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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
28
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:54:00 -
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- Range on repair tools reduced.
What on earth does this fix? The repair tools are underused enough as-is.
Side note: still no word on an ISK variant of the Abyss drop uplink?
Minmatar Dropship.
Uprising 1.7.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
207
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:46:00 -
[422] - Quote
Why not make it so a player is actually limited to X number of equipment per player rather than per equipment slot?
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emtbraincase
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
47
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:37:00 -
[423] - Quote
Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Why not make it so a player is actually limited to X number of equipment per player rather than per equipment slot?
how many pieces of equipment is acceptable to you? If you are one who only drops items for WP gains then you would only see the need for 2-4 pieces on the field since you are either helping yourself exclusively or you are just WP farming. The better question is how many "fronts" of a battlefield are there on any given Skirmish (whether PC/FW/Pub)? I typically see at least 2-3, minimum. So if I am a logi, and my team is relying on my rep/resup/revive to hold those fronts (or push forward), then are you suggesting that I should only help 1 of those fronts? If I want just rep and resup on every field then you are looking at, in a minimum sense, 2 wyrkomi triage at 2 locations while I sit at the 3rd with a rep tool, 3 Ishukone Guaged split at those same 2 and me carrying something to resup where I'm at with the Rep tool. I am already at 7 pieces and there has been 0 "spam" since everything is a necessity. All this, and I haven't even put an uplink down to spawn back into (yet another 2-4 uplinks). So I am effectively at 10-11 pieces of equipment on the battlefield and all are of equal or higher quality than anything someone else can put out. Please tell me where this needs limited, for any reason, other than I make pushing those 2-3 fronts more difficult for my enemies. Now, I want you to realize that a Ishuukone Guaged hive (no rep) can be used up in no time (see 2-3 minutes at best) if 4-5 teammates are in a vicious firefight and use, literally, ANY granedes. Now I am hoofing it back again to replenish all of these, so I don't hear "Who's got ammo/rep?", which is exactly the worst sound a logi can hear (it means we aren't doing our job well enough). If I want a fallback position which is defensible immediately, that will add even more hives. One match in particular I am pretty sure I had about 22-25 pieces on the field at once almost the entire match. Yes, I earned about 6k WP that battle and went 0-6ish, but the important thing is we only lost about 20-30 clones the entire battle (with no redlining and constant direct firefighting).
Are people placing useless items on the field for strictly personal gain, regardless of usefulness, absolutely. Should you punish everyone because a few people wanna slay, but can't kill enough to get worthwhile WP, so they turn to MLT equip? I would almost agree if the limit was on MLT equip only, since there is no SP invested. However, if you are willing to put SP into Equipment rather than weapons/shields/armor, then you shouldn't be penalized more than you already are for making that choice. I rarely go positive (hard to kill someone with rep tool in hand) with K-D, but that was by choice. If you wanna make my support playstyle "effectively" useless, then I will just switch to assault (already got anything I need) or I will quit worrying about my teammates and start running MLT equip so I can slay, and WP farm, without really helping my team in any meaningful way. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
166
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:43:00 -
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Hmm... Just interested if the Snap Shot scan will still let you see people under the precision like the current version does?
Current Meta game, 360 scan you miss the people you scan. Focused Scan you can see the people under your dB scan for a brief second.
Will this continue with Snapshot or has that effect been removed in the new update?
ALSO FIX THE FORGE!
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
766
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:12:00 -
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Why is the cloak Caldari? They have the most equipment available right now!
It should be Gallente since it fits them, with being Intel Denial and all that.
Allotek Cloak instead of Ishukone, please! |
Ghermard-ol Dizeriois
Maphia Clan Corporation
140
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:21:00 -
[426] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:Why is the cloak Caldari? They have the most equipment available right now!
It should be Gallente since it fits them, with being Intel Denial and all that.
Allotek Cloak instead of Ishukone, please!
Not sure but AFAIK the Caldari are the EVE geeks... I think that's it... 
If you are an hacker, a cheater o a glitcher, you deserve death. In real life.
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IRON PATRIOT 1
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2014.02.02 18:35:00 -
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I think the drop uplinks spawn timers need to be re-thought. It's unreasonable for the adv to be 12 secs and the proto to be 11 secs. There isn't any noticible difference to want to spec into prototype variants. I think the prototypes should have a 8 sec spawn time and the adv flux variant should have 10 sec spawn time with the proto flux having a 6 sec spawn time. |
Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
16
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Posted - 2014.02.03 00:27:00 -
[428] - Quote
IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:I think the drop uplinks spawn timers need to be re-thought. It's unreasonable for the adv to be 12 secs and the proto to be 11 secs. There isn't any noticible difference to want to spec into prototype variants. I think the prototypes should have a 8 sec spawn time and the adv flux variant should have 10 sec spawn time with the proto flux having a 6 sec spawn time.
I agree with this. Hopefully CCP actually listens to us for this patch or else they will lose a lot of people. Especially if they don't give a respec for Dropsuits, Dropsuit Upgrade and Weapons with all the changes they're making. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
221
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Posted - 2014.02.03 04:33:00 -
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Hey man, that's great. It sounds like you're a really good logi. You can do a lot of different things really amazingly well, it sounds like. All by yourself. Man, I wish I could do a ton of things really well all by myself like securing three fronts at once. There should be a phrase or term for a single person who can do so much so well.
That person would obviously be very powerful. Hmm... A lot of power.... Probably more power than is called for! Overkill, even.... WAIT! I've got it! We could call that overpowered!!! These trendy young kids will probably want an abbreviation for it, so how about we just start calling it "OP". People could confuse it with original poster, like "But the OP said..." but that's fine. Yeah, OP.
I like that a lot. OP.
Hopefully these changes are enough to get rid of do-everything-Logis. I still don't see it dealing with one person dropping 10 or more uplinks/hives, which is bullshit.
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emtbraincase
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
50
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Posted - 2014.02.03 05:45:00 -
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if 1 person can keep everything active, then that means more guns aimed at the enemies, and less repeating actons. |
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Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
17
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Posted - 2014.02.03 11:45:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:if 1 person can keep everything active, then that means more guns aimed at the enemies, and less repeating actons.
I'm all for specialization for Logis, but I'm not for nerfing everything and make it an overly specialized role. As it stands, ONLY Logis will be able to do things, very specific things, and everyone else will be screwed because the equipment they use will be ****** and not worth wasting a slot and CPU/PG for.
Right now, I'd be a-okay with just running a rep tool and scanner on my Gallente Logi and still fight like an assaulter as long as I have a heavy that has a lot of Armor. |
Exodeon Salviej
the third day
31
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:04:00 -
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Welllll, considering my Minmatar Assault uses a Compact Nanohive in order to survive, my tactic just so happened to get jipped by an update. o_o No problem though, I can find some other way to survive. :D
Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone.
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Mordecai Snake
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
22
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:03:00 -
[433] - Quote
There should be Equipment proficiency skills. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
1837
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:16:00 -
[434] - Quote
Interesting. I had actually suggested uplink and nanohive proficiency skills as a solution to equipment spam. Your level would determine how many pieces of each you could have active at one time. That way dedicated logis could still drop enough equipment to do their job but the spam brigade would be hindered.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.1
Amarr victor!
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Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
19
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Posted - 2014.02.04 11:04:00 -
[435] - Quote
John Demonsbane wrote:Interesting. I had actually suggested uplink and nanohive proficiency skills as a solution to equipment spam. Your level would determine how many pieces of each you could have active at one time. That way dedicated logis could still drop enough equipment to do their job but the spam brigade would be hindered.
Yes. I'd be all for this. I would spec into Minmatar Logi and Gallente Logi and the AR and Combat Rifle and then dump the rest of my SP into all the equipment skills. If they leave everything the way it is now and add the proficiency skill to aforementioned equipment, that'd be awesome. |
emtbraincase
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
50
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Posted - 2014.02.04 20:33:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:emtbraincase wrote:if 1 person can keep everything active, then that means more guns aimed at the enemies, and less repeating actons. I'm all for specialization for Logis, but I'm not for nerfing everything and make it an overly specialized role. As it stands, ONLY Logis will be able to do things, very specific things, and everyone else will be screwed because the equipment they use will be ****** and not worth wasting a slot and CPU/PG for. Right now, I'd be a-okay with just running a rep tool and scanner on my Gallente Logi and still fight like an assaulter as long as I have a heavy that has a lot of Armor.
Pretty much 1/2 of my fittings will be this after 1.8, along with my Minlogi for acting like a logi. Not much help for anything but my k/d (which still means nothing). Specialized logi is only useful if it is intended by the individual, but I understand a need for SOME specialization....just not this much. |
Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
20
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Posted - 2014.02.04 23:03:00 -
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emtbraincase wrote:Rami Hamilo wrote:emtbraincase wrote:if 1 person can keep everything active, then that means more guns aimed at the enemies, and less repeating actons. I'm all for specialization for Logis, but I'm not for nerfing everything and make it an overly specialized role. As it stands, ONLY Logis will be able to do things, very specific things, and everyone else will be screwed because the equipment they use will be ****** and not worth wasting a slot and CPU/PG for. Right now, I'd be a-okay with just running a rep tool and scanner on my Gallente Logi and still fight like an assaulter as long as I have a heavy that has a lot of Armor. Pretty much 1/2 of my fittings will be this after 1.8, along with my Minlogi for acting like a logi. Not much help for anything but my k/d (which still means nothing). Specialized logi is only useful if it is intended by the individual, but I understand a need for SOME specialization....just not this much.
You can be damn sure if they make Logis this specialized, I will only put points into Rep tools and Minmatar Logi and not into uplinks, hives, nanite injectors or any other equipment and just go proto scout or proto assault. Or maybe proto gallente/caldari heavy. |
The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:23:00 -
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Drop uplinks: just had a SEVERE panic attack. They will shoot them out before anyone can spawn in. Yet you let all these clowns boost and lag switch and punish the people who play fair?
If those values go through, im out. You are messing with my lively hood. Id rather see a nerf to how many one merc can put out then this.
I LOVE this game but not that much. I can't breath.......broken heart
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The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:57:00 -
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NOBODY spams proto links. Its always 10 second links everywhere. Remove them problem solved. I NEVER spawn on a 10 anyway. I have been a true logi since day one. Only the best for my team. |
Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
21
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:23:00 -
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The Headless Horseman wrote:NOBODY spams proto links. Its always 10 second links everywhere. Remove them problem solved. I NEVER spawn on a 10 anyway. I have been a true logi since day one. Only the best for my team.
I spam 9 proto links a match and they all usually go pretty fast either due to an orbital or the enemy overrun our position and flux them. I also have a tendency to drop them all relatively close to each other so that if they do get fluxed, I can just drop more. |
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
159
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Posted - 2014.02.06 06:00:00 -
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scanners ruined. geuss ill have to carry 3-4 of them now |
Oswald Rehnquist
1218
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Posted - 2014.02.06 07:23:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Why is the cloak Caldari? They have the most equipment available right now!
It should be Gallente since it fits them, with being Intel Denial and all that.
Allotek Cloak instead of Ishukone, please!
The caldari made the cloaks in EVE I believe, but I actually agree with you that the dust cloak makes more sense in being gallente due to them being better at it.
Below 28 dB
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
95
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:58:00 -
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15 sec to spawn really? |
Lucifer714
Glitch'n - N - Bitch'n
0
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:41:00 -
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As to cloaking : I see the future and i see players(that aren't cloaked) spinning like little tops firing aimlessly hoping for a hit mark ?
Am I in Hell still ?
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
254
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Posted - 2014.02.06 23:40:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Why not make it so a player is actually limited to X number of equipment per player rather than per equipment slot?
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Rami Hamilo
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
21
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Posted - 2014.02.07 00:50:00 -
[446] - Quote
Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Why not make it so a player is actually limited to X number of equipment per player rather than per equipment slot?
Way to quote yourself, bro |
maka rax
Space Road Truckers.
9
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:03:00 -
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I didn't read through this entire thread, but I hope it's been brought to attention about how auto aim is going to work if you happen to fire on someone cloaked....I hope CCP has at least thought about... |
General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
52
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Posted - 2014.02.08 20:17:00 -
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sweet!. ive really been wanting cloaking fields. its gonna be a perfect tool for assassin-style scouts.
now i cant wait for this update. |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
280
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Posted - 2014.02.09 01:19:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Why not just make cloaks exclusive to scouts?
It seems pointless giving scouts a bonus to their use when all it's really doing is making their use at all possible.
And let's not forget that you're also making it next to impossible for new payers to use cloaks.
As it stands, not likely to be able to fit basic cloak and my nicer fits without full scout five, cloaking skill 5, engineering and electronics 5. Its gonna be kinda bs to even be able to fit the basic one....But, I can adapt...
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Scrambler Pistol dedication
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2183
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Posted - 2014.02.10 01:41:00 -
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I dont really think reptools need a nerf. Barely any 1 uses them apart from hardcore logis so nerfing them will turn plyers away from using them.
I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
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