Caldari Logis aren't the super equipment logis. That's for gallente.

I will say this too...

All these changes really do is ensure caldari logis cannot and will not run proto equipment. There's no way we can afford it now when running complex modules is taking up every last shread of CPU/PG.

Something needs to be done about the price of proto equipment for logis.. atm its impossible to fit it.

Give us a Logi 'k.1 variant with only a sidearm and a 50% reduction to equipment or something... atm im looking at my nanocirc 5 and my proto nanohives and i'm starting to feel like it was a wasted investment... there is absolutely no way I can fit proto equipment without giving up every single low slot I have to CPU/PG modules.

FWIW: I've already downgraded to a GEK in order to fit proto uplinks and quantum adv nanos.

They didnt have to touch caldari assault tbh.

[quote=Beren Hurin]Caldari Logis aren't anything now.

Disagree. They arguably have 2 utility low slots they could use for hacking modules, biotics, or stealth mods. They would NOT be in CQC with that fit, but be able to sneak around to deploy equipment much better.

In fact C assault ds will be worst assault ds. Gal assault have cpu/pg hybrid wep bonus, so player can put better stuff on suit (like better sidearm along proto light wep and this means better DPS). Ammar assault have bonus to heat build up to laser/scramble rifle and this means better DPS. Matar assault have bonus to sidearm clip and... yes, you guessed it right, better DPS (especially with flaylock or even SMG).

All assault suit have bonus that extend offensive capabilities, well not all... Cald assault in near future can extend it deadliness by bashing ppl with few additional sh points. So as you all see this move is very disbalancing.

Dear Dev can you explain why you trying to change assault suit into logi?

Wow these guys have cried enough to make them change my caldari suit, why because the suit that the most dominant players wear have been logis. CCP you are messing up changing peoples gear everytime people get on here and cry, there will allways be a dominant fit. You have to stop doing this you wil run people off, this is what we speced, this is what we worked for and spent money in your game for, now bc of people crying you are removing it.

Perhaps what discourages frontline play is the 2mil+ cost per suit to fully fit a full proto.

So now, we have less EHP, no beneficial skills, and are expected to put ourselves in fire to res a fallen team mate? Guess we will be letting more of you Assault QQ babies lay there dead.

Dumbest move.

The ONLY suit that was fully balanced, so instead of fixing the other suits who were broken with bonuses and such, you break this one... makes sense, lets NOT fix what's broken, lets break what's fixed. Great business model.

Seriously. Perhaps we should all just move to COD since it is mostly no skill COD players who dictate what happens here. Can't kill a player, so just QQ till CCP nerfs it so you can.

The caldari logi nerf are a joke! (FAIL) im so sick of this you must be thinking we are stupid that we will be content with this farce... WTF ARE YOU THINKING ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If you dont know how to use a calculater you shouldent be working as a gamedeveloper. The caldari logi is still MUCH stronger then anyother suit.

You give NO real arguments or insight to the thought prosses going into this crap. That can only mean that you dident think but just nerfed blindly.

bottom line!!

naaaa fack it i was about to do the math for you but why should i?

This just reeks from bias.
First of all, what does it matter if it's 3 or 4?
It's still more than 1.
0.3 is "important" my ass.
Caldari logi gets an extra low slot in addition to an extra high slot, so it can take care of that speed difference and then some, in addition to taking care of that HP difference thanks to the extra high slot.
So in the end Caldari logi is an assault suit only with 3 equipment slots.

Gallente logi trades off some speed, 0.3, which is nothing and this closes in when both use plates (10% of 6.7m/s is less than 10% of 7m/s), and gains more regen more potential eHP and 4 equipment slots.

Oh and before you say anything, I have both assault and logi to proto level, whatever CCP does I'm ready, so bias isn't a problem for me.

uuuuhh....explain

.3 move speed is huge

The caldari logi nerf are a joke! (FAIL) im so sick of this you must be thinking we are stupid that we will be content with this farce... WTF ARE YOU THINKING ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If you dont know how to use a calculater you shouldent be working as a gamedeveloper. The caldari logi is still MUCH stronger then anyother suit.

You give NO real arguments or insight to the thought prosses going into this crap. That can only mean that you dident think but just nerfed blindly.

bottom line!!

naaaa fack it i was about to do the math for you but why should i?

I will say this too...

All these changes really do is ensure caldari logis cannot and will not run proto equipment. There's no way we can afford it now when running complex modules is taking up every last shread of CPU/PG.

Something needs to be done about the price of proto equipment for logis.. atm its impossible to fit it.

Give us a Logi 'k.1 variant with only a sidearm and a 50% reduction to equipment or something... atm im looking at my nanocirc 5 and my proto nanohives and i'm starting to feel like it was a wasted investment... there is absolutely no way I can fit proto equipment without giving up every single low slot I have to CPU/PG modules.

FWIW: I've already downgraded to a GEK in order to fit proto uplinks and quantum adv nanos.

Wow these guys have cried enough to make them change my caldari suit, why because the suit that the most dominant players wear have been logis. CCP you are messing up changing peoples gear everytime people get on here and cry, there will allways be a dominant fit. You have to stop doing this you wil run people off, this is what we speced, this is what we worked for and spent money in your game for, now bc of people crying you are removing it.

What exactly do you need me to explain?

this only apply yo caldari logi.

Most logi run 3 shield extenders that is a 51 hp nerf from that alone really big deal?? lol

then 20 reduction to cpu.. well joke... again most logi use cpu upgrades and with a complex they have way more the 20 even 50 reduction wouldent change squat

And? their HP would still be lower than the assault suits, especially now that the cal assault had that OP bonus given to them, seriously, are you dumb?

What exactly do you need me to explain?

this only apply yo caldari logi.

Most logi run 3 shield extenders that is a 51 hp nerf from that alone really big deal?? lol

then 20 reduction to cpu.. well joke... again most logi use cpu upgrades and with a complex they have way more the 20 even 50 reduction wouldent change squat

im guessing because you lack calculator skills