Then they failed to deliver that part as i can still do a 360 in an instant, i just dont have any control over my aiming.

DS3 user here...

Was mouse and keyboard really advantageous enough to warrant the change to aiming?

I can understand problems like faster strafing or tanks being faster when using a keyboard... Yeah, that needed tweaking, but aiming was okay as far as i can tell anyways.. Both were fun and worked just fine. Yes, one is inherently superior, but superior aim is such a small variable unless you're a sniper. There's gear, there's your team, there's your positioning, there's your SP.

Everything seemed okay.

In regards to rotation speeds- they aren't there to gimp mouse/keyboard, they're just there to balance the suits or at least that was the original explanation anyways. I remember because I normally like my senstivity very high. (I had my sensitivity at 0-0 in chromo to keep my turning consistent because of the rotation speed, it was annoying but I got over it and had to deal with it)

Mouse is inherently superior to a controller, there's no way around that. This new control style just ruins both I think.

A solution might be to take Raw mouse input for looking around, but limit the cross hairs to that of the suit; with a soft cap once you twist your head to a certain limit.

The smoothest implementation of this would be allowing independent turning of the head, so you can look around almost unrestricted (limited to how far the head can turn), meanwhile, the cross hair will try to catch up as fast as the suit allows.

This is also possible for controller sensitivities that would normally exceed the turn speed of the suit, meaning that you can have controller sensitivity be universal rather than suit dependent.


In an ideal world, the arms would compensate partially, moving as fast as the head turn speed up to a point, then lagging behind as the arm movement is restricted by the torso which needs to catch up.

And example of this is the aiming in MechWarrior Online; you can look around as fast as your mouse allows, but the mech turns at its own speed as it tries to catch up to where you're aiming.

The feedback we have received has been very useful but also very varied, in some cases conflicting and in others confusing. We have been unable to replicate some of the issues (such as Move settings having an impact on the mouse which just shouldnGÇÖt be possible). Because of this we are also investigating the possibility that changes/problems outside of the control system itself are effecting the experience. More on that if we find anything.

One last thing, whether youGÇÖre providing constructive feedback or screaming in pure hatred please mention what control method youGÇÖre using. We really need to know that

CCP Wolfman

That's because they've nerfed the controls - thus breaking the balance in favour of SIxaxis aim - instead of simply capping the turn speed like they should have been doing all along.

That's because they've nerfed the controls - thus breaking the balance in favour of SIxaxis aim - instead of simply capping the turn speed like they should have been doing all along.

Proper mouse aim, with a HARD limit to turn speed. Let people spin the mouse and do whatever they want, but make sure they never turn faster than the Sixaxis controller is capable of. You get all the precision and sensitiviy options of competent mouse control, but without the ability to ignore the restrictions inherent in a console shooter.

That's what I've been looking for all along.

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Alternate suggestion: (something you could do if you have the time)
have two "cursors", one is without speed limit and will move the camera without delay, but there will be a separate crosshair that controls the gun aim (this will also affect the gun model) will slowly "catch up" within its speed limit to where you are looking at (the first cursor). This way you get to preserve your game design concepts (slow turning for heavies/turrets) but won't make the game feel laggy.
TLDR: control->camera without speed limit, but the gun aim will follow with their own limits. (so if you turn very quickly 180 degree, your camera will turn very quickly without any speed limit, but you will see your gun turning slowly to catch up. If you fire within this catch up period, you will effectively see the gun spraying bullets along a trail as it tries to go to the centre of the camera.
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I'm playing DUST514 with the PS Move controller that came bundled with my PS3 and I'm getting stomped by DS3 users. Plz nerf DS3.

That's because they've nerfed the controls - thus breaking the balance in favour of SIxaxis aim - instead of simply capping the turn speed like they should have been doing all along.

Proper mouse aim, with a HARD limit to turn speed. Let people spin the mouse and do whatever they want, but make sure they never turn faster than the Sixaxis controller is capable of. You get all the precision and sensitiviy options of competent mouse control, but without the ability to ignore the restrictions inherent in a console shooter.

That's what I've been looking for all along.

Fix the inverse acceleration and you've fixed the KBM problem. My K:D has dropped sharply since the pre-release, and my fun has dropped just as abruptly. It's not the skill re-spec, it's the controls that are ruining it for me.

DS3 user

Just disable kbm, like 99% other shooters on ps3 its only way to make game equal fot all. Or disable ds3, and 80% players will leave dust514.

Aiming with kbm (in chromosome) was too fast and total unfair. In near future ds3 users have no future in this game if mouse will have advantage with aiming and turning speed.

You choosed PS3 as platform for dust514, so, i am sure you thought about PS3's install base, and you have planned to get players from this install base. So just use your imagination for thinking in way of new DS3 lplayers who came to dust514 - 95% of them have no slighest chances to compete vs kbm's users. Ok, i play shooters with ds3 for years, i can win vs most of unxperienced kbm users, but i have not many chances vs experienced kbm user.So i know chances well, if one corp will get many experienced kbm users - no one ds3 corp will win them. No one.

And most of ds3 users wont get kbm, they just will leave game. If you will not balance kbm vs ds3 i serious will think about leave this game. What the hell, better i will play in fair game in battlefield 4 than always loose to kbm users here. I got 15 friends from bf3 to dust514, they have same opinion.

Kbm users dont want play with ds3? Ok, let them play this game with kbm, but with some limitation wich meke kbm equal to ds3. Why the must have permanent advantage vs 80% of other players?

If you want success on ps3 - think about ds3 users at first.

look 3 post before yours at my previous. Do you not see the truth to it, or are you just going to cry until you get your way?I use both not just kb/m and brought to light that certain fixes could bring a form of balance, but instead of arguing valid points, you just rant your heart out.

If CCP is really worried about DS3 users and wants to hold their hands, then just improve auto-aim. That's what it is there for, don't ruin the aim of players who actually want to enjoy aiming!

Dont tell me what to do, and i will not say where you must go. I have same rights to show my opinion here.If CCP can balance it - i will happy. If they wont balance - ds3 users wont play. Thats all.

p.s. and try to read posts fully next time, i told about balance too, but best way is disabling kbm, coz 10-15% is kbm users. And they are crying here for keep their advantage.