it means to those who aren't me however is likely very different than what it means to me. From what I've read across the last 18 (!!) pages is really just a ton of misplaced emotion, generated from 3 things- 1. Leftover resentment of folks whose corps threw in with what seemed like a good idea on paper to challenge the most dominant PC groups and usurp their spots. Unfortunately, the plan failed both from it being broadcast (loudly) 3 weeks ahead of time allowing those PC corps to ready themselves as well as from those PC corps realizing HOW they were losing ground (which they were) and their defense against it. ( Enter DNS EVE and the creation of DNS alliance DUST) 2. Leftover resentment from the elimination of PFC. Are folks understandably upset? Sure. Was PFC ALWAYS an ARTIFICIAL incubator for corps that had its own "exclusivity structure" which kept Independent or Individual mercs from participating unless they joined a PFC corp, thereby denying them "1/3" of the DUST514 experience? Yes. 3. Leftover resentment about PROTOstomping in Pubs, nevermind that that **** has existed ever since ppl started getting the SP to get PROTOfits. Only now its worse because the non-DNS groups aren't able to do it too as easily as they once did. I guess... Oh, and somebody trollololled somebody else on a videogame forum, so CEOs need to kick those people out, or something like that. TL,DR- The preceding 18 thread pages are for the most part the noisiest meat curtains flapping EVER. The crazy part to me is that there is a winning model to follow for success, the keys to which are in #1, but you'll all have to dry your tears and quit hyperventilating for a moment to figure it out. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 126	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:17:00 - [348] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now. I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in. That's, all. What you do is spewing ** and puffing out your feathers playing the boss . I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Cool, finally, some fire in someones belly. Bring that to your team and make it strong and come smash my face in when the time comes. Nothing could honestly make me happier right now. DNS, the blue donut, this hatred. If I didn't make so much isk** in DNS I would be with you guys. There. Fixed that for ya.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4686	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:25:00 - [349] - Quote emtbraincase wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Beeeees wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now. I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in. That's, all. What you do is spewing ** and puffing out your feathers playing the boss . I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Cool, finally, some fire in someones belly. Bring that to your team and make it strong and come smash my face in when the time comes. Nothing could honestly make me happier right now. DNS, the blue donut, this hatred. If I didn't make so much isk** in DNS I would be with you guys. There. Fixed that for ya. your meta is weak, padawon. The truth is the relationships mean more to me then the ISK. Ask any HvLP guy - I give it away to them like it's candy. I got rich so I could enjoy this game and help those around me enjoy it too, and that's now what I am doing. Work with me or against me, either way, I am now working towards a cause. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1789	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:29:00 - [350] - Quote I hate them because: 1.) They are better players then I 2.) They accomplish "stuff" in this game 3.) They are in PC, and I am not 4.) They are assumably making money in PC, and I am not 5.) They are cool, and I am.... well, no so much on the cool 6.) They have their own threads daily, and I have nothing but a dark rock to hide under while I wait for the next build I hate you all! Double posting like a Kaiser.

RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 767	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:33:00 - [351] - Quote I'm sure riding the wave of taking over Molden Heath was exciting for DNS. You meta'd victory and had enough "A" teams to conquer and enough "B" teams to keep it safe. Well played. Now the fun is gone. It's time to torch the fields. To answer you SoTa. No, no one can conquer Molden Heath, but a large group of players can ruin it. We can pickle that.
Zcynx Rivera S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 26	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:33:00 - [352] - Quote [/quote] ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. [/quote] sensiable? Sense is ***** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the up. [/quote] How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way.[/quote] How about you show me you're worth giving a for and put a team together to sync against my team. Why the do I have to solve YOUR problems? I have been on this side of the fence since last year, working my ass off in PC. You want a free ride? Then *** show me what you got, and maybe I'll help you out more. Growth doesn't need to come from just ISK, tax rates from people willing to work together can pool TONS of money, ask STB and ML!!!!!!!! , guys, I' tired as hell and just want to cuss at people, so forgive me but grow some ***** balls before asking me too.[/quote] I think the endless walls of text and decent language has summed up what your entire alliance is made of. I guess the only place you are missing you so called "step up, or skill" is in your mouth. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, or are you another orphan? LOL
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4686	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:38:00 - [353] - Quote Quote: Zcynx Rivera wrote: ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is ***** doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't *** keep up then sit the down and shut the up. [/quote] How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way.[/quote] How about you show me you're worth giving a for and put a team together to sync against my team. Why the do I have to solve YOUR problems? I have been on this side of the fence since last year, working my ass off in PC. You want a free ride? Then *** show me what you got, and maybe I'll help you out more. Growth doesn't need to come from just ISK, tax rates from people willing to work together can pool TONS of money, ask STB and ML!!!!!!!! , guys, I' tired as hell and just want to cuss at people, so forgive me but grow some ***** balls before asking me too.[/quote] I think the endless walls of text and decent language has summed up what your entire alliance is made of. I guess the only place you are missing you so called "step up, or skill" is in your mouth. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, or are you another orphan? LOL [/quote][/quote] What? Can someone translate this for me? He summed up something without explaining why and expects me to keep up with him. I'm sorry, you must be either new or have down syndrome - it's usually hard to tell around here. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12908	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:51:00 - [354] - Quote By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4686	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:53:00 - [355] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12908	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:56:00 - [356] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4686	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:58:00 - [357] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1954	Posted - 2014.04.30 00:18:00 - [358] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU To think you almost had me convinced that you weren't one of the douches. Why engage an opponent when not in a position of superiority? It is foolishness to allow yourself to be goaded into attacking before the time is right. Especially when watching your adversary throw fits is so damn entertaining. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 654	Posted - 2014.04.30 00:18:00 - [359] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU I feel there's too many lurking in the shadows for you to be entirely correct on that. Stay away from the Senate house Julius, The blackbirds are flying. Beware the ides of May! Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4687	Posted - 2014.04.30 00:22:00 - [360] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other. As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU To think you almost had me convinced that you weren't one of the douches. Why engage an opponent when not in a position of superiority? It is foolishness to allow yourself to be goaded into attacking before the time is right. Especially when watching your adversary throw fits is so damn entertaining. You misconstrued me, I am not playing house with **** posters when I am showing good intentions. You and me, we're cool. This post wasn't meant for you. It's meant for those who aren't contributing anything but tears and more hate. If you're defending these people from me then we might of have an eventual issue, anyways. There is no perspective I could possible view this from that can justify plain, straight up, hate. Especially towards me while I'm almost basically pleading with you guys. I am not a saint. Sorry. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot

Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2244	Posted - 2014.04.30 00:29:00 - [361] - Quote sota....sota, sota sota, first you admit that the community is justified in its animosity towards dns, and then you proceed to bash them for venting that animosity.... isn't that a bit ridiculous? this game makes me sad....
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4689	Posted - 2014.04.30 00:30:00 - [362] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: sota....sota, sota sota, first you admit that the community is justified in its animosity towards dns, and then you proceed to bash them for venting that animosity.... isn't that a bit ridiculous? ... you know what, you're right. That is. I guess I have my own frustrations. I'm sorry. Thank you for pointing this out. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 644	Posted - 2014.04.30 00:57:00 - [363] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because SoTa Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further. I had it, deleted it when my brother got out of the military. I can make a new one tho. What is your username? Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4693	Posted - 2014.04.30 01:37:00 - [364] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because SoTa Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further. I had it, deleted it when my brother got out of the military. I can make a new one tho. What is your username? Sergio Leal from San Antonio n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
P14GU3 The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 646	Posted - 2014.04.30 01:48:00 - [365] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: P14GU3 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because SoTa Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further. I had it, deleted it when my brother got out of the military. I can make a new one tho. What is your username? Sergio Leal from San Antonio Request sent. Plague.dust Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?


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