why not "press to win" button? I want use my skill, not aim bot. So only way is limitation of kbm to level of ds3, or disabling kbm at all. Why 15% of players have advantage and dare to demand keep it?

those 10-15% KBM users are also 90% of the time holder of 1-3 Eve payed accounts, disabling KBM will not be good from a busness perspective, just me and my 3 friends inbetween us hold 13 total Dust/Eve accounts all payed for.

I also never seen you have remorse as you 4 man pub stomp trough lines of oblivious noobs that are using ds3's, if thats fine why are you quacking in your boots if 2 out of those 16 are KBM users ? Are they the only ones capable of ruining your KDR?

Besides if they disable KBM support, i will hook up my Eagle Eye converter, and seeing it works better as the current native KMB support we have atm, we will still be here.

Right now i am fighting more with my controls then i am fighting my opponents and my KDR is still going up, but not so good KBM players are having their fun ruined bigtime and this game is supposed to be one for the long haul, where CCP wants to aquire as much players as possible.

Limiting the pool to just ds3 players limits the total scope of players, you don't seem to be too distraught about Move players playing against you ? Why ? Because they are easy pickings ?

First... You don't have to use auto-aim.

Second... You say you want to limit keyboard and mouse to the level of DS3... but, what exactly is the level of the DS3? Do you really think it's terrible enough to deserve this set-up... and if you do, then why even use a controller that you think is such a low level piece of hardware?

Third... They can't truly limit keyboard and mouse itself, they've only only limited their ability to aim. Why in the world would anyone want that? FPS players want to be able to aim, let the people who can't or don't care about aiming have their auto-aim while everybody else can enjoy the game.

1. More aim assist - less skill for playing. Aim-bot its maximum on this way.

2. I tried kbm in chromosome, i did can aim twice faster than with ds3, and i had x3-4 turning speed. As minimum turning speed must be limited. CCP made the overall speed of the game slower, so if i have controls for kbm like in chromosome - i am headshot god in Uprising. Thats not fair at all. And other side of kbm - its provide macroses.... one more reason to disable mouse support.

3. Yes, i have no fun to make anyone unhappy, but most of players play with ds3, why 15% of players must have advantage? And improving aim assist is not best choise. Maybe in complex solution a little improved aim assist will not bad. So its dilemma. And CCP must make choise or find way to balance.

3. That question can be flipped, why must 15% of players have their aim ruined? Improving aim assist lets people who want to challenge themselves to aim while catering to the people who can't. That''s what CCP is trying to accomplish right?

Disabling mouse - will ruin their game, i agree. But i dont want to play vs corps of experienced kbm users - i cant win them coz controller advantage only. Its easy to gather them in one domination battle team.

It definitely ruin my game, i see no rreason for playing in game where i have no chances to win. And all ds3 users understand it too.

One way to make game equal for all - one type of controller. Let it be kbm, so i leave this game for ever. Or let it be ds3 - kbm users will buy emulators, anyway they wanna easy way. But emulators have some limitations too, it will more fair for all than current situation.

You're exaggerating... You do have a chance to win. I use the DS3 and I win. I can't tell who is using keyboard and mouse and who isn't and I suspect other players can't either. I only worry about who is good and who is not, but with the way things are now... Everybody might as well be terrible shots...
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Better aim alone doesn't win corp battles.

I do feel for you DS3 users though, I don't want an advantage at all, I just want a game I can enjoy.

Take a mouse. Try to make fine movements with sensitivity at 100. Nearly impossible. Now slowly move your mouse from one side of the pad from the other. You'll do a number of 360's. Now try again but much faster this time. You will notice the number of 360's drop. No wonder no one can aim or GTFO. *edit* This is the source of the perceived "input lag" it's not lag at all, just backwards accelleration. *edit*we can turn.

You are joking? In FPS it always win battles. ALWAYS. Tactic work if aiming and shooting skills is equal.

So first factor is aiming and shooting skills, secondary factor - tactical skills.

Maybe will work something like it:

24vs24 is corp battle

30% of each team allow to be kbm users, 70% of each team ds3 users.

So each team have 8 slots for mouse users and 16 slots for ds3 users.

Ds3 users can occupy kbm slots if they want.

Kbm users cannot occupy ds3 slot at all.

And it will fair enough, coz prevent stacking of kbm users.

I want it too bro. CCP must resolve this problem somehow

Ban the DS3.

You act like mouse and keyboard is unstoppable or it's magic or it will instantly negate tactics, it does not.

Mouse evil for PS3. professionals with long play on his arm, long known as a programmatic way to customize the mouse. Sensitivity should be equal for the mouse and the DS3. We must make the possibility for CO regulation sensitivity and streyfe of sight, maybe then it will be easier to all.

Ok, lets do it. You will play alone then

Automatic win.

Best in the world.

THIS is still an issue. I hope they'll fix it at least on 5/14

Aim is better now after the hotfix... but still not good. The aim problem is really evident when shooting small static targets. Destroying enemy nanohives best illustrates the problem. I'm guessing it's the acceleration? Creates a swaying effect similar to a scoped sniper. At least that's the best way I can think to describe it.

Mouse sensitivity at 40. Setting it at twenty is still broken.

The kb/m is supported by the ps3, as well as a variety of other periphials. It is up to to the game developers to decide which ones are supported for there game. Both the kb/m and controler have there advantages, yet sixaxis users seem to ignore theres and demand removal of the kb/m. You dont hear kb/m asking to fix the the advantages the controller has over them. All periphials work different and change the way the game is played. Get over it already, and learn to use your periphal of choice advantage over the others.

Now, again, we have tons of people chiming in with more solutions in search of a problem. Cap it this way, gimp it that way, separate the the gun crosshair from the viewport! That's a lot of code whose only purpose is to attack people who choose a certain input device.

Much like other whining posts, these posts miss the obvious truth: If X is clearly superior, everybody would be using X.

Keyboards and mice combos can be had for $20 dollars, and everyone's PS3 has USB ports. So why aren't more people using this little "I Win" button?

But furthermore, assuming the KB/M is a superior controller choice(many top players would disagree), why punish the player who wants to work hard and master it?

This is just another example of people who don't want to put effort in the game trying to cripple those who want to improve their performance.

The real solution for this is to give players a proper control panel for input. Acceleration curves, joystick deadzones, bindings, turn speed, etc. Let everyone customize their own variables to maximize their effectiveness with their controller choice.

Any other solution will just result in more attempts by CCP to tweak the controls on the behalf of players, and more threads in response to the changes because, surprise, one size does not fit all.