looks like I was right, you are a CoD kid basing his opinions around kills, so your arguments are truly null and void. now the picture is complete.

and your assumption is wrong, I have more dust experience than you, I am here since the beginning of closed beta with several characters able to use proto gear. I am just not a no life CoD kid like you

and btw, I can assure you, the same same situation will happen that we had in close beta. I can safely assume FG will get a nerf too and sooner or later people will start to cry about tanks infesting FW and the amount of effort to take one down. there will again be alot of rage and again tanks will get nerfed and we return to status quo. I am calling it now.

Your calculation is off, it ignores the initial layer of shield reducing damage and doesnt account for the lowered clip sizes of swarms which reduces its overall damage
I also have to ask when was the last time you died from a militia swarm launcher? Because thats what these new ones will be at a PROTO level
2 shot clips like the militia and the exact same damage but only if all 6 missiles hit

Hmm you know this reminds me of something, didnt tankers say they shouldnt die so easily because of how much isk they spend? Well here we have a suit made of glass that can only maybe kill something cheaper while dying to it in seconds
I mean if tankers were really concerned about balancing to isk cost they should be all over this right since its not fair which was a big part of the arguments Ive seen

Show me where I was rejoicing about the vehicle changes, the thread is right below this one and I dont recall ever posting in it
While you are at it tell me how militia gear inherently being stronger than proto gear is balance and why requiring more than one person to destroy something controlled by one person is balanced, and please keep in mind that this is one person in something of militia level

Dont try to twist my words
Actually I cant even say that since I never said anything about them in the first place, dont make **** up to support your position
And by full stats do you mean Minmatar and Ammar tanks? Forge gun changes? a bunch of other **** not directly related to what is now fact that an unfit militia tank can survive proto gear?
Its a weak argument son, your father should have taught you better

Not a fan of the proposed changes to the AV grenades. It's the most difficult AV weapon to use because it requires you to be essentially face to face with a tank. More risk should equal better reward, ie more damage.

If it takes a team of infantry to take down a tank then of course the tank is dominant. If one player can do something that requires several players on the opposing side to counter it, then that thing provides a decisive numerical advantage.

Rocks-paper-scissors requires that one 'paper' (AV) can beat one 'rock' (tank). If it takes two or three AV to beat one tank, then AV is futile, as you'd be better off just bringing out your own tank. In other words, you don't have rock-paper-scissors but rather tank>infantry.

This is a team based game but you dont need team work to drive a tank or to increase its offensive ability or defensive ability in anyway, please explain how "This is team based" holds up under that?
And since the obvious thing to mention is small turrets Ill counter that right now, small turrets will be removable which is something many tank drivers have been asking for and is the first thing many plan to remove thus negating even the illusion of a good tank requiring teamwork to operate

You keep using those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean
It would only be a double standard if I said you needed two tankers to take out a single player with AV and please point out where I said that and not that it should take one player to take out one player

Oh and since "Waaah isk cost" is something that gets trotted out Ill just say that all that isk cost buys you more health, more speed, more attack range, and resistance to most weapons with only 3 able to harm you in any practical sort of way and with two of those being specialized to only be effective on vehicles they damn well better actually be effective against them in a meaningful way, none of this "Herp derp they dropped my shields, Id better switch on my modules and drive away"

You know its funny, you guys freak out that swarms lock on and call it a crutch but then I look at all the bonuses tanks have while still retaining versatility while the swarm is good at one thing and one thing only and I have to wonder, who has the bigger crutch?

You keep using those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean
It would only be a double standard if I said you needed two tankers to take out a single player with AV and please point out where I said that and not that it should take one player to take out one player

Oh and since "Waaah isk cost" is something that gets trotted out Ill just say that all that isk cost buys you more health, more speed, more attack range, and resistance to most weapons with only 3 able to harm you in any practical sort of way and with two of those being specialized to only be effective on vehicles they damn well better actually be effective against them in a meaningful way, none of this "Herp derp they dropped my shields, Id better switch on my modules and drive away"

You know its funny, you guys freak out that swarms lock on and call it a crutch but then I look at all the bonuses tanks have while still retaining versatility while the swarm is good at one thing and one thing only and I have to wonder, who has the bigger crutch?