This is starting to get annoying, pretty much Snipers are calling out for a buff since their enemies are getting smarter at being able to avoid them and making their suits able to take hits and keep going. Everyone else who doesn't snipe hates on snipers since in all reality they rarely help a team and normally cause a team to lose due to lack of bodies on the front line. Snipers want a buff so they can keep camping the red line and other areas that don't matter to the game. Everyone else wants to remove the Red Line so Snipers actually take part in the game. In the end neither side will get what they want. So best I can say is I will agree that CCP regardless needs to fix the rendering issues/hit detection issues. Sniper Rifles don't need more damage.

Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.


Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.



They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff.

Wow, umm where to start? As both a proto scout and a proto commando, both with proto Sniper Rifles and decent proficiency, I can tell you right now that you're wrong wanting the whole world handed to you on a silver platter.

Sniping from the start is meant to be used for tactical ( I cant stress this enough) overview and SUPPRESSION. Not a one man, annihilate whole enemy team from the redline badass.

I know I'm gonna hear complaints but the Thale's in all honesty needs a slightly reduced scope. You should not be able to snipe clear across the map, no other officer weapon even comes close to the level that this weapon can do (extremely high range, high damage).

I've had a lot of success killing people with the C-27 that you get as salvage which nobody seems to like, as well as with proto snipers.Well the people who have been killed by me don't like me. The Charge Sniper Rifle isn't meant to 1-shot anything, except low HP dropsuits such as Logis and Scouts. These should be your primary targets.

If the Sniper Rife had a longer zoom it would be abused. The tac has a longer zoom which heightens survivability because it makes you harder to find. Also if you have enough HP to survive a shot since you're further away, meaning you're harder to hit.

If you only have it at Operations 2, you need to go higher than that, to learn the difference between them all. A sniper again, I state is a support/TACTICAL weapon, not meant to be abused. Otherwise there would just be Snipers in dust. Although I agree that the Charge needs better name lol.

Your opinion as a sniper means nothing in comparison. Sniping from the ground? Yeah, I do that too. While I'm waiting for my drop ship to land.

You're the same narrow minded garbage I had described earlier. Just a cog in the meat grinder. If you had things your way there would be no mountains, no buildings, no vantage points. Just flat terrain and boxes. Get the **** out.

If I had my way there would be , ladders to every "vantage point"
Uplinks wouldn't deploy from a certain altitude and the better view your "vantage point" gives you the easier it is for someone else to get there.

Why shouldn't my opinion mean nothing because I like to put my suit on the line and givemy enemy the chamce to flank me.
When I snipe I play a combat sniper, picking a nest a little further out from the action and supporting my team, I don't find the least accessible place and pop what I see, I actually benifit my team when I snipe, I seriously believe you can't say the same.

So as I said your entire attitude is invictive of why you won't get buffs, the effort you need to put into kill someone is equal to effort they need to as well.
And that is called BALANCE.

I just want to strangle you.

"why shouldn't my opinion mean nothing" - you're right it really should mean nothing.

"I play a combat sniper" - as opposed to a non combat sniper?

what the hell is "invictive?"

The game isn't fun at all if you're hiding in your own red line sniping. Let's not claim to know my sniping methodologies until you're on the receiving end of it.

I don't need to know your methodologies, you want to 3 shot heavies, who are supposed to be resistant to infantry weaponry.
You want to 1 shog the majority of suits, me and my friggin autocorrecting tablet are here to tell you to get lost. By all means come and strangle me, my shotgun is dying to meet you.

Decrease the range to limit redline sniping and increase damage to make the weapon a viable option. Without a damage increase, if shot, most people like myself will simply ignore the sniper. Their contribution is so insignificant that they fall under the label: nonfactor. Face it, headshots don't kill most pub assaults or logis, and at a competitive level you'd be better off running with a militia shotgun and playing point defense.

Just had a faction warfare match, where the entire enemy team got one total kill. We had 3 prototype tanks camping the enemy red line. I was sniping way up high, each tank had 30+ kills. I had maybe 15 kills. I would have been so upset if someone on the enemy team managed to escape the meat grinder and sniped back at me.

They couldn't escape the red line. They're allowed to fight back, but God forbid with a sniper rifle...

I want my shots to always register, I want my enemies to render, I want to be viable in pc without a thales......... I don't want to have to hit multiple headshots to kill medium frames, or however many it takes to kill a proto gal sentinel (I think its 8 bodyshots or 5 headshots with the ishukone)

"1) You're probably winning already . . . " Winning is not excuse for your opponent to snipe from the redline.
2 and 3 apply the majority of the time you get sniped not just from the redline, which is basically what snipers do pick off straglers.

There is NO EXCUSE for redline sniping, period.
Also 3 shot heavies? You realise you will one shot the majority of suits (about 55-60%) in this game with that. The only way you would be permitted that much power is if every sniper had a long charge time, full blown ballistics and giant "I'm here" sign everytime you pulled that damn trigger.

It currently takes up to 14 bodyshots and 4 reloads (or 8 headshots with 2 reloads) with a PROTO sniper rifle to kill a merc. Despite the extremely low zoom level. And he doesn't waddle away in the 25 seconds that it takes. Provided you land every shot on target.

That's just ridiculous!

By the way, from the Dust wiki:
Yeah, right!

1. Im retracting all previous statements
2. Bullshit i just got 2 shoted by a militia sniper and i was running a heavy sniper with 1300ehp

Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.


Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.



They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff.

I have a full proficiency to level 5 in sniper rifle, I was using a caldari logie with 5 complex damage mods and a charge sniper rifle. Was not able to kill jack! When ever I was lucky enough to hit something, It would not freaking die. Then I get hit one time and I am dead and lost over 200k. I want a respect on weapons. sniper rifles are not good.

Bullshit i just got 2 shoted by a militia sniper and i was running a heavy sniper with 1300ehp

What I would like is to 2 shot any suit with the Ishokune, and 3 shot a heavy. I guess that would be thales damage on the basic sniper rifle.. still seems fair since there's recoil. I say this because 3-4 shots on any suit and 5 on heavies is disgusting. Snipers are annoying at best, rarely some kind of real threat that ever must be dealt with.

There are a lot of terrible snipers out there, that's great. I'm just not one of them.

Yo you self righteous proto stomper. When people are getting crushed because you're abusing the terrible matchmaking with your all proto fits, you can't just expect people to sit there and get stomped for fun. They're either going to go cloaked scout/militia/sniper.

Deal with it.

Just like how we have to put up with the proto elite.

Stop with the freking risk/reward. If you are not willing to do sh*t about it, then it's your own fault. My sniper suits costed 130k isk in 1.6 and were easily killable by a standard tactical sniper. Get good you scurbs and stop tying to keep a sh*tty weapon in the dirt. The only viable sniper right now is the thale's.


Snipers are an unliked class but you deserve to be sniped if you don't want to counter them.
I kill 90% of sniper I face with level 2 in sniper operation, a scout suit and a tactical sniper rifle and I best most lose over 100k isk per death when I start sniping.



They all need a zoom and damage buff.
Tactical needs it's clip size increased.
Charge needs a cooler word in front of the name, a damage buff and a huge zoom capability buff.
Basic needs a damage buff.

I would like sniper rifles bullets to have travel speed and bullet drop.

Only then would it deserve such a buff to damage.

I would not agree completely on changing the magnification on sniper rifles. It's not something I feel is absolutely needed. It would certainly make red line sniping a little easier.

I just want the sniper to be useful in PC. (or whatever future end game content awaits DUST 514)

Increased damage seems logical because of increased suit health / armor + no updates to the weapon. It's antiquated.
Additional Functionality could be another answer. Allow anyone with a sniper rifle the ability to "spot" targets for their squad.

ITT:
1. Snipers wanting their jobs back.
2. Stompers complaining that they stomp so well everyone hides.

I fear that the majority of the forum readers will not understand your point, they are too busy tunnelvisioning like a scrub