Then don't die? Plus you forget the other team has the same spawntimes as your team. God forbid the better team being able to take objectives from the other team.


QQ some more? They still give reduced spawn time. Uplinks needed a higher spawntime.


QQ some more? You get four, yes FOUR nanohives. That isn't enough?


QQ some more? You still can? Reduced repair amount + Sentinel resistances = about the same repair amount as now.

You want a logi to be able to do everything, how about you specialise in 1.8?
Amarr: Better Uplinks than now.
Caldari: Better Nanohives than now.
Gallente: Better Scanners than now.
Minmatar: Better Repair tools than now (yes, they might give less reps, but they get more range + sentinel resists actually means more reps than now).

- Cooldown times on scanners increased. Scanner functionality has been improved to do GÇ£snapshotGÇ¥ scans in order to stop 360 degree spins.
- Range on repair tools reduced.
- Drop uplink spawn times increased.
- Nanohive nanite supply reduced.

Mate - you look like a child when you keep putting "QQ" - How about you explain why you like the changes. Why should uplinks take longer to redeploy a merc for instance?

To be fair to both sides of the argument though we haven't seen it all yet the suit bonus's could have changed, equipment skills could give bonus's, nanite cost of things could have decreased etc... so saying this has killed true logi's is a bit of an over exaggeration it has made it more difficult yes but until we know all of the facts it could work out that we are around about as effective at things as we are now but better at one thing by far. True logi's will still be around we will just have to work for it more.

The underlined portion slightly concerns me.

The equipment menu is rather clumsy at this stage. The cloak seems to be a tool that aids/bolsters mobility, but the equipment menu is not particularly conducive to being used while mobile.

There will be more details to come - but after discussion with the CPM, CCP Remnant and Wolfman decided to go with implementing a design that will mean you are not able to fire while cloaked. This was something that the Community / CPM seemed fairly keen on and Cloaking will be used primarily as a relocation / movement tool.

We're still working out the kinks and nothing is final, but just to let you guys know that we love the feedback and I promise you that we're crawling through your posts. :)

then the cloaking is broken. to much cpu. at proto all you will be able to equip on any character is a gun and cloak. nothing you build will be battle feasable at proto lvl and less durable then even a militia fitting without it. so if its for relocatiing only then lower cpu cost cause even scouts have only about 300 cpu with electonics 5 so im running around just shot gun and cloak no armor or anything cause lack of cpu come un cloaked to shoot . kill one n then wait 40 seconds by that time im dead. i feel at proto lvl you shoud be able to shoot with like a time duration expendature of 10 seconds per shot. that way u can kill one.stay cloaked for bout 10 to 20 seconds more (in which shooting another enemy is not feasbile while cloaked cuz 2 shots ur visible but more then likely one ) ,but relocate. cool down 40 seconds n cloak up for 80 again at proto lvl takes2 to 4 shots so 20 to 40 seconds depleted . one enemy keeps scout a viqble option but not permanent threat in game and also not visable option during pub matches like ambush. or allow the dont shoot n reduce cool down n cpu . other then 300 cpu its not visable for any suit especially logi. as u will have no other equiptment nor the durability to stay in battle to logi. i understand sacrificing durablitly for such a powerful equiptment but ccp you did it a little excessively.you cant equipt even on shield or armor plating just for " relocating purposes" sounds pointless cause a scout would at least need one to 2 dampners as well and couldnt fit it. so you went to making a scout over powered with it. to just dumb for using one cause on hit hes dead and or scanned. the math does not add up for useability.

Don't soothe them, I want them to experience anguish.

I already did earlier in the thread.

3 second Uplinks are terrible. Dying should mean you're away for a while. Specialising in Amarr Logi will still give you incredible good Uplinks however, which is how it should be.

And I'd just like to point out that heavy resists are in no way going to make up for the loss of 50hp/s.

So you want to slow down the pace of the game basically? "Dying should mean you're away for a while" Quote.

@CCP
Is the 'Profile Dampeners' and 'Cloaking Device' in the same stack? Like Rigs and Modules are, or are they not effected by each other? (As in DCU and Resistance Platings.)

Rail Rifle with proficiency 5 is going to do about 50 damage less per second against a Gallente Sentinel according to some quick math by me (so might be wrong).

Sure that's just against a Caldari weapon, but still.

profile dampners are low slot, cloaking is equiptment slot still look at cpu usage. cant equip both. let alne anything other then a gun and thats with max electronics cloak proto is 300 cpu. tanks barely got that after gun rep n hardner. wtf was ccp smoking lmao

profile dampners are low slot, cloaking is equiptment slot still look at cpu usage. cant equip both. let alne anything other then a gun and thats with max electronics cloak proto is 300 cpu. tanks barely got that after gun rep n hardner. wtf was ccp smoking lmao