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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.28 04:30:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you)
But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends?
Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off?
Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him?
Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist?
If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all?
Why am I out of beer?
And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa?
the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people
The forums are more reliable than my spais :(
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
619
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Posted - 2014.04.28 04:45:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways?
See, i respect you as a hyper-troll and hella good player, but i just cannt take you at your word yet on the help thing.
There are so many things you could do:
Push for longer reinforcement windows, make clone packs larger (this i guess is the only thing kane brought to CCP :( ) Tune down auto-isk'ing or just straight make it a manual system.
Crack the donut. Start it over, try a conquest from after shattering the isk-overlords
Not boost in FW matches; looking at you penlongis.
Not sperg everytime someone posts an anti-DNS thread, keep it calm, throw some lulz at someone for good measure (Atiim is really good at this)
Help us SoTaPoP Kenobi, you're our last hope.
Seriously need more beer. :(
*EDIT: your signature, funniest one i've seen today
The forums are more reliable than my spais :(
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
648
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:17:00 -
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DNS made Jungian quite the game!
There I said it.
Lulz
Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
648
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:45:00 -
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Nobody works for free and everyman had his price.
I can recruit a hundred talented players, build them up hard and carefully not burn them out. Raise taxes to fund an offensive against some one in the blue donut, fight, lose and grind; repeating the process.
But nobody works for free: be it emotional investment into their corp and character, be it the logistical aspects of funding a war and grinding the isk or wanting a paycheck for fighting and dying again and again. These practices are not eternally sustainable. Humans are not robots. Attrition takes a toll.
The better supplied wins.
It's economic warfare at it's purest and when you're looking up that mountain you have to fight on, it's hard to give a siht because the costs are too high for such marginal returns. .. if you ever make them.
Hence why the donut thrives unmolested.
Now let's say there are few corps that are hardened, battle ready and with enough morale to make a war.
Wtf is going to stop you or Kane or fiddlestix from coming along and buying out the opposition? You have a huge cash reserve and a large concentration of rich players in case of an emergency.
Every man has his price.
3XXXD learned that the hard way in the last concerted effort against proto-DNS.
Not too many are willing to make those mistakes again without the rewards looking pretty damn good.
The broken system has won SoTa and since DNS assembled in top of it, not too many look favorably on it
You know it. We know it. Maybe not all the pubbies know it, but that's how it is.
Trying to rouse opposition from guys who understand economics of scale and wars of attrition are quite possibly the last target audience you should seek.
Granted you are a master troll and spin doctor, the silence from in game should really resonate the truth.
DNS had won DUST 1.0.
We're waiting for some sort of change to make the trouble with fighting fir again.
Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
651
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Beeeees wrote:
What you do is spewing shit and puffing out your feathers playing the boss cock.
I will be there to smash your face in personally once DNS is not an inpenetrable fortress of handholding, however right now, there is nothing anyone can do outside of DNS.
Stop acting like you dont know that.
Nothing anyone can do? If everyone decided to tax their members and run MLT/STD/BPO suits for a week, they'd have enough funds to pay for all of the gear and clone packs needed to take on DNS. Raise the tax to 100% and you'd have enough funding for the war before downtime comes. That's a fact. It's not impenetrable either. As WTF and 0.H have showed, it is indeed possible to defeat DNS. You just have to do something other than cry on the forums. That's also been proven as fact. I'm willing to bet 30m ISK that you won't smash HvLP's faces in, and eventually fade into irrelevancy. Though I would truly be amazed if anyone in this thread did something other than cry on the forums about us.
Re read post #323 of this thread.
Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
654
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:18:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other.
As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU
I feel there's too many lurking in the shadows for you to be entirely correct on that.
Stay away from the Senate house Julius, The blackbirds are flying.
Beware the ides of May!
Variety is already dead; you either proto to fight/stomp or BPO to grind isk. If not, you're lying.
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