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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:38:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:One of your diplomats telling an outsider that pub matches are called "protos" was a pretty big red flag. Who is said 'diplomat'? Atiim wrote:One legitimate reason, is the ever-so famous Podcast staring DNSBlack. Then you have the $#!posters, such as this guy. A legitimate reason to hate DNSBlack. Frankly, I do as well. But to hate everyone in DNS just because they're in the same alliance? Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening.
If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1937
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:29:00 -
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Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:dns likes tacos Ahh, but do they like being taco stomped?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1937
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:17:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Your Absolut End wrote:Nah HATE is a way to agressive and powerful word, I'm not HATING anything. But reasons for why I dislike DNS ALLIANCE (note that I'm talking bout the alliance not the corp itself) are:
1.They havent CONQUERED anything, they just blued up with all the strongest and weak minded corps and kicked the remaining small rest out. Thats not CONQUERING thats just PROSETYLIZING (remember Age of Empires? Lol) 2.They brag about how they "conquered" MH 3.They say they did it for a good reason, while they just did it for themselves and to gain ISK 4.They still prosetylize the best players from the left over corps so only newer unexperienced players stay. 5.Then they claim that we could attack them with the left over players, which won't work since they got a bigger ISK and more talented player pool 6. The whole DNS-take over damages this game on multiple instances and if you truly can't see this problem please biomass yourself IRL 7.Bragging is always gay, simple fact. 8.Just because a game is exploitable doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it.You can always trick other players if you play Monopoly but it neither brings you or your foes more fun. 9.I can't respect anybody who chooses money over fun in a video game, I think we all agree that this attitue in RL is bad enough, don't we? 10. That whole tournamwnt idea is just stupid as it stands, "lets kill PC, and then give it to the players back, but we gain all the money" (insert smiley which hammers his own head here) 11.Killing the fun not only for others but even for their own members how you can see at multiple posts in the warroom by members of DNSA asking for somebody to attack them 12.Lose Lose situation for all players and just a small ISK wise win for a handful of guys
I still enjoy fighting you guys since its always a good fight, even tho we are mostly getting slaughtered.
This just represent my opinion as a single merc and video game enthusiast, it however does NOT represent my view as a director within STB, neither am I butt hurt for getting kicked out of PC, thats the way PC goes and we've been kicked out multiple times.
Now you can start disrupting this post since you guys are bored because of a lack of game-competition. Who says I can't have both? I love playing with my Corp mates, and PC is always a blast. You can have both, but is murdering puppies not much miore of an EZ mode than a "blast"? I do not disagree with you, though I do have to say that I find it highly amusing to see someone "from" sver complaining about "EZ mode"
It gave me a chuckle.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1937
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:24:00 -
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@Your Absolut End
Yes, brought back memories of the MAG forums and Smoke Grenades.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1938
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:57:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto.
Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up.
The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this.
And yet you run with those that keep everyone down. It reminds me of Donald Sterling....I wanna help all these unfortunate individuals, but dear god don't let me be associated with them. No matter what you say you wanna do, if you are with them, then you will be seen as them. Leave DNS with the isk you have amassed, open the rolls to others and use that isk to keep them going instead of folding. Even the **** party had community outreach programs, doesn't mean they didn't do their best to annihilate an entire group of people from the face of the planet. You will never be taken seriously by me, or many others, as a group out to help others unless you leave DNS. Simple as that. EDIT:lol....even N A Z I is censored. Even then, how can we ever be truly sure that they aren't just meta-ing us all and laughing behind our backs because they're still working together, though no longer publicly?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1938
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:15:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub.
Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. At least you're not denying that DNS does in fact pubstomp.
Though you're not the only ones so that makes it ok right?
Since neonazis perpatrate hate crimes does that mean we all should too?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1938
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Posted - 2014.04.28 19:19:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Duke Noobiam wrote:Because the DNS corps should be competing against each other and fighting it out in PC, not forming an alliance and stomping NEWBS and players that run solo in pub.
Right, because DNS is the only group that pubstomps. At least you're not denying that DNS does in fact pubstomp. Though you're not the only ones so that makes it ok right? Since neonazis perpatrate hate crimes does that mean we all should too? Since multiple groups pub stomp, shouldn't we hate them all equally? I do.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1939
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:20:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Guilt by Association, yes, I know it is a fallacy, this does not prevent it from happening.
If you want to not be painted as guilty, then do not associate with those who are/portray themselves to be. I was never on board for my corp to join DNS in the first place, but I'm here simply because I enjoy the people in my corp (when I play, that is). Although I hate the alliance (aside from RND - they're cool) and what they're doing, there's not many other places I would want to be. So, are you saying that I should be guilty simply because I like to play the game with my friends? No, I am saying that many will find you to be guilty by association.
It is a rather common fallacy.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1939
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Posted - 2014.04.28 22:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:waters104 wrote: What is that suppose to mean * scratches head*
That's basically my exasperation at a random DNS member coming in and undermining the idea that we're not all arrogant douchebags. This only makes me think that you are all arrogant douchebags and that this is only an attempt by you at damage control.
Seriously, I highly doubt that there is anyone on the forums who isn't DNS (or a DNS alt or paid by DNS to give lip service) who doesn't agree with that.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a duck right?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1940
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:17:00 -
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waters104 wrote:Spssh we dont get paid to do lip services lolz its on our own free will to do soo " if we wanted" but most people are just assuming and dont think sooo this is all opinions nothing less... lolz
Well, you're a special one here aren't you?
Why would DNS pay a member of DNS to give lip service?
Derp. I think you should listen to Arkena, though if you choose not to, please by all means, choose not to.....
You'll just feed fuel to the "hater crew".
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1940
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:06:00 -
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@SoTa
Conquest isn't a bad thing. At least it won't be when we have 64 Regions open and available for PC (this isn't counting the 30 WH Regions).
When all we have is 1 Region that is far from being the largest and it is being dominated by a circlejerk of the "most L337" of the community; well, that is simply a massive **** you and cockblock to everyone else and does NOTHING to help the game whatsoever.
Conquest is awesome when framed in the right context, as it stands currently, it is doing fuckall for the the community and the game as a whole.
This is why IMHO, CCP should remove all of the wealth (Asset and Liquid) generated by PC thus far and rework it into something that is the grand thing we all envision it to be rather than just a simple Passive ISK Faucet camped on by the competitive half-wits of the community who are doing little more than the bidding of a select few.
Once it is that grand thing we all envision it to one day be, where Isk is earned only Actively and there are myriad ways in which Corporations of all sizes can get involved, then (and only then) should it be opened to all Regions both in Empire and 0.0 (and WHs too if you ask me).
Holding Molden Heath is no grand achievement to be proud of and aspire to.
Holding all of Angel space is a grand achievement, something to proudly covet and aspire to.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1943
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:22:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping.
And I don't care...
I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design.
And I don't care...
Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired.
People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it.
Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. I find this to be hilarious, as though everyone who ever had any plans for PC planned on bluing up with as many other PC entities as possible and farming Isk.
Did you ever think that not everyone wants to just farm Isk?
Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe people want to have a PC that isn't a stagnant circlejerk?
PC was a failed experiment from day one though CCP has allowed it to run on for long enough that it now threatens the longevity of the game.
Conquest is NOT a bad idea, it is just that right now IS a bad time for it.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1943
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Posted - 2014.04.29 14:42:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Reign Omega wrote:I've found that most of you run organized squads that utilize teamwork and tactics combined with superior gear leading to excessive stomping.
And I don't care...
I love a good fight and have enough isk to not feel the burn of pc money laundering. I learn from most if not all of my losses, and prefer a tight loss over a stomp win. DNS black has an idea in mind, Kain Spero has hard boots on the ground, and a lot of cowardly troops rolled over and played dead in favor of grand design.
And I don't care...
Mercs bickering instead of combining forces and resources are infinitely more amusing in my opinion, like children screaming about what they don't want instead of figuring out what they want, while a few slightly older and bigger kids came in and took the candy. The adults meanwhile are off somewhere getting drunk only bothering to raise an eyebrow when someone is seriously I hired.
People seem to be mad they didn't have the idea, the manpower or the resources to do it.
Tl:dr- haters gonna hate. I find this to be hilarious, as though everyone who ever had any plans for PC planned on bluing up with as many other PC entities as possible and farming Isk. Did you ever think that not everyone wants to just farm Isk? Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe people want to have a PC that isn't a stagnant circlejerk? PC was a failed experiment from day one though CCP has allowed it to run on for long enough that it now threatens the longevity of the game. Conquest is NOT a bad idea, it is just that right now IS a bad time for it. Then stop them if you can, or if you care. Plenty of people seem to be so bothered by it. What's the purpose of pc? To own all the land....Just like the unification of China or Japan who would be content owning a percent if you think you can take it all. Don't be mad you were slow to act. What other poi t than to be the best? Pardon me by this point in the day I'm too drunk to hold a debate lmao We can discuss this when you're not drunk because you are obviously not getting what I am trying to say.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1949
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:32:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Beeeees wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Is this a serious comment? Logistically IMPOSSIBLE TO RECRUIT NEW PEOPLE????
Are you REALLY meaning that? Wow, just wow. You're the single biggest idiot out of every anti-dns poster I have ever seen. Congratulations, someone get this guy a BPO suit with a dunce hat on it.
There is a community here - you're just blinded to anything but hate.
It is logistically impossible to fund a force to battle the blue donut while being outside of it. To supply that force from corp side would require to have a part in PC already. To supply that force from individual pockets would require to grind the everloving **** out of the game. Sure I can scramble say 50 really pissed people, and then start a coordinated offensive. We-¦ll run dry in a week and then what? Grind some more in pubs just to sustain the assault? PC in Dust is a war of attrition. When I got into PC I first realized what that war of attrition means here. We lost hard, we lost on ressources, we lost on time, we lost on manpower. Ultimately we won some battles but we lost the war. Now let me ask you something, how does one suppose to win a war of attrition against someone who has literally unlimited ressources? You are the one who-¦s blind here, and deaf on top of it, if you believe that your turbohugbox is even penetrable from the outside. ^^this is the single most sensible comment i have read in this entire thread. sensiable? Sense is ******* doing something instead of crying. Had no ideas you supported tears over action. Thought you were more of a front soldier type, not the beaten down by a big stick type. You guys seriously make me sick. Dust doesn't need people like you, leave. It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge. If you can't ******* keep up then sit the **** down and shut the **** up. Lol, competitive atmosphere, I didn't know that circlejerking was competitive.
It is the guys like you that should make you sick, you don't even know what the true meaning of competition is. Apparently, you think that getting everyone together in a giant circle singing kumbaya and fellating one another is competition.
If you are actually looking for competition, why does DNS suck up all of the self-proclaimed elite and then sit around complaining that no one is really giving them any competition?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1949
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:39:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this **** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ******* could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ******* sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1949
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:48:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Lol, competitive atmosphere, I didn't know that circlejerking was competitive.
It is the guys like you that should make you sick, you don't even know what the true meaning of competition is. Apparently, you think that getting everyone together in a giant circle singing kumbaya and fellating one another is competition.
If you are actually looking for competition, why does DNS suck up all of the self-proclaimed elite and then sit around complaining that no one is really giving them any competition?
honestly I am guessing the public face of DNS is a cover for some EVE plot. That would be cooler than a bunch of guys just holding hands. Also it would play more to the stories I hear about eve. maybe I am just being wishful in my thinking. If it is really just an isk farm then I pity them. Either way its a sand box way to integrate eve and dust by some members of the community. they were probably sick of waiting for CCP to add more integration. Who really knows tho? IDK, while I will agree that yes that would be cooler, I honestly doubt it is something that complex.
I'd be willing to bet that they really are just doing this for the Isk and because "It's a competitive atmosphere here where people striving to always get the next edge."
IDK why, but in my head, that quoted sentence sounded like it came from the mouth of Corky.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1949
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:51:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Seriously man, I see SO many hard corps talking in here that aren't DNS. wallets notwithstanding, I can fund 4 clone packs myself. I'm in a Corp that has 400 ppl in it. Alts aside, we have 100 ppl who can troop up. If I even cared I would donate 100 mil to shut this **** up. Just work it out if u wanna fight. I'll bring a heavy, tanker, logi, commando all proto. Put me In the ring with them and I'll pay for my own deaths...but for CAT MERC sake, if u wanna do something do it! Who cares if we go broke or don't win? One week coordinated effort at all Times in one channel just hit them hard. I think most ppl are afraid to try and lose. Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in. Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ******* could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ******* sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!! Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. So if we let you win so we can sit back and get a laugh at you being "alone and miserable at the top" have we really let you win?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1949
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:57:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: Don't need to fear loss, if the major corps come together, pooled ISK together to set up all star teams, you could train each other in so many different ways to prepare to break in.
Without any preparation what change will there be? guys, I beg, hate me, I don't mind, just, help the game. I can't. I would If I ******* could, but I've been on this side too long fighting side by side with these guys to back stab them, I can't do it. I am ******* sorry. BUT BUILD YOUR TEAMS UP! ITS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO!!!!!!
Why do that when we can all get a laugh watching you cry because we won't? Cry? yes, I would. I really, really would. I care, guys, I do. If you want to say I care too much, it would be the truth. I am sitting here taking your scrutiny while saying, please strengthen your teams. Look for the talent in pubs, they are there. You can even tax them and prepare for the future. Every moment you wait is another moment someone takes a lead on you. So if we let you win so we can sit back and get a laugh at you being "alone and miserable at the top" have we really let you win? Sorry, don't understand your comment. Feel free to rephrase it to suit what I am speaking about. Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:01:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you?
Yea, but I'm not asking you to attack, so why do I care? Ok, allow me to rephrase that.
Do you really win if we do nothing just so we can sit back and laugh at you while you cry because you want us to do something?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: Do you really win if we let you win by not attacking you so we can laugh at you while you cry because we aren't attacking you?
We'd just laugh at the fact that people like you are complaining about the ISK being earned in PC, but refuse to do anything about it. I think that means we win. Only reason I complain about the Passive Isk Faucet that is PC is because it is guaranteed risk-free Isk, there is nowhere else in New Eden that this exists.
There is nothing that compares to it. Moon goo needs to be processed and/or hauled to market to make the Isk from it.
This is not so with the Clone Isk from PC.
Clones are generated from Ether, fill to a limit and then are sent to Ether leaving Isk in its wake.
^This is my problem with PC, not that DNS or EoN or Who gives 2 fucks this week is controlling ridiculous% of Molden Heath.
Attacking DNS or whoever happens to be in charge at the time will not change my gripe.
Keep that in mind, my gripe is that it is happening, not who is doing it.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.04.30 00:18:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:By this point it is quite apparent that neither side here is willing to actually talk civilly to the other. The only purpose this thread now serves is to continue amplifying the dislike of both sides for the other.
As a result, I am requesting a lock on this thread. No, go away, this is my thread now! >: O Some of these scrubs need a beating. Since they're too chicken to come get it in game I'll give it to 'em here. As enjoyable as reading your posting is, SoTa, there really is no point. Do continue attempting to educate people whilst the thread is open, though. It's one thing to have a legitimate grievance - which some people may do - but it's another to mindlessly complain about something that you don't understand. They don't need to understand anything other then why they were at the bottom of the food chain to begin with. Even after DNS breaks up and AE/NF/NS leave the game opening all of PC and removing all the extra ISK, you posters here talking crap will STILL be the bottom of the food chain. What does it matter whose stepping on you when you'll always be stepped on? HTFU To think you almost had me convinced that you weren't one of the douches.
Why engage an opponent when not in a position of superiority? It is foolishness to allow yourself to be goaded into attacking before the time is right.
Especially when watching your adversary throw fits is so damn entertaining.
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