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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:16:00 -
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I posted this in the War Room....
I was talking to Sota about this on Skype. There is hatred of those on top, then there is what is going on now.
I dislike the donut because it concentrates too much of the game's talent in one place. It's just simply unhealthy for the game. The problem for DNS is that so little of the community has ever participated in PC. They just read the QQ on the forums and what they hear in squads. Over time that has lead many to believe that AE and others cheat to win. Glitches and Exploiters. This is a problem for DNS and it's a problem for generating interest in PC.
I don't think the general community understands the amount of preparation and commitment it takes from individuals/corps to become beast mode in PC. For the community to think that the top players have just figured out a way to cheat and have now just resorted to farming ISK isn't good.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:34:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Emperor1349 wrote:
I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them.
Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro?
*complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace* Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence
Small difference in the two, but we are guilty of that. At the time it was more about holding the territory and a flow of ISK until mechanics were changed and participation from the community increased. But participation only decreased.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:Another "why the hate for DNS" thread? Were there not enough of these on the War Room? I swear DNS players like talking about themselves which is yet just another reason to hate DNS.  I haven't noticed a thread like this in the War Room. Though how many people who hate DNS post in the War Room?
There's only like 7 people that post in the war room that aren't in DNS
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:49:00 -
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Cogadh Draco wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Arirana wrote:Emperor1349 wrote:
I'm sure its because instead of "dominating" PC the corps within DNS blued up with each other to play iskfarm514. Seriously **** you guys, not the alliance or the corps within, the individual mercs, grow a pair and quit farming isk. With your m/kb hooked up with XMI so you have auto aim like a ds3 on a mouse. Get out of here with this crap you sound like Metallica crying about losing fans after they sued them.
Just the opinion of a troll, I haven't played dust in weeks so my comments are invalid. Why you crying bro?
*complains about isk farm, his corp was one of the first to lock up so they could farm in peace* Sometimes you gotta stop pointing fingers and question your own innocence Small difference in the two, but we are guilty of that. At the time it was more about holding the territory and a flow of ISK until mechanics were changed and participation from the community increased. But participation only decreased. Well now that it's prettymuch pub matches left(if you don't wanna rick your isk in PCs), it's really boring... Not mentioning the REPETITION OF THE SAME F%#&ING MAPS OVER AND OVER!!!
The mechanics of PC are such that the elite players would have to show restraint in order for the community to catch up. The people that have dominated PC from the beginning were people that were long time beta players that had the luxury of corporation battles for months before PC ever hit.
I've said it a million times, but releasing PC without another form of team deploy was an epic mistake. With the repetitions that the elite players have had since PC was released it's likely to take a year or more for any real competition to show itself from players that don't already have PC experience EVEN if they were to release another form of team deploy during tonight's downtime.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:02:00 -
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It'll sort itself out. There's zero chance that DNS as it currently stands will hold up.
I would have lost ISK that it would stay intact this long. If not for FF I don't believe it would have. With them together in DNS or apart it really doesn't change much for 99% of Dust. Outside of that alliance there is a grand total of two corps capable of defending districts.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.29 04:12:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS.
OH and WTF have my utmost respect for staying in PC.
It's not CCP holding PC ransom. It's DNS.
The system had a flaw (what if we decided to all be on the same side?) and DNS exploited it to the max.
The protostomping doesn't matter. The ISK gains don't matter. The arrogance and gloating don't matter.
It's that a third of the game is gone because DNS wants it that way. For ego maybe, I can't say.
What you should come away with is that the community looks down on DNS. I've spoken to DNS players that look down on it, but out of fear of being ostracized from their corps they refuse speaking against it. That sounds like absolute fun to me.
It's bad for the community, it's bad for the game, and it's bad for the mercs enforcing it.
I would hate knowing that everyone outside of my alliance disliked me because of the nefarious dealings of the leadership in my alliance.
You talk about losing friends by leaving, but you're losing the entire community. DNS is a coffin with scum carved across the top. It's not a good place to be. Quick question: So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?' That's absurd, what am I building towards if not conquest? Be a merc? I get called out on that too! "It's wrong for corps to use merc, use there own guys!" Now it's wrong for me to hold too much land! should I stop using BPO's in pubs too because it's unfair that I'm making even more ISK on top of PC? What will you cry about next? That my SP is carrying me?? -.- So you think the current state of PC is good? PC is stagnant and dead. New players will not get to see what it could be, only DNS and their magnificent self gratification machine. No one is impressed with it . Coordinating attacks on 2 corps super exciting? You can't even imagine how lame you sound trying to make it sound like a legitimate goal. It's stale and it stinks. The scum rises to the top. Congrats. Now knock it off so we can get back to having fun. I also think it's super cute that you DNS flag waving lunatics think you can get under my skin. You won't. Not on your best day. You guys can keep trying to justify why you're scared to stop it. So I guess when Molon was on the map, you know, locking a good 10-maybe 15% of the map (numbers may be off, but for a while when you owned land, you had a good number of districts), that didn't make PC stagnant? I guess when your big daddy STB paid off Eon to not attack, then paid off AE when it was in power to not attack, PC must've been fun and full of vibrant faces then. And I guess the multiple times you called in FA while in TSO's to help deal with RA forces, that didn't kill PC either. Geez, Molon seems to be hellbent on trying to tear down DNS rep, but in reality, they're no better, they killed PC by locking before what I call "The Locker Wars", and now that they're off the map, they're trying to play martyr and look like the victim. DNS certainly did kill PC, but Molon certainly did it long before we did.
I hear you, but if you don't see the difference between what DNS stands for in terms of the health of any game and locking 10 districts then I'm not sure what to tell you. I can assure you that we don't feel like victims. Nowhere do we state that we deserve a spot on the PC table handed to us. I don't think anyone QQing about DNS wants anything handed to them, but the concentration of talent in PC is strangling the air out of any expansion outside of those who currently reside in DNS. The situation in PC is bad if you guys are all in an alliance or not. Either way it's a couple hundred of the same dudes duking it out.
I guess there just happens to be many players in my corp that see something threatening the longevity of a game that they enjoy. Whether that's rational or not, it appears from all these threads that these harsh opinion's of many within my corp are shared by a staggering amount of people not associated with ML.
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