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Meee One wrote:

el OPERATOR wrote:

Meee One wrote:

Vell0cet wrote:

el OPERATOR wrote:

Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit.

it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi...

I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW.

"But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff"
-They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too
-Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed

"But logistics users who want to switch suits to help"
-Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit.

"REs and Proxies should be immune from BW"
-the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would.
-stop trying to get scouts immune from BW

Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW.

"Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!"
1)Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF.

"Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!"
2)Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier.3) And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi.

"Well, this will make Logis respected!"
4)No, scrub. 5)This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. 6) You want respect? Earn that ****.And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field.

and so on and so forth...

1)A nerf to spammers.
Do you really need more than 8 uplinks in a dom?
Or even a skirm?

2)They'll die ALOT trying to run a logistics like an assault + high costs = short stay

3)I've suggested 'supporting the support' WP incentives before,but my thread(s) got locked.

4)Yes,insults will make you seem 1000% more valid.

5)Logistics aren't waterboys?
5a)logistics reps (towels off)
5b)logistics refills (gives drinks)
-Logistics ARE servants and are designed to serve other suits,however,this in no way makes them any less significant.

6)I,personally,never used more than 3-4 deployables at a time,so my 'capabilities' will be just fine.
It's those that spam 20 uplinks in a small city area that'll be hurting.
6a)My suit already limits my abilities,or have you forgotten logistics have less eHP and less speed.
6b)My skill in making up for those lost abilities is what earns me respect,most can't or won't run logistics because they are so heavily gimped.

We are getting off track,if you wish to continue this discussion,you know which thread i'll be monitoring. Blink

Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.

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el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 591	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:02:00 - [181] - Quote doublepost Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1360	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:09:00 - [182] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1360	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:11:00 - [183] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Then you,my good sir,are in the wrong role. Killing is for self defense,in logistics case. If you feel compelled to kill,you may want to switch to assaults. I however will continue being a real logibro,using my allies as meat shields,and having them kill things for me.(as it was intended) And I will continue as well. Albeit neutered except in incidents of blobbing, which is the playstyle now predetermined for Logistics. Better a live blob than a dead one,amirite? Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 592	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:51:00 - [184] - Quote Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. Then you,my good sir,are in the wrong role. Killing is for self defense,in logistics case. If you feel compelled to kill,you may want to switch to assaults. I however will continue being a real logibro,using my allies as meat shields,and having them kill things for me.(as it was intended) And I will continue as well. Albeit neutered except in incidents of blobbing, which is the playstyle now predetermined for Logistics. Better a live blob than a dead one,amirite? Sure. And there's more to battlefield logistics than just being the soft center of a donutblob. I mean, there was more. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 593	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:03:00 - [185] - Quote Meee One wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW. "Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!" Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF. "Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!" Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier. And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi. "Well, this will make Logis respected!" No, scrub. This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. You want respect? Earn that ****. And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field. and so on and so forth... Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
castba Rogue Instincts 667	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:35:00 - [186] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap For those that didn't notice the link in the DevBlog. Yes, you are reading that right for Febuary, the Uprising is over. Simple Trading GUYS HERE WE GO! I'm not brave enough to look at the other Trello cards... Coupled with Planet Raiding. Yes, I know it is on "backlog" but... OH MY! "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC 524	Posted - 2014.12.04 00:52:00 - [187] - Quote How about you award new players with their only special missions that give them SP and not just isk? Maybe 5,000 SP for this, 10,000 SP for that. Only loyal to the republic.
Dauth Jenkins Titans of Phoenix 572	Posted - 2014.12.04 02:15:00 - [188] - Quote So... why hasnt anyone mentioned the most important update in 1.10? CCP, thank you for finally updating the fitting screen info. It was quite annoying to not be able to see exactly how much my regulators are changing my suits without pulling out a calculator. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 280	Posted - 2014.12.04 02:38:00 - [189] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. In the name of all Non-Scouts I sincerely thank them as well, minus your sarcasm. As in real sincerity.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 712	Posted - 2014.12.04 02:51:00 - [190] - Quote To all the logis QQ'ing about bandwidth, I have a question. Why? With an Advanced Cal Logi, I can drop 2 Triage Nanohives, 2 regular nanohives, and 2 RE's. If it is that big of deal to want to drop more stuff, get your Proto on. With that, you can drop pretty much whatever the hell you want. Question, though. What is the bandwidth going to be for uplinks? I didn't see it on the overview. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.

Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 33	Posted - 2014.12.04 05:21:00 - [191] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Greiv Rabbah wrote: Wait so by missions... Hold on, EPIC? This sounds better than khanid cereal in freshly thawed dairy! You mean story is finally being brought into dust, slavage and looting are upcoming, and in a couple months were looking at a new expansion with player trading, warbarges, and other awesomeness? Don't tease me, this really makes me want to recruit more ppl to this game even though my old recruits all quit playing. Its a shame I have to wait a week to see any of this happen Edit: saw the missions and strongboxes pictures. Would like more variation in the missions, but for now this is really awesome. i hope branching from this that we may see sleeper drones(they could use the old super aggressive turret installation ai) because although I want mtacs, i know a lot of ppl that would be pulled in by questing, player trading, and pve. anyway really really aqesone stuff I feel the need to try to control your expectationsGÇª Read the missions in the image. Calling these GÇ£missionsGÇ¥ might be overstating what they are a little bit. They are more like GÇ£challengesGÇ¥. But still a good step in the right direction. I see the "missions" and "salvage" as trying to emulate the Gameplay experience they intend for Legion, in DUST, as best they can given DUST's current limiting structure. Edit: I don't think we are likely to see Sleeper Drones... But we could have this. I saw the image, my expectations are well under control. And I am still as excited as I was initially. These "missions" are a good starting point and introduce the means for a more fleshed out set of actual quests intothe client. For a patch, tthat's all we need. Missions can then be updated through server side updates or hotfixes. Re: your edit, I think sleeper drones(which they have art assets for small, medium, and large drones BTW) that use the aggressive turret ai with some new code for moving and patrolling are just as plausible as the proposed new game mode(this running the gauntlet style Dom that's been outlined in ur link) except I'd give the edge to sleeper drones for the reasons that 1) everybody wants sleeper drone battle pve and 2) there are storyline reasons why sleeper drones should be a thing in dust
Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 33	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:24:00 - [192] - Quote Hyuan BubblePOP wrote: fix the abuse players do @ supply depots when someones tries to hack it, the team with the supply depot can cancel the hack by accessing the supply depot. :( You're talking about hacking a secured point... Srsly? Wait, no. I agree. Please also fix the exact same bug with vehicles and installations, because I also can't hack a turret that has a squad around it bc ppl keep using it to shoot my allies. And I keep having to actually fight tanks bc for some reason I can't hack them while someone's driving it. Oh and also, I'm having some trouble counterhacking letters while an opponent is in the middle of hacking it. Now, before anyone loses their marbles here, I'm being sarcastic. A heavily defended hack point that is currently in use is ridiculously secure and should require either enough sneakiness to steal the point out from under all their noses or enough force to deal with the players securing that point. Please think about this before making such posts, you didn't make a lot of sense there. You want to hack a supply depot with lots of ppl around it fine. I do it all the time. Be ready to hack it 3 times bc ppl will keep using it if they don't notice you. And be ready for a fight if they do notice you

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 12822	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:29:00 - [193] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 451	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:31:00 - [194] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? I wouldn't mind if the OB's could have all the colors of the Rainbow = OMG !!! MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 97	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:45:00 - [195] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Well...there isn't really any progression in terms of laser crystals in eve aside from the tech 2 crystals for beam lasers Gleam - Mid-Short Range, High-Mid Damage, Bright White Beam Aurora - Long range, Lower Damage, Crimson Red Beam For Pulse Lasers (Scrambler) Scorch - Mid-Long Range, Mid-High Damage, Purple Laser Pulses Conflagration - Short-Mid Range, High Damage, Green Laser Pulses I'd Like to see the Vanilla Scrambler Rifle using Scorch, while the Assault Variant uses Conflag...Don't know what to do for the Laser Rifle though Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1363	Posted - 2014.12.04 06:53:00 - [196] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Vell0cet wrote: So what options go away besides being a tourist logi? Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW. "Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!" 1)Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF. "Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!" 2)Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier.3) And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi. "Well, this will make Logis respected!" 4)No, scrub. 5)This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. 6) You want respect? Earn that ****.And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field. and so on and so forth... 1)A nerf to spammers. Do you really need more than 8 uplinks in a dom? Or even a skirm? 2)They'll die ALOT trying to run a logistics like an assault + high costs = short stay 3)I've suggested 'supporting the support' WP incentives before,but my thread(s) got locked. 4)Yes,insults will make you seem 1000% more valid. 5)Logistics aren't waterboys? 5a)logistics reps (towels off) 5b)logistics refills (gives drinks) -Logistics ARE servants and are designed to serve other suits,however,this in no way makes them any less significant. 6)I,personally,never used more than 3-4 deployables at a time,so my 'capabilities' will be just fine. It's those that spam 20 uplinks in a small city area that'll be hurting. 6a)My suit already limits my abilities,or have you forgotten logistics have less eHP and less speed. 6b)My skill in making up for those lost abilities is what earns me respect,most can't or won't run logistics because they are so heavily gimped. We are getting off track,if you wish to continue this discussion,you know which thread i'll be monitoring. Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2641	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:07:00 - [197] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? In EVE the colors are based on range (and should remain that way in DUST IMO). If we ever had short/medium/long range LR, ScR variants (or even vehicle turrets or heavy laser beam weapons!), I think range would be more appropriate use of color as the games should remain consistent on laser colors for lore and just because there's no good reason not to. In EVE pulse lasers: Shortest to longest range: Multifrequency (white) Conflagration (green, T2) Gamma (blue) Xray (green) Ultraviolet (purple) Standard (yellow) Infrared (red-orange) Microwave (yellow-orange) Scorch (purple, T2) Radio (red) Best PvE idea ever!
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1720	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:20:00 - [198] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Based on crystals rattati. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Standard_Crystals:Small https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Advanced_Beam_Laser_Crystals:Small https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Frequency_Crystals:Advanced_Pulse_Laser_Crystals:Small Shorter range = more damage. 'Advanced' crystals are modified versions of other crystals and fall into two categories, short range and long range (for each weapon, pulse lasers are short, beam lasers are long). Scorch (long pulse) = Ultraviolet Conflagrate (short pulse) = Xray Gleam (short beam) = Multifrequency (white) Aurora (long beam) = Radio Otherwise colors are the same as crystals. And visual representation of all the colors: http://www.eve-tribune.com/5_21/contest2.jpg or higher quality: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bnmFIL7BqKs/UkICsCSl37I/AAAAAAAAAeU/77nFlEGvdJI/s1600/abaddon-rainbow.jpg Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 599	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:28:00 - [199] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: To all the logis QQ'ing about bandwidth, I have a question. Why? With an Advanced Cal Logi, I can drop 2 Triage Nanohives, 2 regular nanohives, and 2 RE's. If it is that big of deal to want to drop more stuff, get your Proto on. With that, you can drop pretty much whatever the hell you want. Question, though. What is the bandwidth going to be for uplinks? I didn't see it on the overview. Some answers are in the bandwidth feedback sticky in Features and Ideas. Or were, its locked now so may have been moved to the archives by now. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 599	Posted - 2014.12.04 07:56:00 - [200] - Quote Meee One wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Meee One wrote: Vell0cet wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Any one that requires anything more than babysitting. Oh, and NOT slaying from a Logi suit. it sounds like you're upset that you can't be a tourist logi... I've noticed "true logis" have some of the most ridiculous excuses for disliking BW. "But i can't use 30 pieces of equipment by myself,imma throw a tantrum and kill stuff" -They forget they are part of a team,and should let their team help too -Even if the team is bad,it still shouldn't be allowed "But logistics users who want to switch suits to help" -Those aren't logibros,those are other roles trying to look like logibros,real logibros wouldn't switch unless it's to refill equipment on their current suit. "REs and Proxies should be immune from BW" -the explosive itself doesn't need BW i'll admit,but the charging device to set it off would. -stop trying to get scouts immune from BW Just as I noticed "true logis" having ridiculous excuses as to why they liked BW. "Well, it nerfs us but nerfs everyone else more!" 1)Exactly, its a nerf. And a nerf whose redemption is that is nerfs everyone is still a NERF. "Well, this will make Logis more valuable and inspire the mindless hordes to leap to our defense!!" 2)Not likely. What it WILL do is have tons of people floating around in non-support logi fits trying to preserve the BW of w/e they used earlier.3) And the hordes will leap to your defense when they get 60WP for a kill but 120WP for kills against those who threaten the logi. "Well, this will make Logis respected!" 4)No, scrub. 5)This will make you the waterboy bitchtard that you have been described as by every Slayer to ever play. 6) You want respect? Earn that ***.And No, you're not going to earn it by limiting your capabilities on-field. and so on and so forth... 1)A nerf to spammers. Do you really need more than 8 uplinks in a dom? Or even a skirm? 2)They'll die ALOT trying to run a logistics like an assault + high costs = short stay 3)I've suggested 'supporting the support' WP incentives before,but my thread(s) got locked. 4)Yes,insults will make you seem 1000% more valid. 5)Logistics aren't waterboys? 5a)logistics reps (towels off) 5b)logistics refills (gives drinks) -Logistics ARE servants and are designed to serve other suits,however,this in no way makes them any less significant. 6)I,personally,never used more than 3-4 deployables at a time,so my 'capabilities' will be just fine. It's those that spam 20 uplinks in a small city area that'll be hurting. 6a)My suit already limits my abilities,or have you forgotten logistics have less eHP and less speed. 6b)My skill in making up for those lost abilities is what earns me respect,most can't or won't run logistics because they are so heavily gimped. We are getting off track,if you wish to continue this discussion,you know which thread i'll be monitoring. 1. A nerf to everybody to nerf spammers = spammers win. A nerf to spammer that doesnt nerf the rest of us? That would = spammers lose. 2. They'll run as slayers, not assaults. I'd explain, but won't. 3. So, what does that tell you about BW? 4. Pump those brakes and slow that roll, thats not my insult to you. Thats an often phrased insult to US. 5+ Logistics is NOT servitude, bro. Yes, our functionality does include repair and resupply but it neither defines* us nor should we be exclusively limited by that. YES logistics includes that. NO Logistics is not totally defined by that. I'm glad you've found a nice and cozy place for yourself solely supporting your squad by serving their direct momentary needs. I'm disappointed that in all the tme you've spent running "Logistics" you haven't yet seen or realized squad and team support outside of those moments and our place in those other areas. You want to be and are okay with being the waterboy? Fine by me. But don't make that your justification for ******* up my ability to do more. Chess, not Checkers, is why I'm here. Plenty of sandbox lobby shooters already exist, Tactical Strategy Shooters? Not so much and after BW not as much here either. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.

Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3229	Posted - 2014.12.04 08:17:00 - [201] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Can you do random rainbow color per shot for the officer ScR? That would be hilarious. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Skybladev2 LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 137	Posted - 2014.12.04 09:13:00 - [202] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: To clarify, players can request to be a part of the Community Crowdsourcing Trello by sending an email to [email protected]. Then they can add ideas directly to the Board. Anyone got approved? Still no answer to me, positive or negative. <[^_^]>
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 493	Posted - 2014.12.04 09:40:00 - [203] - Quote Just throwing this out there, Have the lazor rifle go through the enitre rainbow spectrum, the longer you fire, the more intense the color change. Purple to blue to green to yellow to orange to red to white Lets the lazor guy know how much the damage dps increased, warns the guy getting lazooooored and looks awesome. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 456	Posted - 2014.12.04 10:31:00 - [204] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: "Enemy orientation has been removed from all scan results as it was deemed too powerful" There is more players playing as Heavy, Assault, Logistics in this game then Scouts, for with ones this change is life or dead change. Is this is how crowd sourcing should work? If you are really that good at listen to the opinion of the crowd the next 'thing' touched by CCP will be removing RE from the game. In the name of all Scouts I'm sincerely thank you for removing mechanic that kept '250HP' Scouts alive in this game. In the name of all Non-Scouts I sincerely thank them as well, minus your sarcasm. As in real sincerity. If really Non-Scouts wanted so much to remove those orientation arrows, this change should apply only to them(Medium, Heavy, Basic Light suits). Scouts should get more intel from ewar bonuses, mostly because they are "Scouts". Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1725	Posted - 2014.12.04 11:05:00 - [205] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Just throwing this out there, Have the lazor rifle go through the enitre rainbow spectrum, the longer you fire, the more intense the color change. Purple to blue to green to yellow to orange to red to white Lets the lazor guy know how much the damage dps increased, warns the guy getting lazooooored and looks awesome. But its Base damage + (number of shots fired consecutively * [.85-1.10... or more, based on tier) = damage per shot. Heat isn't a factor. And each of those crystals has a different profile even though they're almost all em and thermal damage they have different weightings of it, they also modify capacitor use and range... so would a laser that fired 80 shots drop from 110m optimal to 74m optimal to 37m optimal as it gains heat? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Sgt Pseudo Gummibaerenbande 514 RUST415 65	Posted - 2014.12.04 11:13:00 - [206] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: As a side note, I'm curious if Scrambler/LR beams are going to be changing as you move up tiers, are going to have fixed colors, or... what. I always loved the color variety in crystals for the lasers in EVE. You could have a bank of rainbow cannons on the broadside of your ship. For my interest, what is the progression in colors in EVE? Please CCP. let me do this in DUST! >Misquoting a dev is a bananable offense `CCP Rattati`
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 493	Posted - 2014.12.04 11:21:00 - [207] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Just throwing this out there, Have the lazor rifle go through the enitre rainbow spectrum, the longer you fire, the more intense the color change. Purple to blue to green to yellow to orange to red to white Lets the lazor guy know how much the damage dps increased, warns the guy getting lazooooored and looks awesome. But its Base damage + (number of shots fired consecutively * [.85-1.10... or more, based on tier) = damage per shot. Heat isn't a factor. And each of those crystals has a different profile even though they're almost all em and thermal damage they have different weightings of it, they also modify capacitor use and range... so would a laser that fired 80 shots drop from 110m optimal to 74m optimal to 37m optimal as it gains heat? Yeah, the way imaigins basic coding to work (and i know NOTHING about coding) IF consecutive shots > OR = total x THEN color = r,b ,g . The damage goes up with a separate calculation and both damage and color change happen to sync up to look cool. Or IF base damage + (number of shots fired consecutively * [.85-1.10) > OR = damage x Then color =R,B, G Devs, you know better than me, is this possible? Or people who know C++ does this even make sense? Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Skybladev2 LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 138	Posted - 2014.12.04 13:17:00 - [208] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Squads in Public Contracts will now be able to earn additional Off-Map Support in the form of EMP Warbarge Strikes, bombardments that only affects shields and deployed equipment, and Laser Warbarge Strikes, a high powered surgical strike, each obtained for a specific amount of War Points. Could you write down final numbers? <[^_^]>
Laurent Cazaderon What The French Red Whines. 2359	Posted - 2014.12.04 13:52:00 - [209] - Quote I'm glad when i look at 1.9 and 1.10 patchnotes. This is exactly the kind of work Dust needs, and more importantly (and sadly), needed a year+ ago. In the end, i dont know if i'm more glad or sad about it. Farming your likes since 2012
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 21	Posted - 2014.12.04 14:18:00 - [210] - Quote To All The Dumb-Tards That Claim To Be Logistical ( Logi ) Combative players. Definition: Logistics "the New Oxford American Dictionary defines logistics as "the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies," and the Oxford Dictionary on-line defines it as "the detailed organization and implementation of a complex operation." According to the Council of Logistics Management,[2] logistics includes the integrated planning, control, realization, and monitoring of all internal and network-wide material, part, and product flow, for the purpose of conforming to customer requirements. Logistics is the process of planning, implementing, and controlling the effective and efficient flow of goods and services from the point of origin to the point of consumption." To Explain it in Layman's Terms: Shoving a rep tool up a Heavies crack or a Commandos spine doesn't make you a Logi. Spamming 100 droplinks and Nanohives on a map drawing pictures of cartoons doesn't make you a logi ( funny as hell though lol ) - a logi is the one that keeps the whole team alive and aware of his surroundings , relaying information , dropping tactic Droplinks and Hives when needed. ( enough said. You get the point ) don't like scrub lazy player's making w.p's off some dumb shyt like that and lagging out the system. But thanks to this new update all that nonsense will be over.



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