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Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7365	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:22:00 - [61] - Quote anaboop wrote: Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? If you have to ask that then clearly,you think what you have done is ok. And there is no point saying anyhting ,i could call you anything or say anything and u will say no theres nothing wrong with it So nothing I assume? Can anyone here state what DNS abused? Or is everyone here simply spewing propaganda looking to slander our reputation? Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 695	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:27:00 - [62] - Quote Hate DNS? No. The only thing that irks me about them--as others have pointed out--is the concept of PC being restricted to those with DNS tags, if all (allegedly) goes to plan. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
Ridire Greine 374	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:31:00 - [63] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Hate DNS? No. The only thing that irks me about them--as others have pointed out--is the concept of PC being restricted to those with DNS tags, if all (allegedly) goes to plan. It will never happen. Only reason DNSBlack said something like that is to try show how he has some 'Connection' to DUST to strengthen his CSM campaign. The alliance will disband before something as stupid as that happens. AE, NS, FA, and ERA all in the same alliance? Its never going to last. "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:34:00 - [64] - Quote PC could have been regulated by the player-base, but some idiots always break the toys. DNS grew like a terrible cancer and people like Kane Spero, and Kujo would have you believe that they are trying to cure the cancer they in fact created. Blaming the system rather than admitting their own myopic greed. DNS is a joke. DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. My hats off to Outer Heaven and What the French for preventing your idiocy full fruition. It's brings me great joy to see that even when playing it as dishonorable as you can, DNS is still failing. When the smoke clears. We will remember who the villains are. Maybe your ALTs will have more dignity. Maybe your shell corporations will be ran with some shred of reserve and intelligence. We can pickle that.
TunRa Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 575	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:38:00 - [65] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: Atiim wrote: anaboop wrote: They are to blame, but that doesn't change the fact that you abused it to the shizahouse And what did we abuse exactly? I was abused a little. I WILL ABUSE YOU MORE! Thanks CCP Foxfour MAG vet: SVER
TunRa Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 575	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:39:00 - [66] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: PC could have been regulated by the player-base, but some idiots always break the toys. DNS grew like a terrible cancer and people like Kane Spero, and Kujo would have you believe that they are trying to cure the cancer they in fact created. Blaming the system rather than admitting their own myopic greed. DNS is a joke. DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. My hats off to Outer Heaven and What the French for preventing your idiocy full fruition. It's brings me great joy to see that even when playing it as dishonorable as you can, DNS is still failing. When the smoke clears. We will remember who the villains are. Maybe your ALTs will have more dignity. Maybe your shell corporations will be ran with some shred of reserve and intelligence. Thanks CCP Foxfour MAG vet: SVER
Everything Dies Inner.Hell 696	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:41:00 - [67] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: Everything Dies wrote: Hate DNS? No. The only thing that irks me about them--as others have pointed out--is the concept of PC being restricted to those with DNS tags, if all (allegedly) goes to plan. It will never happen. Only reason DNSBlack said something like that is to try show how he has some 'Connection' to DUST to strengthen his CSM campaign. The alliance will disband before something as stupid as that happens. AE, NS, FA, and ERA all in the same alliance? Its never going to last. Oh, I know that DNS will crumble before too long...someone's going to HAVE to prove that they're top dog eventually. There's quite a few trolls and people with short tempers in the alliance and an implosion is inevitable; my money's on NS finally getting annoyed enough by the "alliance-hopping/hiding behind timers" insults to strike out on their own. Hmm...I'm surprised nobody's started up a contest to pick the first break in the alliance. Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit. Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4342	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:42:00 - [68] - Quote I don't hate them as much as I loath them..... Infinite isk....infinite proto.....infinite fun.....infinite pub stomps..... Man I wich I had access to some of that isk Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:47:00 - [69] - Quote TunRa wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS is a joke. It's okay to be ashamed of yourself. I mean being good at something and paying other people to be good at for you are pretty much the same thing...right? We can pickle that.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 450	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:49:00 - [70] - Quote Rein in Himiko and kick Nyain San out and Most of the forums will stop whinging. Seriously, just destroy Nyain San, the amount of good publicity you'll get for it will vastly trump whatever you gain from keeping them around. Closed Beta Vet since May 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust

SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 4469	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:59:00 - [71] - Quote Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
General John Ripper 20581	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:01:00 - [72] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Teach me how to be elite. Stop liking my posts! Your killing me!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!! :D Twitter: IAmJohnRipper
Taurion Bruni D3ATH CARD 219	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:02:00 - [73] - Quote Ridire Greine wrote: It's funny, a lot of hatred comes from those with no ties or even previous in PC, and for some reason it bothers them. I don't see how the current state of PC bothers for the most part the 'Casual' playerbase. It's not as if the huge amounts of ISK are being shared around the alliance. its not because they dominate pc specifically, but that the isk that they earn goes back into a nearly endless supply of proto suits in public matches. the fact that they take the challenge out of a public match is what unsettles the vast majority of the player community, especially those who cannot use, or afford, the high tier gear to compete in even the most basic form of this game. the PC results not only affect the Pc districts, but the rest of the gameplay as well Pilot // Scout
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:33:00 - [74] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. We can pickle that.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4473	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:44:00 - [75] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Kane Fyea 2635	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:46:00 - [76] - Quote I have no problem with DNS (Although I do think it's shitty that they own pretty much 100% of pc) If I have a problem with you its because of who you are not who you are fighting under.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 736	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:00:00 - [77] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. "Trying to do good." "I may want to help" You can't even commit to pretending to be good. I have no resentment. I am just making sure you DNS blues don't forget that you're the villains. We can pickle that.
Scheneighnay McBob T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 4966	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:05:00 - [78] - Quote I personally don't have a problem with DNS, but I think it would do your public image good to kick out nyan san and beat the **** out of them for exploiting every known exploit. Shouldn't be hard- I've seen them in pubs and would actually consider them to be a mid-tier corp as far as being combat effective. /timetravel Best thread of all time
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4474	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:06:00 - [79] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Not all the corps in DNS are looking to proto stomp you. Some of us want to help you reach proto. Heaven's Lost Property is one such corp, we're open recruitment, allowing even 1mil blue berries to join us and get what experience they can to grow themselves. We may have a strong PC team ourselves and constantly grow our ranks to field more A teamers - but that doesn't mean we won't try to help every corp willing to work with us to improve themselves or any player wanting to grow themselves up. The future of this game will not be in the Vets hands - but the new players. Don't think for a second that many of us in DNS don't realize this. Hence your hilarious PR campaign. The "It was CCP not us." rhetoric is finally over now it's the "We're trying to make nice now" campaign. You guys keep blowing smoke up each others asses and you might start thinking you did something noble. DNS scum. I'm sorry you're upset, but get over it. I may want to help - HvLP may want to help - but that doesn't mean we won't ** all over you for acting like an ass like you currently are. We're still players in this game, and I won't sit here trying to do good and be ** on because you hold resentment that your corp didn't make the blue donut first. "Trying to do good." "I may want to help" You can't even commit to pretending to be good. I have no resentment. I am just making sure you DNS blues don't forget that you're the villains. You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1323	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:14:00 - [80] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Rein in Himiko and kick Nyain San out and Most of the forums will stop whinging. Seriously, just destroy Nyain San, the amount of good publicity you'll get for it will vastly trump whatever you gain from keeping them around. It would go a long way with the community. They are the poop the bacteria forms upon. Three levels below the scum that inhabits New Eden. Crush them

Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 650	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:20:00 - [81] - Quote DNS would be fine if they were an alliance that beat all other alliances and took over PC. But that's not what happened. You guys were a bunch of solid corps that decided hoarding isk was more fun than the game so you all joined together. That's the problem. Go through the top corp leader board. It's all DNs. That's be impressive if you all started off together and reached the top. You guys aren't the best because you're together, you're together because your the best. And that is why people dislike you. Look not everyone can participate in this game at the top level. Be it skill or time, a lot of us can't really expect to be top corps. But I love reading EVE war stories, or follow the pC battle when PC first launched. But there's no epic war in DUST because everyone capable of fighting at that level decided ISK farming was more fun. DNS is what might actually spark me and my friends to drop our silly friendly corp and join a real corp to maybe get into PC. But who am I kidding, I have a job wife and kid, can't exactly participate in PC battles with 4am timers anyway.
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 313	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:41:00 - [82] - Quote attention wh0ring to the highest degree, why did you make this thread?
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 738	Posted - 2014.04.28 02:59:00 - [83] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: You're the one trying to divide the community, yet we're the villains? You got some backwards thinking, there. Do you also put socks on your hands? And yes, "Trying" and "I may want to help" Because I also want to just punch some of you idiots in the face. Can't help it, but at least I'm 'trying', even if it's not good enough for tunnel vision people like you. Being divided sucks. Half the community thinks DNS is opportunistic cancer scum. The other half thinks DNS is protostomping arrogant douches. I don't see why we all can't just agree that DNS is opportunistic cancerous protostomping arrogant douche scum. Now we can all agree. "Tunnel vision" Only when I'm looking at you guys down in that hole you dug. We can pickle that.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2425	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:13:00 - [84] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Well, I don't hate them. But I do hate how they brought more Proto into Pubs and how they exploited PC. To be fair, it's all CCPs fault for allowing PC be exploited in such away and not doing anything to close the trash they made. um top players were using proto in pubs in closed beta. ccp tried a gear tiered system and it failed terribly. Plus with the way isk pay outs are done now the proto players would make a ton of isk and the milita players would make almost nothing. Add to that all the legacy isk top players have from 1 year of pc passive isk farming and you only make things worse. I would like to point out though that I have always made isk running proto in pubs. Good players like to squad with other good players especially those of us that play in PC all the time. You know what to do, how to do it, and do it very well. Just last night I rolled in a squad with a random group of players for dns and we won just about every match even against 2 squads. Well except for the few ambush we played against 2 sqauds including tankspam-San. That was a bit much, but even then it was close matches. I have 3 alts that no one knows me and i play solo with randoms all the time. Even use the squad finder to get groups and the one thing I have learned is that the vast majority of dust players are terrible, dont understand fps tatics and strats, cant shoot and strafe at same time, and are ***** feel entitled to run a 5 kdr. I was recently in a squad with players that went up against a squad from FA on the other side. We had 2 other squads on our side from venzula corp and science for death(sp?) and we almost won. What i saw is the randoms i played with just complained about proto gear, which btw they used too but they didnt want to use them against top players and lose a bunch. What funny is they get wrecked and suddenly its glitchers, cloaky shotgunners, hacks, lag issues, hit detection, and protostompers. It was never, not once, not 1 ***** time that the other team or players were better than they were. I run solo a lot and the NPE and solo players exp is terrible at times. During peak times its fine to run solo becaue you get a lot of all solo player matches. On wed night you get lots of 2 squads a side and solo players will get smashed. Hell one scrub told me if you don't select NA region you dont get put against the good squads as much. Yup same guy who uses proto gear against nobodies and complains when others do. Proto gear isn't the problem its the game modes, small player base, and most importantly player entitlement mentality. o7 Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
Cogadh Draco WarRavens Final Resolution. 19	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:19:00 - [85] - Quote I don't hate DNS or anyone having to do with it, a lot of us shouldn't. However, a lot of people don't like the fact that DNS(mainly Niyan San/Chan) basically removed 1/3 of the multiplayer aspect of DUST514. Now I do agree with a lot of people that CCP needs to expand how many planets one can fight over in PC, but DNS taking it so far as to remove a lot of the competition from the current PC to attempt to motivate CCP to add more planets? This is how it looks like, and quite a few people on voice chat say the same thing in game, but was it really THAT necessary?
Admonishment RisingSuns Dark Taboo 173	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:28:00 - [86] - Quote I hate the DNS....server not responding message. I don't always win 1v1 but... when I don't, I cry for nerfs. Stay nerfing my friends.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2425	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:29:00 - [87] - Quote Cogadh Draco wrote: I don't hate DNS or anyone having to do with it, a lot of us shouldn't. However, a lot of people don't like the fact that DNS(mainly Niyan San/Chan) basically removed 1/3 of the multiplayer aspect of DUST514. Now I do agree with a lot of people that CCP needs to expand how many planets one can fight over in PC, but DNS taking it so far as to remove a lot of the competition from the current PC to attempt to motivate CCP to add more planets? This is how it looks like, and quite a few people on voice chat say the same thing in game, but was it really THAT necessary? You know i was against the 100% ** but what we realized after we started it is that there are very few top corps in dust and that they CAN take what they want. This isn't a product of how good the dns corps are. Its a true reflection of how bad the rest of the corps are. Only teams doing anything against dns are WTF and OH which are both vet players with lots of PC exp and the only reason they are in it is because they are self locking their districts to force clone pack attacks. If you add more districts it wont make the game better because you will get just a herd of average corps that try to farm isk instead of fight. pc 1.0 needs to be dumped 100% owning ** and passive isk need to be gone from dust forever. Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:33:00 - [88] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Miokai Zahou wrote: Reason? Hmmm besides the team stacking, proto stomping, tank spamming, game exploiting, PC hogging and basic dough bags on the forum.... yeah not much at all. But then that is just a summary from what I've read personally I just can't stand tank spam in general. They should be removed from ambush and domination altogether and only be allowed in skirmish but that's just my opinion. DNS is hardly the only group to protostomp. And actually, I've yet to see a team stack from DNS outside of FW, which should be fair game for that. Game exploiting? Such as? Being douchebags on the forums? How many people aren't? That's hardly a reason for DNS to stick out as the most hated group. Easy answer: you can simply hate a group for that. I'll even be purer in my statements: I'm a realist and I have realistic expectations. There's nothing to stop you from protostomping if you choose. You aren't the first nor will be the last. But, as the realism kicks in, don't ever approach a forum with the "why me because it's not only me" attitude expecting a degree of absolution because it's the equivalent of saying that while you are in fact in a dominant position you continue the status quo because everyone else has also taken the same attitude. It's this VERY ATTITUDE that does directly continue to kill and ward off the ability of this game to be a success for the long term future. Putting that forward, a lot of corps should be hated for that and the one's who deserve to be hated the most are the one's who come to forums preaching as if they were as innocent of anything like Madonna singing "Like A Virgin". I mean really, you need to come to the forums to point this out and ask why? Do we suffer from an internal sense of insecurity and curiosity that you must ask? Would the US have to ask Russia why they hate them so much right now? I mean really because you did just that. And for the record saying "everyone else does it and someone else will also do it" is the same as saying "we'd rather not change to avoid anyone else doing it". Don't BS the excuses and simply put it forward as it is. Women hate that ya know and have podded more men than than the number of quafe drinks served in the galaxy.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7374	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:33:00 - [89] - Quote RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. I've never run full PRO in a PUB before (except AV). Though I do wish the competition was better. i don't see how popping tanks and running ADV gear 24/7 destroys the NPE. Finance is the only attrition DNS plays by? So we gained over 90% of MH by flaunting our ISK to wear down our enemies? What shady tactics? Is attacking a district and actually fighting considered shady nowadays? Man. I wish I could be a full protostomping, NPE destroying, shady dude who wins by smacking their opponents around with ISK; just like the peps in DNS. Proposed Mobile CRU Changes -HAND
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 739	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:49:00 - [90] - Quote Atiim wrote: RemingtonBeaver wrote: DNS runs in sponsored full proto in every pub match and then complain that no competition exists. DNS destroys the new player experience by such behavior and complains that the game is broken. DNS claims that no is trying to stop them when we all know that finance is the only attrition they play by. DNS acts as if this is some grand pursuit to own all of Molden Heath and even with shady tactics they cannot complete it. I've never run full PRO in a PUB before (except AV). Though I do wish the competition was better. i don't see how popping tanks and running ADV gear 24/7 destroys the NPE. Finance is the only attrition DNS plays by? So we gained over 90% of MH by flaunting our ISK to wear down our enemies? What shady tactics? Is attacking a district and actually fighting considered shady nowadays? Man. I wish I could be a full protostomping, NPE destroying, shady dude who wins by smacking their opponents around with ISK; just like the peps in DNS. Oh please, tell me how you're so much better than the rest of your alliance. I hate that you guys aren't getting payed like the big three in DNS. Sorry. Have fun under the thumb scum. We can pickle that.



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