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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.28 04:13:00 -
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I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.28 05:57:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I think the hatred comes from 2 places....
1. from new players that they mercilessly stomp
2. from all the gloating they do about it in the forums, not to mention the snide remarks and down talk they do to everyone
two good reasons to hate them....
now if you're in dns and you don't do this, you should start thinking about whether you want to degrade yourself to associating with this sort of scum...
if you choose to, then you may as well be just as guilty of it.
No, they are not. Nobody is scum for playing with the people they enjoy being with. Only people who are scum are the people who take this game too seriously to honestly hate someone over it. But that's just my opinion. (Not directed at you) But what if that person is a driving force behind the ire and rage against your group of friends? Do you tell them to shape up and knock it off? Or laugh as he calls everyone scrubs and tells them they'll never be as gud as him? Where in this game of virtual reality do our real morals cease to exist? If they do cease, did they ever really exist at all? Why am I out of beer? And why are you so bi-polar now SoTa? the good cop/bad cop thing works best with two different people I am not bi-polar, I'm pissed at some of you. I want to help, but some of you I'd rather just troll and smash. Sorry if it comes off wrong. I've got my angel and devil battling inside me right now. As for this friend, I would tell him to knock it off. Who are these DNS **** posters anyways?
well for starters take anyone with the dns tag from this thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=157761&find=unread
then read some of their forum history....
is this ok with you?
is this the dns attitude?
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:59:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Firstly, I am a member of DNS. Let's get it out there.
I am seeing a huge amount of vitriol and hatred directed towards members of DNS on the forums presently, in all sections, often regardless of the topic. There have been intelligent posts which have nothing to do with people's affiliations and yet there are people responding with 'You're a member of DNS, your opinion is invalid' or some variant thereof.
So I have a question. Why? Why is there a need for such hatred?
It is clear that DNS is dominating PC right now. Because of broken mechanics, this provides DNS with vast quantities of ISK. Some trashy posters brag about this. When people such as Kane post suggestions to improve PC, often blatantly in favour of those who would attack DNS (clone pack size increases, for example) these suggestions are dismissed by many because of a blind hatred for DNS.
And then there's a huge amount of hatred for DNS. Apparently because of this. Is that the reason you folks hate DNS? I'd quite like to know.
There are some people in DNS who are inflammatory posters. This is natural - in any large group there are going to be some people who aren't paragons of humanity. Is this a reason to judge everyone in DNS because of it?
So I'd like to hear from you. Why do you hate DNS?
I actually think you're sincere, ( but I will not be surprised if this is a troll post) so I will indulge you...
1. you admit yourself that there are some trashy posters in your alliance.... this makes you all look bad because ....
2. you don't only pub stomp and play favorites with PC, some of the people from reason 1 actually come to the forums to brag about it.
3.while I take into consideration attempting to show ccp how broke their game is, you take it so far to hurt the community and the competition.... when people experience this game for the first time they meet your pub stompers and get turned off from dust, instead of creating some interesting player driven fiction through PC wars you all just allied and made even the meta boring, you suck what life dust has in it out with your blue donut...
I could go on but I think this is some of the worst of it, and in case you are trolling I will reserve the rest of my breath.
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2230
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:44:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question:
So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?'
The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise.And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fu ck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shi tters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers.
I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that....
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2230
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:RemingtonBeaver wrote:A third of the game is locked out to everyone that isn't in DNS.
It's not locked out from anybody. All 240 districts are online and can be attacked by anyone within their respective timers If you are incapable of finding 16 players throughout your entire Corporation and Alliance capable of beating a DNS team; you are not PC ready and you should be thanking us for your eviction. Did you know that if you want a district you have to actually fight and win one over?
lol most of dns didn't even do that for their districts...
quit spreading the BS propaganda....we all see through it...
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2230
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:38:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Quick question:
So is no one allowed to beat everyone else and take everything? Because it will 'kill the game and community?'
The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise.And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fu ck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted. Shi tters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists. And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers. I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands.
saying those things when its an earned victory in a balanced fight, or when someone is QQing about horrendously stupid shite...yeah ... I agree those things have been said since beta and with good reason.... but dns is full of braggarts who didn't earn the right to wield those words.
and your right change is needed, and those ideas are a start, but don't pretend to be noble in sending this message to ccp...dns did it for selfish reasons and the way they treat people outside the blue donut is proof of this.
the trash your alliance spews in the forums (not all of you, but enough of you with no clarification from dns that this isn't the general opinion you all share) is proof of this.
I was part of the beginning of DNS rise to power.... my old corp was one of its victims.... how poorly you treated us... I am proof of this.
yes its true dns built a community... but you destroyed one to do it.
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2238
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:08:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
The game is not fucking ready to support EVE tier predatory thinking. Not technically, not community wise.
And it wont ever be ready unless you put down your ishukone hater blockers and think for a second about the consequences of your actions for the future of this game. You drive away new players by the hundreds, every single day, and when asked if you understand what the fuck you are actually doing you retort with "SUE ME!" or "YOU`RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME" and sumsuch along the lines. Like a broken record, every single one resorts to passive agressive bullshit to save face once confronted.
Shitters like you dont respect skill, and dont want a challenge, plain and simple. Thats why DNS exists.
And I will repeat it once more, just for you: The game in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It is technically incapable. The community in its current state is not ready to support EVE mentality. It has not reached critical mass to allow it to grow or sustain its numbers.
I also hear dns retorts like... "you all are peasants" and "get gud scrub"..... classy shite like that.... Pretty sure everyone has been saying those things since closed beta. And I agree, game is not ready for EvE mentality. Change is needed, and the change that is needed is larger clone packs, easier to attack districts, and a way for numbers to matter in PC. Make this game a REAL WAR. Not this lobby shooter crap. Mechanics that don't allow 80 players joining hands removing thousands. saying those things when its an earned victory in a balanced fight, or when someone is QQing about horrendously stupid shite...yeah ... I agree those things have been said since beta and with good reason.... but dns is full of braggarts who didn't earn the right to wield those words. and your right change is needed, and those ideas are a start, but don't pretend to be noble in sending this message to ccp...dns did it for selfish reasons and the way they treat people outside the blue donut is proof of this. the trash your alliance spews in the forums (not all of you, but enough of you with no clarification from dns that this isn't the general opinion you all share) is proof of this. I was part of the beginning of DNS rise to power.... my old corp was one of its victims.... how poorly you treated us... I am proof of this. yes its true dns built a community... but you destroyed one to do it. Pretend to be noble? Stop trying to crap on me please, I am not noble. I will **** YOU HARD FOR ******* WITH ME. But when you're not ******* with me, I'm a caring guy who loves this game. I do want to help, but I am not your solution. You are your own solution. CCP isn't going to reset MH or the ISK - and when new territories open up are you going to roll over when DNS shows up? Empower yourselves. 75% of this games talent is not in DNS - it's in pubs going negative because they're not in squads vs squads in full proto. GET THEM AND HELP THEM HELP YOU!
all I can say to this post is "TROLL" YOU KNOW FULL WELL THIS IS A BUNCH OF bs AND FRANKLY I'm OFFENDED THAT YOU THINK I'm DUMB ENOUGH TO (woah caps...not retyping sry) eat this shite up....
and for the record I'm not talking about you personally in my posts... when I say "you" I mean DNS....again sry for the caps... but respectfully, ef you for trying to shove this garbage down our throats, a post like yours only further proves what manipulative, selfish soulless monsters you all are.
this game makes me sad....
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2244
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:29:00 -
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sota....sota, sota sota,
first you admit that the community is justified in its animosity towards dns, and then you proceed to bash them for venting that animosity....
isn't that a bit ridiculous?
this game makes me sad....
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