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Sgt Kirk wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

Zaria Min Deir wrote:

Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE.

Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously?

If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them?

I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus.

I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about.
You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field?

Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus.


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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9708	Posted - 2014.01.07 14:48:00 - [1] - Quote They best be refunding heavy SP Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9708	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:05:00 - [2] - Quote THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: They best be refunding heavy SP SHOULD they decide to refund anything at all, then it's probably the whole dropsuit tree. Dunno what I'd do with a DS respec...I currently have gal and min logi proto, I'd probably drop gal and keep min I guess. I just won't stick with this game if they force me to keep this Amarr garbage ive been stuck with for almost 2 years. All I've wanted is my Gallente heavy. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9708	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:38:00 - [3] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: THE GREY CARDINAL wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: They best be refunding heavy SP SHOULD they decide to refund anything at all, then it's probably the whole dropsuit tree. Dunno what I'd do with a DS respec...I currently have gal and min logi proto, I'd probably drop gal and keep min I guess. I just won't stick with this game if they force me to keep this Amarr garbage ive been stuck with for almost 2 years. All I've wanted is my Gallente heavy. You haven't been forced. You chose to spend SP and you didn't choose to save it. You will have the same ability and right to spend new SP or saved SP on the new heavies just like everyone else. There is no violation of fairness here. So I was just supposed to not play heavy for two years because CCP didn't release all the basic variants? That's your final answer? Would you like to phone a friend first? Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9711	Posted - 2014.01.07 15:58:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I was wondering how long it would take for you guys to find these on Sisi. Just remember to have patience, and keep your magic crystal ball close by at all times. These numbers are not necessarily final. On another note, the Gallente Heavy is looking pretty. Why must you tease me so Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9712	Posted - 2014.01.07 16:12:00 - [5] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Why must you tease me so. Any chance you can say if there are any plans to refund Amarr heavy SP when the other three heavies drop? You shouldn't get a refund for skill points you've used that are still relevant and applicable in the current game. So you're saying I should have just not been a heavy even though that's what I wanted to play, simply because CCP decided that releasing all racial variants wasn't important? How does me playing a Gallente heavy instead of an Amarr heavy effect you? Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9715	Posted - 2014.01.07 17:05:00 - [6] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Heh every time they change something ppl are gunna cry for a respec and chuck tantrums, they've been doing this in eve for years so you might as well get used to the idea that things change and you'll need to train up for the next flavor of the patch. They release one races ship and none of the others? I didn't know that, last time I logged on there seems to be ships for all races. Huh, curious. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9716	Posted - 2014.01.07 17:52:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Heh every time they change something ppl are gunna cry for a respec and chuck tantrums, they've been doing this in eve for years so you might as well get used to the idea that things change and you'll need to train up for the next flavor of the patch. They release one races ship and none of the others? I didn't know that, last time I logged on there seems to be ships for all races. Huh, curious. We added SOE ships they're Gal Amarr! Whaaaa respec! So you support forcing people to hold onto Amarr heavies even if they never wanted to use them, but wanted to play heavies? It's suddenly our fault that CCP's schedule is as slow as their heavies? And who the ** wants a respec? I just want a refund of my Amarr heavy skill. , have a dev go in and swap it himself, I don't give a . I wanted Gallente Heavy moments after downloading this ***** game way back in closed beta, and I've been patiently waiting ever since. And aren't SOE ships their own thing, and not basic racial ships? Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9721	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:16:00 - [8] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Zaria Min Deir wrote: Racial Logi bonuses: FAIL HARDER, CCP, PLEASE. Thanks for removing the thing that made me spec into the Minlogi in the first place, sweet, well played. And yes, you said the bonuses were temporary, but could you have chosen anything LESS suited for the Minmatar logi? I mean, seriously? If they switched the Minmatar and Gallente Logi bonuses, people might be happier. Minmatar are better for flanking and what is better for flanking than a good Active Scanner? Gallente of course are the Brick Armor tanks, so would the Rep Tool bonus not make sense for them? I'm not understanding the issue against the Minmatar Logistics bonus. I understand the anger of being switch from Hacker to Healer but besides that there isn't much to complain about. You realise how much that would help a lot of repair logis on the field? Now with the Gallente Bonus I can only hope to assume the are making changes to the current Active scanner in conjunction with the new Gal. Logistics bonus. It definitely sucks for people who skilled all the way up in hacking and ignored reps, only to have their bonuses flipped around and ripped out from under them. Not all of us are vets with millions of SP Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9721	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:17:00 - [9] - Quote CCP LogiBro keeps saying something about Assault suits on IRC, someone should probably take a look at those. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9722	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:51:00 - [10] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits. Sorry, but you are wrong. If what is on SiSi precludes a significant and wide spread enough change then CCP really has no choice but to offer a respec. Punishing players because CCP hasn't finished huge, basic chucks of the game is nothing but bad customer service. Music to my ears, I'd be happy just having my heavy SP refunded, but I'd gladly take a full respec so I can max out my Incubus build. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9722	Posted - 2014.01.07 18:58:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I'm tired of respecs. The people crying about them are often people who already have 30 mil SP. But God forbid they need another million because they want to change suits. Sorry, but you are wrong. If what is on SiSi precludes a significant and wide spread enough change then CCP really has no choice but to offer a respec. Punishing players because CCP hasn't finished huge, basic chucks of the game is nothing but bad customer service. Music to my ears, I'd be happy just having my heavy SP refunded, but I'd gladly take a full respec so I can max out my Incubus build. Yeah, I can get out of infantry for good. Just drop a little SP on one of the rifles to go with my Raven Assault for making money in pubs. Honestly I only need a couple more million SP in my Incubus to be where I want it, I'd probably drop all my AR skills, and I might even totally abandon the heavy for what I always wanted to be: a scout. All I know is I'm keeping my Incubus one way or the other, the rest is up in the air. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9726	Posted - 2014.01.07 19:22:00 - [12] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: ...force me to keep this Amarr garbage ive been stuck with... You sir, have just made an enemy for life. So long as I don't ever have to wear a piece of Amarrian trash again, then I'm down with that. It's still better then being forced to wear Caldari, at least Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9741	Posted - 2014.01.08 00:11:00 - [13] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Obviously you spent your skills unwisely, as you decided to skill into a logi suit to do a scout suit's job, when you long knew the bonuses provided were temporary. That was a poor choice, but it doesn't entitle you to a respec. i spent my sp specifically for the bonus that the suit had, well before ccp said they were temporary. So yes, we deserve a respec. And this guy wants on the CPM? ::facepalm:: Not you Paran, most top end players have very specific builds that evolve out of the tools at hand. Having those tools fundementally altered entirely negates some past decisions. There are new suits coming, and completely new bonuses to all suits it would seem (except scouts? guess CCP really hates them), it completely alters the game and requires people to have the option to sit down with their accumulated SP and make an informed decision based on the new foundation set by CCP. Seeing as the vehicle respec happened without a hitch, it is fair to expect an infantry based respec at the very least, if not an optional full respec like the one shortly after Uprising launched. This game suffers from poor impressions even amongst its most loyal fans, the last thing we need is to infuriate a large portion of the community. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict