Getting tired of playing this game only to have millions of SP invalidated by 'balancing'. Some of us don't have the time to play this game all day every day and have to spend our SP intelligently. Unfortunately CCP continues to fail at creating a balanced well programmed game and punishes the casuals.

Admittedly, logistics weren't exactly role specific and doubled effectively as assault, making this a good change, but to call this the commercial release and still be making changes like this . . . yeah, we're out of beta alright. This should have happened before the SP reallocation. I hope another one is offered later, when this game is finally solid.



No, next time a game is developed keep it in beta until its actually worthy of a commercial release. Making money off a game like this is borderline criminal.

There was no reason to give the bonus to the Caldari assault. By this you've created a new OP suit that it's way better than the other 3 races. And you totally forgot about Gallente, no bonus to armor why???? What is the issue with creating a single god mode suit? Is it for you to have fun at the office or wtf? Please remove that bonus for the Caldari assault. If you're not planning to remove it, give Gallente suits a bonus to armor plates.

-XOXO

Question about this:


So at level 5 how is the 25% bonus represented? Does it add itself to the total regulators, i.e. a standard (or militia) regular goes from 10% to 35%? Or does it increase the effectivness of that 10% by 25%, i.e. making the 10% standard module modify recharge delay by 12.5% (before the regulator skills kicks in)?

If its the former then CalLogi will still be broken, it just won't have as much shield HP. I really hope its the latter.

While we are on this subject can Dev make a post or Blog about how the percentages are applied mathamatically? With a few examples?

For example, I am confusing on how a 5 MinLogi (total of 25% boost to hacking speed) with lvl 5 in Systems hacking (also a 25% total bonus to hacking speed) equipped with a Proto codebreaker (*another* 25% hacking speed bonus) works out to? Is that 175% hacking speed?

These changes look good. Hopefully they're enough to bring the suits into line, which I suppose we shall see.

Also to those complaining, it does not take much reflection to realise that the way things have been was not always going to remain. What is desirable is that a game be constantly balanced. You should train with a long term view in mind, rather than just trying to pick the strongest most obviously broken thing that you know is one day going to get patched.

How can you make such drastic changes without providing respecs?

Remember it was not the gamer that messed up. It was you that messed.

Yeah finally the amarr logistic won't be the underdog, and on top of that the assault caldari will be really more than the cheaper version of the basic fit.

PD: I want this to be a different message for not shallow my true thanks, but isn't 3 PG a little too ... well little. Especially when at proto level the difference between the other logistics is like 12 PG (don't take me on that one, I am not close to the console right now) but never the less thank you for these updates.

Question about this:


So at level 5 how is the 25% bonus represented? Does it add itself to the total regulators, i.e. a standard (or militia) regular goes from 10% to 35%? Or does it increase the effectivness of that 10% by 25%, i.e. making the 10% standard module modify recharge delay by 12.5% (before the regulator skills kicks in)?

If its the former then CalLogi will still be broken, it just won't have as much shield HP. I really hope its the latter.

While we are on this subject can Dev make a post or Blog about how the percentages are applied mathamatically? With a few examples?

For example, I am confusing on how a 5 MinLogi (total of 25% boost to hacking speed) with lvl 5 in Systems hacking (also a 25% total bonus to hacking speed) equipped with a Proto codebreaker (*another* 25% hacking speed bonus) works out to? Is that 175% hacking speed?

No, next time a game is developed keep it in beta until its actually worthy of a commercial release. Making money off a game like this is borderline criminal.

shield recharge bonus on assault is blanketed, hard coded in so trying to change itaffects all of the suits. And honestly, I like having reduced CPU/PG on hybrid weapons, only downsideisno viable sidearmto benefit fromit.

So 1 thing.... 1.3 is just 1 thing, at this rate, I might see real fixes by 2015, when I wont be playing dust....

"Your Honor, I played this free game and they changed my overpowered suit bonus from shield extension to shield recharge. I think they should go to jail because that's just a crime. Of some sort. Yeah, I have no idea what law that would be breaking, but still..."

It's a free game with free updates and developers that talk to the players. If you don't think it's worthy of commercial release then don't give them any money. The money part is still very much optional last time I looked.

Problem solved.

Yeah finally the amarr logistic won't be the underdog, and on top of that the assault caldari will be really more than the cheaper version of the basic fit.

PD: I want this to be a different message for not shallow my true thanks, but isn't 3 PG a little too ... well little. Especially when at proto level the difference between the other logistics is like 12 PG (don't take me on that one, I am not close to the console right now) but never the less thank you for these updates.

How can you make such drastic changes without providing respecs?

Remember it was not the gamer that messed up. It was you that messed.

One thing.

Can you consider changing the logi bonus to fitting reduction on equipment? Give armor tanked logis a passive rep if you need to.. but for someone who actually plays the logi side of cal logi... fitting proto equipment is almost impossible atm, and I would gladly give up 5hp/s.

One thing.

Can you consider changing the logi bonus to fitting reduction on equipment? Give armor tanked logis a passive rep if you need to.. but for someone who actually plays the logi side of cal logi... fitting proto equipment is almost impossible atm, and I would gladly give up 5hp/s.

Did they say this is the only thing that is changing in 1.3? It could be, but I doubt it.

That's what Gallente get. It was already an option.