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CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 4916	Posted - 2014.12.02 06:49:00 - [1] - Quote Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) CCP Frame

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4896	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:12:00 - [2] - Quote w00t. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 602	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:16:00 - [3] - Quote Thank god for fixing the exploit on supply depots. That should prevent scrubs from switching suits constantly to gain HP advantages in gunfights. Was fed up with twatts that used a assault suit just so they get low on HP and switch to a sentinel and vaporise you while having 100% health. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2096	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:20:00 - [4] - Quote Can finally speak about this! CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1336	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:30:00 - [5] - Quote Liking the communication increase. Now when things change in scope or priority, just post about it and bam, I think you are golden. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 15	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:30:00 - [6] - Quote A huge grand of Applause. Fantastic on taking our ideas and suggestions into account. 07 Ps3 power to the players lol love the daily mission's idea. And yay to the new EMP strikes ( destroying all spam equipment ) from all the lazy player's. A+ ccp ( love it )
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 439	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:31:00 - [7] - Quote not sure why the cal logi, who specializes in hives, the most costly of equipment, would have the lower bandwidth than gal and min logi. gal and min specialize in scanners and rep tools, and those items are not penalized with bandwidth at all.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2627	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:32:00 - [8] - Quote This....... This is going to change things quite substantially. Logistics have a higher max scan range than scouts.... Sentinels that have reasonable close in scan precision. OH GOD. I'm dampening everything. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 15	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: A huge grand of Applause. Fantastic on taking our ideas and suggestions into account. 07 Ps3 power to the players lol love the daily mission's idea. And yay to the new EMP strikes ( destroying all spam equipment ) from all the lazy player's. A+ ccp ( love it ) Now i just have to adapt to all the new changes ( again )
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 301	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:37:00 - [10] - Quote I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1699	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:37:00 - [11] - Quote The number of things on this list that made me scream out loud 'finally' is staggering. I thank you guys for this, but its so sad that it took this long for all the additions to the fitting screen to materialize. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2096	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:37:00 - [12] - Quote https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap For those that didn't notice the link in the DevBlog. Yes, you are reading that right for Febuary, the Uprising is over. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2235	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:40:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) really wish you had rolled out bandwidth later AFTER seeing the effect of the new orbitals. ALSO.. when will we be getting 2 genades for assault suits?! was a logibro post back dec 14th or something. #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5228	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:41:00 - [14] - Quote Quote: Players switching to a new dropsuit at Supply Depots will now inherit the shield and armor percentage from the former dropsuit to prevent exploits. A small thing, but a good thing. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 301	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:42:00 - [15] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Thank god for fixing the exploit on supply depots. That should prevent scrubs from switching suits constantly to gain HP advantages in gunfights. Was fed up with twatts that used a assault suit just so they get low on HP and switch to a sentinel and vaporise you while having 100% health. That is still entirely possible. This is njot about balance. This is because the slayer obsessed CPM complains that things like lag ruin their farming of noobs and uplinks placed high allow an enemy to have a fighting chance. So they want to make it so that me, a dedicated logi, can only place two uplinks, while they can still place a convenience one anywhere they want. So when you get into a uneven match, instead of having a dedicated logi placing uplinks to get out of the red line, youll have to walk out yourself. Instead of a cluster of mines taking out that LAV + HMG guy, he will be hyour problem. Instead of some crazy AV guy with remotes running up to the hull of a tank and exploding it, the tank will be able to go on unbothered. This is meant to stop people from deploying 50 nannohives at a supply depot. Instead of just making a exclusion radius, they decided to destroy an entire role. You wont notice any changes until you need a good spawn or supplies. you wont get any.
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2152	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:44:00 - [16] - Quote The main changes are the big nerfs to scout scan radius and range amplifiers. The Amarr scout will go back to lolsuit status, Gallente scouts will continue to dominate as shotgun and RE delivery systems.
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:48:00 - [17] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap For those that didn't notice the link in the DevBlog. Yes, you are reading that right for Febuary, the Uprising is over. Simple Trading GUYS HERE WE GO! Yes, I'm that desperate...
Pope Chester Ametat Security Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:49:00 - [18] - Quote Wtf is with those range nerds? Who was complaining about that?
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 20	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:49:00 - [19] - Quote Wait so by missions... Hold on, EPIC? This sounds better than khanid cereal in freshly thawed dairy! You mean story is finally being brought into dust, slavage gameplay and looting are upcoming, and in a couple months were looking at a new expansion with player trading, warbarges, and other awesomeness? Don't tease me, this really makes me want to recruit more ppl to this game even though my old recruits all quit playing. Its a shame I have to wait a week to see any of this happen
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2236	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:53:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) hey frame... Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: 2 GRENADES!!! ...There are no suits with two grenades.... Dated Nov 14. Where has CCP Logibro gone?! WHEN?! i want 2x grenade on assault suits! and logi suits! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]

Travis Stanush Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 201	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:54:00 - [21] - Quote OMG I am at work now trying to contain my nerdgasm now... Thanks CCP No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5230	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:56:00 - [22] - Quote Quote: - Major Warbarge Flux Strike: Impact Radius = 500m, War Point Cost = 3000 - Minor Warbarge Flux Strike: Impact Radius = 50m, War Point Cost = 300 - Major Warbarge Laser Strike: Impact Radius = 200m, War Point Cost = 5000 - Major Warbarge Strike: Impact Radius = 250m, War Point Cost = 4000 (This is the current Warbarge Strike) Did you really mean "Radius" or did you mean "Diameter"? 500m Radius has a Diameter of 1000m, which would cover the entire map from Red Line to Red Line. Even if you did mean Diameter rather than Radius, those numbers still seem a bit high. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
MrBlobz 97	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:57:00 - [23] - Quote Can flux strikes go through buildings? (>'o')> #RollinGold <('o'<)
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 603	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:58:00 - [24] - Quote The mission system is a 1 to 1 copy from the dayly challenges that where in COD black ops. You got COD points and XP if you accomplished those challenges. Like get 20 kills in a match etc. so not really a new thing there. However i would like to see elite missions which are harder to pull off like get a 10 k/d in a match or win a skirmis match without armor damage on your MCC. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Spaceman-Rob Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 630	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:59:00 - [25] - Quote What does this mean? "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful"
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1699	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:00:00 - [26] - Quote Achievements 1.0? If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1337	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:00:00 - [27] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: What does this mean? "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" It will be a dot versus a triangle that show what way a person is facing aka so a ninja can easily backstab ya. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 440	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:00:00 - [28] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: What does this mean? "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" you can't see what way they are facing, it will just be a dot now
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 484	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:01:00 - [29] - Quote Over all, not bad. Different colored LAZOORS! Are we getting more variants? There are only 5 in the market right now. Mlt, Std, adv, pro, officer. Ooooh 3 month roadmap! Corporation battles? nada on dropships / vehicles. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2837	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:03:00 - [30] - Quote Interesting. I am curious where Legion stands now though. It was a big thing that DUST was not getting anything new. Hotfixes were the name of the game. 1.9 had stuff that was previously worked on and was just being implemented. This stuff though... Bandwidth is entirely new, crates, daily missions, and new warbarge strikes? Makes me wonder if the child that was thrown from the crib when the new baby came about has gotten old enough to smother the screaming baby. But, let's stay positive! * Supply Depot change is interesting to me. It is like the removal of ISboxer in EVE; "it had been there so long I am surprised that it is being changed." I would have expected a hacking terminal or a delay rather than keeping HP percentages. Will definitely make Logistics a more defined role. A good change in my book. * More WP for guarding an objective. This one has some potential problems. It means that the Gallente Research Facility will be a total Warpoint ***** for whoever gets there first. With an entire squad guarding the area, you are talking about getting orbitals 25% faster. With current Warbarge Strikes going to cost 4,000, it is going to be a total massacre. Other than that, GREAT CHANGE! Pushes people into the objective and on the new Domination Fracture Road where ALL fighting happens within 50 meters of the point it is going to be some free WP. I like it. As Battlefield tells us: PTFO! * Enemy orientation will be missed but it is probably for the better. It allowed Scouts to sneak up on people a little bit too easily. However, it is going to make attacking locations swarming with Sentinels more difficult. We will have to see how this works out. * Bandwidth is a good idea. It was way too much of a free lunch to thrown equipment and swap suits. More focus on support players. * Daily missions could be cool. It might have people start trying out different gamemodes other than all Domination or Ambush. If the current SP amount stays and Boosters become "you cap faster" with the belief being that most people will not cap out without boosters, I would love to see Missions give out SP that puts you closer to cap modified by Boosters. It gives people so options. "You know, I have never done FW before but my Mission is 'earn 300 WP in 3 Faction Warfare Matches' for 10,000 SP so I guess I will try it out." * Crates are fine. CCP has had a little bit of a problem with how expensive things are recently. APEX suits and the After Battle Bonus are terrible value. I hope the Keys won't be overly priced. Of course, many people will not have a reason to use the Crates. If I open it up and get an Officer Plasma Rifle, it is worthless to me. In fact, more often than not loot will be useless other than for Jara. Basically: will not be used if there is zero player trading. * More information on the fitting screen is more better. The only thing I can say is "Why the hell did it take so long?!" * New Warbarge Strikes are the big one for me. I noticed that Small Laser was not there. I remember that this was mentioned on the forums like a year ago that different flavors would be for different things. If Small Laser "focused, high damage" it could be taking out a few goes on a small building or Railgun Sniper tank. Even ignoring the speculation, 300 WP for a 50 meter EMP is pretty damn cheap. I can see Shield Tanking becoming even less popular with the possible ubiquity of EMP dropping everywhere. Question though: is this WP cost going to deduct from my total WP? Because "I would love to call in that EMP to take out their equipment guys but that costs me 6,000 SP!" I assume it is just "You have 3,000 WP in your Squad. You can call in 10 small EMP or 1 big one." Definitely interesting in the end. Again, "Whatever happened to Baby Legion?" "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1337	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:03:00 - [31] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: The mission system is a 1 to 1 copy from the dayly challenges that where in COD black ops. You got COD points and XP if you accomplished those challenges. Like get 20 kills in a match etc. so not really a new thing there. However i would like to see elite missions which are harder to pull off like get a 10 k/d in a match or win a skirmish match without armor damage on your MCC. I would personally like to see racial missions, so as a logi, I have a harder logi mission but greater reward. Mission level, easy, hard, insane then scale the reward based on what level you pick. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 235	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:03:00 - [32] - Quote Awesome!!!!!!!! Needs more exclamations "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
SILENT GIANT FATHERS-AND-SONS 183	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:04:00 - [33] - Quote Damn.... I like what I just read! If someone complains about all the hard work that has been put into this game lately, slap them! I for one have been pleased with my experience around here and in game. Keep up the good work!
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1126	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:10:00 - [34] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap For those that didn't notice the link in the DevBlog. Yes, you are reading that right for Febuary, the Uprising is over. dear diary: Christmas came early this year
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 20	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:14:00 - [35] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: The mission system is a 1 to 1 copy from the dayly challenges that where in COD black ops. You got COD points and XP if you accomplished those challenges. Like get 20 kills in a match etc. so not really a new thing there. However i would like to see elite missions which are harder to pull off like get a 10 k/d in a match or win a skirmish match without armor damage on your MCC. Nobody cares about cod. Dust with missions I care about and so what if it starts as based off something else. We've got an agent, now we're gonna have missions, it's like maybe a step away from having agents that you get missions from and maybe some kind of career based paths with different missions based on your role, and thats an EVE thing so sit back and rejoice
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 512	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:17:00 - [36] - Quote Can't wait for Uprising 1.10! I'm also excited for the next release and for the possibility of platoons being added. If you want any suggestions for a title of the next release, what do you think of Escalation? It would pretty much imply the rising power of the immortal mercenaries.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5231	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:19:00 - [37] - Quote hold that wrote: not sure why the cal logi, who specializes in hives, the most costly of equipment, would have the lower bandwidth than gal and min logi. gal and min specialize in scanners and rep tools, and those items are not penalized with bandwidth at all. This is just one of many issues which will continue to be debated regarding the Bandwidth system. The introduction of Bandwidth is a big and positive step forward in my opinion, but there will have to be additional tweaks made before we get it right. That being said, I think we will do a better job of tweaking it once we have some hands on experience with it, so lets wait and try it out in-game, reach informed opinions, and meet back here on the forums in about 3 weeks for a thread of constructive feedback. Agreed? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5949	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:19:00 - [38] - Quote I know what I'm going to be playing over holiday leave. Too bad the wifi in the barracks is ****. You would think the signal corp, out of all the corps, would have decent wifi. pé¦pé½péªpâêpü»püäpüäpüêpéÆF¿Çpüúpüƒn+ƒ pü»püäpéÆF¿Çpüúpüªpâ¬péñpâòpâ½n+ü
Jebus McKing Jebus Hates Scans 1150	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:19:00 - [39] - Quote Are we still getting the Assault suit profile buff to 45db? You have been scanned
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1700	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:19:00 - [40] - Quote Now that we've got most the stats on our suit on the fitting screen, could we get a weapon fitting screen added? Show the effect of damage mods, suit skills (Assaults and Commandos), and weapon skills. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...

Pope Chester Ametat Security Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:23:00 - [41] - Quote Why would anyone remain a scout with those scan nerfs?

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12587	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:26:00 - [42] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: hold that wrote: not sure why the cal logi, who specializes in hives, the most costly of equipment, would have the lower bandwidth than gal and min logi. gal and min specialize in scanners and rep tools, and those items are not penalized with bandwidth at all. This is just one of many issues which will continue to be debated regarding the Bandwidth system. The introduction of Bandwidth is a big and positive step forward in my opinion, but there will have to be additional tweaks made before we get it right. That being said, I think we will do a better job of tweaking it once we have some hands on experience with it, so lets wait and try it out in-game, reach informed opinions, and meet back here on the forums in about 3 weeks for a thread of constructive feedback. Agreed? Man, those are obviously reversed in the patch notes... "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12587	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:29:00 - [43] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Are we still getting the Assault suit profile buff to 45db? yes, needs adding to patch notes "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 442	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:29:00 - [44] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: hold that wrote: not sure why the cal logi, who specializes in hives, the most costly of equipment, would have the lower bandwidth than gal and min logi. gal and min specialize in scanners and rep tools, and those items are not penalized with bandwidth at all. This is just one of many issues which will continue to be debated regarding the Bandwidth system. The introduction of Bandwidth is a big and positive step forward in my opinion, but there will have to be additional tweaks made before we get it right. That being said, I think we will do a better job of tweaking it once we have some hands on experience with it, so lets wait and try it out in-game, reach informed opinions, and meet back here on the forums in about 3 weeks for a thread of constructive feedback. Agreed? Edit* cool, the patch notes are reversed
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5233	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:30:00 - [45] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal This is a well-constructed argument. In the week or two following the release of 1.10 see if you can adapt, and if not, then find the Bandwidth feedback threads and post your argument again, augmented by the personal experience with the new system you have earned in the field. I think you make some good points, and I think the Bandwidth system will have to be tweaked again before they get it right. Just because it is going live in its current form does not mean those stats are final in the long term. Bandwidth is not intended as an overall nerf to Logi. If it ends up making Logi less viable compared to other suits, then the system will be tweaked accordingly. DonGÇÖt give up hope for your class. Help guide Rattati to the light. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4779	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:37:00 - [46] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal This is a well-constructed argument. In the week or two following the release of 1.10 see if you can adapt, and if not, then find the Bandwidth feedback threads and post your argument again, augmented by the personal experience with the new system you have earned in the field. I think you make some good points, and I think the Bandwidth system will have to be tweaked again before they get it right. Just because it is going live in its current form does not mean those stats are final in the long term. Bandwidth is not intended as an overall nerf to Logi. If it ends up making Logi less viable compared to other suits, then the system will be tweaked accordingly. DonGÇÖt give up hope for your class. Help guide Rattati to the light. Agreed. Overall it's going to be a plus. It may need tweaking, but there is a ton of potential for benefit to dedicated logi's. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Dreis Shadowweaver T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 790	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:37:00 - [47] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap For those that didn't notice the link in the DevBlog. Yes, you are reading that right for Febuary, the Uprising is over. My PS3 can't load it... Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1338	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:37:00 - [48] - Quote When will vehicles get some love again? still missing tons of content that was removed. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Nirwanda Vaughns 1007	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:37:00 - [49] - Quote Very impressive. i hope things pan out well but the daily missions and strong boxes sound a great idea. i guess we get strongboxes as salvage but have to use a decryptor to open them? Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5235	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:42:00 - [50] - Quote Greiv Rabbah wrote: Wait so by missions... Hold on, EPIC? This sounds better than khanid cereal in freshly thawed dairy! You mean story is finally being brought into dust, slavage gameplay and looting are upcoming, and in a couple months were looking at a new expansion with player trading, warbarges, and other awesomeness? Don't tease me, this really makes me want to recruit more ppl to this game even though my old recruits all quit playing. Its a shame I have to wait a week to see any of this happen Edit: saw the missions and strongboxes pictures. Would like more variation in the missions, but for now this is really awesome. i hope branching from this that we may see sleeper drones(they could use the old super aggressive turret installation ai) because although I want mtacs, i know a lot of ppl that would be pulled in by questing, player trading, and pve. anyway really really aqesone stuff I feel the need to try to control your expectationsGÇª Read the missions in the image. Calling these GÇ£missionsGÇ¥ might be overstating what they are a little bit. They are more like GÇ£challengesGÇ¥. But still a good step in the right direction. I see the "missions" and "salvage" as trying to emulate the Gameplay experience they intend for Legion, in DUST, as best they can given DUST's current limiting structure. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1037	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:44:00 - [51] - Quote Quote: - Gallente/Minmatar Logistics: STD/ADV/PRO = 20/28/36 - Amarr/Caldari Logistics: STD/ADV/PRO = 16/24/32 Is this an error where Am/Cal were supposed to be the high Mb/s and Gal/Min were low. Am/Cal Logis are deployable based whereas Gal/Min as active based: having the deployable based Logis with higher Mb/s makes more sense. Quote: * Range Amplifiers now add 15% range This is entirely contextless: Is that 15%/level for the skill? Is that basic RAs are 15%? Would this also mean a 10% reduction for higher tiers making it a 15/25/35 progression instead of 25/35/45? Is that all RAs are 15% with no progression? I'm assuming the second, which I feel would make the close range passive scans as pointless as the base numbers suggest. Currently, I'm loving most things in this set of patch notes, but the Close scans are almost pointless except for Scouts. Even a Logi with RA5 (7.5) and three CxRAs (@45%: 18.88) will still have a pretty meh scan range: a shotgun scout covers that distance in a second before blowing your head off anyway. I think it's a great step, its just that the only viable EWar suits look to be Scouts, with the occasional Logi working - an Assault or Commando with 3 CxRA (15.11) has about a second to react to a scout, assuming they aren't dampened mildly, costing you even more slots. Essentially, I estimate little change happening except that some EWar Scouts will pick up some other Scouts and that everyone will pick up Heavies from further away: the fitting sacrifice to get a half decent Close range is enormous, and the fitting to get a still bad Normal precision is enormous (and won't change.) I think it's a good step, but the scans will only tell you what you already know: that you've either already been engaged, or murdered, by someone. The penalty to far range scans mean you'll almost never pick up anything but heavies. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 84	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:44:00 - [52] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) hey frame... Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: 2 GRENADES!!! ...There are no suits with two grenades.... Dated Nov 14. Where has CCP Logibro gone?! WHEN?! i want 2x grenade on assault suits! and logi suits! Are people talking about grenade capacity being at 2 or being able to have 2 different grenades. My Gallente Assault Suit has a 2 grenade capacity.
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3198	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:50:00 - [53] - Quote roadmap... roadmap...? ...ROADMAP???????? Today, pigs are flying. faints EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 302	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:51:00 - [54] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: This is a well-constructed argument. In the week or two following the release of 1.10 see if you can adapt, and if not, then find the Bandwidth feedback threads and post your argument again, augmented by the personal experience with the new system you have earned in the field. I think you make some good points, and I think the Bandwidth system will have to be tweaked again before they get it right. Just because it is going live in its current form does not mean those stats are final in the long term. Bandwidth is not intended as an overall nerf to Logi. If it ends up making Logi less viable compared to other suits, then the system will be tweaked accordingly. DonGÇÖt give up hope for your class. Help guide Rattati to the light. John Demonsbane wrote: Agreed. Overall it's going to be a plus. It may need tweaking, but there is a ton of potential for benefit to dedicated logi's. Im pretty skeptical. The ideologies are too conflicting. The concept of bandwidth is to limit deployed equipment, but as a good logi, I see that as limits to what I can do. If all my bandwith is locked up in my uplink with a remote mine in top, how am I going to put proxys down? Its like I have 3 choices: -Place my uplinks and REs as i usually do, and do nothing about the unguarded rear of the bridge, which a HAV or LAV will certainly roll up on -Decide to place the proxy mines and forfeit the "elastic front line" I had just set up -Carry both proxies and my uplink gear, but have significantly less of both and consequently, do a half assed job on both parts that doesnt really get anything done or is not nearly as effective. Right now, my only limits are time and enemy fire. If I cant beat both I can deploy a reinforced supply chain that is durable enough to withstand setbacks. After this patch thats prettymuch over. Everyones solution is prettymuch to just "rep and repair". But that takes away from me developping my own strategies and just leads to me propping up someone elses operation. I play almost exclusively solo.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5235	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:55:00 - [55] - Quote MrBlobz wrote: Can flux strikes go through buildings? They would impact on the roof, as Orbitals do now... but the blast radius on the impact would likely operate like a flux grenade, which does penetrate walls. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Dauth Jenkins Titans of Phoenix 567	Posted - 2014.12.02 16:59:00 - [56] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: Thank god for fixing the exploit on supply depots. That should prevent scrubs from switching suits constantly to gain HP advantages in gunfights. Was fed up with twatts that used a assault suit just so they get low on HP and switch to a sentinel and vaporise you while having 100% health. That is still entirely possible. This is njot about balance. This is because the slayer obsessed CPM complains that things like lag ruin their farming of noobs and uplinks placed high allow an enemy to have a fighting chance. So they want to make it so that me, a dedicated logi, can only place two uplinks, while they can still place a convenience one anywhere they want. So when you get into a uneven match, instead of having a dedicated logi placing uplinks to get out of the red line, youll have to walk out yourself. Instead of a cluster of mines taking out that LAV + HMG guy, he will be hyour problem. Instead of some crazy AV guy with remotes running up to the hull of a tank and exploding it, the tank will be able to go on unbothered. This is meant to stop people from deploying 50 nannohives at a supply depot. Instead of just making a exclusion radius, they decided to destroy an entire role. You wont notice any changes until you need a good spawn or supplies. you wont get any. ill still be dropping good spawns, and hives wherever they are needed. seriously, lets calm down. its abit early to complain about changes that havnt been implemented yet. also, if you spec into them, you can drop less, and get the same amount of work done. for example, 1 hive from my caldari logi is worth almost 2 of the same dropped by another suit. same thing with my ammar logi, and links. And, to be honest, the only people who dont complain about lag are the AFKers. You don't have to be shooting to feel its effects, especially when it gets bad. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 773	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:02:00 - [57] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: Thank god for fixing the exploit on supply depots. That should prevent scrubs from switching suits constantly to gain HP advantages in gunfights. Was fed up with twatts that used a assault suit just so they get low on HP and switch to a sentinel and vaporise you while having 100% health. That is still entirely possible. This is njot about balance. This is because the slayer obsessed CPM complains that things like lag ruin their farming of noobs and uplinks placed high allow an enemy to have a fighting chance. So they want to make it so that me, a dedicated logi, can only place two uplinks, while they can still place a convenience one anywhere they want. So when you get into a uneven match, instead of having a dedicated logi placing uplinks to get out of the red line, youll have to walk out yourself. Instead of a cluster of mines taking out that LAV + HMG guy, he will be hyour problem. Instead of some crazy AV guy with remotes running up to the hull of a tank and exploding it, the tank will be able to go on unbothered. This is meant to stop people from deploying 50 nannohives at a supply depot. Instead of just making a exclusion radius, they decided to destroy an entire role. You wont notice any changes until you need a good spawn or supplies. you wont get any. As a dedicated Logi, I think you're being overly dramatic. Sure I have droplink suits, and nanohive suits. And I'll still be able to use them. When I drop the gear, it won't pop just because I switch to a different logi suit, it will only pop when I exceed the bandwidth of that suit. So, I can still run around and drop links, switch to my general usage suit and still rep, scan, repair... whatever. Let's see how it plays out before you rage.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2457	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:03:00 - [58] - Quote Will decrypting the gear be 100% successful or will there be some kind of chance mechanic?
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5235	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:06:00 - [59] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Interesting. I am curious where Legion stands now though. It was a big thing that DUST was not getting anything new. Hotfixes were the name of the game. 1.9 had stuff that was previously worked on and was just being implemented. This stuff though... Bandwidth is entirely new, crates, daily missions, and new warbarge strikes? Makes me wonder if the child that was thrown from the crib when the new baby came about has gotten old enough to smother the screaming baby. But, let's stay positive! 1) The R&D budget is likely still all going into Legion. 2) Dust is likely paying its own way. You can probably thank those people running around in Quafe suits for the nice stuff we get now. 3) All of the stuff being added are working round the base framework of DUST. They are doing some amazing things with workarounds. But the base framework of DUST is flawed and limited, which is why Legion is a complete rebuild from the ground up. In many ways Legion will look like DUST, but with a better foundation to build on. Daily Missions and Salvage Boxes are being bought in to bring DUST closer to the experience they are designing in Legion. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1339	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:08:00 - [60] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Will decrypting the gear be 100% successful or will there be some kind of chance mechanic? The chance will most likely be how rare the find it is and how many. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4781	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:09:00 - [61] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Interesting. I am curious where Legion stands now though. It was a big thing that DUST was not getting anything new. Hotfixes were the name of the game. 1.9 had stuff that was previously worked on and was just being implemented. This stuff though... Bandwidth is entirely new, crates, daily missions, and new warbarge strikes? Makes me wonder if the child that was thrown from the crib when the new baby came about has gotten old enough to smother the screaming baby. But, let's stay positive! 1) The R&D budget is likely still all going into Legion. 2) Dust is likely paying its own way. You can probably thank those people running around in Quafe suits for the nice stuff we get now. 3) All of the stuff being added are working round the base framework of DUST. They are doing some amazing things with workarounds. But the base framework of DUST is flawed and limited, which is why Legion is a complete rebuild from the ground up. In many ways Legion will look like DUST, but with a better foundation to build on. Daily Missions and Salvage Boxes are being bought in to bring DUST closer to the experience they are designing in Legion. My guess is CCP finally realized they can inexpensively and efficiently carry over what they learn from Dust into Legion going forward so it would be stupid to stop development altogether. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5235	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:10:00 - [62] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: * Supply Depot change is interesting to me. It is like the removal of ISboxer in EVE; "it had been there so long I am surprised that it is being changed." I would have expected a hacking terminal or a delay rather than keeping HP percentages. Will definitely make Logistics a more defined role. A good change in my book. Might be worth having a Gallente Scout fit with all Armor Repair mods in the lows, just to switch to for a fast self repair. Then switch back to your combat suit. Not effective in combat, so should not be a problem, but useful if you are damaged, not under fire, and no one in the area has a Repair Tool or Rep NanoHive. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1339	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:13:00 - [63] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: * Supply Depot change is interesting to me. It is like the removal of ISboxer in EVE; "it had been there so long I am surprised that it is being changed." I would have expected a hacking terminal or a delay rather than keeping HP percentages. Will definitely make Logistics a more defined role. A good change in my book. Might be worth having a Gallente Scout fit with all Armor Repair mods in the lows, just to switch to for a fast self repair. Then switch back to your combat suit. Not effective in combat, so should not be a problem, but useful if you are damaged, not under fire, and no one in the area has a Repair Tool or Rep NanoHive. Yep, new strategy will be to have a rep suit, not as effective as suit swap so still deals with the instant full hp problem. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5235	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:14:00 - [64] - Quote Quote: Major Warbarge Strike: Impact Radius = 250m, War Point Cost = 4000 (This is the current Warbarge Strike) My first Clue was when I asked LogiBro to edit the WP amount for a Warbarge Strike in my locked Squad Leader guide and he changed it to 40,000 rather than 50,000. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 1044	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:17:00 - [65] - Quote Getting better and better. Great job guys!
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1039	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:18:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: hold that wrote: not sure why the cal logi, who specializes in hives, the most costly of equipment, would have the lower bandwidth than gal and min logi. gal and min specialize in scanners and rep tools, and those items are not penalized with bandwidth at all. This is just one of many issues which will continue to be debated regarding the Bandwidth system. The introduction of Bandwidth is a big and positive step forward in my opinion, but there will have to be additional tweaks made before we get it right. That being said, I think we will do a better job of tweaking it once we have some hands on experience with it, so lets wait and try it out in-game, reach informed opinions, and meet back here on the forums in about 3 weeks for a thread of constructive feedback. Agreed? Man, those are obviously reversed in the patch notes... NAILED IT. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior") Learning Coalition & RTG
Valor Goat 7	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:20:00 - [67] - Quote "* Added a Guardian War Point bonus, for every War Point earned within 50 meters from an Objective, an additional 25% War Points are granted." FINALLY! Amazing update! 1EE7
Poison Howl Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 166	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:44:00 - [68] - Quote My god, what is this warm, blinding light!? Is... is that hope!? ... Feels good man. The rage, insanity, and chaos I've seen people display in Dust makes me question how any of us function in society :/
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2524	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:47:00 - [69] - Quote What does it mean when "range amplifiers now add 15%" is this vehicle modules? dropsuit modules? I'm confused as there is a current tiered system for range amps now. ?
Monty Mole Clone Ametat Security Amarr Empire 253	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:51:00 - [70] - Quote since there is no possible reason at the moment to know the total meta lvl of a fitted suit this is intriguing "Meta level of Items is now shown in the Marketplace, and the Meta level of Fittings as well, being the sum of of all Gear on the Dropsuit (including the Dropsuit) as well." for future change maybe? all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others goebbels would be proud

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2415	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:51:00 - [71] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal This is how I feel about the Amarr and Cal logis, Rattati. You really should change their bandwidth, and do it soon so they could actually be of use. Why do they have lower bandwidth than the two suits that don't have bonuses to deployable equipment? This really doesn't make sense. I'll post my own reply. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 607	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:53:00 - [72] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: What does it mean when "range amplifiers now add 15%" is this vehicle modules? dropsuit modules? I'm confused as there is a current tiered system for range amps now. Its a random number that the monkey threw the dart onto the spreadsheet. What it does, where it will do it nobody knows until its actually in the game. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5236	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:54:00 - [73] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: I think it's a good step, but the scans will only tell you what you already know: that you've either already been engaged, or murdered, by someone. The penalty to far range scans mean you'll almost never pick up anything but heavies. Which still makes long range scans very useful! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Tweaksz Algintal Core Gallente Federation 124	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:54:00 - [74] - Quote Rattati you glorious bastard! I have shed 1 manly tear of joy in your honor. Pill Popping Madness!
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3956	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:59:00 - [75] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. This is how I feel about the Amarr and Cal logis, Rattati. You really should change their bandwidth, and do it soon so they could actually be of use. Why do they have lower bandwidth than the two suits that don't have bonuses to deployable equipment? This really doesn't make sense. I'll post my own reply. It's been said earlier in the thread, but apparently those numbers were reversed. It was the first thing that popped out to me in the patch notes, because I recall the earlier discussion about Amarr/Caldari having the bandwidth "bonus" comparatively. Dren&Templar Tragedy.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 912	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:01:00 - [76] - Quote Some form of trophies ('"achievements") are on the trello board. Some kind of battle field ribbon/medals? The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Middas Betancore Fatal Absolution 236	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:13:00 - [77] - Quote My god there's so much...want to give feedback but dont know where to begin How youve done so much with little time and resources is truly astounding Knew you could recover from fanifest if u tried GG CCP GG CPM 0-1 GG Constructive Community Feedback "Deploy the gas, we'll burn what's left"- Redacted
Vesta Opalus Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 212	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:13:00 - [78] - Quote This patch is rad, thanks CCP for being pretty cool guys lately. Scan range module seems a little crappy at 15%, but Ill wait until I play with it some to complain too much P.S. edited to also agree that the bandwidth values seem to be backwards for min/gal vs. amar/cald, even though the amar/caldari seem to have more bandwidth per slot, given the nature of equipment it seems like they should just have more bandwidth period.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2527	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:16:00 - [79] - Quote Also what is the bandwidth of an uplink? ?
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 5237	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:16:00 - [80] - Quote https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap Quote: Next Release 1.0 Should that read "Next Release 2.0"? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Nirwanda Vaughns 1007	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:21:00 - [81] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal This is how I feel about the Amarr and Cal logis, Rattati. You really should change their bandwidth, and do it soon so they could actually be of use. Why do they have lower bandwidth than the two suits that don't have bonuses to deployable equipment? This really doesn't make sense. I'll post my own reply. would be nice if the equipment operation skills helped reduce bandwidth usage too as well as boosting attributes of the equipment itself. rep tool op increase range 2% per level ect, this would help non min logis with a bit extra range whilst also helpin gmin logi further by increasing the range more over others. active scanner could take one of the gal logi skills to boost it, perhaps the 10% scan duration and give the gal logi a +5 degree scan angle per level instead to make it more versatile Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 549	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:28:00 - [82] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Im pretty skeptical. The ideologies are too conflicting. The concept of bandwidth is to limit deployed equipment, but as a good logi, I see that as limits to what I can do. If all my bandwith is locked up in my uplink with a remote mine in top, how am I going to put proxys down? Its like I have 3 choices: -Place my uplinks and REs as i usually do, and do nothing about the unguarded rear of the bridge, which a HAV or LAV will certainly roll up on -Decide to place the proxy mines and forfeit the "elastic front line" I had just set up -Carry both proxies and my uplink gear, but have significantly less of both and consequently, do a half assed job on both parts that doesnt really get anything done or is not nearly as effective. Right now, my only limits are time and enemy fire. If I cant beat both I can deploy a reinforced supply chain that is durable enough to withstand setbacks. After this patch thats prettymuch over. Everyones solution is prettymuch to just "rep and repair". But that takes away from me developping my own strategies and just leads to me propping up someone elses operation. I play almost exclusively solo. The bandwith is not to limit all equipment. It's to limit non-Logi equipment. To make the Logi more useful at a role that a scout could have done semi-decently in older versions. (In fact, I made a "ghetto Logi" on my Minmatar alt by using a basic light suit to carry two equipment pieces, as the basic medium doesn't provide the same easy entry into the Logi role, for whatever reason. Why the hell is the Light suit a better entry into the Logi role than Medium? This seems like a major NPE oversight.) Naturally, this could be used to weaken the Logi. But I hope that it's utilized to strengthen the role instead and give it more definition.
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 1106	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:32:00 - [83] - Quote Hnnnngggggg!!! So much good stuff coming out. This is seriously the biggest patch this game has had in so long..... Am I...... Happy? Is this what hope feels like? O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2415	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:33:00 - [84] - Quote The CRU and uplink should have better precision. The range is fine, but they need better precision. Doesn't have to be a lot more, but a little more. Maybe 32 dB. What demand is there for showing loyalty rank? I haven't seen a single post about it on the forums at all, but I rarely go on to feedback and discussions, so I don't know if all those posts are in that section. I don't get the circle passive scans at all. I agree with the dropsuit change at a depot. I'm not an abuser, but I'll switch quickly if someone shows up and I'm not using a sufficient suit. I also agree with the scan profile for deployed equipment. But........... the Amarr and Caldari logistics should have much higher bandwidth than the Minmatar and Gallente logistics suits. How are they supposed to fulfill their role when they don't have as much bandwidth as the two suits whose bonus doesn't apply to deployed equipment? This really doesn't make sense to me and boggles my mind. The enemy orientation was screwed up for some time, as some would have the circle and triangle, and others would show a chevron on the minimap. Don't really mind the orientation change much, as I have two scouts and will get Min scout to 5 soon. As far as adding attributes to the fitting screen, we used to have that a long time ago, including the damage bonus when adding damage mods. I don't remember when that was removed, or why. Could you post the bandwidth of equipment? I would assume the scanner and rep tools won't have any, which again, makes no sense as they're not deployed equipment. I'm a Gallente logi, so my bonus isn't for nanohives or uplinks. I'm not affected by it, but the Amarr and Caldari suffer greatly for having lower bandwidth at all tiers. This really needs to be changed ASAP. The new warbarge strikes need some changing. The current strike doesn't seem to have a 250m radius. It seems more like 50m. And it is 5000 WP, not 4000. It was doubled from 2500. The high powered one, I would assume the major laser strike, has far too big a radius. That one should be 25m or 30m, not 50. It would be great for taking out a tank, or two that are too close together. That's about its only use. The major flux strike has far too big a radius. That should be cut down to 100m or so, as rooftops aren't very big. The minor flux is fine, but I don't see the point in having two flux strikes. I remember you saying they wouldn't be as much WP, so dunno why the laser strike is 5000 WP. Major flux strike should be 2500 WP instead of 3000, or maybe less, since it can't destroy suits or vehicles. 1500 or 2000 seems like a fair number. Minor is about right. So essentially, the heavy suits have the highest passive scan range, while the scout has the lowest? This really doesn't make any sense, and you also posted the heavy suits twice, with the first set of values being higher than the second. Why? And what do you mean by range amps adding 15%? Are you going to knock off the ADV and PRO, and refund the extra SP used to obtain the ADV and PRO mods? Don't really care about the lockboxs, as anybody with 5mil SP and over already knows enough to contribute, so those will very easily be obtained. It'll be really easy to obtain multiple, if not half of those in one battle for me. I think it should be tiered by hours played, not SP, because people could log in daily and have passive SP active, but not play on a second account, rather than a second character slot. I see a lot of good ideas, but most of them need to be changed. The Amarr and Caldari logis are supposed to able to do their jobs, and not be hampered by how much of their own equipment they could put down. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2415	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:14:00 - [85] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: * More information on the fitting screen is more better. The only thing I can say is "Why the hell did it take so long?!" We used to have that before the Chromosome build. No idea why it was removed. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1703	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:18:00 - [86] - Quote I said purple laser beam! ** yeah scorch crystals! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 378	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:25:00 - [87] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap Quote: Next Release 1.0 Should that read "Next Release 2.0"? I think the next release bit is a placeholder for a release name like; Dominance 1.0 or Thinghymebob 1.0 GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 464	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:26:00 - [88] - Quote faints
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 22	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:31:00 - [89] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: roadmap... roadmap...? ...ROADMAP???????? Today, pigs are flying. faints ccp's laser focused on the road map.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2173	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:34:00 - [90] - Quote Missions? Strong boxes? A ROADMAP!?!?!! We shall praise the name of Rattati to the highest Amarr mass, and to the lowest Minmatar tribal council! I Live for Tears

Mr Machine Guns 954	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:38:00 - [91] - Quote For the equipment bandwidth shouldn't the cal and amarr logis have the highest bandwidth and not the gal and min plus CCP Rattati said here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490&find=unread that Cal and Amarr will have the highest but reading the notes it saying gal and min will have the highest bandwidth which makes no sense, since Amarr and Cal logi bonuses are appiled to uplinks and nano hives while the gal and min logis bonuses are appiled to equipment that will not be effected by bandwidth.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4912	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:50:00 - [92] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap Quote: Next Release 1.0 Should that read "Next Release 2.0"? Nope. It is the 1.0 of the Next Release. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Z3R0 GR4VITY Red Star. EoN. 411	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:51:00 - [93] - Quote CCP, please re-introduce the old restocking method, at least as an option. Thank you. "Oh yeah, well where did you buy your clothes, the toilet store?"
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 378	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:54:00 - [94] - Quote lights pipe and grabs brandy Well, t'is the time of the season, it seems. This is all very kind of you gents. GÇó Daily achievements is absolutely dandy, this also means there is a visual counting mechanism in place now, i don't need to tell you people what this can mean for Events. If this be soGÇª jolly good. GÇó Is there a Minor Laser strike? Or am i missing something in my enthusiasm. GÇó I do hope this Encrypted Strongbox mallarky is not going to pull a "cryptarch" on me when i'm paying for it. GÇó Purple laser beams, this is a good thing because of obvious reasons. GÇó I read Warbarges, which is more than oneGÇª and i read it on a ROADMAP no less. GÇó I read "Simple Trading" and knocked over my brandy, that would be marvelous. Overall you flipped my wig today. For that you have my thanks contently sucks on pipe and reads it all again GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2397	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:59:00 - [95] - Quote 1.10 looks great! Can't wait to see how it plays out. A roadmap? You guys have outdone yourselves. BRAVO!!!
CharacterNameWasTaken 307	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:26:00 - [96] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal didnt you ever go to school and try to complain that a feipd trip waa canceled because of a few kids doing something wrong? That is exactly whats happening to logis a few bad applaes ruined the bunch and now all logis suffer. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
poison Diego Titans of Phoenix 505	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:32:00 - [97] - Quote are you going to update the EWAR spreadsheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j0uAKk-PtFUgV62QANDe0lJ02Ukc-jQuhcLdwhG4J1Q/edit#gid=0 could you please so it is possible to verify exactly what would be the most benefiting? Tilgangur lífsins? . Hvernig sem litið er á það þá er Nýja Eden bara byrjunin.
poison Diego Titans of Phoenix 505	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:35:00 - [98] - Quote Mr Machine Guns wrote: For the equipment bandwidth shouldn't the cal and amarr logis have the highest bandwidth and not the gal and min plus CCP Rattati said here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490&find=unread that Cal and Amarr will have the highest but reading the notes it saying gal and min will have the highest bandwidth which makes no sense, since Amarr and Cal logi bonuses are appiled to uplinks and nano hives while the gal and min logis bonuses are appiled to equipment that will not be effected by bandwidth. Absolutely agree. The situation for the 3-slot logis is getting worse every day. Tilgangur lífsins? . Hvernig sem litið er á það þá er Nýja Eden bara byrjunin.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4782	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:39:00 - [99] - Quote poison Diego wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: For the equipment bandwidth shouldn't the cal and amarr logis have the highest bandwidth and not the gal and min plus CCP Rattati said here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490&find=unread that Cal and Amarr will have the highest but reading the notes it saying gal and min will have the highest bandwidth which makes no sense, since Amarr and Cal logi bonuses are appiled to uplinks and nano hives while the gal and min logis bonuses are appiled to equipment that will not be effected by bandwidth. Absolutely agree. The situation for the 3-slot logis is getting worse every day. Oh Lord.... It's a typo for chrissake. Pro tip: Clicking on the blue "Dust Dev" flag on a dev's forum avatar will take you to the next Dev post. You people are killing me. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
JONAHBENHUR WarRavens Capital Punishment. 57	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:39:00 - [100] - Quote you do realize that the logi bonus for cal/amar is to drop equipment right? and now you have killed the point of combat versatility and play counter play "To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu

Dauth Jenkins Titans of Phoenix 568	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:53:00 - [101] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: poison Diego wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: For the equipment bandwidth shouldn't the cal and amarr logis have the highest bandwidth and not the gal and min plus CCP Rattati said here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490&find=unread that Cal and Amarr will have the highest but reading the notes it saying gal and min will have the highest bandwidth which makes no sense, since Amarr and Cal logi bonuses are appiled to uplinks and nano hives while the gal and min logis bonuses are appiled to equipment that will not be effected by bandwidth. Absolutely agree. The situation for the 3-slot logis is getting worse every day. Oh Lord.... It's a typo for chrissake! Pro tip: Clicking on the blue "Dust Dev" flag on a dev's forum avatar will take you to the next Dev post in that thread. You people are killing me. WHAT!!! It does that! -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
shaman oga T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 3349	Posted - 2014.12.02 20:57:00 - [102] - Quote I have not clear how Trello works, do we have to post something or is just there to view? Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
Orchi Aizen THE DESTROYERS AMONG DEATH 91	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:04:00 - [103] - Quote Wooooooooo YYYYYAAA. WO WO WO WO WO WO WO WO WO.Alright,I cannot wait for those solo Orbitals.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 381	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:10:00 - [104] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I have not clear how Trello works, do we have to post something or is just there to view? DevBlog: A shared Feedback and Requests Trello board (read only) where you can see that the community ideas are being collected; grouped and evaluated; possibly lined up for a Hotfix; and eventually live. So read only GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1354	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:25:00 - [105] - Quote Changing colors of lazors? Do i predict a shield rep tool coming from this? (Change the beam color on regular rep tools from yellow to blue.) Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4916	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:34:00 - [106] - Quote JONAHBENHUR wrote: you do realize that the logi bonus for cal/amar is to drop equipment right? and now you have killed the point of combat versatility and play counter play There is a mistake in the patch notes. It's known about. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
cris bleu Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 11	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:36:00 - [107] - Quote Wow, wasn't expecting this when I came home from work today. Good stuff, I'm looking forward to seeing how the ewar changes & bandwidth introduction work out in practice. I do understand some of the apprehension from fellow logis but I think our role is going to be enhanced.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17937	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:39:00 - [108] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I have not clear how Trello works, do we have to post something or is just there to view? Trello is equivalently a post it note board of sorts with a very strict historical tracker. These are just headline post its were then you can attach more postits beneath each list or topic. The roadmap is pretty simple for now and likely will remain that way allowing CCP to flex around with how to answer and tell those stories and epics as development progresses. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4928	Posted - 2014.12.02 21:58:00 - [109] - Quote Barring some misnomers I think this will go over really well Strongboxes will need to be finely tuned so that they are nothing like the experience of getting **** loot after having spent the resources to open the box up. Be cool if it gave you choices of what you could pick...maybe just choose out of a few options like heavy medium light or weapon armor module...something there so that you are getting something you wanted. Daily mission have so much potential. yay roadmap is awesome. glad everyone is now privy to much of the behind the curtain discussions. good stuff the concentric circles thing is a start. it'll be a good case study to see how it plays out. bandwidth could be a blessing if it's actually efficacious enough. obviously the marr and cal are inverted. the biggest decision is how many proto links a person can spam before hitting cap. the harder the cap the less spam a single person can do and the more valuable logi's are (assuming they can go 250% more than scouts) the CRU passive scans yum yum swapping at depots fixed! equipment passive scan I think will be owrthless because 35 is so low. I almost liek the idea of active scanners being a special tool that is far better than passive scans at finding them. In the current iteration a long range scan from a cal is gonna pick them up at 40m with a precision or 2. Same with logi's. I think this will need to be revisited. Overall, so much to like here. Great work CCP! Founder & CEO Fatal Absolution** Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought Strive. No mattter what
NoExsplosionsMgee Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 303	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:01:00 - [110] - Quote http://a.pomf.se/mc63t.gif PRAISE THE SUN!! \ \|Gö¼\|' /

poison Diego Titans of Phoenix 505	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:22:00 - [111] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: poison Diego wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: For the equipment bandwidth shouldn't the cal and amarr logis have the highest bandwidth and not the gal and min plus CCP Rattati said here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490&find=unread that Cal and Amarr will have the highest but reading the notes it saying gal and min will have the highest bandwidth which makes no sense, since Amarr and Cal logi bonuses are appiled to uplinks and nano hives while the gal and min logis bonuses are appiled to equipment that will not be effected by bandwidth. Absolutely agree. The situation for the 3-slot logis is getting worse every day. Oh Lord.... It's a typo for chrissake! Pro tip: Clicking on the blue "Dust Dev" flag on a dev's forum avatar will take you to the next Dev post in that thread. You people are killing me. Well excuse me that I didnt read all 5 pages of comments. I actually have something else to do with my time... Tilgangur lífsins? . Hvernig sem litið er á það þá er Nýja Eden bara byrjunin.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4791	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:30:00 - [112] - Quote poison Diego wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: poison Diego wrote: Mr Machine Guns wrote: For the equipment bandwidth shouldn't the cal and amarr logis have the highest bandwidth and not the gal and min plus CCP Rattati said here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490&find=unread that Cal and Amarr will have the highest but reading the notes it saying gal and min will have the highest bandwidth which makes no sense, since Amarr and Cal logi bonuses are appiled to uplinks and nano hives while the gal and min logis bonuses are appiled to equipment that will not be effected by bandwidth. Absolutely agree. The situation for the 3-slot logis is getting worse every day. Oh Lord.... It's a typo for chrissake! Pro tip: Clicking on the blue "Dust Dev" flag on a dev's forum avatar will take you to the next Dev post in that thread. You people are killing me. Well excuse me that I didnt read all 5 pages of comments. I actually have something else to do with my time... Hence the pro tip. Saves a lot of time. (Also, I'm not singling you out. You were simply the last of 5 people who kept saying the same thing) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
poison Diego Titans of Phoenix 505	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:36:00 - [113] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: equipment passive scan I think will be owrthless because 35 is so low. I almost liek the idea of active scanners being a special tool that is far better than passive scans at finding them. In the current iteration a long range scan from a cal is gonna pick them up at 40m with a precision or 2. Same with logi's. I think this will need to be revisited. Honestly zatara I think 35 db is good because now there will still be a role for scout to fulfil. Since now the scouts wont be the significant slayers anymore it will still be crusial to have them in the team to neutralise hidden equipment and place them. Tilgangur lífsins? . Hvernig sem litið er á það þá er Nýja Eden bara byrjunin.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 451	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:36:00 - [114] - Quote "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
hfderrtgvcd 1417	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:46:00 - [115] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. As a long time scout, htfu and use your eyes. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Thang Bausch Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 262	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:00:00 - [116] - Quote what is the bandwidth cost of drop uplinks? (That's currently missing from the patch notes)
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1037	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:19:00 - [117] - Quote o7 Very impressive, I must say. I like the look of that roadmap, kudos. Yep
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2631	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:28:00 - [118] - Quote Overall I love these changes. I love the process CCP Rattati used to get feedback to help guide the process. I have some concerns about the specifics with the Ewar changes (e.g. I have some Amarr Scout "scout hunter" fits that may become fairly useless), but I have faith in CCP Rattati that we can iterate on these as we go. With the multiple rings, at least we have the framework to make changes--an excellent starting point. I'm also concerned about the lock boxes. This is a bit pay-to-win-esque, and is really flirting with that line. If this goes down like in Guild Wars 2, then you'll have many more boxes than "keys." this results in a massive oversupply in the market and they sell for next-to-nothing. The result is you can buy tons of officer gear for AUR (assuming they put officer gear in boxes). What makes officer gear work well is that they are exceedingly rare. The loot box mechanic has the possibility of destroying that balance, especially if we get trading (which seems to be on the roadmap). The big fear is that drop rates could start out reasonable, but guys in the business office could be tempted to play with the numbers later to boost revenue. We'd never know about these changes until the market becomes flooded with boxes. I'd prefer if we avoided these altogether. The thing I'm most excited about though is the roadmap. It's not so much the content in it (which I expect to change), but the fact that we have one. This is a RADICAL change in communication from the Shanghai team, in a very good way! Great job CCP, and the CPM1 guys! Best PvE idea ever!
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 445	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:52:00 - [119] - Quote I don't know how to respond to this but I'm WOW. I'm impressed. New OB = YES. Sadly I won't get this play this week since I have to study for finals but no worries If I have free time then I will play a bit on FW for the event and hopefully next week probably Sunday :D I'm looking forward to this >:D MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Pope Chester Ametat Security Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:58:00 - [120] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. As a long time scout, htfu and use your eyes. I have no using my eyes. I have a problem spacing into EWAR when I have only 8 mil so and now it's worthless

hfderrtgvcd 1420	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:05:00 - [121] - Quote Pope Chester wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. As a long time scout, htfu and use your eyes. I have no using my eyes. I have a problem spacing into EWAR when I have only 8 mil so and now it's worthless How does removing directional arrows make ewar useless? You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Major IMPACT Titans of Phoenix 35	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:14:00 - [122] - Quote Could add descriptions for the Trello board- https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap , would be helpful on what you are planning to do. Does it mean that we have to wait until the next update for the Warbarges (before battles) comes back? Really missed that feature, as it would help the player experience, not just to look at suits but to join squads, etc. GÇ£The man who is swimming against the stream knows the strength of it.GÇ¥ - Woodrow Wilson
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 445	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:14:00 - [123] - Quote I'm looking at the things they'll be working on for Uprising 1.0 and I was Simple Trading = WOW. Battle Quality = ooooohh must be good. Then Uprising 1.1 Salvage gameplay = Mmmmm sounds very interesting. New Maps = >:D yes !!!! Backlog. Raiding planet = Not sure what that means but cool. District resources = 1+ and it would help PC a lot. One thing that caught my eye on the Uprising 1.10 notes was this " Without divulging too much, the next order of business is to improve Planetary Conquest as the gameplay feature all players should aspire to play." PC shouldn't just be for the pro players, it should be available to EVERYONE. That's why we play Dust 514 to capture planets not to see who has the best gear in the game like really. Keep up the good work. :) MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1387	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:17:00 - [124] - Quote Ermahgerd did you say better visuals!?!?!?! Yas i like that. On the Viziam Scrambler can i haz the red laz0r projectiles or any colour?I would love that Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 445	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:18:00 - [125] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Ermahgerd did you say better visuals!?!?!?! Yas i like that. On the Viziam Scrambler can i haz the red laz0r projectiles or any colour?I would love that ooooo red laser = >:D I agree. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1121	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:36:00 - [126] - Quote You're finally starting to turn this game into what it should have been all along. An anti-shield prox mine would be great in the future. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 3063	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:40:00 - [127] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: Thank god for fixing the exploit on supply depots. That should prevent scrubs from switching suits constantly to gain HP advantages in gunfights. Was fed up with twatts that used a assault suit just so they get low on HP and switch to a sentinel and vaporise you while having 100% health. That is still entirely possible. This is njot about balance. This is because the slayer obsessed CPM complains that things like lag ruin their farming of noobs and uplinks placed high allow an enemy to have a fighting chance. So they want to make it so that me, a dedicated logi, can only place two uplinks, while they can still place a convenience one anywhere they want. So when you get into a uneven match, instead of having a dedicated logi placing uplinks to get out of the red line, youll have to walk out yourself. Instead of a cluster of mines taking out that LAV + HMG guy, he will be hyour problem. Instead of some crazy AV guy with remotes running up to the hull of a tank and exploding it, the tank will be able to go on unbothered. This is meant to stop people from deploying 50 nannohives at a supply depot. Instead of just making a exclusion radius, they decided to destroy an entire role. You wont notice any changes until you need a good spawn or supplies. you wont get any. We don't get any now because they are all at the supply depot. Also, did you not pat attention to the scan profiles of equipment? They are going to be harder to find - meaning they will be used for what they are intended, not as traps. Go cry somewhere else - this is a lag fix that 90% of the community wanted - lag doesn't effect only one part of the map, it effects the full map. And yes I have played logi, and yes I know this restricts things for logi, but it's good for the overall health of the game, which is more important than your exaggerated response to the changes being made. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12647	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:40:00 - [128] - Quote To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 445	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:56:00 - [129] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. Players and I are having issues of "No battles in the game." Hopefully you guys are fixing this. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 356	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:59:00 - [130] - Quote As usual in every single updates you do there are many great things (all these things about scans, missions, depot, etc.), but they are all the time screwed up by ONE thing. And this time, it's this bandwidth system. I wish you could open your eyes, play the game for real and remove this idea before it's too late.. You will destroy useful player's experience with that sh*t. Let me explain why with a basic example: At the beggining of a Dom/Skirm, I go with a minlogi filled with kincats/regs and proxies. I put my 15 proxies on the ground to make sure that the tank dies on it. Then I change my suit at the depot because it's useless for combat. I usually go for uplinks, put them in good places, and then switch to my assault suit. This way I can provide good spawns for my team, and do a great AV job with the proxies. I didn't spam at all, I just used the equipment that are needed to win. Now with the new bandwidth system, I could only put my 15 proxies, and then be stuck in my suit, or another logi not made for combat. I couldn't use the uplinks I skilled in or the nanohives I maxed too. I'll be FORCED to play with my logi suit, by taking a great care NOT USING MY EQUIPMENTS! Or others will disapear! I hope this example (among many others) shows you how broken the system is, and how it must NOT be implemented. We don't need it, the game has many flaws but not this one. It will not change anything about lags. If 3 players put 6 nano on the ground each, it'll still lag bandwidth or not. If you want to decrease lags, don't break the game and buy new servers. TL;DR Don't implement the Bandwidth system as it'll break useful player's experience and won't reduce lags. Logistic role has many aspect using different types of equipments, this will stick him to one purpose the whole match... Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be. Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.

DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:18:00 - [131] - Quote In regards to equipment bandwidth, if I deploy nanohives with my logi and later switch to my assault those nanohives may blow up because my equipment bandwidth is now reduced? ....any change to Caldari Assault bonus? ...."cough"....change to 5% reduction of kick and charge time of rail/hyrid weapon per level "cough" Overall, a lot of good changes
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 518	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:21:00 - [132] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: As usual in every single updates you do there are many great things (all these things about scans, missions, depot, etc.), but they are all the time screwed up by ONE thing. And this time, it's this bandwidth system. I wish you could open your eyes, play the game for real and remove this idea before it's too late.. You will destroy useful player's experience with that sh*t. Let me explain why with a basic example: At the beggining of a Dom/Skirm, I go with a minlogi filled with kincats/regs and proxies. I put my 15 proxies on the ground to make sure that the tank dies on it. Then I change my suit at the depot because it's useless for combat. I usually go for uplinks, put them in good places, and then switch to my assault suit. This way I can provide good spawns for my team, and do a great AV job with the proxies. I didn't spam at all, I just used the equipment that are needed to win. Now with the new bandwidth system, I could only put my 15 proxies, and then be stuck in my suit, or another logi not made for combat. I couldn't use the uplinks I skilled in or the nanohives I maxed too. I'll be FORCED to play with my logi suit, by taking a great care NOT USING MY EQUIPMENTS! Or others will disapear! I hope this example (among many others) shows you how broken the system is, and how it must NOT be implemented. We don't need it, the game has many flaws but not this one. It will not change anything about lags. If 3 players put 6 nano on the ground each, it'll still lag bandwidth or not. If you want to decrease lags, don't break the game and buy new servers. TL;DR Don't implement the Bandwidth system as it'll break useful player's experience and won't reduce lags. Logistic role has many aspect using different types of equipments, this will stick him to one purpose the whole match... Then if it causes any problems, CCP will fix them. There's no need to get so upset.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1032	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:25:00 - [133] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. Requested SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 356	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:28:00 - [134] - Quote I am upset because there's all the time something to ruin everything else, something that is definitely wrong before beeing released, that we all know will not improve the game, but still they will implement it and will have to fix and lose time to balance it even though it's not needed. Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be. Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 40	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:35:00 - [135] - Quote Now with the new bandwidth system, I could only put my 15 proxies, and then be stuck in my suit, or another logi not made for combat. I couldn't use the uplinks I skilled in or the nanohives I maxed too. I'll be FORCED to play with my logi suit, by taking a great care NOT USING MY EQUIPMENTS! Or others will disapear! I think this is a great point and maybe proxies and remote explosives should be immune from equipment bandwidth. Or be reclassified but stay in the equipment slot (contact grenades?) Bandwidth makes sense for uplinks and nanohives because of the advanced technology they use to create matter Scanners, needles, rep tools also make some sense under this bandwidth umbrella Remotes and proxy technology is practically stone age stuff in comparison.
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2631	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:39:00 - [136] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: As usual in every single updates you do there are many great things (all these things about scans, missions, depot, etc.), but they are all the time screwed up by ONE thing. And this time, it's this bandwidth system. I wish you could open your eyes, play the game for real and remove this idea before it's too late.. You will destroy useful player's experience with that sh*t. Let me explain why with a basic example: At the beggining of a Dom/Skirm, I go with a minlogi filled with kincats/regs and proxies. I put my 15 proxies on the ground to make sure that the tank dies on it. Then I change my suit at the depot because it's useless for combat. I usually go for uplinks, put them in good places, and then switch to my assault suit. This way I can provide good spawns for my team, and do a great AV job with the proxies. I didn't spam at all, I just used the equipment that are needed to win. Now with the new bandwidth system, I could only put my 15 proxies, and then be stuck in my suit, or another logi not made for combat. I couldn't use the uplinks I skilled in or the nanohives I maxed too. I'll be FORCED to play with my logi suit, by taking a great care NOT USING MY EQUIPMENTS! Or others will disapear! I hope this example (among many others) shows you how broken the system is, and how it must NOT be implemented. We don't need it, the game has many flaws but not this one. It will not change anything about lags. If 3 players put 6 nano on the ground each, it'll still lag bandwidth or not. If you want to decrease lags, don't break the game and buy new servers. TL;DR Don't implement the Bandwidth system as it'll break useful player's experience and won't reduce lags. Logistic role has many aspect using different types of equipments, this will stick him to one purpose the whole match... There is a simple solution. Build a slayer logi fit that you use when you want to preserve your equipment. When you don't want the equipment, play assault (you'll still keep some of it so use high quality stuff in good locations). If later you want equipment, switch back to logi and place more down. I've got Amarr logi 5 and love the bandwidth changes. I play similarly to you (though I don't do the mines), and now I'll have to be more tactical with my choices (but so will everyone else). I plan on making several logi fits for AV, slaying, repping/reviving etc. sure some won't be as good as dedicated fits, but they should still be decent and my team will be benefitting from the utility of my equipment. In some cases, this will be a major buff because my links won't be competing with other teammates spamming them and switching roles. Best PvE idea ever!
Sigourney Reever Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 56	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:45:00 - [137] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: ... ... One thing that caught my eye on the Uprising 1.10 notes was this " Without divulging too much, the next order of business is to improve Planetary Conquest as the gameplay feature all players should aspire to play." PC shouldn't just be for the pro players, it should be available to EVERYONE. That's why we play Dust 514 to capture planets not to see who has the best gear in the game like really. Keep up the good work. :) This would have to mean opening up some larger part of New Eden to Mercs, wouldn't it?
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1344	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:52:00 - [138] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. Very nifty idea, Rattati. just to be clear...we post a new "card" under the appropriate header and the feedback is noted or commented on over time by the Dev team, correct? Example: Under Equipment > Counter-Uplink > "create uplink variant that inhibits the use of deployed enemy uplinks within X area under Y conditions" Just want to make sure the rules of the road are clear. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 460	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:02:00 - [139] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: What does this mean? "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" you know that arrow that's infront of your dot.....its gone. scouts know have to chance it that your not faceing away from them. they know have to RISK attacking you. rather than seeing you on scan and going. oh hey his backs to me. time to stike in my brick tanked scout., *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4868	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:12:00 - [140] - Quote I'll take a break from Super Smash once it releases, then.

Kierkegaard Soren THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 564	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:20:00 - [141] - Quote Very happy with everything that's been put forward for release thus far. All I'll add to this is that commandos seem to be getting the short end of the EWAR stick; worse precision than a standard heavy and functionally incapable of fitting EWAR modules without crippling my tank (mainly regen as the suits obviously have inherent high HP). Since EWAR is going to become an aspect of the game that all classes of suits must account for I feel like I'm getting locked out automatically with no realistic way of adapting to the changing game. If the suit isn't going to have reasonable EWAR capabilities built in (a bit much to ask) then please consider upping the slot count to allow the suit to fit EWAR modules and not hamstring themselves completely in the process. But those war barge strikes. Jesus. The flux one is going to make gunlogi pilots scream. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Gold-Lion Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:50:00 - [142] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) Missions. Roadmap. Encrypted Strongboxes. DOES THIS FINALLY MEAN PVE?
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 446	Posted - 2014.12.03 05:01:00 - [143] - Quote Gold-Lion wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) Missions. Roadmap. Encrypted Strongboxes. DOES THIS FINALLY MEAN PVE? In the future uprising's I did see Salvage gameplay and Salvage districts. This could possible be the PVE and the SPECIAL CONTRACTS just below the Corp contracts. If its true then = OMG. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12679	Posted - 2014.12.03 05:07:00 - [144] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. Very nifty idea, Rattati. just to be clear...we post a new "card" under the appropriate header and the feedback is noted or commented on over time by the Dev team, correct? Example: Under Equipment > Counter-Uplink > "create uplink variant that inhibits the use of deployed enemy uplinks within X area under Y conditions" Just want to make sure the rules of the road are clear. Yes exactly. I am actually thinking of sharing our collection so players can browse what we already have. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5477	Posted - 2014.12.03 05:15:00 - [145] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. This addresses the thread I just made, thank you! I'll quote this post in it. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 518	Posted - 2014.12.03 06:25:00 - [146] - Quote I can't see the roadmap on my Android phone while I can see it on my computer. Any particular reason why?
Ghural WarRavens Capital Punishment. 354	Posted - 2014.12.03 06:57:00 - [147] - Quote Regarding the trello board. Is it possible to include more detail? No need to go into specifics, but it would be handy to have something more informative than "warbarges" for example, as we can't comment on something we know so little about. Even if it is something along the lines of "racial warbarges" or "new gameplay for warbarges".
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 451	Posted - 2014.12.03 07:48:00 - [148] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Pope Chester wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. As a long time scout, htfu and use your eyes. I have no using my eyes. I have a problem spacing into EWAR when I have only 8 mil so and now it's worthless How does removing directional arrows make ewar useless? Try to attack anyone from front a few times to understand it. If you do not understand such fundamental things you are stacked scout that think that he is a scout. PS I'm not part of community crying on forum that direction arrows is too powerful, they will have to htfu because now instead of '250' scouts they will have speed-shielded assaults with 600-700hp . Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Ramux PATAPON LORD-BRITISH Couedic Lancer And Shields 32	Posted - 2014.12.03 09:44:00 - [149] - Quote Translated into Japanese. http://ramuxumar.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-114.html Translating DUST News into Japanese.. so quickly like Scout suits.. @FPSholicsDiary
Evan Gotabor Prima Gallicus 117	Posted - 2014.12.03 09:59:00 - [150] - Quote Will vehicles scanners be shared to the whole team or squad only ? (it's becoming tiring to ask this every-time, but this need an answer). I ask this, because outside spotting targets for a gunner in a dropship, there are few to none reasons to use vehicle scanners, even in PC. Eve 21 day Trial Dust 514 win 5M ISK for 100.000WP


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12709	Posted - 2014.12.03 09:59:00 - [151] - Quote Ramux PATAPON wrote: Translated into Japanese. http://ramuxumar.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-114.html Amazing, thanks so much for that! "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 23	Posted - 2014.12.03 11:14:00 - [152] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) hey frame... Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: 501st Headstrong wrote: 2 GRENADES!!! ...There are no suits with two grenades.... Dated Nov 14. Where has CCP Logibro gone?! WHEN?! i want 2x grenade on assault suits! and logi suits! I want a 3rd equipment slot on my scout. And a 2nd sidearm. And/or the option to run with a hmg. That'll do pig. That'll do.
Skybladev2 LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 135	Posted - 2014.12.03 11:41:00 - [153] - Quote Can you make a description inside Trello cards or insert links to related forum topics? Because just name of card does not always give enough information about the feature. <[^_^]>
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1344	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:34:00 - [154] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. What is ETA on getting approved? I applied 22 hours ago. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
iKILLu osborne Titans of Phoenix 495	Posted - 2014.12.03 15:42:00 - [155] - Quote any chance of addin the rest of the lp gear in 1.10 if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
poison Diego Titans of Phoenix 505	Posted - 2014.12.03 15:46:00 - [156] - Quote Rattati and co, could you update the EWAR spreadsheet please? so we know the final and definite numbers and can work my own fits and spreadsheet from that. Tilgangur lífsins? . Hvernig sem litið er á það þá er Nýja Eden bara byrjunin.
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo Northern Associates. 36	Posted - 2014.12.03 16:05:00 - [157] - Quote 1.10 Was out of nowhere, like s scout.
Brush Master Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1347	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:47:00 - [158] - Quote for Community Crowdsourcing Trello I would suggest adding a section where we can talk about installations/crus/depots. I see game modes but not much about maps. Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ? True Logi. Flying DS from the start. @dustreports
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC 87	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:56:00 - [159] - Quote Sounds very awesome. Now just counting down the days. Thanks CCP Gang. *ScReWeD uP InC* *Recruit BPO's*
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 581	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:24:00 - [160] - Quote Some Good Stuff, some not so much. Regardless, Thank You again, Dev Teams, for continuing to try to create and refine your arts and our universe. At this point the only real feedback I have on 1.10 is that Logi BW should be normalized across the races, we're already losing capability with BW being introduced at all, creating discrepancies between the class members as well just weakens the overall role further. YES, I should be able to drop with my Cal and rep with my Min without losing my equipment. The Cal bonus already disappears with the switch. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.

Ratticate Y.A.M.A.H 0	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:27:00 - [161] - Quote Looks like some very good work CCP, just some quick concerns As a dedicated Amarrian Commando the equipment bandwidth does not effect me much but it seems that it may make the Amarr and Caldari logi die out with the limited deploying capability they have. I sympathize for those logis that are crying out and not wanting this to happen but I do not want to take a definite stand until this actually releases. On a side note, as a laser rifler, I can not wait to see the color change to the beam (I always thought the yellow beam just seemed a bit dull.) A proud member of the Y.A.M.A.H. corporation, apply today to one of the fastest growing corps out there!
Dauth Jenkins Titans of Phoenix 571	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:36:00 - [162] - Quote Pope Chester wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. As a long time scout, htfu and use your eyes. I have no using my eyes. I have a problem spacing into EWAR when I have only 8 mil so and now it's worthless Thats how pilots felt after ADS was nerfed, and swarms were buffed. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 581	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:41:00 - [163] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: There is a simple solution. Build a slayer logi fit that you use when you want to preserve your equipment. Exactly. So, for those new to the convo, BW=SlayerLogis. We'll have a dropping fit and a slaying fit and after a day or two we'll combine them into one suit, a slayerlogi with some equipment, maybe. Ah, progress. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 581	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:54:00 - [164] - Quote Terry Webber wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: As usual in every single updates you do there are many great things (all these things about scans, missions, depot, etc.), but they are all the time screwed up by ONE thing. And this time, it's this bandwidth system. I wish you could open your eyes, play the game for real and remove this idea before it's too late.. You will destroy useful player's experience with that sh*t. Let me explain why with a basic example: At the beggining of a Dom/Skirm, I go with a minlogi filled with kincats/regs and proxies. I put my 15 proxies on the ground to make sure that the tank dies on it. Then I change my suit at the depot because it's useless for combat. I usually go for uplinks, put them in good places, and then switch to my assault suit. This way I can provide good spawns for my team, and do a great AV job with the proxies. I didn't spam at all, I just used the equipment that are needed to win. Now with the new bandwidth system, I could only put my 15 proxies, and then be stuck in my suit, or another logi not made for combat. I couldn't use the uplinks I skilled in or the nanohives I maxed too. I'll be FORCED to play with my logi suit, by taking a great care NOT USING MY EQUIPMENTS! Or others will disapear! I hope this example (among many others) shows you how broken the system is, and how it must NOT be implemented. We don't need it, the game has many flaws but not this one. It will not change anything about lags. If 3 players put 6 nano on the ground each, it'll still lag bandwidth or not. If you want to decrease lags, don't break the game and buy new servers. TL;DR Don't implement the Bandwidth system as it'll break useful player's experience and won't reduce lags. Logistic role has many aspect using different types of equipments, this will stick him to one purpose the whole match... Then if it causes any problems, CCP will fix them. There's no need to get so upset. I don't think you're realizing however that BW is an attempt at fixing a problem (spam that creates lag) that clearly creates problems but doesn't as clearly solve the problem it's supposed to address. And definitely doesn't solve the problem as clearly as other options to address said problem could have (limits around depots, action trackers, FF ON vs equip in all modes etc.) without also creating similarly detrimental side-effects. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Hyuan BubblePOP Uber Wanabes 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:18:00 - [165] - Quote fix the abuse players do @ supply depots when someones tries to hack it, the team with the supply depot can cancel the hack by accessing the supply depot. :(
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3957	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:22:00 - [166] - Quote As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. Dren&Templar Tragedy.
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2634	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:47:00 - [167] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: There is a simple solution. Build a slayer logi fit that you use when you want to preserve your equipment. Exactly. So, for those new to the convo, BW=SlayerLogis. We'll have a dropping fit and a slaying fit and after a day or two we'll combine them into one suit, a slayerlogi with some equipment, maybe. Ah, progress. I think most will have multiple fits. I don't have a problem with slayer logis. The "slayer logi issue" back in the day was they were better assaults than assaults suits. This is no longer the case, and therefore isn't a problem. Now you'll have the choice to drop lots of equipment and use that suit, or switch suits to 1. a slayer (or AV) fit that will be less effective than assault, but still provide excellent support for your team through equipment and is still a reasonably effective slayer; 2. a repper/revive fit to support team; 3. Sacrifice SOME equipment and switch to a lower BW suit like an assault if that is more useful to you, or 4. sacrifice all equipment and swap into a Sentinel. You can always switch back and drop more equipment if that becomes a priority. The point is you have many options, and with less equipment on the field, those that do run dedicated logi should see a significant buff to WPs since they're not competing with "tourist logis." This is an excellent change. Best PvE idea ever!
Rynx Sinfar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1303	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:48:00 - [168] - Quote Hi again. Feedback on the presentation like last time. This post is meant to get people excited for new content, get people logging in, etc etc. This image looks like the text was written by a developer to give someone a rough idea of the setup. For my own work I would send this to someone when asking for what they wanted the actual text to say. From the looks of it they wrote it in pretty quickly or they have a limited English vocabulary. Examples being bland names, poor grammar, inconsistent capitalization, and awkward phrasing. Do we win Skillpoints and Warpoints? I must be a big winner then because every two weeks I win money from my employer. I assume there is some sort of review before blog posts are made. Please review image text just as carefully. Do I really need to talk about properly reviewing official announcements to a company whose primary game groups players like businesses? I was very eager to see what kind of missions you would be offering and ended up re-reading them because I wasn't sure if I was looking at them right. Confusion is a nice way to dampen excitement. My confusion was from a mixture of several things: There are two different kinds of missions involving skillpoints, but the phrasing is extremely similar The awkward phrasing I mentioned made question if I was reading things wrong as other inconsistencies were found The posts are in a random order. Duplicate missions are separated where I would assume they would be grouped. Let's talk about the random order thing again. I also brought it up when you were showing game data regarding prototype rifles. Do you have a drawer for your silverware? Does this drawer have something in there so that there are separate places for knives, forks, and spoons? Do you just mix those up for fun? I keep feeling like you guys are walking into a store where there is a line, going next to a random person... and then you all just find random places in the store to just lay down on the ground. Why? You literally need to go against human nature for this disorganization. Tell you what. Go here and be happy among your people. I am assuming these are placeholder missions and that there will be more variety. If they aren't then... idk. Take drugs maybe. I don't advocate them but that is some watered down vanilla ice cream. It would essentially be categories of "play game", "play game lots", and "play a game good". But again I think these are placeholders. That said why would show us a screen with 7 examples but only 4 missions? Well 3.5 technically since the Skillpoint ones are pretty much identical. Did you not think we'd read the missions? Are these particular missions meant to be interesting? No destroying vehicles? No healing/reviving teammates? No assists? No point capture? No "Earn 300 WP while defending an objective"? You're including that feature! Highlight it! Lastly (and not something I take much issue with) is this image. While I am thrilled that when this releases in a week there will be reference material for where you can find it in your inventroy it isn't particularly exciting. What's it look like when you open it? Is there an animation? Some sense of anticipation? This image looks fun. A screen showing inventory is generally not. I know its only vanilla icecream in comparison but put some freaking sprinkles on it or something. Geez. Also some people may remark on my own grammar in light of my criticisms. Yes. You are correct. In fact the method I identify poor writing is by comparing it to my own. No one has ever said anything positive about my writing concerning its form. if I am identifying issues that you can be sure you do have issues.
Rynx Sinfar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1303	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:53:00 - [169] - Quote Now is the part where I discuss the UI and get angry again. We're also going back to this guy Look at number 6. Who okayed that? Who said "Yeah the description on that one looks fine to show to everyone". The description is the same as the name. Thanks. I was super confused but the description really cleared things up. Before I continue, also get rid of the "(s)". It's 2014 and this is software that needs to be visually appealing. You modify the word based on the number. Do you know the only helpful word in any of those descriptions? The word "gallantly". Why? Because it is the only word that isn't pointless. I think it should be replaced with something better suited but the fact remains. The Daily Mission screen is not where people need to learn about how to get SP/WP. The word "gallantly" is the only word meant to add flavor and unless a mission is added that needs explanation that is the only thing that should be in there. That said do you know what I'm not big on seeing when I need to reference something daily? Cluttered text. Either expand it when I select it or lose it and oh my god is number 1 and 5's title color the same as the description text? No, its just incredibly close. Why? What is this evil inside you? Moving on... if you want to keep the descriptions and need flavor. Gee if only you had some sort of culture to reference for that? Cultures where each would view the needs and actions of these missions differently. If only these missions weren't assigned by the invisible god Mtnoos who inflicts a terrible vengeance on these lands. Leaving them on our doorsteps while we sleep like some sort of chaotic santa clause. (Not criticism but I imagine it must be frustrating earning LP for factions that constantly lose. Might be nice if earning WP for a faction could give you a limited number of missions the next day from that faction where you could earn their LP. Maybe have those missions only be completable in FW. You could list it where you list Skillpoints since none of the missions you show actually grant SP) The mission names only eat up real estate. Do you think anyone is going to remember which is which or refer to them like that? Am I going to say "I have two hero missions today" to a friend or am I going to say "I have 3 SP missions, 2 WP missions left today". It's just clutter. Status isn't super helpful either. Regardless of how the Mission column is handled you still have to have a certain amount of height for the rewards. Use it. The math is simple but why not include it? Show much on the next line what percent complete the mission is. Maybe show the number for how much more I need. For the status of number 4 does it show the closest you've gotten to winning enough SP in one battle? Use that extra line of space to mark it as "closest attempt" or something. And if you can do so then add the units too. 0/99 what? Yeah I only need to look to the left to check (and frankly if you didn't shuffle your lists like a blackjack dealer it would matter less) but none of this is meant to be critical. This isn't a failure its simply sloppy. Next lets talk sorting. It looks like three of the columns can be sorted. We've already reviewed the default silverware drawer sort method used. Let's look at what the player can apparently click based on the little arrows. First sorting is mission. Apparently I can sort my missions alphabetically. This is the only purpose for the names. However with 10 items in the list I'll never actually want them alphabetical. I will just want them grouped together. Next we have Status. If Status isn't being sorted by percent complete I will fly there and throw eggs at your office windows. I will legitimately play on patch day just to look at this. If I am at 8/9 wins, and at 9,000/13,999 SP earned for the day, and that 9,000 is sorted as being higher on the list than the 8/9 then I will book a plane ticket. Last is Rewards. Being generous you are showing 3 different values in this column that do not have a set rate of conversion. I'm guessing you'll just make up numbers for a rough conversion and call it close enough. That's fine as I don't think anyone is going to bother using it after trying it once or twice. What someone might use is a sorting method based on a difficulty scale. It might be helpful since mission difficulty at a glance is not easily distinguishable compared to rewards. Looking at this screen I can quickly and easily get a rough estimate at the value of mission rewards (depending on weapon quality). At the very least I can quickly identify things I most want (therefore value more). Doing so with missions will likely be much more difficult. Sorting by difficulty then lets me look and see how the rewards stack up compared to that difficulty. I didn't really give suggestions for how to improve it. There are plenty but I can't identify the ones that can be done efficiently. My actual suggestion would be "do it right the first time". Its one of those things where changing one item requires a small change in the other. If it dominoes enough then you're looking at putting in nearly as much as you did to start off with. The only thing you would have needed to improve it would have been some attention to detail. Look at each part on that UI and ask yourself what information people will need the most frequently. Why do they need it? Can we make it easier to find the information they are looking for? What will be needed the least? Is Ryox Sinfar going to come egg our offices if we release this? These are simple questions anyone should ask themselves. Not in the pursuit of something perfect, just to avoid something poor. P.S. Congratulations on the positive review
Boot Booter Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 1039	Posted - 2014.12.03 20:07:00 - [170] - Quote Hey about the bandwidth equipment thing. Is there going to be a new display on the hud that shows how much bandwidth we have remaining, perhaps in the form of a gauge that fills up when we deploy equipment (with a number beside it). This kind of information would be crucial for logis, make our lives easier, and give new players some idea as to why their equipment is disappearing.

el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 584	Posted - 2014.12.03 20:15:00 - [171] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Hey about the bandwidth equipment thing. Is there going to be a new display on the hud that shows how much bandwidth we have remaining, perhaps in the form of a gauge that fills up when we deploy equipment (with a number beside it). This kind of information would be crucial for logis, make our lives easier, and give new players some idea as to why their equipment is disappearing. Probably not. Because, y'know, feedback and stuff... Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 585	Posted - 2014.12.03 20:30:00 - [172] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: There is a simple solution. Build a slayer logi fit that you use when you want to preserve your equipment. Exactly. So, for those new to the convo, BW=SlayerLogis. We'll have a dropping fit and a slaying fit and after a day or two we'll combine them into one suit, a slayerlogi with some equipment, maybe. Ah, progress. I think most will have multiple fits. I don't have a problem with slayer logis. The "slayer logi issue" back in the day was they were better assaults than assaults suits. This is no longer the case, and therefore isn't a problem. Now you'll have the choice to drop lots of equipment and use that suit, or switch suits to 1. a slayer (or AV) fit that will be less effective than assault, but still provide excellent support for your team through equipment and is still a reasonably effective slayer; 2. a repper/revive fit to support team; 3. Sacrifice SOME equipment and switch to a lower BW suit like an assault if that is more useful to you, or 4. sacrifice all equipment and swap into a Sentinel. You can always switch back and drop more equipment if that becomes a priority. The point is you have many options, and with less equipment on the field, those that do run dedicated logi should see a significant buff to WPs since they're not competing with "tourist logis." This is an excellent change. I'm all for eliminating tourist logis, read the Logistics Support CPM thread for my input on that. My point is and has been that while yes I have options, I have fewer now than I did. And that shouldn't be the case. And my best option, which I have always avoided, is to run dedicated slayerfits on my Logis. Which also shouldn't be the case. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
zzZaXxx The Exemplars 686	Posted - 2014.12.03 20:51:00 - [173] - Quote Thanks for the fitting window info. Now I don't have to use protofits all the time. But please include weapons' optimal and effective ranges! This is very important info!!!!!!!!!!!
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2635	Posted - 2014.12.03 21:20:00 - [174] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: There is a simple solution. Build a slayer logi fit that you use when you want to preserve your equipment. Exactly. So, for those new to the convo, BW=SlayerLogis. We'll have a dropping fit and a slaying fit and after a day or two we'll combine them into one suit, a slayerlogi with some equipment, maybe. Ah, progress. I think most will have multiple fits. I don't have a problem with slayer logis. The "slayer logi issue" back in the day was they were better assaults than assaults suits. This is no longer the case, and therefore isn't a problem. Now you'll have the choice to drop lots of equipment and use that suit, or switch suits to 1. a slayer (or AV) fit that will be less effective than assault, but still provide excellent support for your team through equipment and is still a reasonably effective slayer; 2. a repper/revive fit to support team; 3. Sacrifice SOME equipment and switch to a lower BW suit like an assault if that is more useful to you, or 4. sacrifice all equipment and swap into a Sentinel. You can always switch back and drop more equipment if that becomes a priority. The point is you have many options, and with less equipment on the field, those that do run dedicated logi should see a significant buff to WPs since they're not competing with "tourist logis." This is an excellent change. I'm all for eliminating tourist logis, read the Logistics Support CPM thread for my input on that. My point is and has been that while yes I have options, I have fewer now than I did. And that shouldn't be the case. And my best option, which I have always avoided, is to run dedicated slayerfits on my Logis. Which also shouldn't be the case. So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Best PvE idea ever!
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 586	Posted - 2014.12.03 21:30:00 - [175] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: There is a simple solution. Build a slayer logi fit that you use when you want to preserve your equipment. Exactly. So, for those new to the convo, BW=SlayerLogis. We'll have a dropping fit and a slaying fit and after a day or two we'll combine them into one suit, a slayerlogi with some equipment, maybe. Ah, progress. I think most will have multiple fits. I don't have a problem with slayer logis. The "slayer logi issue" back in the day was they were better assaults than assaults suits. This is no longer the case, and therefore isn't a problem. Now you'll have the choice to drop lots of equipment and use that suit, or switch suits to 1. a slayer (or AV) fit that will be less effective than assault, but still provide excellent support for your team through equipment and is still a reasonably effective slayer; 2. a repper/revive fit to support team; 3. Sacrifice SOME equipment and switch to a lower BW suit like an assault if that is more useful to you, or 4. sacrifice all equipment and swap into a Sentinel. You can always switch back and drop more equipment if that becomes a priority. The point is you have many options, and with less equipment on the field, those that do run dedicated logi should see a significant buff to WPs since they're not competing with "tourist logis." This is an excellent change. I'm all for eliminating tourist logis, read the Logistics Support CPM thread for my input on that. My point is and has been that while yes I have options, I have fewer now than I did. And that shouldn't be the case. And my best option, which I have always avoided, is to run dedicated slayerfits on my Logis. Which also shouldn't be the case. So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2636	Posted - 2014.12.03 21:53:00 - [176] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... Best PvE idea ever!
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1360	Posted - 2014.12.03 21:57:00 - [177] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Then you,my good sir,are in the wrong role. Killing is for self defense,in logistics case. If you feel compelled to kill,you may want to switch to assaults. I however will continue being a real logibro,using my allies as meat shields,and having them kill things for me.(as it was intended) Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 591	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:00:00 - [178] - Quote Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Then you,my good sir,are in the wrong role. Killing is for self defense,in logistics case. If you feel compelled to kill,you may want to switch to assaults. I however will continue being a real logibro,using my allies as meat shields,and having them kill things for me.(as it was intended) And I will continue as well. Albeit neutered except in incidents of blobbing, which is the playstyle now predetermined for Logistics. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 591	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:01:00 - [179] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... Sounds like you don't actually have anything to supplant what I've said. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3958	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:02:00 - [180] - Quote Rynx Sinfar wrote: Leaving them on our doorsteps while we sleep like some sort of chaotic santa clause. Good to see you, Rynx. Dren&Templar Tragedy.

el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 591	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:02:00 - [181] - Quote doublepost Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1360	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:09:00 - [182] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1360	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:11:00 - [183] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Then you,my good sir,are in the wrong role. Killing is for self defense,in logistics case. If you feel compelled to kill,you may want to switch to assaults. I however will continue being a real logibro,using my allies as meat shields,and having them kill things for me.(as it was intended) And I will continue as well. Albeit neutered except in incidents of blobbing, which is the playstyle now predetermined for Logistics. Better a live blob than a dead one,amirite? Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 592	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:51:00 - [184] - Quote Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Then you,my good sir,are in the wrong role. Killing is for self defense,in logistics case. If you feel compelled to kill,you may want to switch to assaults. I however will continue being a real logibro,using my allies as meat shields,and having them kill things for me.(as it was intended) And I will continue as well. Albeit neutered except in incidents of blobbing, which is the playstyle now predetermined for Logistics. Better a live blob than a dead one,amirite? Sure. And there's more to battlefield logistics than just being the soft center of a donutblob. I mean, there was more. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 593	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:03:00 - [185] - Quote Meee One wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW. "Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!" Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF. "Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!" Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier. And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi. "Well, this will make Logis respected!" No, scrub. This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. You want respect? Earn that ****. And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field. and so on and so forth... Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
castba Rogue Instincts 667	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:35:00 - [186] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap For those that didn't notice the link in the DevBlog. Yes, you are reading that right for Febuary, the Uprising is over. Simple Trading GUYS HERE WE GO! I'm not brave enough to look at the other Trello cards... Coupled with Planet Raiding. Yes, I know it is on "backlog" but... OH MY! "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 524	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:52:00 - [187] - Quote How about you award new players with their only special missions that give them SP and not just isk? Maybe 5,000 SP for this, 10,000 SP for that. Only loyal to the republic.
Dauth Jenkins Titans of Phoenix 572	Posted - 2014.12.04 02:15:00 - [188] - Quote So... why hasnt anyone mentioned the most important update in 1.10? CCP, thank you for finally updating the fitting screen info. It was quite annoying to not be able to see exactly how much my regulators are changing my suits without pulling out a calculator. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 280	Posted - 2014.12.04 02:38:00 - [189] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. In the name of all Non-Scouts I sincerely thank them as well, minus your sarcasm. As in real sincerity.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 712	Posted - 2014.12.04 02:51:00 - [190] - Quote To all the logis QQ'ing about bandwidth, I have a question. Why? With an Advanced Cal Logi, I can drop 2 Triage Nanohives, 2 regular nanohives, and 2 RE's. If it is that big of deal to want to drop more stuff, get your Proto on. With that, you can drop pretty much whatever the hell you want. Question, though. What is the bandwidth going to be for uplinks? I didn't see it on the overview. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.

Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 33	Posted - 2014.12.04 05:21:00 - [191] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Greiv Rabbah wrote: Wait so by missions... Hold on, EPIC? This sounds better than khanid cereal in freshly thawed dairy! You mean story is finally being brought into dust, slavage and looting are upcoming, and in a couple months were looking at a new expansion with player trading, warbarges, and other awesomeness? Don't tease me, this really makes me want to recruit more ppl to this game even though my old recruits all quit playing. Its a shame I have to wait a week to see any of this happen Edit: saw the missions and strongboxes pictures. Would like more variation in the missions, but for now this is really awesome. i hope branching from this that we may see sleeper drones(they could use the old super aggressive turret installation ai) because although I want mtacs, i know a lot of ppl that would be pulled in by questing, player trading, and pve. anyway really really aqesone stuff I feel the need to try to control your expectationsGÇª Read the missions in the image. Calling these GÇ£missionsGÇ¥ might be overstating what they are a little bit. They are more like GÇ£challengesGÇ¥. But still a good step in the right direction. I see the "missions" and "salvage" as trying to emulate the Gameplay experience they intend for Legion, in DUST, as best they can given DUST's current limiting structure. Edit: I don't think we are likely to see Sleeper Drones... But we could have this. I saw the image, my expectations are well under control. And I am still as excited as I was initially. These "missions" are a good starting point and introduce the means for a more fleshed out set of actual quests intothe client. For a patch, tthat's all we need. Missions can then be updated through server side updates or hotfixes. Re: your edit, I think sleeper drones(which they have art assets for small, medium, and large drones BTW) that use the aggressive turret ai with some new code for moving and patrolling are just as plausible as the proposed new game mode(this running the gauntlet style Dom that's been outlined in ur link) except I'd give the edge to sleeper drones for the reasons that 1) everybody wants sleeper drone battle pve and 2) there are storyline reasons why sleeper drones should be a thing in dust
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 33	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:24:00 - [192] - Quote Hyuan BubblePOP wrote: fix the abuse players do @ supply depots when someones tries to hack it, the team with the supply depot can cancel the hack by accessing the supply depot. :( You're talking about hacking a secured point... Srsly? Wait, no. I agree. Please also fix the exact same bug with vehicles and installations, because I also can't hack a turret that has a squad around it bc ppl keep using it to shoot my allies. And I keep having to actually fight tanks bc for some reason I can't hack them while someone's driving it. Oh and also, I'm having some trouble counterhacking letters while an opponent is in the middle of hacking it. Now, before anyone loses their marbles here, I'm being sarcastic. A heavily defended hack point that is currently in use is ridiculously secure and should require either enough sneakiness to steal the point out from under all their noses or enough force to deal with the players securing that point. Please think about this before making such posts, you didn't make a lot of sense there. You want to hack a supply depot with lots of ppl around it fine. I do it all the time. Be ready to hack it 3 times bc ppl will keep using it if they don't notice you. And be ready for a fight if they do notice you

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12822	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:29:00 - [193] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 451	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:31:00 - [194] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? I wouldn't mind if the OB's could have all the colors of the Rainbow = OMG !!! MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 97	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:45:00 - [195] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Well...there isn't really any progression in terms of laser crystals in eve aside from the tech 2 crystals for beam lasers Gleam - Mid-Short Range, High-Mid Damage, Bright White Beam Aurora - Long range, Lower Damage, Crimson Red Beam For Pulse Lasers (Scrambler) Scorch - Mid-Long Range, Mid-High Damage, Purple Laser Pulses Conflagration - Short-Mid Range, High Damage, Green Laser Pulses I'd Like to see the Vanilla Scrambler Rifle using Scorch, while the Assault Variant uses Conflag...Don't know what to do for the Laser Rifle though Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1363	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:53:00 - [196] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW. "Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!" 1)Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF. "Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!" 2)Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier.3) And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi. "Well, this will make Logis respected!" 4)No, scrub. 5)This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. 6) You want respect? Earn that ****.And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field. and so on and so forth... 1)A nerf to spammers. Do you really need more than 8 uplinks in a dom? Or even a skirm? 2)They'll die ALOT trying to run a logistics like an assault + high costs = short stay 3)I've suggested 'supporting the support' WP incentives before,but my thread(s) got locked. 4)Yes,insults will make you seem 1000% more valid. 5)Logistics aren't waterboys? 5a)logistics reps (towels off) 5b)logistics refills (gives drinks) -Logistics ARE servants and are designed to serve other suits,however,this in no way makes them any less significant. 6)I,personally,never used more than 3-4 deployables at a time,so my 'capabilities' will be just fine. It's those that spam 20 uplinks in a small city area that'll be hurting. 6a)My suit already limits my abilities,or have you forgotten logistics have less eHP and less speed. 6b)My skill in making up for those lost abilities is what earns me respect,most can't or won't run logistics because they are so heavily gimped. We are getting off track,if you wish to continue this discussion,you know which thread i'll be monitoring. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2641	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:07:00 - [197] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? In EVE the colors are based on range (and should remain that way in DUST IMO). If we ever had short/medium/long range LR, ScR variants (or even vehicle turrets or heavy laser beam weapons!), I think range would be more appropriate use of color as the games should remain consistent on laser colors for lore and just because there's no good reason not to. In EVE pulse lasers: Shortest to longest range: Multifrequency (white) Conflagration (green, T2) Gamma (blue) Xray (green) Ultraviolet (purple) Standard (yellow) Infrared (red-orange) Microwave (yellow-orange) Scorch (purple, T2) Radio (red) Best PvE idea ever!
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1720	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:20:00 - [198] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Based on crystals rattati. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Standard_Crystals:Small https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Advanced_Beam_Laser_Crystals:Small https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Advanced_Pulse_Laser_Crystals:Small Shorter range = more damage. 'Advanced' crystals are modified versions of other crystals and fall into two categories, short range and long range (for each weapon, pulse lasers are short, beam lasers are long). Scorch (long pulse) = Ultraviolet Conflagrate (short pulse) = Xray Gleam (short beam) = Multifrequency (white) Aurora (long beam) = Radio Otherwise colors are the same as crystals. And visual representation of all the colors: http://www.eve-tribune.com/5_21/contest2.jpg or higher quality: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bnmFIL7BqKs/UkICsCSl37I/AAAAAAAAAeU/77nFlEGvdJI/s1600/abaddon-rainbow.jpg Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 599	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:28:00 - [199] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: To all the logis QQ'ing about bandwidth, I have a question. Why? With an Advanced Cal Logi, I can drop 2 Triage Nanohives, 2 regular nanohives, and 2 RE's. If it is that big of deal to want to drop more stuff, get your Proto on. With that, you can drop pretty much whatever the hell you want. Question, though. What is the bandwidth going to be for uplinks? I didn't see it on the overview. Some answers are in the bandwidth feedback sticky in Features and Ideas. Or were, its locked now so may have been moved to the archives by now. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 599	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:56:00 - [200] - Quote Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW. "Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!" 1)Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF. "Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!" 2)Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier.3) And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi. "Well, this will make Logis respected!" 4)No, scrub. 5)This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. 6) You want respect? Earn that ***.And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field. and so on and so forth... 1)A nerf to spammers. Do you really need more than 8 uplinks in a dom? Or even a skirm? 2)They'll die ALOT trying to run a logistics like an assault + high costs = short stay 3)I've suggested 'supporting the support' WP incentives before,but my thread(s) got locked. 4)Yes,insults will make you seem 1000% more valid. 5)Logistics aren't waterboys? 5a)logistics reps (towels off) 5b)logistics refills (gives drinks) -Logistics ARE servants and are designed to serve other suits,however,this in no way makes them any less significant. 6)I,personally,never used more than 3-4 deployables at a time,so my 'capabilities' will be just fine. It's those that spam 20 uplinks in a small city area that'll be hurting. 6a)My suit already limits my abilities,or have you forgotten logistics have less eHP and less speed. 6b)My skill in making up for those lost abilities is what earns me respect,most can't or won't run logistics because they are so heavily gimped. We are getting off track,if you wish to continue this discussion,you know which thread i'll be monitoring. 1. A nerf to everybody to nerf spammers = spammers win. A nerf to spammer that doesnt nerf the rest of us? That would = spammers lose. 2. They'll run as slayers, not assaults. I'd explain, but won't. 3. So, what does that tell you about BW? 4. Pump those brakes and slow that roll, thats not my insult to you. Thats an often phrased insult to US. 5+ Logistics is NOT servitude, bro. Yes, our functionality does include repair and resupply but it neither defines* us nor should we be exclusively limited by that. YES logistics includes that. NO Logistics is not totally defined by that. I'm glad you've found a nice and cozy place for yourself solely supporting your squad by serving their direct momentary needs. I'm disappointed that in all the tme you've spent running "Logistics" you haven't yet seen or realized squad and team support outside of those moments and our place in those other areas. You want to be and are okay with being the waterboy? Fine by me. But don't make that your justification for ******* up my ability to do more. Chess, not Checkers, is why I'm here. Plenty of sandbox lobby shooters already exist, Tactical Strategy Shooters? Not so much and after BW not as much here either. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.

Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3229	Posted - 2014.12.04 08:17:00 - [201] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Can you do random rainbow color per shot for the officer ScR? That would be hilarious. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Skybladev2 LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 137	Posted - 2014.12.04 09:13:00 - [202] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. Anyone got approved? Still no answer to me, positive or negative. <[^_^]>
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 493	Posted - 2014.12.04 09:40:00 - [203] - Quote Just throwing this out there, Have the lazor rifle go through the enitre rainbow spectrum, the longer you fire, the more intense the color change. Purple to blue to green to yellow to orange to red to white Lets the lazor guy know how much the damage dps increased, warns the guy getting lazooooored and looks awesome. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 456	Posted - 2014.12.04 10:31:00 - [204] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. In the name of all Non-Scouts I sincerely thank them as well, minus your sarcasm. As in real sincerity. If really Non-Scouts wanted so much to remove those orientation arrows, this change should apply only to them(Medium, Heavy, Basic Light suits). Scouts should get more intel from ewar bonuses, mostly because they are "Scouts". Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1725	Posted - 2014.12.04 11:05:00 - [205] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Just throwing this out there, Have the lazor rifle go through the enitre rainbow spectrum, the longer you fire, the more intense the color change. Purple to blue to green to yellow to orange to red to white Lets the lazor guy know how much the damage dps increased, warns the guy getting lazooooored and looks awesome. But its Base damage + (number of shots fired consecutively * [.85-1.10... or more, based on tier) = damage per shot. Heat isn't a factor. And each of those crystals has a different profile even though they're almost all em and thermal damage they have different weightings of it, they also modify capacitor use and range... so would a laser that fired 80 shots drop from 110m optimal to 74m optimal to 37m optimal as it gains heat? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Sgt Pseudo Gummibaerenbande 514 RUST415 65	Posted - 2014.12.04 11:13:00 - [206] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Please CCP. let me do this in DUST! >Misquoting a dev is a bananable offense `CCP Rattati`
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 493	Posted - 2014.12.04 11:21:00 - [207] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Just throwing this out there, Have the lazor rifle go through the enitre rainbow spectrum, the longer you fire, the more intense the color change. Purple to blue to green to yellow to orange to red to white Lets the lazor guy know how much the damage dps increased, warns the guy getting lazooooored and looks awesome. But its Base damage + (number of shots fired consecutively * [.85-1.10... or more, based on tier) = damage per shot. Heat isn't a factor. And each of those crystals has a different profile even though they're almost all em and thermal damage they have different weightings of it, they also modify capacitor use and range... so would a laser that fired 80 shots drop from 110m optimal to 74m optimal to 37m optimal as it gains heat? Yeah, the way imaigins basic coding to work (and i know NOTHING about coding) IF consecutive shots > OR = total x THEN color = r,b ,g . The damage goes up with a separate calculation and both damage and color change happen to sync up to look cool. Or IF base damage + (number of shots fired consecutively * [.85-1.10) > OR = damage x Then color =R,B, G Devs, you know better than me, is this possible? Or people who know C++ does this even make sense? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Skybladev2 LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 138	Posted - 2014.12.04 13:17:00 - [208] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Squads in Public Contracts will now be able to earn additional Off-Map Support in the form of EMP Warbarge Strikes, bombardments that only affects shields and deployed equipment, and Laser Warbarge Strikes, a high powered surgical strike, each obtained for a specific amount of War Points. Could you write down final numbers? <[^_^]>
Laurent Cazaderon What The French Red Whines. 2359	Posted - 2014.12.04 13:52:00 - [209] - Quote I'm glad when i look at 1.9 and 1.10 patchnotes. This is exactly the kind of work Dust needs, and more importantly (and sadly), needed a year+ ago. In the end, i dont know if i'm more glad or sad about it. Farming your likes since 2012
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 21	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:18:00 - [210] - Quote To All The Dumb-Tards That Claim To Be Logistical ( Logi ) Combative players. Definition: Logistics "the New Oxford American Dictionary defines logistics as "the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies," and the Oxford Dictionary on-line defines it as "the detailed organization and implementation of a complex operation." According to the Council of Logistics Management,[2] logistics includes the integrated planning, control, realization, and monitoring of all internal and network-wide material, part, and product flow, for the purpose of conforming to customer requirements. Logistics is the process of planning, implementing, and controlling the effective and efficient flow of goods and services from the point of origin to the point of consumption." To Explain it in Layman's Terms: Shoving a rep tool up a Heavies crack or a Commandos spine doesn't make you a Logi. Spamming 100 droplinks and Nanohives on a map drawing pictures of cartoons doesn't make you a logi ( funny as hell though lol ) - a logi is the one that keeps the whole team alive and aware of his surroundings , relaying information , dropping tactic Droplinks and Hives when needed. ( enough said. You get the point ) don't like scrub lazy player's making w.p's off some dumb shyt like that and lagging out the system. But thanks to this new update all that nonsense will be over.

LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 322	Posted - 2014.12.04 17:13:00 - [211] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: To Explain it in Layman's Terms: Shoving a rep tool up a Heavies crack or a Commandos spine doesn't make you a Logi. Spamming 100 droplinks and Nanohives on a map drawing pictures of cartoons doesn't make you a logi ( funny as hell though lol ) - a logi is the one that keeps the whole team alive and aware of his surroundings , relaying information , dropping tactic Droplinks and Hives when needed. ( enough said. You get the point ) don't like scrub lazy player's making w.p's off some dumb shyt like that and lagging out the system. But thanks to this new update all that nonsense will be over. Let me explain in my terms. Heres your PSA for the day son: Lets say we go to a skimrish map. Lets say the one with the underground depot. 1 proto cal logi who wants to do nothing but rep people can deploy NINE nanohives at the depot or around the objectve, and then switch to a rep fit. Now a protosquad of assaults and scouts is arriving. They can each place anywhere from 2-3 peices of equipment. They can switch to a assault with hives, place them, and then switch to an assault with a scanner. No concequence. So do the math on that. 9 hives from the cal logi and then 2 pieces of equipment each from the 6 man squad = 21 potential prices of equipment around the depot and objective. All from part timer, non logis. Meanwhile, me, to do my job properly, i need to now be in a protofit, and i have to compete with the fact that non logis can drop dozens of pieces of equipment. So explain to me how the "nonsense" will be over? There will still be spam, non logis will still deploy equipment immediately around them just to benefit their squads, and dedicated logis have severe limits on who they can supply and where they can get people to spawn. Right now, If there is a raging fight at A using my equipment, and i see that D is getting hacked and theres no one nearby, i can rush out to D in a vehicle and get some stuff down so my team can push. After the patch though? i have to stay in a ridiculously expensive suit. After I get my stuff down at A im off to a low risk zone to snipe or do something else with minimal risk. I can afford to lose some ADV logi suits. I cant afford to lose proto ones. People think logis are going to just switch to repping and reviving; They are crazy if they think im going to risk a 100,000ISK suit to go help someone elses wallet.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3960	Posted - 2014.12.04 18:34:00 - [212] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Based on crystals rattati. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Standard_Crystals:Small https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Advanced_Beam_Laser_Crystals:Small https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Advanced_Pulse_Laser_Crystals:Small Shorter range = more damage. 'Advanced' crystals are modified versions of other crystals and fall into two categories, short range and long range (for each weapon, pulse lasers are short, beam lasers are long). Scorch (long pulse) = Ultraviolet Conflagrate (short pulse) = Xray Gleam (short beam) = Multifrequency (white) Aurora (long beam) = Radio Otherwise colors are the same as crystals. And visual representation of all the colors: http://www.eve-tribune.com/5_21/contest2.jpg or higher quality: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bnmFIL7BqKs/UkICsCSl37I/AAAAAAAAAeU/77nFlEGvdJI/s1600/abaddon-rainbow.jpg Thanks, you said it better than I could. This sort of thing would make the most sense used in the context of different rifle versions. That is: Breach Scrambler use Gamma (blue) Regular Scramber use Xray (green) Burst Scrambler use UV (purple) Tactical Scrambler use Microwave (Orange) Or whatever (those are all relatively short range, but any scheme which kept them in order would effectively keep with EVE) and lasers are effectively short-range. One thing I like about Tier 2 in EVE is that they tend to come with drawbacks. So, Conflagration (green) and Scorch (purple) Are "better" than regular crystals, but also have caveats: Conflag: 50% reduced optimal range. 30% reduced tracking speed. 25% increased capacitor usage. Scorch: 50% increased optimal range. 25% decreased tracking speed. So, you introduce things that increase damage but have drawbacks, which is little different than how Dust weapons work (they're more analagous to the higher meta level turrets you get - higher cost & performance). So, the EVE doesn't necessarily tie you to a specific color order. Purple is shorter range than many colors in standard, but longer range with scorch - for example. But the special crystals could also introduce special weapons versions with drawbacks, which I find interesting (note: this is also true of alternate ammo types with other weapons). In either case, I think I would just generally be pleased with color variety, regardless. Dren&Templar Tragedy.
Mahmun HELLRAIZERZ RISE of LEGION 7	Posted - 2014.12.05 00:14:00 - [213] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal Ur supposed to balls up and not whine Chicken is good
501st Headstrong Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 736	Posted - 2014.12.05 00:21:00 - [214] - Quote HAS ANYONE READ THE ROADMAP????!!!! Platoons for FW Corporation Advertising Simple Trading Meta-level Lockout (Tiercide) Warbarge Raiding PLANET RAIDING etc I don't even CARE if it's on the Backlog possibly or all the way till APRIL!!!! It's been discussed!!! Praise Rattati I love this man so much I'd die for you and this game holy f you are a god Rattati... End of Gibberish rant The roadmap is really cool guys Ace Boone's Son/ Danizzle's Friend/ OG GAM4LIfe "Are you a boy or girl?" -Most asked question in Dust Waiting for SWBF
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6356	Posted - 2014.12.05 01:28:00 - [215] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: deadpool lifetone wrote: To Explain it in Layman's Terms: Shoving a rep tool up a Heavies crack or a Commandos spine doesn't make you a Logi. Spamming 100 droplinks and Nanohives on a map drawing pictures of cartoons doesn't make you a logi ( funny as hell though lol ) - a logi is the one that keeps the whole team alive and aware of his surroundings , relaying information , dropping tactic Droplinks and Hives when needed. ( enough said. You get the point ) don't like scrub lazy player's making w.p's off some dumb shyt like that and lagging out the system. But thanks to this new update all that nonsense will be over. Let me explain in my terms. Heres your PSA for the day son: Lets say we go to a skirmish map. Lets say the one with the underground depot. 1 proto cal logi who wants to do nothing but rep people can deploy NINE nanohives at the depot or around the objective, and then switch to a rep fit. Now a protosquad of assaults and scouts is arriving. They can each place anywhere from 2-3 peices of equipment. They can switch to a assault with hives, place them, and then switch to an assault with a scanner. No consequence. So do the math on that. 9 hives from the cal logi and then 2 pieces of equipment each from the 6 man squad = 21 potential prices of equipment around the depot and objective. All from part timer, non logis. And thats just 7 players. Imagine what a full 16 player team could do in a Domination at that same map and objective? Meanwhile, me, to do my job properly, i need to now be in a protofit, and i have to compete with the fact that non logis can drop dozens of pieces of equipment. This wont do much to reduce spam or enhance the logi role. All it does is reduce the ability of solo players to impact the game. So explain to me how the "nonsense" will be over? There will still be spam, non logis will still deploy equipment immediately around them just to benefit their squads, and dedicated logis have severe limits on who they can supply and where they can get people to spawn. Right now, If there is a raging fight at "A" using my equipment, and i see that "D" is getting hacked and theres no one nearby, i can rush out to "D" in a vehicle and get some stuff down so my team can push. After the patch though? i have to stay in a ridiculously expensive suit. After I get my stuff down at "A" im off to a low risk zone to snipe or do something else with minimal risk. I can afford to lose some ADV logi suits. I cant afford to lose proto ones. People think logis are going to just switch to repping and reviving; They are crazy if they think im going to risk a 100,000ISK suit to go help someone elses wallet. I have to disagree with you. First off, after the patch, I will be done running EQ as the suits I use now, which I can sometimes lay up to 6 uplinks with, plus use REs at will, will be deleted. As for your suits, you can still do quite a lot with ADV Logi suits, and you can run a cheaper version of the same tier once you are done placing your EQ. You don't have to fully deck out the same tier of suit for you to keep your EQ, you can stack cheap things on it and still keep your bandwidth. The whole point of this is to stop people who are not logis spamming EQ and for Logis to stop dropping lots of EQ then hopping in a heavy suit for slaying. If you are committed to the role, you should be fine. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 454	Posted - 2014.12.05 01:42:00 - [216] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Well...there isn't really any progression in terms of laser crystals in eve aside from the tech 2 crystals (unless you want all the different Ranged Crystals across the spectrum) for beam lasers Gleam - Mid-Short Range, High-Mid Damage, Bright White Beam (Tech 2 version of Multifrequency) Aurora - Long range, Lower Damage, Crimson Red Beam (Tech 2 version of Radio) For Pulse Lasers (Scrambler) Scorch - Mid-Long Range, Mid-High Damage, Purple Laser Pulses (Tech 2 Version of Ultraviolet) Conflagration - Short-Mid Range, High Damage, Green Laser Pulses (Tech 2 version of Xray) I'd Like to see the Vanilla Scrambler Rifle using Scorch, while the Assault Variant uses Conflag...Don't know what to do for the Laser Rifle though For T1 Crystals Small Laser Crystals (There's a stats table at the bottom of the linked page, both beam and pulse lasers use the same T1 Crystals) Very interesting! For lasers just have the beam change colors as it heats up damage wise. Good for the shooter and the shootie as far as making mid combat decisions about whether to duke it out or take cover. And it would be cool. Go orange > yellow > red > white > blue? Edit: I just realized that this might be troublesome codewise.
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 322	Posted - 2014.12.05 05:34:00 - [217] - Quote Mahmun wrote: Ur supposed to balls up and not whine With all due respect, this entire game change is due to relentless whining from the "toughest", most veteran players. if anyone needed to balls up it should have bee them before they went to the devs with a tearful plea to nerf my playstyle. All im doing is keeping CCP honest instead of letting them do whatever the veteran centric PC obsessed CPM suggests. One Eyed King wrote: If you are committed to the role, you should be fine. Its because too many people are using too broad of a definition to my role. Take, for example, auto mechanics. There are guys who do tires and oil changes, guys who do electronics, others who do suspensions and alignment, and even more specialized guys who do transmissions. Do you expect a guy who does tires and oil changes to repair a transmission? Same thing here. Im not a waterboy. I dont sign on so that i can go and to rev and repairs and help out a squad. I utterly despise squads. The last thing i want to do is help them prosper. The idea of people telling me to waste my ISK savings to rev and rep squads literally makes my blood boil. Im not saying the sky is falling. If i have to use my ADV, no problem, thats like 3 uplinks, then off to a safe place to play a virtually risk free rest of the game. Before i didnt mind losing suits pushing. No way in hell am I wasting suits maintaining the status quo. I dont see why i have to reinvent how I play the game just because some tryhard is sad that "lag" meant he only went 23-2 farming new players instead of 25-1. I wont do it. All im going to do is water down my effort. The pay will be about the same, and I know all those proto squads are going to love games where they spend 10 minutes at my redline instead of 5. Im not going to shoulder the burden and costs when people and squads and still spam stuff casually and do other game breaking switches (Like scout to commando AV and then back).
Hector Carson THE DESOLATION OF EDEN 98	Posted - 2014.12.05 06:25:00 - [218] - Quote I hope PvE is in it (even though I seriously doubt it) My Corp fights for whoever has money, Primarily PC battles
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2530	Posted - 2014.12.05 09:51:00 - [219] - Quote Fix needles... You left a broken un finished mechanic that allowed for needle locking mercenaries and forcing them to shut off their playstation to get out... FOR 2 YEARS. Then after that the fix is to nerf the entire existence and use that has been established for 2 years.... Now we have squads and friendly chats full of people yelling, "YOU HAVE TO PUSH X!!!! I CAN"T REVIVE YOU IF YOU DON'T PRESS X!. OMG, NOW I DIED WAITING" Instead of using a needle and -1 death while both the logi and mercenary fights for their life and ISK investment. Creating an enjoyable experience for all. Clones belong to the team as a whole not to the individual mercenary.. So many matches and epic moments lost in FW events to normal amubushes because of the nerf hammer that has been applied to needle gameplay in DUST. If your clone isn't terminated, you shouldn't die. No matter what ego trip people and a certain developer believes about downing a mercenary and that they should stay down... If the clone isn't terminated... No clone died... Hence you never died..
4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 10	Posted - 2014.12.06 15:10:00 - [220] - Quote CCP,where are our doubled SP per WP you promised us with 1.9 patch?Will we get it with this patch? I punched camel once,and it meows at me

Criteria Shipment The Hundred Acre Hood 958	Posted - 2014.12.07 03:49:00 - [221] - Quote Quote: - Minor Warbarge Flux Strike: Impact Radius = 50m, War Point Cost = 300 Am I reading this right or careless typo? A MINOR warbarge strike? How small is it if it's going to be 300 WPs? Are you saying that I have to lone wolf my own squad to start spamming this strikes on the map and get the lowest FPS possible? EDIT: I know its 50m but come on... IMAGINE THE SPAM
Dimitri Rascolovitch Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 280	Posted - 2014.12.08 05:36:00 - [222] - Quote Not sure if it was already pointed out, but the devblog doesnt tell us what the bw cost of uplinks is also bandwidth should be a stat posted on the dropsuit menu so we have an idea how it works Bring back the Marauders, Enforcers, Logistic, and Scout LAVS and Dropships
iKILLu osborne Titans of Phoenix 498	Posted - 2014.12.08 06:57:00 - [223] - Quote i'm having to use my ps3 to do all this huublah and it doesn't want to load the trello site could you post the keypoints of the roadmap on the forums rattati if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 395	Posted - 2014.12.08 15:51:00 - [224] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Not sure if it was already pointed out, but the devblog doesnt tell us what the bw cost of uplinks is also bandwidth should be a stat posted on the dropsuit menu so we have an idea how it works I believe it was said to be 4 for all uplinks. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 38	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:26:00 - [225] - Quote Brush Master wrote: When will vehicles get some love again? still missing tons of content that was removed. Pilot love seems like rattatas next big thing so pilots get your feedback ready. From logi lavs coming back to minmatar vehicles and turrets to MTACs and MCCs i will be ecstatic if it all happens
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 38	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:28:00 - [226] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: How about you award new players with their only special missions that give them SP and not just isk? Maybe 5,000 SP for this, 10,000 SP for that. There's a spot on the missions screenshot for so rewards.
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 38	Posted - 2014.12.08 17:42:00 - [227] - Quote Meee One wrote: Changing colors of lazors? Do i predict a shield rep tool coming from this? (Change the beam color on regular rep tools from yellow to blue.) The correct term in-world is remote shield booster. Currently we have only remote armor repairers, although i cant see why we dont have handheld shield boosters. I cant figure out why we have to carry a gun either... In eve my drone carrier had 3 turrets: a shield booster, an armor repper, and a hull repper (sometimes also a salvage tool) Edit: this is what a gallente logi should be. No guns, just fighting drones repping drones scouting drones and salvage drones... Or maybe just a whole lot of repping drones or a few fighting drones and a scanner. Or a rep tool a shield booster a rep drone and a fighting drone. Anyway gallogis need drones(bc radars is kinda a scout equipment)
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 6010	Posted - 2014.12.08 18:08:00 - [228] - Quote Love the coming changes! I do have a question about the bandwidth, though. Will there be some sort of indicator on the HUD to display used / total bandwidth? If not, I think it would be a grwat addition for a later patch, since as a logi I'm probably not going to try to keep a running tab of what's still up, and would instead like to focus on the fight at hand. Never forget More tiericide, less tieriphiles.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 717	Posted - 2014.12.08 22:10:00 - [229] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: To all the logis QQ'ing about bandwidth, I have a question. Why? With an Advanced Cal Logi, I can drop 2 Triage Nanohives, 2 regular nanohives, and 2 RE's. If it is that big of deal to want to drop more stuff, get your Proto on. With that, you can drop pretty much whatever the hell you want. Question, though. What is the bandwidth going to be for uplinks? I didn't see it on the overview. Some answers are in the bandwidth feedback sticky in Features and Ideas. Or were, its locked now so may have been moved to the archives by now. K, I'll check it out. I ooked at the overview that was released and it has the bw/s for nanohives, triages, RE's, etc, but it doesn't list Uplinks anywhere. It has every other deployable piece of equipment listed OTHER than Uplinks. :) Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1574	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:52:00 - [230] - Quote Woo Hoo already! *IGS is so quiet now, the silence is almost unbearable.*

sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 1574	Posted - 2014.12.09 03:53:00 - [231] - Quote You sneaky bastards, I've seen the Laser OB in game already (In killfeed for CFW) *IGS is so quiet now, the silence is almost unbearable.*
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2600	Posted - 2014.12.09 04:17:00 - [232] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) How about you guys take a look at some of the old assets that you have sitting around for DUST. And re-purpose them or finally get around to finishing the concept. Like: Small Turret Installations. These in closed beta where amazing. They where usually placed on or around objectives and offered a static point of defense and offense. Would be cool if you guys could actually make them deployable equipment... and Maybe a viable build option for the many clases. Logistic LAV's. We need a proper way to offer Shield based Logistics.Specially with the upcoming EMP strikes. It would be amazing if the Logi LAV didnt have a normal Small turret. But a Large remote shield transporter that a "gunner" has to operate to then offer shield repairs to anything from tanks to dropships to mercenaries. I Believe it should also have some resistance to AV weaponry. Logistic Dropships. We need dropships in general to get a reconcept. Right now they are operating like glorified fighters with a wet paper bag for defense. They 1-3 shot every suit in the game while only being able to take 3 shots consecutively without having to flee. Logistic Dropships should have AoE remote shield transporters like Logistic LAV's of old had. Significantly reduced offensive abilities... Giving considerably less damage by 75% or more but near double the tanking ability. Allowing logistic dropships to spend more time over their squads heads providing cover and support. Deployable structures. We have had the empty option when ever you go to the warbarge or vehicle selector "Installations" We where supposed to have Turret's and other structures we where supposed to be able to purchase off the market and then fit... Then when we scored enough warpoints we where supposed to have an option to call it in to a requested location. It just seems like a giant missed opportunity for relevant content. How about we test the Amarr Large vehicle turret weaponry on a installation first? There are alot of places that could be gone with them.
Immortal John Ripper 26425	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:26:00 - [233] - Quote 9/10 Don't click this link
General John Ripper 26428	Posted - 2014.12.09 10:26:00 - [234] - Quote 9/10 Don't click this link
4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 11	Posted - 2014.12.09 13:03:00 - [235] - Quote 1.10 is live and it brought us PROTO Veterans with 100 million SP in public match!And that's not it!They brought their friends too!Same **** as 1.9 I punched camel once,and it meows at me
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 160	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:03:00 - [236] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: 1.10 is live and it brought us PROTO Veterans with 100 million SP in public match!And that's not it!They brought their friends too!Same **** as 1.9 What is wrong with ISK payment?I had 1000 WP and i got 110k ISK? WESKER S.T.A.R.S crying about PRO stompers oh lol my sides. Yes, I'm that desperate...
4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 11	Posted - 2014.12.09 14:55:00 - [237] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: 1.10 is live and it brought us PROTO Veterans with 100 million SP in public match!And that's not it!They brought their friends too!Same **** as 1.9 What is wrong with ISK payment?I had 1000 WP and i got 110k ISK? WESKER S.T.A.R.S crying about PRO stompers oh lol my sides. At least we don't camp uplinks like others ;) (I don't use proto,NEVER) I'm not crying but putting me(3 months) against others(1 year at least) is really stupid and that kind of a game I don't want to play. I punched camel once,and it meows at me
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2603	Posted - 2014.12.09 16:59:00 - [238] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: 4lbert Wesker wrote: 1.10 is live and it brought us PROTO Veterans with 100 million SP in public match!And that's not it!They brought their friends too!Same ** as 1.9 What is wrong with ISK payment?I had 1000 WP and i got 110k ISK? WESKER S.T.A.R.S crying about PRO stompers oh lol my sides. At least we don't camp uplinks like others ;) (I don't use proto,NEVER) I'm not crying but putting me(3 months) against others(1 year at least) is really stupid and that kind of a game I don't want to play. Every *** time when *** patch comes out,everyone have ***** proto. Believe it or not. That is the only established learning curve that exists in DUST. Having players try and make STD and ADV suits relevant against proto suit vets. Its pretty much how everyone that plays has gotten better. Being able to take a STD or ADV suit and make something out of it in competition. It makes you better at the game. Where wearing proto only really makes you better at knowing how to run proto.. Your skills usually remain stagnate.
Cu' Chulainn Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 14	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:09:00 - [239] - Quote Awesome job on paper.... I can't wait to get back to quarters and see the changes in effect! Couple items on my wish list: 1. fix FW deployment... I couldn't get a Minmitar or Gallente FW battle to save my sweet Assault Rifle! Waiting 5-8 minutes on average made me run Caldari FW, which supporting those grimy jerks is contrary to my Minmitar Heritage....but I wanted to play in the FW event. Furthermore our Corp participates weekly in FW training sessions and we are generally forced to play Caldari as it deploys fast and when you have 12+ people involved waiting 5-8 minutes per deployment is a terrible waste of time. 2. Matchmaking........................... (be nice Cu'....they know not what the have done...........) Ok, Pretty please with sugar on top try a new method of matchmaking. Maybe tiered based on what level of suit/weapom you run. Being proto-stomped in pub matches is never fun...even if it is your team doing it. Turns the new player experience bad and also turns veteran users off when we are just trying to ISK grind or just playing for fun in a cheap suit to let your skills do the work. Overall you guys are kicking major Agimus!!! Thanks for the listening and the work.... In the words of my mentor Redrum...."NOW Move out and draw FIRE!!!"
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 1048	Posted - 2014.12.09 17:48:00 - [240] - Quote I saw a lot of OB notification spam! WTH? It's quite annoying. Also can you guys fix the whole "proto stomp or die" thing that's been going on since...idk...when the game was spawned. Example: You can only enter a match if your whole fitting/vehicle is within set META LEVEL. That way you'll fight with other like mercs.

deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 24	Posted - 2014.12.09 19:59:00 - [241] - Quote Few questions. 1.is the bandwidth subjected to the whole suit in general? Or is it to equipment tier? ( example: i have 3 proto suits set up . Max bandwidth is 16 . Each equipment is 4 mbits on each suit : does that mean i can deploy all the equipment on each suit with out self detonation? Or is the bandwidth counted to each equipment dropped individually ? ) 2. The O.B spam notice is a bit of a eyesore. ( positives ) fights are more intense and fun - protecting a home point pays off - new color changes are interesting and more noticeable - no more spamming the map great Highlight of the day - proto sentinel runs back to supply depot with 80 armor left to change quick into a new sentinel , he reanimates and dies by melee attacks lmao seconds later leaves battle
Ratticate Y.A.M.A.H 4	Posted - 2014.12.09 20:42:00 - [242] - Quote Quote: Believe it or not. That is the only established learning curve that exists in DUST. Having players try and make STD and ADV suits relevant against proto suit vets. Its pretty much how everyone that plays has gotten better. Being able to take a STD or ADV suit and make something out of it in competition. It makes you better at the game. Where wearing proto only really makes you better at knowing how to run proto. Your skills usually remain stagnate. I have to disagree with you, playing as a STD or ADV suits would not make you any better at the game, if anything when you use these suits it makes you more careless because there is a minuscule cost for these. When I got the prototype dropsuits, I deleted any STD/ADV fittings I had because when you have proto, why would you use anything else (except when you know you're probably going to die a lot of times in a match, then I understand.) Example: If you had to choose between a Honda and a Lamborghini, which would you choose, and would the honda make you a better driver than if you were driving a Lambourghini A proud member of the Y.A.M.A.H. corporation, apply today to one of the fastest growing corps out there!
Alcina Nektaria KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 14	Posted - 2014.12.09 23:13:00 - [243] - Quote Dear Diary, Chapter 1: What a Surprise.... As I was checking out the new features of the recent DUST514 update. Graphical features were a plus, daily bonuses were even pleasing to me. I had read the patch notes and was on the fence about how the entire ordeal would fair with me. So far things were looking up. Squaded up with some buddies, I entered a match and deployed in my Uplink suit to check out the supposed "buff" to the Logistics role that had been mentioned. On my way to an objective, I dropped an uplink and then dropped another at the objective. Everything seemed fine until I ran to another objective and dropped a different kind of uplink. ........... I don't even think I need to say what happened next. Chapter 2: Asinine. One would think, having the bandwidth would be a good idea. In fact, I think it's a great idea, but my findings show that CCP has messed up once again. I can't place uplinks, and have nanohives out at the same time. So, my whole thought process is how am I supposed to help my team?" Honestly, what is the point of even being Logistics anymore if you can't give your teammates SUPPORT with places to spawn or ammunition. This is completely ridiculous. Way to go, CCP. Chapter 3: Nothing More to Say Honestly, I have two options. Either I respec into a different class or I delete this POS game from my console. The whole thing that kept me playing is that I loved being a support role, I wasn't forced into slaying unless I absolutely have to, but now I feel like i'm being forced to actually kill things. wtf. Other than LYING to us about a logistics "buff" that was really a nerf, the 1.10 seems cool, but you didn't just break the camel's back with a straw, you dumped a whole damn mountain on it and crushed it.
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 26	Posted - 2014.12.10 00:00:00 - [244] - Quote I hope they fix all the bandwidth issues on all the suits and on all the equipment. They all say 9sbits and most of equipment fails on me asap lol ( need the different bandwidth tiers per equipment standards) stnd/adv/pro asap lol biggest headache ever today trying to properly fit a suit smh
Pisidon Gmen Ivory Vanguard 40	Posted - 2014.12.10 08:55:00 - [245] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: I am pretty disappointed. Kind of deflated too. i have Uplinks Lv5, Amarr Logi Lv5, Remotes Lv 5, and nanohives Lv4. You have taken all that SP and compressed it into two minutes. Thats all im allowed to play the game for. i used to go around setting uplinks with remote mines on them. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around delivering triage nanohives to the front line. Cant do that anymore. Used to go around putting down anti vehicle traps in the from of proxy mines, or anit personnel traps. Cant do that anymore. All i can do is spend 2 mins deploying, and then im supposed to be a subservient player who is FORCED to either repair or revive at the front lines in a non combat suit. Scouts can use their cloaks anywhere an infinite number to times. Assaults can change to a different weapon/armor setup with no consequences. Slayers can change to a double swarm launcher commando to shoot down a dropship and switch back. Mine is the only role where im not allowed to wield my milions of SP. My unique playstyle is ruined. Everyone else gets to play their role and deploy a bit of equipment an d switch between other roles with no bandwidth. And what was the problem? Spam? You mean people that drop 50 manohives at a supply depot? Thats not what i was doing. What about all the tryhard PC obsessed players? Are they still able to carry 1 uplink/nanohive in on their favorite proto suit? 6 players each bringing one nanohive is more destructive than the 3 that im restricted to now. So congradulations, you gutted my role as a dedicated logi while still enabling those who cannibalize my role. You should atleast have the decency to give a free respec to anyone who is a dedicated logi. Im ruined, i got nothing left. I made my living delivering equipment and setting traps. Im a solo player what am i supposed to do now? PS Merry Christmas thanks for the coal you say it so well but thats ccp for you over kill on the nurff when a simple cant deploy here message would have worked to stop the eq spamm in small spots but hay we got orbitals that kills equipment just no equipment spam to drop them on now

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 13273	Posted - 2014.12.10 09:54:00 - [246] - Quote Alcina Nektaria wrote: Dear Diary, Chapter 1: What a Surprise.... As I was checking out the new features of the recent DUST514 update. Graphical features were a plus, daily bonuses were even pleasing to me. I had read the patch notes and was on the fence about how the entire ordeal would fair with me. So far things were looking up. Squaded up with some buddies, I entered a match and deployed in my Uplink suit to check out the supposed "buff" to the Logistics role that had been mentioned. On my way to an objective, I dropped an uplink and then dropped another at the objective. Everything seemed fine until I ran to another objective and dropped a different kind of uplink. ........... I don't even think I need to say what happened next. Chapter 2: Asinine. One would think, having the bandwidth would be a good idea. In fact, I think it's a great idea, but my findings show that CCP has messed up once again. I can't place uplinks, and have nanohives out at the same time. So, my whole thought process is how am I supposed to help my team?" Honestly, what is the point of even being Logistics anymore if you can't give your teammates SUPPORT with places to spawn or ammunition. This is completely ridiculous. Way to go, CCP. Chapter 3: Nothing More to Say Honestly, I have two options. Either I respec into a different class or I delete this POS game from my console. The whole thing that kept me playing is that I loved being a support role, I wasn't forced into slaying unless I absolutely have to, but now I feel like i'm being forced to actually kill things. wtf. Other than LYING to us about a logistics "buff" that was really a nerf, the 1.10 seems cool, but you didn't just break the camel's back with a straw, you dumped a whole damn mountain on it and crushed it. The current logistics bandwidth is too low, and a fix is underway. You can deploy uplinks and nanohives. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

4lbert Wesker WESKER S.T.A.R.S 13	Posted - 2014.12.10 12:47:00 - [247] - Quote i solved ALL missions and didn't got 2 Gunnlogi's as a reward.Another bug? I punched camel once,and it meows at me
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2626	Posted - 2014.12.10 16:14:00 - [248] - Quote Ratticate wrote: Quote: Believe it or not. That is the only established learning curve that exists in DUST. Having players try and make STD and ADV suits relevant against proto suit vets. Its pretty much how everyone that plays has gotten better. Being able to take a STD or ADV suit and make something out of it in competition. It makes you better at the game. Where wearing proto only really makes you better at knowing how to run proto. Your skills usually remain stagnate. I have to disagree with you, playing as a STD or ADV suits would not make you any better at the game, if anything when you use these suits it makes you more careless because there is a minuscule cost for these. When I got the prototype dropsuits, I deleted any STD/ADV fittings I had because when you have proto, why would you use anything else (except when you know you're probably going to die a lot of times in a match, then I understand.) Example: If you had to choose between a Honda and a Lamborghini, which would you choose, and would the honda make you a better driver than if you were driving a Lambourghini Are you trying to tell me it's the Car that makes the driver? Or the Suit that makes the player? Has never worked this way.. The player who can perform and make perform a TD and ADV suit in competition is a player who has gained significant skill in the game. The Player who thinks they need proto to be as good as everyone has not gained much for skill. Nearly everyone at the top has gone through this learning curve. The People who understand it are the people who continue to improve even after a few years playing. There is a learning curve in regards to learning how to use Proto-type suits at a profit in pubs? but that is a different lesson.
Ratticate Y.A.M.A.H 4	Posted - 2014.12.10 17:45:00 - [249] - Quote Quote: Ratticate wrote: Quote: Believe it or not. That is the only established learning curve that exists in DUST. Having players try and make STD and ADV suits relevant against proto suit vets. Its pretty much how everyone that plays has gotten better. Being able to take a STD or ADV suit and make something out of it in competition. It makes you better at the game. Where wearing proto only really makes you better at knowing how to run proto. Your skills usually remain stagnate. I have to disagree with you, playing as a STD or ADV suits would not make you any better at the game, if anything when you use these suits it makes you more careless because there is a minuscule cost for these. When I got the prototype dropsuits, I deleted any STD/ADV fittings I had because when you have proto, why would you use anything else (except when you know you're probably going to die a lot of times in a match, then I understand.) Example: If you had to choose between a Honda and a Lamborghini, which would you choose, and would the honda make you a better driver than if you were driving a Lambourghini Are you trying to tell me it's the Car that makes the driver? Or the Suit that makes the player? Has never worked this way.. The player who can perform and make perform a STD and ADV suit in competition is a player who has gained significant skill in the game. The Player who thinks they need proto to be as good as everyone has not gained much for skill. Oh and it doesn't matter what suit your in.. People don't like dieing. Nearly everyone at the top has gone through this learning curve. The People who understand it are the people who continue to improve even after a few years playing. There is a learning curve in regards to learning how to use Proto-type suits at a profit in pubs? but that is a different lesson. I'm not saying that having a prototype suit makes you any better in the game, for instance I usually only run STD suits except if I need to, in say a factional when there are 16 Q-syncing fatal absolutionists (true story). What I am saying is that playing as a STD or ADV would not make you any better than being a PRO, in fact you have probably played spent a lot of time as a STD/ADV just because of having to save up you're skill points. The point I am trying to make is that using STD or ADV suits do not make any better than if you are using a PRO suit, and using PRO suits do not make you any better than if you are using a STD or ADV suits. CASE CLOSED P.S., you should have read my example more carefully, I wasn't trying to say that the Lamborghini made you a better driver than the Honda, I'm saying they both would improve your driving skill equally, one is just more expensive and nicer looking than the other. A proud member of the Y.A.M.A.H. corporation, apply today to one of the fastest growing corps out there!
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2378	Posted - 2014.12.11 04:47:00 - [250] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Ratticate wrote: Quote: Believe it or not. That is the only established learning curve that exists in DUST. Having players try and make STD and ADV suits relevant against proto suit vets. Its pretty much how everyone that plays has gotten better. Being able to take a STD or ADV suit and make something out of it in competition. It makes you better at the game. Where wearing proto only really makes you better at knowing how to run proto. Your skills usually remain stagnate. I have to disagree with you, playing as a STD or ADV suits would not make you any better at the game, if anything when you use these suits it makes you more careless because there is a minuscule cost for these. When I got the prototype dropsuits, I deleted any STD/ADV fittings I had because when you have proto, why would you use anything else (except when you know you're probably going to die a lot of times in a match, then I understand.) Example: If you had to choose between a Honda and a Lamborghini, which would you choose, and would the honda make you a better driver than if you were driving a Lambourghini Are you trying to tell me it's the Car that makes the driver? Or the Suit that makes the player? Has never worked this way.. The player who can perform and make perform a STD and ADV suit in competition is a player who has gained significant skill in the game. The Player who thinks they need proto to be as good as everyone has not gained much for skill. Oh and it doesn't matter what suit your in.. People don't like dieing. Nearly everyone at the top has gone through this learning curve. The People who understand it are the people who continue to improve even after a few years playing. There is a learning curve in regards to learning how to use Proto-type suits at a profit in pubs? but that is a different lesson. +1 Agreed. PSN: RationalSpark

Revrac Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 0	Posted - 2014.12.11 23:42:00 - [251] - Quote I believe that the new orbital strikes are genius for keeping enemies from simply getting up high and raining fire down from a tower or something. this was a huge problem in my opinion because this made the game so ungodly boring. When a team makes a decision to use this tactic no ground is ever gained. Next I hope to see some new game modes. Perhaps a racing mode where we can have a driver and gunner in an lav. And put them in an environment (perhaps an erupting volcano) that we must not only escape from, but also survive the enemies that are trying to escape themselves. Or just some PVE. Cory Matthewson
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 296	Posted - 2014.12.12 07:45:00 - [252] - Quote Wow, another one already? Awesome! Though there will be a lot of bugfixing for new features, its so cool to see things flowing again. Hopes for PVE rising ... rising ... RISING ... falling again ... The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Ratticate Y.A.M.A.H 9	Posted - 2014.12.12 18:36:00 - [253] - Quote Haven't completed all ten daily missions in a day yet, but if you did, would you get something special? Excuse me if this was in the patch notes. A proud member of the Y.A.M.A.H. corporation, apply today to one of the fastest growing corps out there!
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6721	Posted - 2014.12.12 22:14:00 - [254] - Quote Ratticate wrote: Haven't completed all ten daily missions in a day yet, but if you did, would you get something special? Excuse me if this was in the patch notes. The item on the right is given if the required amount is completed Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 299	Posted - 2014.12.16 08:30:00 - [255] - Quote I played some sessions now and I love the missions. Thanks for that! The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
HUGH MANITY C0NTRA UNIT RUST415 3	Posted - 2014.12.16 23:03:00 - [256] - Quote Well, that`s it for me. This game has turned into something that Zynga would be proud to call their own. I will quit now before I start receiving cows and chickens, and have to harvest my crops. Dust has become Farm-ville , and if I wanted to be pressured into logging in everyday and playing for hours for virtual rewards on an endless loop , I would play Zynga`s flash games on Facebook.. Dust is over, and so am I.
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 208	Posted - 2014.12.18 10:53:00 - [257] - Quote HUGH MANITY wrote: to be pressured into logging in everyday and playing for hours Where the hell are you "pressured" into playing DUST? Yes, I'm that desperate...
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 5	Posted - 2014.12.18 18:39:00 - [258] - Quote Turn Dev Blog into a battleground of opinions: CHECK In Dust 514, dying is a part of life.
endezeichen grimm Brothers Grimm 666 10	Posted - 2014.12.20 16:32:00 - [259] - Quote Why do uplinks and nanohives disappear shortly after you drop them? They have seriously **** the game up Simplify the graphics and make the game run smooth!**
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1703	Posted - 2014.12.21 20:31:00 - [260] - Quote endezeichen grimm wrote: Why do uplinks and nanohives disappear shortly after you drop them? They have seriously ****** the game up because people kept spamming equipment. abuse the game and this is what happens, always the select few ruining it for everyone else. personally I have no complaints, I can put down 5 uplinks from my Cal Logi, switch to assault and they're still there. A fix is underway for logi bandwidth as CCP have admitted it is too low. Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub! DUST VIDEOS

XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 11	Posted - 2014.12.22 22:26:00 - [261] - Quote LOVING THIS UPDATE SO MUCH Just one thing, could you make it easier to open strongboxes, cuz I got 80 strongboxes and will probably get 80 more before I find a key. In Dust 514, dying is a part of life.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1225	Posted - 2014.12.25 15:19:00 - [262] - Quote Man, this game has the whiniest most change-averse playerbase I've ever seen. It's really sad. Loving the changes, guys. Keep it up! Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
AT aka YoungDrew Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 0	Posted - 2015.01.01 03:37:00 - [263] - Quote CCP. Why do I dc ALL THE TIME! I dc'd SIX times today! What is going on? Is it because I only spent $5 on this game? I can't even type "lol" because I'm not laughing right now. I'm really REALLY mad right now.
Gideon McAllistar TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 53	Posted - 2015.01.03 01:06:00 - [264] - Quote AT aka YoungDrew wrote: CCP. Why do I dc ALL THE TIME! I dc'd SIX times today! What is going on? Is it because I only spent $5 on this game? I can't even type "lol" because I'm not laughing right now. I'm really REALLY mad right now. You dc because you're playing Dust. First mistake right there. Please give me AI bots instead of blueberries, CCP. PLEASE! Unless . . . You already have . . .
Jaed D'jaegweir Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 32	Posted - 2015.01.04 23:14:00 - [265] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: LOVING THIS UPDATE SO MUCH Just one thing, could you make it easier to open strongboxes, cuz I got 80 strongboxes and will probably get 80 more before I find a key. Only 80 strong boxes? let us know when you reach 500 like most of us here, BTW only got 1 key since this started. "We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 15	Posted - 2015.01.05 23:57:00 - [266] - Quote Jaed D'jaegweir wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: LOVING THIS UPDATE SO MUCH Just one thing, could you make it easier to open strongboxes, cuz I got 80 strongboxes and will probably get 80 more before I find a key. Only 80 strong boxes? let us know when you reach 500 like most of us here, BTW only got 1 key since this started. I just reached 500 but don't worry I found one decryptor key! Oh what am I going to do with the rest of these. A proud member of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment
thehellisgoingon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 113	Posted - 2015.01.06 06:21:00 - [267] - Quote 1103 strongboxes. And... ohh wait. +ù7 more strongboxes.
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 16	Posted - 2015.01.06 18:06:00 - [268] - Quote thehellisgoingon wrote: 1103 strongboxes. And... ohh wait. +ù7 more strongboxes. Story of my life. A proud member of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment
Mex JumpnBean86 WarRavens Capital Punishment. 0	Posted - 2015.01.18 04:34:00 - [269] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, On 9th of December, DUST 514-« will be updated with the release of Uprising 1.10. This update will add a number of features and changes specifically requested by the community and here you will find a brief explanation on the biggest upcoming changes: * New Orbital Strikes in Public Contracts, Small EMP Strike, Large EMP Strike and Laser Strike * New Visual Effects * Daily Missions and Rewards * Loyalty Ranks displayed in the Kill Feed * Encrypted Strongboxes with rare gear * Gameplay Experience Improvements, Equipment Bandwidth & Scan Changes + DUST 514 Development Roadmap, Trello board for your feedback, and much more! Read on! And feel free to leave your comment in this thread :) Why are you letting people hack dust. Way too many funky things are happening on dust. One day Im doing great the next day I feel like I've been nerft. I know my game play isn't bad enough to play one day with a 3.0 kd then the next day .30 coz its all funky Im losing faith in dust. Worst match making game ever. Full proto side vs one squad. Its not that had to fix match making . Learn from cod a fix it please.
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KiIIed With Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.01.19 03:24:00 - [271] - Quote ghhbg wrote: sgjksdnklz<:>X" ?sdgfadgnbv ??
DaemonVok Axis of Chaos 0	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:00:00 - [272] - Quote Dear CCP, I was just driving around in a proto tank, when I got hit by a billion swarms. Naturally I survived. So when I drove back to the red line for my modules to ensure survival for my next run, I stopped at a supply depot for ammo. I pulled up the map to spot enemy vehicles, and saw my own tank driving around. Confused, I closed the map to find I'm falling through the map. You owe me 620k isk.......
Henrietta Unknown Band O' Commandos 764	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:10:00 - [273] - Quote DaemonVok wrote: Dear CCP, I was just driving around in a proto tank, when I got hit by a billion swarms. Naturally I survived. So when I drove back to the red line for my modules to ensure survival for my next run, I stopped at a supply depot for ammo. I pulled up the map to spot enemy vehicles, and saw my own tank driving around. Confused, I closed the map to find I'm falling through the map. You owe me 620k isk....... This is the known falling-through-the-map bug. Applies only to vehicles, under a structure or on certain parts of the map. Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
DaemonVok Axis of Chaos 0	Posted - 2015.01.24 20:20:00 - [274] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: DaemonVok wrote: Dear CCP, I was just driving around in a proto tank, when I got hit by a billion swarms. Naturally I survived. So when I drove back to the red line for my modules to ensure survival for my next run, I stopped at a supply depot for ammo. I pulled up the map to spot enemy vehicles, and saw my own tank driving around. Confused, I closed the map to find I'm falling through the map. You owe me 620k isk....... This is the known falling-through-the-map bug. Applies only to vehicles, under a structure or on certain parts of the map. I know it's known. I've been here since closed beta. I'm just annoyed that it is still happening... I'd like to be able to do as I do, fear no AV, vehicle or otherwise, and dominate when I call out my missile buddies. Instead I trapes around in fear of the only harmless thing in the game. The ground.
thehellisgoingon MONSTER SYNERGY 161	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:04:00 - [275] - Quote Jaed D'jaegweir wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: LOVING THIS UPDATE SO MUCH Just one thing, could you make it easier to open strongboxes, cuz I got 80 strongboxes and will probably get 80 more before I find a key. Only 80 strong boxes? let us know when you reach 500 like most of us here, BTW only got 1 key since this started. Noob. Let me know when ur scratching the surface of around 2000


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