Question about this:


So at level 5 how is the 25% bonus represented? Does it add itself to the total regulators, i.e. a standard (or militia) regular goes from 10% to 35%? Or does it increase the effectivness of that 10% by 25%, i.e. making the 10% standard module modify recharge delay by 12.5% (before the regulator skills kicks in)?

If its the former then CalLogi will still be broken, it just won't have as much shield HP. I really hope its the latter.

While we are on this subject can Dev make a post or Blog about how the percentages are applied mathamatically? With a few examples?

For example, I am confusing on how a 5 MinLogi (total of 25% boost to hacking speed) with lvl 5 in Systems hacking (also a 25% total bonus to hacking speed) equipped with a Proto codebreaker (*another* 25% hacking speed bonus) works out to? Is that 175% hacking speed?

Yeah finally the amarr logistic won't be the underdog, and on top of that the assault caldari will be really more than the cheaper version of the basic fit.

PD: I want this to be a different message for not shallow my true thanks, but isn't 3 PG a little too ... well little. Especially when at proto level the difference between the other logistics is like 12 PG (don't take me on that one, I am not close to the console right now) but never the less thank you for these updates.

I wonder how many of those demanding repecs are people who violently opposed them three days ago?

Anyone who thinks respecs are a bad idea needs to realize that when changes are made to the game, respecs should be considered.

Changes are not our fault.


Munch

Meh.
Still doesn't change the fact that Logi suit = Assault suit but with more equipment slots, rendering assault suits pointless.

Also, buffed Caldari assault while leaving Gallente assault in the dust, as usual.

And how do you distinguish the two?
In all honesty, there is no reason to go assault when logi suits provide you with 4 equipment slots, WHICH IS A HUGE thing to have on the battlefield vs extremely tiny downsides which you get an extra slot to mitigate. (That -60hp on logi suits? Yeah, one plate or extender fixes that, leaving you with the same amount of slots and HP as an assault).

0.3 less speed.
0.3.
Is that really that big of deal?
Because I never, EVER, had a situation where an extra 0.3 would save my life.

And while yes a sidearm is useful, but it's a fallback, most of the time your assault rifle does the job well enough.
Out of 5 rounds I only needed my SMG once, and I had the time to reload if I really wanted to.

As I said, all your downsides are too small to compare to the HUGE advantage having 3+ equipment slots give you.

It's not about killing.
It's about having everything you want in one soldier.
Need ammo?
Yup.
Need revive?
Yup.
Need repairs?
Yup.
Need drop uplinks?
Yup.

I expect you to be less effective at everything else in exchange for that.
Instead, you are just as effective at everything else while still having more power as support.
So in the end, assault is a pointless suit.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Shptgun Scouts vs Logi?
You joking?
I never died to a shotgun scout once in my logi fit, heck I had times when I was swarmed by 3 and I could still dodge them because the speed difference is nothing.

So you traded in the Caladri Assault bonus from 25% reload speed to 10% better shield extenders? That is a max bonus of 28 extra shields in a proto suit that runs 4 complex shield extenders. Most likely in normal (Proto) use that means 14-21 extra shields.

So you took the worse Assault suit bonus and made it even worse!!! WTF!

Lets choose which would you rather have a Galante suit that gets 25% CPU/PG reduction to hybrid weapons or 7 extra hp per complex shield extender.

I just add this to your list of stupid ideas.

I'm mad at you CCP. I wish you'd stop changing the game so much, ninja updates included

mimatar logi need more shield

all I can say is boo too the change but I am happy as hell I skilled in too Cal Assaults suit too but now cal logi will be ez kills I just wonder what ccp will f up next I feel sorry too all the ppl or respect too logi and now have **** for skills in a suit that will die from everything going too grab my popcorn and read the all rage quit post

Nerf all the other Logisitcs suit in order to have them aligned with Caldari Logi

-20 CPU to all Logisitcs dropsuits

Heres the problem, CCP and the CPM are constantly making changes to accomodate the group crying the loudest, in this instance is no diffrent. The number 1 and 2 players by kills are both Caldari Logis. Is it any wonder that people have found a dominant combonation of both suit and weapon? In some situations certain suits will always be dominant. The greater issue here to me is CCP changing the structural attributes and foundational base of the suits which I speced into based on those particular points. Obviously it was the superior suit which is why I choose it. I spent 100 dollars on an elite pack for Aur so that I could by boosters toget SP faster to spec into something that you offered now you are taking that product away without offering any type of respec? I think that you will find we first person shooters are a bit more intolerant of these changes than your average space nerd might be, if you want the loyalty of the average fps we want consistency and not to have a dominant combo we discover yanked because of those who QQ do so loudly. What happened to "You war your way?" My Caldari Logi didn't come with instructions on how to use it, I see that Ccp doesn't want us to be creative in a persistent universe they want rote drones that play the game the way they want it played, nevermind to your creative whims petty dust bunnies. Let me know how long that lasts... These cry babies don't want balance they want fair, and they think that there should always be a fair chance of getting the kill like in COD. If balance means equal then why have diffrent suits, just make them all the same.

Problem with your statement is you are trying to tell us how to use a logi suit. Its our game shouldnt we get to decide?

Cosgar, your exactly right-

The realty of it is that a caldari logi can still tank and be an attack/logi if they merely spec into other areas particularly areas that lower the CPU's,s and PG's of an item and or gear-

for example, if you lower the cpu's and pg's on the AR( because thats what i notice most guys use) you potentiall have the chance to reduce your AR's by 30% + thats more than enough CPU to continue tanking as an ATTACK logo

For example- You can tank level 5 electronics-

For example- you can use a GEK instead of a duvolle -

There are multiple ways to continue being an attack logo- CCP's move only forces you to "skill into it" like the rest of use logi's

Just pull out your trump card and stop playing when destiny, cod ghosts or bf4 drops like the rest of us, beats the hell out of EULAS everytime.

The CPU nerf was too much. Shoulda just been the bonus. Cal logis are too one dimensional now. You can generally be sure they either have no armor or no equipment. The End.

If we were spoiled then all other logis are still spoiled. We're the only ones that are pure and spotless. It's kinda lonely. They should just take away a low slot from proto and add an equipment slot and give us back our CPU.