Does nobody see that this GÇ£fixGÇ¥ to the Caldari logi isn't really a fix at all?

Moving the efficacy bonus of extenders to the assault class will just make the Caldari assault OP.

The new Caldari Assault bonus is a nerf. (Basically they're trying to address the imbalance of shield vs armor in a roughshod, spackle it together, that'll do for now kinda way.)

If you didn't want to be logistics, you shouldn't have skilled into logistics. Cry all you want. You should have seen it coming.

mimatar logi need more shield

How bout go **** yourself.

Does nobody see that this GÇ£fixGÇ¥ to the Caldari logi isn't really a fix at all?

Moving the efficacy bonus of extenders to the assault class will just make the Caldari assault OP.

How can you make such drastic changes without providing respecs?

Remember it was not the gamer that messed up. It was you that messed.

all I can say is boo too the change but I am happy as hell I skilled in too Cal Assaults suit too but now cal logi will be ez kills I just wonder what ccp will f up next I feel sorry too all the ppl or respect too logi and now have **** for skills in a suit that will die from everything going too grab my popcorn and read the all rage quit post

Yupp. you got that right, because I'm a Logi doing MY JOB. Nopt hunting kills or worrying about K/D... Not to mention I am also a grown adult, who has a full time Job, 5 kids, a house to tend, a farm to run, and something called a life. Sorry if this disappoints you.

So first you ***** about how Logi's are being assaults, then you try to go the route of TRYING to act like I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't have a **** load of kills. Which is it? You want us Logi's to kill more, or do our job?

Seems you just want to be on the band wagon of assault players who ***** because you get owned by a logi when you go toe to toe. Seriously make up your mind which way you want it.

Like I said, this is going to break the ONLY suit that was balanced. While it was misused, that wasn't the suits issue, the issue was the other suits not having a balanced bonus/racial to make them work correctly as intended.

So yeah, I have **** for kills, worse K/D, but I don't play this game like COD where K/D matters to me. My squad, my team, and doing my chosen role matter to me. Also having fun and winning because we worked as a team.

The CPU nerf on the Cal Logi is excessive and penalizes those using the Advanced Cal Logi suit for its intended purpose.

A tanked Cal Logi Advanced suit running basic/advanced equipment will now require an excessive amount of SP in order to stack up to comparably tanked Gallente and Minmatar suits (~1 mil SP and ~700k SP, respectively).

Please, CCP, at the very least do not alter the CPU at the STD/ADV level to fix a Proto level problem!

More detail in this post.

Actually, the CPU 'nerf' of 20 is rather irrelevant for those logis who spend their PG/CPU on high slots and good equipment.
Those people spend one of their lows for CPU upgrade and usually enhanced has done the trick, now they just upgrade into complex.


20 less CPU might on the other hand hamper those logis who use all HIs and LOs for combat modules (in case of LOs: red cans, regulators, maybe damps). As they are not willing to use a CPU upgrade for a low, they might be affected - but then again having minimal EQ usually gives all PG/CPU they ever need.

your total war points: 87.657...
win/lose ratio : 1.25...

would say that if you did a good job you would have a better w/L ratio.
your warpoints is just meeehhh when you paint a picture of a ultra logi who helps the team like a boss!

im happy you have a nice job and famly but you private life has nothing to do with dust 514, dont use that as an excuse to suck.

you make it sound like if your win/lose ratio is high you are not a team player and if your k/d is above 1 you suck and are a cod player who needs to understand this is not cod...

im will draw a parralel to leauge of legends here!

Do you think it would be to most played game in the world if they ballenced everything acording to casual and noob player opinions?

what is ballenced in your hands might be extreamly op or even up in a top tier players hand!

Again, your tossing stats like they mean jack squat. As I stated before, I play, I play damn well, sorry I have a life and can't play every day 24/7 while sitting in my moms basement.

I never said if your stats are high you suck. My statement was that people like you who put so much stress on K/D need to realize that K/D is not everything in this game. Sadly, you seem to still be stuck on being a stat queen.

The only reason this is an issue, is cal assault players like you QQ. Actual people who run the Logi suits for the role intended know this is a bad change. There were other ways to adjust it so people stop using it as an assault.

Again still makes no sense why you would spend the massive difference in isk to outfit a proto logi with worse base stats and only 87 more EHP than a same assault suit with better stats, 87 less EHP and a hell of a lot cheaper to run.

I can't help someone outfits it as Logi, when the suit is by far better suited at support. How about explain why someone would outfit a Heavy to sniper with? Or put a injector on an assault? It's called flexibility and playing to your individual play style. Something EvE has been known for, yet seems with Dust too many QQ babies want to stop that.

Lets not get into the fact that now Amarr Logi now has 3H 4L, still has its 25% armor mod efficacy, and a sidearm.

Cal Logi will now have 370 CPU while the other logi's have 390.

So instead of fixing the suit, which they could have done. They screwed Cal Assault/Logi up from other same frame suits.

If they wanted the Cal Logi to be closer to the assault, pull 1 High, that would pull the 87 EHP difference and still leave us with less stats and no sidearm.

You have yet to provide any real facts other than my stats. So again, you have just jumped on a bandwagon with no real facts to support your argument. Like most who QQ here. Show your facts or move on.

@ Touchy, nice try to troll.. too bad you fail at it.

Just so everyone knows, I don't run a duvolle. So sorry for your disappointment.

The fact of how I fit my suit was relevant to another poster thank you. Guess you fail at reading.

I can find plenty of facts. Yet not once have you proven how Cal Logi is OP properly fitted for it's role.

Again, there were better ways to get the Logi back in tune with it's role. Screwing up multiple suits to please a bunch of QQ babies was not the best way. Further breaking the suits instead of balancing the other suits, while easier, is not better.

The Cal Logi was fully balanced, the other suits should have been brought up to be so as well. Now we have 4 Frames unbalanced as opposed to 3. Which means more work in the end to re balance them, as they have said this is temporary till they can figure out a better balance.

The fact of how I fit my suit was relevant to another poster thank you. Guess you fail at reading.

I can find plenty of facts. Yet not once have you proven how Cal Logi is OP properly fitted for it's role.

Again, there were better ways to get the Logi back in tune with it's role. Screwing up multiple suits to please a bunch of QQ babies was not the best way. Further breaking the suits instead of balancing the other suits, while easier, is not better.

The Cal Logi was fully balanced, the other suits should have been brought up to be so as well. Now we have 4 Frames unbalanced as opposed to 3. Which means more work in the end to re balance them, as they have said this is temporary till they can figure out a better balance.

really strong argument! : leave it to the players themself to balance the suits!

and how you fit your suit is aperantly relevent to this post aswell

Do you just make up stuff as you go? Who said leave it to the players? I said there were better ways.

Are you seriously that dense you can't grasp basic reading comprehension?

Still you fail to rebuttal with facts. You wanted me to ask you what proof I needed, well I did. Yet you still failed to answer that.. instead you tried to be sarcastic and not add anything other than your lack of IQ to the conversation.

Perhaps you have missed the point that I agree the suit needed adjustment to force players back into Logi roles. However, breaking 2 suits to fix one does not push the game forward.

Basic game design is you FIX things with updates. Not further break them to please a few.

The easiest solution to the whole Logi assault issue would have been remove 1 High slot. That would put it back on EHP level of the assault, but still with higher cost. Then add 1 more Equip to the Assault. Leave the Bonuses on Logi and Assault as they serve their function well.

Yet no where have you suggested a good fix, only criticize. No where have you shown facts to support your OP argument in suit fit for its role.

The suit needs work, yes. However the proposed change is not fixing the issue.