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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.04.28 00:59:00 -
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Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto.
Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up.
The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 01:44:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto.
Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up.
The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this.
Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble.  DNS scum.
I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't **** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are.
We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be **** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 02:06:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto.
Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up.
The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this.
Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't **** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be **** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. "Trying to do good." "I may want to help"  You can't even commit to pretending to be good. I have no resentment. I am just making sure you DNS blues don't forget that you're the villains.
You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains?
You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands?
And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 03:58:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains?
You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands?
And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you.
Being divided sucks. Half the community thinks DNS is opportunistic cancer scum. The other half thinks DNS is protostomping arrogant douches. I don't see why we all can't just agree that DNS is opportunistic cancerous protostomping arrogant douche scum. Now we can all agree. "Tunnel vision" Only when I'm looking at you guys down in that hole you dug.
You realize your attempt at a smart ass comment actually just admits that I'm right? "Yea, because you guys dug a hole, now I'm too emo to see anywhere else."
Well, thanks I guess?
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 04:02:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:Atiim wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:
DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists.
DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken.
DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by.
DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it.
- I've never run full PRO in a PUB before (except AV). Though I do wish the competition was better.
 - i don't see how popping tanks and running ADV gear 24/7 destroys the NPE.
- Finance is the only attrition DNS plays by? So we gained over 90% of MH by flaunting our ISK to wear down our enemies?
- What shady tactics? Is attacking a district and actually fighting considered shady nowadays?
Man. I wish I could be a full protostomping, NPE destroying, shady dude who wins by smacking their opponents around with ISK; just like the peps in DNS.  Oh please, tell me how you're so much better than the rest of your alliance. I hate that you guys aren't getting payed like the big three in DNS. Sorry. Have fun under the thumb scum.
Are you enjoying being under our thumb, scrub? HvLP > ML. We're not even a month old and we'd hand you your guys's booty 10 out of 10.
Git gud before you start talking crap, especially to my members.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 04:16:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you)
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 04:34:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people 
I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now.
As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off.
Who are these DNS **** posters anyways?
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 05:52:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? See, i respect you as a hyper-troll and hella good player, but i just cannt take you at your word yet on the help thing. There are so many things you could do: Push for longer reinforcement windows, make clone packs larger (this i guess is the only thing kane brought to CCP :( ) Tune down auto-isk'ing or just straight make it a manual system. Crack the donut. Start it over, try a conquest from after shattering the isk-overlords Not boost in FW matches; looking at you penlongis. Not sperg everytime someone posts an anti-DNS thread, keep it calm, throw some lulz at someone for good measure (Atiim is really good at this) Help us SoTaPoP Kenobi, you're our last hope. Seriously need more beer. :( *EDIT: your signature, funniest one i've seen today
The person I vote for on CPM will be a person who will be pushing for larger clone packs, more clone pack options, a better way for NPE to integrate into PC to effect it in some small way to larger corps advantage, replace auto-isk with manual isk, and a system where corps can use a cool down to reinforce a single district with clones.
As for cracking the donut... It's not happening, but it's not going to last either. I'm praying fanfest changes something so we aren't forced to do it ourselves. But something WILL change.
Hope is for those who care for this game and want to try to be something and do something. It is not for those who do not have that fire in your belly.
Community - I say this to you. WORK TOGETHER. 3 mass attacks have already been tried, and they didn't do a single thing. They didn't even leave the red line. There is a ton of talent in this game that can face us, a ton. Stop looking at someones KDR, start looking at how they engage a fight. Do they jump? How did they strafe? When they strafe do there shots start missing? Find the talent - it's there, they don't have squads so they do ***** in pubs - HELP THEM!!!!!!
The ISK made from taxes alone in corps like Faction Warfare Army, Molon Labe, and Sver True Blood makes them as much money as if holding several planets. There are avenues of ISK to use - you are not helpless!
If you need inspiration, come, talk to me, I will inspire you to hate me or love me, but I will get you to do something.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 06:00:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways? well for starters take anyone with the dns tag from this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=157761&find=unreadthen read some of their forum history.... is this ok with you? is this the dns attitude?
That's a general Vet attitude from closed beta players who've invested a lot in this game, not a DNS thing.
and no, it's not okay, read the last page in that thread.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 09:53:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it.
As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon.
Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior.
I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment.
If you want to distance yourself there is only one way.
Pretend? The best players in this game 'pretend' to be bad assess?
You really just want to just get crapped on. I don't care what happens from this point on, Molon Lobe won't ever be land owners again. I do not play nice to fags who cry and do nothing but shout tears in everyones faces without doing anything in game to show they're any different.
You're a scrub, will always be a scrub, and I have no reason to defend DNS against trash like you. You can take this as a declaration of war between HvLP and Molon Lube.
Not that it matters since you guys will likely never try for PC again, you've learned your place.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:58:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:DNS shut out players from 1/3 of the game. Lumped almost all of the major competition together and pretended to be badasses for doing it.
As to not getting shut out of the ISK farm the corps on the fence jumped on the bandwagon.
Then after seeing that the backlash from the community was huge Kain Spero and his lackeys start a PR campaign to try to get everyone to believe that it was done in noble pursuit. Try to get a clown in a mask elected, and try to justify their piglet behavior.
I don't see how SoTa, whom obviously is ashamed, cannot grow extremely tired of spouting the same rhetoric as to why DNS did what they did to the PC environment.
If you want to distance yourself there is only one way.
Pretend? The best players in this game 'pretend' to be bad assess? You really just want to just get crapped on. I don't care what happens from this point on, Molon Lobe won't ever be land owners again. I do not play nice to fags who cry and do nothing but shout tears in everyones faces without doing anything in game to show they're any different. You're a scrub, will always be a scrub, and I have no reason to defend DNS against trash like you. You can take this as a declaration of war between HvLP and Molon Lube. Not that it matters since you guys will likely never try for PC again, you've learned your place. You know I'm right. You can be mad at me all you want it doesn't change that fact. I never cried about it, , I called DNS what it was. A financed coup and player created cancer. The fact that you have no legs to stand on when defending it proves my point. You can lash out all you want, it won't bring your honor back.
You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it?
Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:15:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
You post rant after rant calling DNS scum and you want to claim that isn't you crying over it?
Damn, man, maybe I should take back what I said earlier. It feels like I just declared bad intents towards a corp because there village idiot escaped his leash and started posting. LOL
You can't defend it, you can't argue against me because I'm right, so this is what's left. Pathetic attempts at insults. I figured you'd be better at it than that. You disappoint. 
I think we'll let the like counts be the judge of bad troll or not, scrub.
And I'm not defending anything from you. From everyone else, yes, but your opinion is about as valuable as the turd I left behind at your moms place last night.
Oh, yea, I busted out a mom joke. Shyt got real~
lol
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
I think we'll let the like counts be the judge of bad troll or not, scrub.
With all those other alts, I think your beating GJR in likes 
He's still got a ways to go actually.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:46:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:Global Enforcer wrote:Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost.
You could get the BPO Templars for the same price and stats, actually, better stats.
So, how is his argument invalid, again?
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:52:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:emtbraincase wrote:Global Enforcer wrote:Guys I don't get why ppl hate on a alliance as a whole, the hate should be directed to a player not a whole alliance because you feel your getting stomped. People like myself run dren bpos and still do great so there's hope for all you blue berries And that dren BPO (which I have) cost $99 usd to you and is unavailable anymore, so that is a bad argument. Those who couldn't get it are the ones who could use the help most, and the only ones you actually hurt most (other than the new playerbase, which never stay more than 1-2 matches against your corps). Those dren BPO's are std upgraded variants, not MLT variants. The only BPO's any for awhile could get are the Frontline fits, a far cry from what your full-BPO suit actually cost. You could get the BPO Templars for the same price and stats, actually, better stats. So, how is his argument invalid, again? So where on the marketplace can I buy these? Only ones I've seen are sold by individuals I wouldn't trust with a pile of *****, let alone any of my information/isk/aur.
That's your choice. I bought mine through Tradehub, 100% trust worthy.
do a topic search on this forum "Tradehub" one word, and put in an order.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.29 00:12:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:[quote=SoTa PoP]
Again, this isn't something that is done through the marketplace. This is done in the meta-game. I have no reason to trust them, and I may not be the only one. So there is no place for someone to buy a BPO from the Dust Marketplace, which is what I said. I saw CCP state they are stopping the sale of BPO's on the marketplace, I bought mine then. So as far as the average person in the game would know, that is it. No more BPO's unless you trust this outside entity. That is all the argument intended. If he runs equivalent and pays for it, then he is at the same spot as a relatively newish player.
I see your point now, it is pretty crappy the items aren't even listed in the market to be viewed for wether or not it's a good purchase to even go seek it out.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.29 00:43:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:waters104 wrote:Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz
When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing
right, all of a sudden EoN aren't proto stompers anymore
This is BS - I was a part of TP when FEC started there massive push, it was nothing but tears about EoN proto stomping everyone because of how many corps were constantly fielding full squads from EoN who could afford FOTM protos constantly. People going as far to call them all no skilled FOTM scrubs who got there millions by abusing every glitch and broken mechanic they could find.
If you believe anyone here has more knowledge of the forums goings, make them step up, because when it comes to this place few have longer neck beards then me. And I am going to start fixing all the lies you guys keep coming up with.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:06:00 -
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Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:waters104 wrote:Are yall forgetting about the eon alliance lolz
When they stomped they did it with militia/ advanced....they stomped with skill not gear....and the game still prospered while they were here.....but you guys...the games dieing Really?Does that look like Militia to you? Most players in DNS are skilled. Most. I asume your talking about the tanker but your being ignorant...look at the kiil feed...it was mostly ALL duvolles and Geks on BOTH SIDES...try again And SoTa i might have ignored the forums but i was here when they were around and its was funny going toe to toe with them in militia gear...yes they stomped me...yes i got them sometimes...yes id see i tanker here and there from them but it was still fun fighting them.....if you lose to a team using same stuff as you then you know who is better.....the only proto i saw was ARs and SMGs
I miss them too, it was the good old days when **** talking was done between two groups willing to go at it over nothing, then laugh there asses off after it's all done.
But, we'll get those times back. Skill may mean something again, once CCP realizes how to stop hammering nerfs and buffs and learn to tweak. Poor MD been adjusted how many times? Lol
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:37:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS.
OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC.
It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS.
The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max.
The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter.
It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say.
What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me.
It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it.
I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance.
You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be.
Quick question:
So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?'
That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land!
should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC?
What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.-
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:55:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS.
OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC.
It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS.
The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max.
The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter.
It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say.
What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me.
It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it.
I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance.
You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- So you think the current state of PC is good? PC is stagnant and dead. New players will not get to see what it could be, only DNS and their magnificent self gratification machine. No one is impressed with it . Coordinating attacks on 2 corps super exciting? You can't even imagine how lame you sound trying to make it sound like a legitimate goal. It's stale and it stinks. The scum rises to the top. Congrats. Now knock it off so we can get back to having fun. I also think it's super cute that you DNS flag waving lunatics think you can get under my skin. You won't. Not on your best day. You guys can keep trying to justify why you're scared to stop it.
Didn't answer my question, you avoided it. Care to try again without the rant and tears?
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Quick question:
So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?'
The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise.And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fu ck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shi tters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable.
The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that....
Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta.
And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC.
Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands.
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Darken-Sol wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Quick question:
So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?'
The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise.And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fu ck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shi tters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable.
The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. did DNS really acomplish anything besides peace?
Guys, honestly **** DNS. I mean them no offense, but they're just our support. Look at each corp individually - are you saying they've done nothing to earn there spots? Each corp is legit, even if you guys want to spit on them for not being good as the 'top 3 dogs'
Give credit where it's due - DNS didn't do crap. NF, NS, AE, DDB, CAP, they are the ones who individually deserves the respect they've fought for all this time. It's been a year plus guys, don't let the action of the past month dictate everything a corp has achieved.
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Quick question:
So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?'
The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise.And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fu ck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shi tters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable.
The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. saying those things when its an earned victory in a balanced fight, or when someone is QQing about horrendously stupid shite...yeah ... I agree those things have been said since beta and with good reason.... but dns is full of braggarts who didn't earn the right to wield those words. and your right change is needed, and those ideas are a start, but don't pretend to be noble in sending this message to ccp...dns did it for selfish reasons and the way they treat people outside the blue donut is proof of this. the trash your alliance spews in the forums (not all of you, but enough of you with no clarification from dns that this isn't the general opinion you all share) is proof of this. I was part of the beginning of DNS rise to power.... my old corp was one of its victims.... how poorly you treated us... I am proof of this. yes its true dns built a community... but you destroyed one to do it.
Pretend to be noble? Stop trying to crap on me please, I am not noble. I will **** YOU HARD FOR ******* WITH ME. But when you're not ******* with me, I'm a caring guy who loves this game. I do want to help, but I am not your solution. You are your own solution. CCP isn't going to reset MH or the ISK - and when new territories open up are you going to roll over when DNS shows up?
Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU!
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Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU!
You know full well its logistically impossible. This will never happen, this isnt EVE where there is an actual community. And there can be no matchmaking when there are 20% new people and 80% vets in pubs. Get your head out of your ass, you are just as much a part of the problem as CCPs inability to fix this sh it.
Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE????
Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it.
There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate.
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Only person forcing people to read garbage posts is you. Please, spare the forums of any further IQ loss and just stop posting. It's starting to feel like you're intentionally trying to make me farm likes. I've got plenty already, thanks.
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Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE????
Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it.
There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate.
It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside.
I never said anything about funding, did I? I said, recruit talent, and let it help you. How long do you think it takes an intelligent person to figure out Dust strategies? How much effort do you think it takes for 16 players to properly coordinate to be effective?
You, are, a, failure. If you want to give up, then leave, get the **** out of the forums too, we don't need your negativity swallowing **** to even further negative direction. What we need are people who can rise up, find talent, and bring it together to strengthen the corps in this game to add more strong teams to prevent a donut from happening again.
All you ******* see from my post is whatever the **** you want. Seriously, just leave the forums if this is all your worth.
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D legendary hero wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE????
Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it.
There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate.
It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. 
sensiable? Sense is ******* doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type.
You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't ******* keep up then sit the **** down and shut the **** up.
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emtbraincase wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE????
Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it.
There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate.
It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. I never said anything about funding, did I? I said, recruit talent, and let it help you. How long do you think it takes an intelligent person to figure out Dust strategies? How much effort do you think it takes for 16 players to properly coordinate to be effective? You, are, a, failure. If you want to give up, then leave, get the **** out of the forums too, we don't need your negativity swallowing **** to even further negative direction. What we need are people who can rise up, find talent, and bring it together to strengthen the corps in this game to add more strong teams to prevent a donut from happening again. All you ******* see from my post is whatever the **** you want. Seriously, just leave the forums if this is all your worth. That already happened. Then they ALL joined DNS to take part in the isk printing.
Bullshit. Since starting HvLP I now have unknowns being pulled into ERA/FA/AE matches. There is skill out there, I am finding out, and I am building an ANIME EMPIRE with it, because I am not a beaten down piece of trash.
HULK THE **** UP GUYS. When CCP opens more land - you going to let us have that too? Enjoy being under my foot while I keep recruiting more and more talent from pub games, because that's all I'm really doing, and it's bringing me talent and new friends left and ******* right.
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emtbraincase wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE????
Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it.
There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate.
It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is ******* doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't ******* keep up then sit the **** down and shut the **** up. How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way.
How about you show me you're worth giving a **** for and put a team together to sync against my team. Why the **** do I have to solve YOUR problems? I have been on this side of the fence since last year, working my ass off in PC. You want a free ride? Then ******* show me what you got, and maybe I'll help you out more. Growth doesn't need to come from just ISK, tax rates from people willing to work together can pool TONS of money, ask STB and ML!!!!!!!!
****, guys, I' tired as hell and just want to cuss at people, so forgive me but grow some ******* balls before asking me too.
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Reign Omega wrote:Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this **** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose.
Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in.
Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ******* could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ******* sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!!
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Beeeees wrote:Lo and behold, the ivory tower philosopher-¦s view on the world!
You have no Idea what the **** you are talking about, listening to you is like listening to a 16by/o upper-middle class suburban kid complaining about all the poor people not being rich.
Bullshit, you're the scrub whose never made it in game, where as my newest corp could crush yours in seconds, using guys who are not from Negative-Feedback or Renegade Alliance.
That's your position, that's your weakness, that's you accepting defeat and my shoes up your ass.
Stop it, get a fire in your belly, grow your teams, and hulk the **** up.
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this **** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ******* could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ******* sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't?
Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would.
I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you.
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Nobody works for free and everyman had his price.
I can recruit a hundred talented players, build them up hard and carefully not burn them out. Raise taxes to fund an offensive against some one in the blue donut, fight, lose and grind; repeating the process.
But nobody works for free: be it emotional investment into their corp and character, be it the logistical aspects of funding a war and grinding the isk or wanting a paycheck for fighting and dying again and again. These practices are not eternally sustainable. Humans are not robots. Attrition takes a toll.
The better supplied wins.
It's economic warfare at it's purest and when you're looking up that mountain you have to fight on, it's hard to give a siht because the costs are too high for such marginal returns. .. if you ever make them.
Hence why the donut thrives unmolested.
Now let's say there are few corps that are hardened, battle ready and with enough morale to make a war.
Wtf is going to stop you or Kane or fiddlestix from coming along and buying out the opposition? You have a huge cash reserve and a large concentration of rich players in case of an emergency.
Every man has his price.
3XXXD learned that the hard way in the last concerted effort against proto-DNS.
Not too many are willing to make those mistakes again without the rewards looking pretty damn good.
The broken system has won SoTa and since DNS assembled in top of it, not too many look favorably on it
You know it. We know it. Maybe not all the pubbies know it, but that's how it is.
Trying to rouse opposition from guys who understand economics of scale and wars of attrition are quite possibly the last target audience you should seek.
Granted you are a master troll and spin doctor, the silence from in game should really resonate the truth.
DNS had won DUST 1.0.
We're waiting for some sort of change to make the trouble with fighting fir again.
Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now.
I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in.
That's, all.
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this **** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ******* could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ******* sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. So if we let you win so we can sit back and get a laugh at you being "alone and miserable at the top" have we really let you win?
Sorry, don't understand your comment. Feel free to rephrase it to suit what I am speaking about.
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you?
Yea, but I'm not asking you to attack, so why do I care?
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:01:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now.
I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in.
That's, all.
What you do is spewing **** and puffing out your feathers playing the boss ****. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that.
Cool, finally, some fire in someones belly. Bring that to your team and make it strong and come smash my face in when the time comes. Nothing could honestly make me happier right now.
**** DNS, **** the blue donut, **** this hatred. If I didn't have so many friends in DNS I would be with you guys.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:05:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you?
Yea, but I'm not asking you to attack, so why do I care? Ok, allow me to rephrase that. Do you really win if we do nothing just so we can sit back and laugh at you while you cry because you want us to do something?
If you do nothing, someone else will. I just want to inspire more someones to keep building more teams. I will get battles, I still do to this day thanks to WTF and OH *AWESOME GAMES*
I, just would like to see more strong teams out there kicking my face in. Especially kicking the cocky DNS faces in. I've been seeing DNS troll you guys, I don't like it either. But I only control HvLP and strongly suggest to NF they do something bout there **** posters.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:09:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now.
I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in.
That's, all.
What you do is spewing sh it and puffing out your feathers playing the boss co ck. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that.
Beeee, I want to say I do not like that you hate me, man, I can tell you're a smart guy with potential. Is there nothing I can do beyond stabbing my friends in the back to show you any kind of real sincerity????
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:34:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:I'm gonna cry on the forums AND take DNS districts.
*Mind explodes
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:42:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because
SoTa
Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend
Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:25:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
Thank you for this post, it's a light in darkness for me right now.
I am not asking you guys to mass attack us though, that's not the point. I am asking you guys to get ready for when the time comes where DNS splinters, or CCP opens the door to new mechanics changing PC - you will be ready to smash our faces in.
That's, all.
What you do is spewing **** and puffing out your feathers playing the boss ****. I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS. Stop acting like you dont know that. Cool, finally, some fire in someones belly. Bring that to your team and make it strong and come smash my face in when the time comes. Nothing could honestly make me happier right now. **** DNS, **** the blue donut, **** this hatred. If I didn't make so much isk in DNS I would be with you guys. There. Fixed that for ya.
your meta is weak, padawon. The truth is the relationships mean more to me then the ISK. Ask any HvLP guy - I give it away to them like it's candy.
I got rich so I could enjoy this game and help those around me enjoy it too, and that's now what I am doing. Work with me or against me, either way, I am now working towards a cause.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:38:00 -
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Quote:^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread.
sensiable? Sense is ******* doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type.
You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't ******* keep up then sit the **** down and shut the **** up. [/quote]
How about you show how badass you are by splintering off and taking over MH with just your corp if it is that easy. You actually have a large portion we don't have to make it feasible. But that would require you to put forth the effort you believe others should do so I doubt you thought of it that way.[/quote]
How about you show me you're worth giving a **** for and put a team together to sync against my team. Why the **** do I have to solve YOUR problems? I have been on this side of the fence since last year, working my ass off in PC. You want a free ride? Then ******* show me what you got, and maybe I'll help you out more. Growth doesn't need to come from just ISK, tax rates from people willing to work together can pool TONS of money, ask STB and ML!!!!!!!!
****, guys, I' tired as hell and just want to cuss at people, so forgive me but grow some ******* balls before asking me too.[/quote]
I think the endless walls of text and decent language has summed up what your entire alliance is made of. I guess the only place you are missing you so called "step up, or skill" is in your mouth. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, or are you another orphan? LOL
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What?
Can someone translate this for me? He summed up something without explaining why and expects me to keep up with him.
I'm sorry, you must be either new or have down syndrome - it's usually hard to tell around here.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other.
As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread.
No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O
Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:58:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other.
As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand.
They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with.
Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on?
HTFU
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:22:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other.
As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU To think you almost had me convinced that you weren't one of the douches. Why engage an opponent when not in a position of superiority? It is foolishness to allow yourself to be goaded into attacking before the time is right. Especially when watching your adversary throw fits is so damn entertaining.
You misconstrued me, I am not playing house with **** posters when I am showing good intentions.
You and me, we're cool. This post wasn't meant for you. It's meant for those who aren't contributing anything but tears and more hate.
If you're defending these people from me then we might of have an eventual issue, anyways. There is no perspective I could possible view this from that can justify plain, straight up, hate. Especially towards me while I'm almost basically pleading with you guys.
I am not a saint. Sorry.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:30:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:sota....sota, sota sota,
first you admit that the community is justified in its animosity towards dns, and then you proceed to bash them for venting that animosity....
isn't that a bit ridiculous?
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you know what, you're right.
That is.
I guess I have my own frustrations. I'm sorry. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:37:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Was wondering how this thread got so long, then I saw because
SoTa
Might hit you up to do some que-syncs against HvLP this weekend
Do you have Skype? I would like to talk to you further. I had it, deleted it when my brother got out of the military. I can make a new one tho. What is your username?
Sergio Leal from San Antonio
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