Yeah finally the amarr logistic won't be the underdog, and on top of that the assault caldari will be really more than the cheaper version of the basic fit.

PD: I want this to be a different message for not shallow my true thanks, but isn't 3 PG a little too ... well little. Especially when at proto level the difference between the other logistics is like 12 PG (don't take me on that one, I am not close to the console right now) but never the less thank you for these updates.

Question about this:


So at level 5 how is the 25% bonus represented? Does it add itself to the total regulators, i.e. a standard (or militia) regular goes from 10% to 35%? Or does it increase the effectivness of that 10% by 25%, i.e. making the 10% standard module modify recharge delay by 12.5% (before the regulator skills kicks in)?

If its the former then CalLogi will still be broken, it just won't have as much shield HP. I really hope its the latter.

While we are on this subject can Dev make a post or Blog about how the percentages are applied mathamatically? With a few examples?

For example, I am confusing on how a 5 MinLogi (total of 25% boost to hacking speed) with lvl 5 in Systems hacking (also a 25% total bonus to hacking speed) equipped with a Proto codebreaker (*another* 25% hacking speed bonus) works out to? Is that 175% hacking speed?

Good memory. The difference is 66pg amarr, 78 for everyone else as I recall. 69 is still lowish compared to the others... I guess with engineering and core maxed, that's 30% more PG, which means you can effectively get 4 more PG... ish.? With skills maxed? Maybe?

Meh.
Still doesn't change the fact that Logi suit = Assault suit but with more equipment slots, rendering assault suits pointless.

Also, buffed Caldari assault while leaving Gallente assault in the dust, as usual.

I've never seen any other logi suit being used as an assault except for the Caldari. This is obviously a WIP, so armor tanking suits will probably get their day too.

I wonder how many of those demanding repecs are people who violently opposed them three days ago?

Anyone who thinks respecs are a bad idea needs to realize that when changes are made to the game, respecs should be considered.

Changes are not our fault.


Munch

And how do you distinguish the two?
In all honesty, there is no reason to go assault when logi suits provide you with 4 equipment slots, WHICH IS A HUGE thing to have on the battlefield vs extremely tiny downsides which you get an extra slot to mitigate. (That -60hp on logi suits? Yeah, one plate or extender fixes that, leaving you with the same amount of slots and HP as an assault).

You're underestimating the advantage of having a sidearm and better base stats than a logi. I used to play assault, got bored and went logi. Being slower and not having that extra bit of DPS makes a huge difference when you start losing fights you could easily win or run from if you had that sidearm, faster recharge delay, more stamina, and speed. Also, the strafing "buff" could be counted as an indirect nerf to logis since they're no faster than a heavy.

Yeah finally the amarr logistic won't be the underdog, and on top of that the assault caldari will be really more than the cheaper version of the basic fit.

PD: I want this to be a different message for not shallow my true thanks, but isn't 3 PG a little too ... well little. Especially when at proto level the difference between the other logistics is like 12 PG (don't take me on that one, I am not close to the console right now) but never the less thank you for these updates.

I wonder how many of those demanding repecs are people who violently opposed them three days ago?

Anyone who thinks respecs are a bad idea needs to realize that when changes are made to the game, respecs should be considered.

Changes are not our fault.


Munch

It matters way more than you think. Just being able to run for cover or have that extra weapon makes all the difference. As a logi, my only sidearm is a grenade and last time I checked, only one piece of equipment is capable of killing infantry, but has an arming timer.

It's not about killing.
It's about having everything you want in one soldier.
Need ammo?
Yup.
Need revive?
Yup.
Need repairs?
Yup.
Need drop uplinks?
Yup.