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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.23 16:59:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:InsidiousN wrote:Why are console players being prohibited from entering the EVE Universe? Because new Eden is too good and too complex for you. There's no proper mmo experience on console to draw upon for feedback and by mmo I mean mmo, not diablo or other such nonsense that wishes it was an mmo. What console players consider 'new and fresh' is ALWAYS dated in comparison. I play both and have done for longer than a lot of dusters have even been alive. Even destiny, apparently an mmo, is just as much an instanced lobby shooter as any other. Just some re hashed rubbish with good graphics. Dust coming to console was just wrong from the get go. Most of the feedback was just mediocre rubbish like game modes and weapons with nerfs and buffs, nothing that was actually revolutionary or amazing. Console players lack the scope needed for decent game feedback, ps4 is the console catching up but the games that are available are nothing new or amazing at all. The graphics are good though........
What do you consider Final Fantasy XIV????? its an mmo for ps3 so your wrong about that. MMos can thrive on consoles without a problem.
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
166
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Posted - 2014.07.23 17:02:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:InsidiousN wrote:Why are console players being prohibited from entering the EVE Universe? Because new Eden is too good and too complex for you. There's no proper mmo experience on console to draw upon for feedback and by mmo I mean mmo, not diablo or other such nonsense that wishes it was an mmo. What console players consider 'new and fresh' is ALWAYS dated in comparison. I play both and have done for longer than a lot of dusters have even been alive. Even destiny, apparently an mmo, is just as much an instanced lobby shooter as any other. Just some re hashed rubbish with good graphics. Dust coming to console was just wrong from the get go. Most of the feedback was just mediocre rubbish like game modes and weapons with nerfs and buffs, nothing that was actually revolutionary or amazing. Console players lack the scope needed for decent game feedback, ps4 is the console catching up but the games that are available are nothing new or amazing at all. The graphics are good though........ What do you consider Final Fantasy XIV????? its an mmo for ps3 so your wrong about that. MMos can thrive on consoles without a problem.
Thank you for proving my point.
60 people per server, there's more people in a single bf4 match than that.
Service with a smile
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501st Headstrong
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
384
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:53:00 -
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Wait a moment...are you calling us stupid?
From the Clone Wars I came. Here I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men
CEO of G0DS AM0NG MEN
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
123
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Posted - 2014.07.23 22:00:00 -
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Don't forget about DCUO, and just because it has a small server size does not mean anything. Its still perfectly balanced as a game.
More people playing on a server does not equal a better game......if anything more people on a server means more chance of there being lag. |
RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
168
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Posted - 2014.07.23 22:14:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Don't forget about DCUO, and just because it has a small server size does not mean anything. Its still perfectly balanced as a game.
More people playing on a server does not equal a better game......if anything more people on a server means more chance of there being lag.
When they cheap out, yeah.
And no 501st, its to do with experience, you can't draw decent feedback from people who are console centric.
Its always mediocre, inside the box type thinking but ps4 will see the evolution of console centric gamers, the hardware will allow for much better games and especially with that 8 core beast.
There's not even anything that uses all the ps4s power yet, planetside 2 will be great for sure. The os4 can handle something like 2 million things on the screen at once with that CPU and its relatively light os will be grand........once something thats actually decent comes out that uses it all.
Service with a smile
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
168
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Posted - 2014.07.23 22:18:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Don't forget about DCUO, and just because it has a small server size does not mean anything. Its still perfectly balanced as a game.
More people playing on a server does not equal a better game......if anything more people on a server means more chance of there being lag.
I forgot to add, on console, you guys seem to think that a lot of people playing makes it an mmo.
An mmo on PC is expected to have a lot of players in the same space.
I play planetside 2 and iv been in battles with at least 400 people on the screen at once, the maps and battles are huge.
I'm seriously looking forward to that on ps4, you guys are in for a treat.
Service with a smile
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wayrow1
BUSH HUNTERS
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Posted - 2014.07.25 02:49:00 -
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low genius wrote:CCP Rouge wrote:Hi everyone,
Thank you for all of your feedback so far. I'd like to answer a few of your questions about DUST 514 and Project Legion directly given the feedback you gave me. I've picked these four points as they are coming up the most on the forums as well as in the live roundtable discussions here at Fanfest.
1) What happens to my character, skills and stuff?
If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind. You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. We are still working on the details and we will have more to announce soon.
2) Are you completely abandoning DUST dev?
No. Without promising too much, we are actively working on stuff like balancing, Planetary Conquest, matchmaking, the in-game economy, and more. And of course we continue to work with the CPM to identify ways to improve the game.
3) Is Project Legion going to have a PS4 version? Or something for consoles?
It is still far too early to discuss platform expansion, as like you saw we are still only working on the PC prototype at this time. But the PC architecture gives us the opportunity to grow once we have a great PC product at hand. For now, though, PlayStation 4 is not something we are working on.
4) When are you going to give us more concrete information on Legion?
Again, Project Legion is still in an early stage of development but the whole idea behind giving a sneak peek at Fanfest is to get early feedback - and I really want to keep this discussion going, show you progress through dev blogs and such and listen to what you have to say.
Please post your feedback and questions in this thread - and let's keep this conversation going. The team and I will be reading this thread, and I will respond as soon as I can.
CCP Rouge stop asking yourself easy questions so you can look smart. so the exodus to destiny begins |
Guybrush Threeps
K-A-O-S theory
1
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Posted - 2014.07.27 10:08:00 -
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This would be on PS4 if the PS4 weren't ridiculously underpowered. PC is the future of gaming, these "next gen" consoles were a complete flop. Good on ya devs. |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
29
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Posted - 2014.07.27 13:40:00 -
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Guybrush Threeps wrote:This would be on PS4 if the PS4 weren't ridiculously underpowered. PC is the future of gaming, these "next gen" consoles were a complete flop. Good on ya devs. Most people aren't going to shell out the money for a gaming PC. That's one reason going for the PS4 would extend and keep a currently unhappy player base. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5616
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Posted - 2014.07.28 03:02:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Guybrush Threeps wrote:This would be on PS4 if the PS4 weren't ridiculously underpowered. PC is the future of gaming, these "next gen" consoles were a complete flop. Good on ya devs. Most people aren't going to shell out the money for a gaming PC. That's one reason going for the PS4 would extend and keep a currently unhappy player base. Buy a gaming LAPTOP for about 3x the base price of a PS4. Desktop is closer to the price of the new console. Count the fact that PC gaming doesn't require subscription costs. A year down the road, your PS4 price has caught up to the laptop and overtaken the desktop price, but the PCs are more powerful with more utility.
Many - not most - people are going to look at the initial price tag and not think about the subscription costs required for online play on the new consoles. Many people ARE aware of these costs and factoring them into the cost of a PS4, since the PS3's free online play was a majr draw card keeping many of us from the 360.
The previous console generation was closer to being a match for their contemporary PCs. Just looking at raw numbers, the consoles were only a small amount short of what was available for PCs at the time. New consoles have a larger gap between their specs and those of PCs being released at the same time. Not only that, but previous-gen consoles had much more of a focus on a streamlined OS that focused all the power on running games. As time has moved on, more unnecessary extras have been tacked on, and most of those have been further integrated into the OS for the new consoles, taking resources AWAY from the primary role of being a gaming machine. The main reason older consoles were able to match - or in some cases outperform - PCs of their time was the lack of "distractions" from other programs running in the background. Newer consoles are not only further behind in terms of specs, but also lacking the one advantage that kept older consoles in the game.
If someone made a gaming console that was ACTUALLY A GAMING CONSOLE instead of a PC designed for use in the living room like the new machines have turned into, and actually focused on making it an affordable gaming platform, then maybe we'd have something worth buying. And when I say "affordable", I mean affordable LONG-TERM with no subscription costs as well as short-term with a low starting price. Obviously. |
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Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2167
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Posted - 2014.07.28 07:08:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Many - not most - people are going to look at the initial price tag and not think about the subscription costs required for online play on the new consoles. Many people ARE aware of these costs and factoring them into the cost of a PS4, since the PS3's free online play was a majr draw card keeping many of us from the 360. I have PS+ because of the content it gives, so I'm not actually paying anything extra to play online. F2P games also don't require PS+, so you wouldn't need it to play DUST/Legion.
Most people won't switch to PC just to play DUST/Legion as there's a lot of reasons they're not already PC gamers (a single game on the PS3 or PS4 versus it being on PC is not one of those reasons). They're PS4 gamers and CCP abandoned them no matter what CCP says.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
R.I.P MAG.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
145
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:49:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Many - not most - people are going to look at the initial price tag and not think about the subscription costs required for online play on the new consoles. Many people ARE aware of these costs and factoring them into the cost of a PS4, since the PS3's free online play was a majr draw card keeping many of us from the 360. I have PS+ because of the content it gives, so I'm not actually paying anything extra to play online. F2P games also don't require PS+, so you wouldn't need it to play DUST/Legion. Most people won't switch to PC just to play DUST/Legion as there's a lot of reasons they're not already PC gamers (a single game on the PS3 or PS4 versus it being on PC is not one of those reasons). They're PS4 gamers and CCP abandoned them no matter what CCP says.
To r quite honest, the fact the that i must have ps+ in order to p[lay games online is what is holding me back from getting a PS4. I do usually have PS+ active on my account but there are times that i can't renew it for a couple of months and since i can't play games online with out it is a very bad concept for me.
Most of my gaming is online, weather its playing Dust, or the Destiny beta or Ghosts( only during time of clan wars, and only because its part of my gaming clan, as i despise what any CoD game has done to what people think a FPS should be like)
So I will be sticking with my ps3. |
Jin no kami
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
75
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:28:00 -
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If you don't have $18 for a service every 3months and your a adult gaming shouldn't be on your to do list |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
147
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:40:00 -
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Jin no kami wrote:If you don't have $18 for a service every 3months and your a adult gaming shouldn't be on your to do list
I just happen to have better thing to spend my money on....like taking my gf out to the movies instead of wasting money on video games
unlike you i have a life outside of gaming, that is considered more of an adult life, where i don't have mommy and daddy paying my rent, buying my food, and paying for any game i want. |
Jin no kami
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
75
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Posted - 2014.07.28 21:27:00 -
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I wish my parents paid for me still I don't see how that's a knock against ppl tbh but 60cent a day for a month honestly isn't alot of money. But to each his own |
EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
8
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Posted - 2014.07.31 11:51:00 -
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So you're not abandoning Dust.... until, you abandon Dust..? Wonderful. Was gonna spend 20 bucks n get some AUR for skillpoints and such but now that I know you guys are gonna nail n bail I'm not going to and the character transfer doesn't mean **** to me as it will be for PC. I was hoping Legion would succeed because I figured you could easily throw a small chunk of the profits towards keeping Dust up and running smoothly but apparently you guys will just end Dust so now I'm hoping this Project Legion turns into a total ******* disaster. |
JF duBre
Wraith Shadow Guards
16
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Posted - 2014.07.31 15:52:00 -
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Whatever ... after coming back from playing DESTINY Beta on PS4 I realized that this game DUST514 doesn't give me anything anymore and it feels that again we lost a lot of gamers in the last two or three weeks. :(
Good bye Dusties ... and good bye CCP ... but a game needs more then balancing weapons and stuff or very little graphic updates. Is that really all you can do, CCP? A lot of unfulfilled promises, still no story, no real missions ... |
Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
184
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Posted - 2014.08.01 03:00:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Many - not most - people are going to look at the initial price tag and not think about the subscription costs required for online play on the new consoles. Many people ARE aware of these costs and factoring them into the cost of a PS4, since the PS3's free online play was a majr draw card keeping many of us from the 360. I have PS+ because of the content it gives, so I'm not actually paying anything extra to play online. F2P games also don't require PS+, so you wouldn't need it to play DUST/Legion. Most people won't switch to PC just to play DUST/Legion as there's a lot of reasons they're not already PC gamers (a single game on the PS3 or PS4 versus it being on PC is not one of those reasons). They're PS4 gamers and CCP abandoned them no matter what CCP says.
This is probably what many guys are still missing.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
181
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Posted - 2014.08.02 10:51:00 -
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EMPEROR KillEm wrote:So you're not abandoning Dust.... until, you abandon Dust..? Wonderful. Was gonna spend 20 bucks n get some AUR for skillpoints and such but now that I know you guys are gonna nail n bail I'm not going to and the character transfer doesn't mean **** to me as it will be for PC. I was hoping Legion would succeed because I figured you could easily throw a small chunk of the profits towards keeping Dust up and running smoothly but apparently you guys will just end Dust so now I'm hoping this Project Legion turns into a total ******* disaster.
Ah we can buy sp now?.
Cool story.
Service with a smile
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EMPEROR KillEm
THE 3MPERORS
9
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Posted - 2014.08.02 12:12:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:EMPEROR KillEm wrote:So you're not abandoning Dust.... until, you abandon Dust..? Wonderful. Was gonna spend 20 bucks n get some AUR for skillpoints and such but now that I know you guys are gonna nail n bail I'm not going to and the character transfer doesn't mean **** to me as it will be for PC. I was hoping Legion would succeed because I figured you could easily throw a small chunk of the profits towards keeping Dust up and running smoothly but apparently you guys will just end Dust so now I'm hoping this Project Legion turns into a total ******* disaster. Ah we can buy sp now?. Cool story. Been that way for awhile.. ever heard of active and passive skillpoint boosters?
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
508
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:28:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:Bethhy wrote:Consumers moving into the Summer season and general North American Holiday and recreational season, need some kind of product confidence in the DUST 514's IP and the consumers confidence investing into the persistent nature of the IP and CCP.
When consumers know for sure what for SP is being transferred over to Legion if an when CCP gives the full green light, they will feel more liberal with making investments into their character and personalization into the game and product of DUST 514. Items and ISK doesn't even matter, it's all that skillpoint figure and attachment with their personalized characters.
Consumer confidence and trust is at an all time low, if you are able to manage that and gain some back with assurances, you could see revenue streams starting to recover over the summer holidays. all true except that items and isk are part of that personalized development and do matter... greatly.... and we need bpo security.
This. I spent a bill in EVE isk on some templar BPOs and I would like to keep them.
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Gemini Cuspid
116
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:57:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Guybrush Threeps wrote:This would be on PS4 if the PS4 weren't ridiculously underpowered. PC is the future of gaming, these "next gen" consoles were a complete flop. Good on ya devs. Most people aren't going to shell out the money for a gaming PC. That's one reason going for the PS4 would extend and keep a currently unhappy player base. Buy a gaming LAPTOP for about 3x the base price of a PS4. Desktop is closer to the price of the new console. Count the fact that PC gaming doesn't require subscription costs. A year down the road, your PS4 price has caught up to the laptop and overtaken the desktop price, but the PCs are more powerful with more utility. Many - not most - people are going to look at the initial price tag and not think about the subscription costs required for online play on the new consoles. Many people ARE aware of these costs and factoring them into the cost of a PS4, since the PS3's free online play was a majr draw card keeping many of us from the 360. The previous console generation was closer to being a match for their contemporary PCs. Just looking at raw numbers, the consoles were only a small amount short of what was available for PCs at the time. New consoles have a larger gap between their specs and those of PCs being released at the same time. Not only that, but previous-gen consoles had much more of a focus on a streamlined OS that focused all the power on running games. As time has moved on, more unnecessary extras have been tacked on, and most of those have been further integrated into the OS for the new consoles, taking resources AWAY from the primary role of being a gaming machine. The main reason older consoles were able to match - or in some cases outperform - PCs of their time was the lack of "distractions" from other programs running in the background. Newer consoles are not only further behind in terms of specs, but also lacking the one advantage that kept older consoles in the game. If someone made a gaming console that was ACTUALLY A GAMING CONSOLE instead of a PC designed for use in the living room like the new machines have turned into, and actually focused on making it an affordable gaming platform, then maybe we'd have something worth buying. And when I say "affordable", I mean affordable LONG-TERM with no subscription costs as well as short-term with a low starting price. Obviously. Probably THE biggest misconception when it comes to everyone bashing on the console. Have to start of buy saying my rig is an i7 rig and yeah I have the dual graphics on an extended mobo from Gigabyte. Its what I do my graphics on. I prefer, however, my console options. I too hesitated on the PS+ and 100% regret not doing it earlier. Paying $39 for a year and the titles I got have kept me more occupied and happy than the starter pack cost for Dust514. Not shelling out cash but still getting to play games like the rebooted Lara Croft, Dragon's Dogma, Bioshock Infinite and Borderlands 2 have paid for themselves. But the real problem with Legion and even Dust has never been power but execution.
How many PC games bombed because of simply bad direction in general? When Dust514 came out it was being judged as a console game and it didn't fair that well. Having a more power platform to launch the game doesn't also stop you from suffering from a crappy AI, game imbalances or even horrible choices on equipment. The PS3 wasn't the reason why cloaks and scouts were so problematic months ago but rather because the developers made a crappy choice.
Saying you're building it on the PC to make it "better" precludes that you're avoiding these traps of decision making. Frankly the real, honest gamers out there with an ounce of programming knowledge sometimes feel the most overlooked piece of a game is functionality: will it run and does it have a great foundation where expansions, changes and adjustment will not cause a community to rage back and fourth? This in general has the least to do with a console and the fact is after PS4's keynote speeches this year CCP probably wishes Valkyrie was PC only. No Many's Sky may not have the same degree of multiplayer capacity but the game concept and design is impressive enough with the headline of having less developers than people have fingers adds that insult to injury.
CCP went on the PS3 because there was no shooter to really compete and to be in a market and fail as CCP did is pretty astonishing and horrible; it's like as if Adobe came out and lost to MS Paint. It's that bad because CCP had every opportunity to succeed and it just couldn't. Everyone who played in Beta probably even agrees that the game never felt like it got out of Beta ever.
I'm still going to support Sony and the PS4 and easily PS+; it's something that I need a family member to push me into and glad I did and regret I didn't do it earlier. I could've spared myself buying Xcom but oh well. If anything CCP is the one I can't support. It's almost like why I left EvE; they just made it so that you wanted to hate them that much if anything. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1204
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:31:00 -
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This means Dust 514 is FINALLY coming to PC ? About kitten time !!!
Best news i heard all year... |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1204
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Posted - 2014.08.11 09:43:00 -
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As for feedback ... When project legion is going to Alpha and how can you get involve on it ? |
el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
275
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Posted - 2014.08.15 01:12:00 -
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I'm looking forward to DUST/Legion being available on PS4. I, along with many others, will not be buying a gaming computer in any foreseeable future and think that an FPS which revolves around the economic risk/reward systems we have in here will sufferdone across open internet/PC.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1349
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Posted - 2014.08.19 02:23:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:This means Dust 514 is FINALLY coming to PC ? About kitten time !!! Best news i heard all year... Dust 514 is no longer being developed for anything beyond game balance. No client work (aka Dust 514 on PS3) is planned at this time.
The as yet unfunded Project Legion is a prototype of a PC game being developed by CCP/Shanghai that is using the assets, code and developers from Dust 514. It will have many of the things promised to Dust 514 but never delivered, PVE being one. However, there is no guarantee that Project Legion will ever be more than a prototype.
No decisions on any console would make sense until they decided to first make the game. Then they would have to decide how they were going to include (or not) the console player base. Most of CCP customers are PC players and they were very happy at the change.
So, where did you hear that this has changed? I search but found nothing from CCP that says anything about Project Legion or Dust 514 has changed status. Basically they are at the same place as they were after fan fest when CCP let us know they were done using us.
And so it goes.
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1213
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Posted - 2014.08.25 10:50:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:This means Dust 514 is FINALLY coming to PC ? About kitten time !!! Best news i heard all year... Dust 514 is no longer being developed for anything beyond game balance. No client work (aka Dust 514 on PS3) is planned at this time. The as yet unfunded Project Legion is a prototype of a PC game being developed by CCP/Shanghai that is using the assets, code and developers from Dust 514. It will have many of the things promised to Dust 514 but never delivered, PVE being one. However, there is no guarantee that Project Legion will ever be more than a prototype. No decisions on any console would make sense until they decided to first make the game. Then they would have to decide how they were going to include (or not) the console player base. Most of CCP customers are PC players and they were very happy at the change. So, where did you hear that this has changed? I search but found nothing from CCP that says anything about Project Legion or Dust 514 has changed status. Basically they are at the same place as they were after fan fest when CCP let us know they were done using us.
They won't announce something like this if it is just an experiment ...In my experience when companies announce that they working on something if to see people reactions to it, and decide if they going to go farther with it. They have a positive reaction from fans and critics... so i believe it won't be a prototype for long, but we should see. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1351
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Posted - 2014.08.25 23:17:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:They won't announce something like this if it is just an experiment ...In my experience when companies announce that they working on something if to see people reactions to it, and decide if they going to go farther with it. They have a positive reaction from fans and critics... so i believe it won't be a prototype for long, but we should see. However, you need to consider that this is CCP. They had just got slapped upside the head by their investors for piddling away ~$21M US on the Atlanta development team and the vampire vaporware that never shipped.
They had to announce something or the investors would demand that CCP/Shanghai be shutdown if there was no reason for them to do anything as Dust 514 was done. So, they announced a prototype of a possible game called Project Legion (PL) and have repeated stated that there is absolutely no guarantee that it will ever be anything more than that.
Why would CCP do this? Because EVR (Valkyrie VR on Oculus Rift) is a space combat that they showed off as a prototype. It got rave reviews, they boasted that it was just a proof of concept with a small team (now up to 25 devs). This gives them room to move in relationship to their nervous investors. Recall that CCP has only had one success, EVE Online. And they screwed the pooch on that more than just the $70 monocle. But they recovered! If they never release EVR then they have an easy out, just a prototype. Market changed too quickly, whatever.
So, CCP calls PL a Prototype as well, limit it to the PC where they already have a fan base and if it looks feasible then they look like the geniuses only they believe they are and the investors don't demand their heads.
There is no real expectation that Project Legion will be any good. It is based on Dust 514 that CCP themselves was a major disappointment to them and the fans. It drove a wedge into their fan base (bad idea by anybody) and now they can consolidate back to the one platform they understand - the PC. Which can demand as much RAM and GPU power as necessary without the very cost specific limitations that consoles are driven by.
So, Dust 514 is in a holding pattern. If they can keep enough new players filtering in and buying AUR to cover expenses as the more experience (and bored or disappointed) players leave to other games that work and are actually growing then, hey why not? It is nothing more than a few devs CCP Rattiti, CCP Logibro and the janitor (who is a contractor no doubt). Plus it runs on their existing server solution.
Project Legion will have to demonstrate a real potential to get the green light. The saving grace is they refuse to upgrade their Unreal Engine license so that cost is $0 and Shanghai is inexpensive compared to almost anywhere else. But, make no mistake - CCP will never leave their PC fan base again, beside EVR and that will most likely wind up on PC as well as Sony has other companies (real game companies) planning on using the Sony VR system. At least one of which will probably beat CCP to market on the console as their network won't be based on EVE Online.
No PS3 improvement. No PS4, Xboner or WiiU in the future. There is a small chance that PL will show up on PC with a significant PVE component so players aren't stuck with only having to play with the useless drek of Blue Belles. Many EVE Online players are solo players and to keep them happy PL will have to enable that behavior as well. Not every player likes getting ganked by CCP and their standard players. In fact, a single player Dust 514 would probably allow many to continue playing as it is today (except that will require some code on the PS3 side or some tricks on the server).
Past that, no I haven't thought about it much. The truth is that analysis was done in June, after fan fest.
And so it goes.
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DROPSHIP CAPTAIN
ICE-9 PROJECT
41
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:27:00 -
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so we get to keep our AUR gear and BPOs and other blue prints? but what about isk? |
Jin no kami
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.08.28 20:55:00 -
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I just read ccp let go 49 more ppl from their Icelandic office so they losing more money than expected dust514 might have just a skeleton crew watching this game just saying =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖî=ƒÖïG£î |
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