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E-Rock
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Posted - 2015.04.07 23:11:00 -
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Many of the games that I have gotten into take extremely long, often in excess of 5 minutes to usually get scottied shortly there after. I have also been scottied repeatedly while in squad while trying to find a match, then will get put into a battle pulled out and put back in often with half the people in my squad DC'ing. Many times people back out of battles for a few reasons, i suspect.
Being put in matches that have already started. I have seen this over and over since the matchmaking has started. When a really good team is going against another really good team and one of them already has a majority of the objectives, people tend to back out because the other team has a tactical advantage. ***POSSIBLE SOLUTION*** HAVE THE WARBARGES ON BOTH SIDES FILL UP WHILE MERCS WAIT IN THE WARBAGE. #bringbackthewarbarge (would be great if the map layout could be seen before the battle starts as well so that teams could organize attacks) i'd propose that once the teams are filled that there is a one minute countdown until boots on the ground. If your metrics, Ratatti, are correct then once the game is full with a well matched 16v16 then, and only then should there be a penalty for backing out. Then problems I suspect that you will run into with this is people disconnecting from the game, fatal errors, or just not connecting in general. THAT cannot be punished and is a part of the game that is so common that I think that you will find it hard to punish people for. I for one would be quite angry if i was punished for disconnecting...
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E-Rock
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Posted - 2015.04.08 12:20:00 -
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CCP AquarHEAD wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:Update on the mini-match making update. I am unimpressed.
My day consisted of a single match of 7 vs 14, which devolved to 4v14 then 3v13 and of course then it only me versus the pond scum you threw at me. A full squad dropping Maddy v.0 and ADS while tossing their meager, lone warbarge gas bag fluff and missing not only me but my droplink.
[Deleted all I really wanted to say]
Off to Dark Souls, where death has more meaning. KR Checked the battle record, seems a common issue that big squads left right in the beginning because someone DCed, and then the battle cannot be balanced anymore, this issue cannot be fixed solely by matchmaking itself, but as I'm monitoring the active pub battle list, I can see there're way more full battle ongoing all the time, so I'm sure if you try more, you'll find yourself in full battles most of the time.
yeah, but we are losing our player base from not being able to get into matchs or constantly being DC'd or scottied
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.08 12:31:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:E-Rock wrote:Many of the games that I have gotten into take extremely long, often in excess of 5 minutes to usually get scottied shortly there after. I have also been scottied repeatedly while in squad while trying to find a match, then will get put into a battle pulled out and put back in often with half the people in my squad DC'ing. Many times people back out of battles for a few reasons, i suspect.
Being put in matches that have already started. I have seen this over and over since the matchmaking has started. When a really good team is going against another really good team and one of them already has a majority of the objectives, people tend to back out because the other team has a tactical advantage. ***POSSIBLE SOLUTION*** HAVE THE WARBARGES ON BOTH SIDES FILL UP WHILE MERCS WAIT IN THE WARBAGE. #bringbackthewarbarge (would be great if the map layout could be seen before the battle starts as well so that teams could organize attacks) i'd propose that once the teams are filled that there is a one minute countdown until boots on the ground. If your metrics, Ratatti, are correct then once the game is full with a well matched 16v16 then, and only then should there be a penalty for backing out. Then problems I suspect that you will run into with this is people disconnecting from the game, fatal errors, or just not connecting in general. THAT cannot be punished and is a part of the game that is so common that I think that you will find it hard to punish people for. I for one would be quite angry if i was punished for disconnecting... I like this idea esspecaily being able to see the map before being on it. Once deployed are the maps random? Asking because once you deploy you the the battle details such as attacker/denffender and security stattus (still not sure what that means) so when you get depoyed is the map picked or is it just before the maps shows up?
totally. it would bring back the warbarge and that you'll be able to set up some sort of strategy for the game. The huge hologram thing in the warbage could be the map that you are playing on perhaps. slot machines in the warbarge. fix the tram!!! #bringback thewarbage. All the SSD users get to see the battle list before we non-SSD users.
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-Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.08 12:37:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Initial feedback for last 24 hours. Fuller battles, running solo as well as in a squad. Hopefully those guys with poor experiences see improvement if they try some more.
I have 102 million SP and it takes me forever to find a match and my guys have not been getting into matches. Half the team being put the game while the others wait for deployment and can't get in. It's broken for me.
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.08 14:29:00 -
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CCP AquarHEAD wrote:M1tch Rapp wrote:
Overall it seems better to me. People just need a bigger carrot to keep pushing for the win. No telling how much easier this matchmaking dream would come true for you guys if people were playing like they are properly motivated.
Thanks, but I think it's unfair to blame our players too much, there're indeed issues with some related systems, what I also want to say is we're aware of them and have been thinking of fixing them, one by one.
I am getting scottied and getting pulled into battles that I am not trying to get into play the game from 15 seconds - 5 minutes and getting pulled out of match. I am losing suits and getting little pay in wallet for these matches that a botched. This is a huge disappointment and is making people not want to play the game and turing the game off. Would be great if new mechanics were tested before they were released...
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.08 14:56:00 -
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The KTM DuKe wrote:E-Rock wrote:CCP AquarHEAD wrote:M1tch Rapp wrote:
Overall it seems better to me. People just need a bigger carrot to keep pushing for the win. No telling how much easier this matchmaking dream would come true for you guys if people were playing like they are properly motivated.
Thanks, but I think it's unfair to blame our players too much, there're indeed issues with some related systems, what I also want to say is we're aware of them and have been thinking of fixing them, one by one. I am getting scottied and getting pulled into battles that I am not trying to get into play the game from 15 seconds - 5 minutes and getting pulled out of match. I am losing suits and getting little pay in wallet for these matches that a botched. This is a huge disappointment and is making people not want to play the game and turing the game off. Would be great if new mechanics were tested before they were released... Cant you just relog and see if the problem still exist? Sometimes it happens.
i have and it does. I'm turning off the PS3, turning it back on, logging into Dust, and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. Did this for 45 minutes and I done> It's nearly 12am here in Tokyo and sleep beckons. What a waste of a booster...
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-Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 00:48:00 -
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CCP AquarHEAD wrote:E-Rock wrote:
... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ...
Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose?
O k so the situation is as follows. I will be in a squad of 6, often with many of us having high SP. We will be queued by the squad leader into, for, example Skirmisk and Ambush. If we don't get into a match, we will have been waiting about 6 minutes before being scottied for the first time. We will then try to queue up the search again (there are a few things that happen here and where I am having huge problems with the game and the main crux of what I am complaining about).
We will get scottied repeatedly. Often with the time, for the brief second that it is up reading "Estimated time to deployment 00:57" before scottied the entire squad. This will repeat over and over again. We will switch squad leaders, we will wait, and then, with the squad be queuing for a game that none of the squad leaders queuing for, in the case that I am describing, we would be pulled into a Domination match. The squad will be pulled into the battle and anywhere from 5 seconds into the match until almost 5 minutes where my squad and I will be removed from the game and then we will be pulled back into the merc quarters. When this happens my team will be repeatedly pulled in a pulled out of battle. We have tried switching squad leaders, resetting our systems, switching servers, even singing guitar songs to Scotty but it is all for naught because in all these circumstances, even when we all reset our systems, and log back in and get to the merc quarters, we will continue to be pulled into battles that we ultimately get removed from, losing suits, vehicles, and weapons that we were using at the time. I have been doing a lot of faction warfare to avoid this where the competition is non existent, not rewarding in regards to ISK, and generally not as fun as the public matches I have played before.
To be fair, when all 16 players on both side start at the same time and fight it out, they are very good games. It's just a shame that I can only say that about a 5 games that I have played since April 1st. I am playing more PC and FW than pubs these days and it is reflecting in the relative emptiness of my merc's wallet...
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 00:56:00 -
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The KTM DuKe wrote:CCP AquarHEAD wrote:E-Rock wrote:
... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ...
Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? I think he log in and without start queing he deploys in a game
yes. this is exactly what happens
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 03:27:00 -
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CCP AquarHEAD wrote:E-Rock wrote:
O k so the situation is as follows. I will be in a squad of 6, often with many of us having high SP. We will be queued by the squad leader into, for, example Skirmisk and Ambush. If we don't get into a match, we will have been waiting about 6 minutes before being scottied for the first time. We will then try to queue up the search again (there are a few things that happen here and where I am having huge problems with the game and the main crux of what I am complaining about).
We will get scottied repeatedly. Often with the time, for the brief second that it is up reading "Estimated time to deployment 00:57" before scottied the entire squad. This will repeat over and over again. We will switch squad leaders, we will wait, and then, with the squad be queuing for a game that none of the squad leaders queuing for, in the case that I am describing, we would be pulled into a Domination match. The squad will be pulled into the battle and anywhere from 5 seconds into the match until almost 5 minutes where my squad and I will be removed from the game and then we will be pulled back into the merc quarters. When this happens my team will be repeatedly pulled in a pulled out of battle. We have tried switching squad leaders, resetting our systems, switching servers, even singing guitar songs to Scotty but it is all for naught because in all these circumstances, even when we all reset our systems, and log back in and get to the merc quarters, we will continue to be pulled into battles that we ultimately get removed from, losing suits, vehicles, and weapons that we were using at the time. I have been doing a lot of faction warfare to avoid this where the competition is non existent, not rewarding in regards to ISK, and generally not as fun as the public matches I have played before.
To be fair, when all 16 players on both side start at the same time and fight it out, they are very good games. It's just a shame that I can only say that about a 5 games that I have played since April 1st. I am playing more PC and FW than pubs these days and it is reflecting in the relative emptiness of my merc's wallet...
Ah... I would say it's some dirty corners in the battle system, our GM and QA had noticed some weird bugs a long time ago, but it's so hard to find a solution or sometimes even reproduce the bug... Speaking of matchmaking, if you squad up with really really high skill players, then unless there's an equally good squad queueing at the same time, it's doomed to find a battle, because we cannot find 2 balanced teams with enough players... Can you try solo? Is it better?
No. **** that. I personally take offense to that coming from a dev. I was going to cut into you AquarHead, but I erased all of scathing remarks... I have always played this game having a full squad for a myriad of reasons. Would you like me to list some? 1) A well organized squad can single handedly win a skirmish. No question. If you say I'm wrong, your squading with unorganized one or your squad in just terrible 2) Squading with people is a lot of fun. It creates comradeship in your team. 3) Team work is extremely effective in battle 4) this game DC'd people so much that I want to have some people with me in the event that 1 or 2 players gets DC'd, ect. The list goes on, there are no disadvantages to running a squad.
I feel that a bunch of the really crappy players that have no corp, no friends, no tactics complain to you devs endlessly that they are facing proto all the time or using some other BS excuse for why they suck and you nerffed matchmaking for these people that don't know how to play, use the same scrub tactics over and over, get countered, a whine and cry when they repeatedly get killed, and can't see this game for what it is: a tactical wargame that requires dicipline, situational awareness, some skill, and a thrist to win a ****ing game that a lone Ramboesqe mercenary cannot win. Now I'm being told to play solo?!?! Is this guy serious?
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 06:56:00 -
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CCP AquarHEAD wrote:E-Rock wrote:this game for what it is: a tactical wargame that requires dicipline, situational awareness, some skill, and a thrist to win a ****ing game that a lone Ramboesqe mercenary cannot win. Now I'm being told to play solo?!?! Is this guy serious? So as a diciplined group, do you want to stomp players which are much lower skills than you or you want to fight a similarly diciplined group, at least we don't want the former one to happen.
Ohh. I agree fully. I can stomp one way or another though, it doesn't really matter to me. I just want to get into a game, man. I, and the other not get pulled in and out of battle with no reward at all and losing suits to no one and losing isk. I imagine that you guys know how messed up the matchmaking is and that's why the next event is focused on FW instead of pubs. It starts in a few hours and now everyone with be q syncing so you probably won't be hearing much about that from me after that. I just hope that this problem is fixed after the event is over...
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 09:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:E-Rock wrote:CCP AquarHEAD wrote:
Ah... I would say it's some dirty corners in the battle system, our GM and QA had noticed some weird bugs a long time ago, but it's so hard to find a solution or sometimes even reproduce the bug...
Speaking of matchmaking, if you squad up with really really high skill players, then unless there's an equally good squad queueing at the same time, it's doomed to find a battle, because we cannot find 2 balanced teams with enough players... Can you try solo? Is it better?
No. **** that. I personally take offense to that coming from a dev. I was going to cut into you AquarHead, but I erased all of scathing remarks... I have always played this game having a full squad for a myriad of reasons. Would you like me to list some? 1) A well organized squad can single handedly win a skirmish. No question. If you say I'm wrong, your squading with unorganized one or your squad in just terrible 2) Squading with people is a lot of fun. It creates comradeship in your team. 3) Team work is extremely effective in battle 4) this game DC'd people so much that I want to have some people with me in the event that 1 or 2 players gets DC'd, ect. The list goes on, there are no disadvantages to running a squad. I feel that a bunch of the really crappy players that have no corp, no friends, no tactics complain to you devs endlessly that they are facing proto all the time or using some other BS excuse for why they suck and you nerffed matchmaking for these people that don't know how to play, use the same scrub tactics over and over, get countered, a whine and cry when they repeatedly get killed, and can't see this game for what it is: a tactical wargame that requires dicipline, situational awareness, some skill, and a thrist to win a ****ing game that a lone Ramboesqe mercenary cannot win. Now I'm being told to play solo?!?! Is this guy serious? He was just saying that there might be a fault somewhere in the battle system. He also said said that because there are just so few players available, it's hard to find a balanced match based on the squad you're in if you happen to be with vets in your squad. Have you tried squading up with other players of your tier and see you might get better matches? Also, he was just making a suggestion about going solo to give it a try. Nothing wrong with doing that. I have been going solo for a long time now and so far I have not had much problems with matchmaking recently with only some minor exceptions. However, it seems to me that there might be a problem with mid-tier players finding a good match. Players in the low and high tiers seem to have less problems compared to mid-tier. At least that's what me and one other player think so far.
That's all well and good but I'm a team player and running solo is not effective. I don't run solo and I understand what he was saying and I disagree with him. I like to win and I use the power of numbers to do so. I'm not gonna change my play style to play with scrubs. I'd rather go against the best of the best with my squad and win.
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 10:00:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Getting sick of the lopsided teams. I enjoy a challenge, don't get me wrong... but when games were actually filled out 16 vs 16. it was more fun. These 7 on 16 matches are sickening even though we won a few of them,, Games where the enemy ( or even your team) has twice the players SHOULD NOT EXIST, that's just wrong. Almost as wrong as the gambleboxes.
-Rom
As much as I hate to do it bc you're a beast with that min assault with my fibs, plasma cannon, and flaylock, I must agree.
Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇǵùѵ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½
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-Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.09 10:35:00 -
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Protected Void wrote:E-Rock wrote:CCP AquarHEAD wrote:E-Rock wrote:
... and getting pulled into battles that I haven't queued up for. ...
Not sure what you mean by this, is it like you joined Ambush when you only select only Domination? the ping? or your team always lose? O k so the situation is as follows. I will be in a squad of 6, often with many of us having high SP. We will be queued by the squad leader into, for, example Skirmisk and Ambush. If we don't get into a match, we will have been waiting about 6 minutes before being scottied for the first time. We will then try to queue up the search again (there are a few things that happen here and where I am having huge problems with the game and the main crux of what I am complaining about). We will get scottied repeatedly. Often with the time, for the brief second that it is up reading "Estimated time to deployment 00:57" before scottied the entire squad. This will repeat over and over again. We will switch squad leaders, we will wait, and then, with the squad be queuing for a game that none of the squad leaders queuing for, in the case that I am describing, we would be pulled into a Domination match. The squad will be pulled into the battle and anywhere from 5 seconds into the match until almost 5 minutes where my squad and I will be removed from the game and then we will be pulled back into the merc quarters. When this happens my team will be repeatedly pulled in a pulled out of battle. We have tried switching squad leaders, resetting our systems, switching servers, even singing guitar songs to Scotty but it is all for naught because in all these circumstances, even when we all reset our systems, and log back in and get to the merc quarters, we will continue to be pulled into battles that we ultimately get removed from, losing suits, vehicles, and weapons that we were using at the time. I have been doing a lot of faction warfare to avoid this where the competition is non existent, not rewarding in regards to ISK, and generally not as fun as the public matches I have played before. To be fair, when all 16 players on both side start at the same time and fight it out, they are very good games. It's just a shame that I can only say that about a 5 games that I have played since April 1st. I am playing more PC and FW than pubs these days and it is reflecting in the relative emptiness of my merc's wallet... The scenario above happened to me yesterday as well. It didn't stop until I logged into an alt and played a match on that. Then I could log back in on my main and have it queue properly. I was running solo, no squad.
If you have even squared*** squaded with me, you know that I will bust out guitar songs about the scrubs on the other side and they're funny. Ask BAMM HAVOK...
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-Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
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